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Contents of Volume 11. 

No l. 


Letter from Isaac Tillery, 


Circular Letter of the Cumberland 

(Term.,) Bapti3t Association, 


Letter from Wm. M. Mitchell, 


R. W. Hill, 


Circular Letter of the Baltimore 

(Old School) Baptist Association, 


Corresponding Letter do. do. 


Letter from George Turner, 


On Benevolent Societies, 


Poetry by Benj. May, 


No. 2. 

Letter from Charles Holland, 


P. Saltzman, 


History of Canoochie Association, 


Minutes of Contentnea do. 


Letter from Levi Bishop, 


R. Rorer, 


Circular Letter of the Two River 

Baptist Association, 


Letter from P. A. Witt, 


M. W. Helms, 


Thos. Amis, 


Poetry by B. May, 


No. 3. 

Societyism examined by Wm. 

N. Perry, 


Letter from J. H. Smith, 


R. Rorer, 


Prospectus of th« Regular Bapliat, 

v/ 1 



No. 4. 

Letter from N. S. McDowell, 

Isaac Meekins, 
Constitution for a new Society, by 

Eld. R. M. Newport. 
Letter from J. P. Ramsey, 
Obituary of E. Gresham, 
Letter from S. W. Blood worth, 

A. M. Reynolds, 

Jas. Hollingsworth, 

Jas. Perkins, 

A. B. Low, 

J. Hart, 

M. Q. Ash by, 

J. B. Moses, 

H. Cason, 
Poetry by B. May, 

No. 5. 

Letter from A. J. Coleman, 
Circular Letter of the Buttahatcha 

Letter from W. H. Smith, 
R. Rorer 

D. Dozier, 
M. Yates, 

E. B. Turner, 
A. Keeton, 
John Powell, 
A. Hill, 

Poetry by B. May, 











No. «. 

Letter from T. \V. Walton, 

W. H. Hall, 

do. do. do. 

.1. W. Il.Cliett, 

L. A. Durham, 

W. Talley, 

M. Burkhaltep, 

J Spier, Sr., 

B. May, 
Poetry by 
Letter from R. Rorer, 

A. Hat ley, 

Thos. G u ice. 
Prospectus of the Southern Polemi- 
cal Recorder, 
Letter from R. N. Walton, 

P. Garlington. 
Corresponding Letter of the Wabash 
A association, 

No 7. 

Discourse by Wm. Perry, 
Letter from S. Tatum, 
Obituary of Mr. Mary Hassell, 
Letter from Sally Miller, 
Poetry by B. May, 

No 8. 

Letter from A. Kcaton, 

N. S. McDowell, 

Wm. Flyman, 

.1. D. Wade, 

J. Daily, 

J. Alsbury, 

Thos. Matthews, 

Prior Lewis, 

W. M. Mitchell, 
Poetry by B. May, 
Letter from S. Canterberry, 
No. 9. 

Letter from N. S. McDowell, 
Circular Letter of the Buttahacha 

Letter from B. H. Hunniugs, 
Poetry by do. 

Letter frornjl. Rorer, 

C, Nichols, 

R. Wearer, 
Obituary of Hudson Harris, 
Obituary of Levi Bishop, 











No 10. 

Letter from B. Upchurch, 

S. M. Kee, 

Wm. Burns, 

J. Halbert, 

B. May, 

No. tl 
Minutes of the Kehukee Association, 
Circular Letter of do. 
Letter from R. D. Hart, 
Minutes of the Lexington S. C. 

Circular Letter of do. 

,<| No. 12. 


I Letter from Jos. Hampton, 

92 I Isaac Tillery, 

93 Minutes of the Contentnea Asso- 
95 ciatiou, 

Circular Letter of do, 
« ! Letter from B. H. Hunnings, 
Mrs. M. T. Lloyd, 
Poetry by B. May, 

No. 13. 
Minutes of the S. C. Association, 
Circular Letter of do. 
Corresponding Letter of do. 
Obituary of Elder Francis Baker, 
Letter from M. Burkhalter, 
R. Rorer, 
E. W. Mays, 
j2i i Circular Letter of the Pocatalico 
122 Association, 
j 23] Letter from Jas. Perkins, 

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A. W. Eanes 
Sarah M. Griggs, 
J. Lankford, 
H. Cason, 
Jos. Daniel, 
Isaac Moore, 
Poetry by B. May, 

No M. 
Letter from Young Smith, 
Circular Letter of Zion's Rest 
137 , Letter from Jas. W. Dudley, 

"I H. Wat kins, 

138! G. N. Clampitt, 

13& Circular Letter of Miami Association, 
142> Letter from Wm. Trice, 

"| P. A.Witt, 

113 J. R. Parker, 











Corresponding Letter of Licking 

Letter from John Hart, 

James S. Battle 
"ircular Letter of Vermillion (111. 





B. Lloyd, 

G. M.Thompson (con'd,) 

John Powell, 

N. Adams, 

R. Rorer (continued,) 

B. Lloyd, 


Letter from Jas. Perkins, 


No. 20. 

Extract on Okaw Association, 


Letter from Jas. Osbourn, 


Poetry by B. May, 


Extract fro 

m Regular Baptist, 


No. 15. 

Letter iron- 

l R. D. Hart, 


A crumb from a child to the little 

J. S. Bryant, 




Thos. Latta, 


Letter from Isaac Meekins, 


S. Latta, 


Circular Letter of the Bear Creek 

J. W. Dudley, 




No. 21.. 

Letter from R. Rorer, 


Letter from C. B. Hassbll, 


Jas. Wilson, 


W. Garrard, 


Poetry by B. May, 


A. Keaton, 


No 16. 

B. Temple, 


A crumb (continued,) 


C. T. Sawyer, 


Letter from S. M inter, 


J. C. Lucas, 


G. W. Rogers, 



R. Rorer, 


Circular Letter to the Siloarn 

M. McCrary, 




G. Bryan, 


No 17. 

J. Lindsey, 


Letter from John Davis, 


Jas. Wilson, 


Circular Letter of the South 

Jos. Daniel, 


Arkansas Association, 


No. 22. 

Letter from D. Dozier, 


Letter from C. B. Hassell, 


M. Tatum, 


B. Temple, 


Wm. Burns, 


Minutes of the Kehukee Association, 


Amos Hill, 


Letter from Jas. Osbourn, 


J. Layman, 


A. Lyons, 


Circular Letter to the Cumberland 

W. 0. Stevens, 




Isaac Meekins, 


Letter from Jas. Murray, 


No. 9-3. 

John Kinnard, 

Minutes of the Contentnea Asso- 

No. 18. 



Letter from N. S. McDowell, 


Letter frorr 

i I. Moore, 


E. Holland, 


B. Temple, 


S. Tatum, 


Jno. W. White, 


Circular Letter of Conn's Creek 

R. Rorer, 




No. 24. 

Letter from R. Rorer, 


Minutes of the Lexington S. C. As- 

G. M. Thompson, 





A. M. Reynolds, 


Letter from 

B. Tempi?., 


J. R. Parker, 



of the Primitive Baptist, 


No. 19. 

Letter from N. S. McDowell 




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V0L. II. 

S AT I J ft iVA 1 V , J A N V A R Y 3 , I H 4 6' 

feelings; but if it sTioiild, I pray forgive 
me, for God knows I mean no harm in do- 
ing what I am doing: For T do love and 
Lapland, N. C, July 31, 1*845. | long to see the freedom and liberty of our 
Blessed be the God' and Father of our once happy nation restored to us again, as 
E.6rd and' Saviour Jesus Christ, who has it was when first sV dearly bought by the 
caused us the Old Baptists to 7 hear from blood of our forefathers. Our eternal sid- 
t'a'c'h other all oyer the United States, by' vation was bought with blood, and that bv 
and through the little winged messenger our heavenly Father; also our common 
tHfe Primitive Baptist. And now, brelh- salvation was bought with the bipod of our 
ren, as God has blest us in hearing from earthly forefathers, and now, brethren, I 
eachother ih religious matters', I am now charge you'in the name of God not to bar- 
going to let you know what I think on ler it for lies. 

particular matters.' Brethren, it is as plain as the nose in a 

THe apostle Paul said, it. \vas~" not "nesd-" man's face, th'at the wicked mischievous 
ful'lbf'hiin to write to them of the com- missionaries have been seated at the head 
moh'salvatioh; as much as to say, you all of oui- afTairs in our churches for man y 
know"" what is best for your earthly or years past, and what situation' have .they 
temporal good, which in my judgment is placed the churches in? A situation of 
the common salvation of every man, mournii)gnnd lamen'aiion. and it is all for 
for" he Christ tasked death for every the want of your obeying the calls of the 
mah,' - that he might, reserve to him- common sanation. Understand me, the 
self a peculiar people, for the spiritual sal- common salvation is our earthly blessings 
vatlbh, zealous of gc6d works; which God such as our freedom a; dour liberty. And 
hath* foreordained that we the Christians now will you. my dear brethren, who are 
should walk in them. Now you all know widely scattered over this sweet earthly 
that Happiness is salvation, and \ for one Canaan, America, I' say", will, you again 
believe that our common salvation de- trample on the blood of your forefathers a 
pehds'ori what way and manner we use small handful of heroes, who stood; - by 
that' freedom and liberty thai* God has their brave General Washington with na- 
blestevery man with. But we. Esau like, ked ft el on frozen ground, to procure frec- 
havV sold our birthright and that for lies, dom for their dear wives and us their lov- 
Atafl if ' you will consider seriously for a ing children left behind them in sorrow tn 
few^morhents^you will see and know that mourn for the loss of kind ' fathers. My 
I arh'tetlihg the truth.' God, who among the sons of freedom can 

Brethren, PsenrPthjfsf moment afraid that bear to think of this, and again bow their 
this eommunicalioa isto hurt some of your necks to the iron \ oke of bondage. 




Brethren, pardon me for this, if it should 
offend any of you; for God knows, I mean 
no harm to any man on earth in doing 
what I am now doing. I am distrest so 
much when I look all around both at State 
and church, and there to see our freedom at 
stake, that I cannot hold my peace. The 
very things that the people Can do, they 
won't do; but the very things they can't 
do, they will try to do. If the people 
would only watch the movements of one 
another, and do whal God has given in 
their power to do concerning our common 
salvation, we should have as it were a hea- 
ven here on earth; but instead of minding 
their common salvation, the world of man- 
kind is now in arms, storming their way 
to take the spiritual salvation by violence; 
and would, if in their power, dethrone the 
God of heaven, and there reign incarnate 

let any of those things move you, for I tell 
you that the general fate of belzebub And 
all his legions is near at hand. For when 
prince Emanuel comes with the trump of 
God, he the old brimstone fellow will be 
non-suited forever, him and all his legions* 
together. They will have something else 
to employ themselves about, besides wal- 
lowing in straw pens at protracted of rath- 
er distracted meetings. 

No, brethren, they won't be feasted on 
chickens and coffee then no longer; they 
will be better employed than riding thro* 
the world telling lies for truth and turning 
Up the name Baptist for their trUmp. No, 
brethren, their awful Cry will be to the 
rocks and mountains to hide them from 
the face of him that, sits on the throne*, 
It won't be for more straw for their mour- 
ners to kick Up their heels on, to raise 

devils through endless ages. But thanks ! screams and yells to frighten the balance 
be to God, that flaming sword is yet turn- so as to come and join them in their devil- 
ing every way to guard the spiritual sal- ment. They have fine times now, making 
vation, so that old Lucifer with all his at- j their brags how they are gaining the un- 
my never will be able to pluck one leaf circumcised Philistines into their ranks; 
from its holy boughs. No, my brethren, but thank God, brethren, they have nevef 
the wisdom of earth and hell combined to- caught one yet that has been circumcised 
gether, never will be able to pluck one leaf in heart, nor never will; for the spirit of" 
from the holy boughs of that blessed tree Christ is never deceived, and he that has 
of life; and as this is the last communica- j not that spirit is none of Christ's. So we 
tion that I ever expect to write in rh«* Pri- find the flock of Christ is ever small, and 
mitive, I want my distant brethren to know ' those, are they that are hated by all nations 
my mind. I am of the firm opinion that for his name's sake. 

this is one of the times that God has given ■ So pick up courage, brethren, for there 
the lying spirit permission to prosper both is no better mark under heaven to prove 
in State and church. I am also of the firm : that We are right and they are wrong, than 
opinion, that the devil is now transformed for us to be hated by all the devil's socie- 
into an angel of light, and his ministers ties; for wo Unto us, the Primitive Bap- 
transformed even as the ministers of righ- 1 tists, if all the devil's societies Speak well 

teousness; and my firm opinion is, that he 
the devil has the greatest spite at the Old 
Primitive Baptists, than he has at all the 
rest of God's creation; for when he the 
devil found he could not deceive us any 
longer with his many societies with their 
different names, he the devil has now come 
in our own name, and I expect the old 
brimstone follow now thinks the game 
sure, as he holds ace, deuce and jack in his 
own hands, and has turned Baptist for 
trump. But, my dear brethren, don't 

of us, for so did the fathers of the false 
prophets. So, dear brethren, pray never 
forget our main watchword, that is, to 
come out from among them and be sepa- 
rate. I want all my Old Baptist breth- 
ren to show themselves valiant for the 
truth, as I expect my name will be seen no 
more in these columns; and lam sorry for 
it, for 1 love the communications that come 
in the Primitive, and I have been a strong 
advocate for their circulation for eight 
years, but I am now old and have broke 

primitive: baptist. 


up and have moved to the State of Ken- 1 to unite with every thing that will unite 

tucky, and am yet unsettled in mind, and 
never expect to be much better in this life, 

with them, this is all to get law power. 
Take care, take care, brethren, the devil 

for reasons best known to myself. I was has come among us in great wrath, think- 
once a happy man in this life, but I had not ing to devour the saints of the Most High; 
sense to know it. but be, the devil, is both a fool and a liar, 
But I want my brethren all to continue him and all his followers. So no more at 
sending for the paper and never let it stop; this time, but as ever yours till death. 

for it has been food to iny soul and still is 
and I hope I still shall have the pleasure of 
reading them at times as long as I live. 
And I do hope that the first writers who 
are yet alive will continue to write on, so 
that the rising generation may see that in 
the nineteenth century there was a people 
that stood up for the truth and did expose 

And now, my dear and much beloved 
brethren, if I never see your faces in this| and '» te ''^ing subject of the 
world, I do hope in God my Saviour that I Resurrection of the Dead. 


From the Signs of the Times. 


The Ctimberlxiid [Term.,] Baptist Ax- 
cia/ion, to (he churches composing the 
Our Circular will be upon the important 

I shall meet you in that happy world 
above, where we shall lay down the wea- 
pons of war and fight no more with satan 
and his army, as we have had to do here 
in these low grounds of sorrow. But, 

We will make a few brief remarks, illus- 
trations, and quotations, as our limits will 
admit but few. 

Thiii there will be a resurrection, both 
of the just and unjust, is evident from the 

no more. 

A few words more and I will come to a 

dear brethren, fight on a little longer, the scriptures, although it is denied, and has 
ship is yet in the midst of the ocean, the been denied, for at least two thousand 
winds and .storms of persecution are still years. The Sadducees, who derived their 
rising, but our captain is brave and will name from one Sadoc, the founder of their 
command all the waves, and we shall all sect, who lived about two hundred and six- 
land safely on Canaan's bright shore, 1 ty years before ( hrist, believed that God 
where the wind and the tide will reach us ! was ,he only immaterial! or spiritual being 

I in the Universe; and' be.-ides him, there 
,were neither angels nor spirits; and that 
close. I am at this time a hundred and , death pul a fina| per j od t0 yyy g-f g _ 

eighty miles from home, at the place' tence> 8ee their que^ion to Christ, Matt 
where I moved from last fall, to attend an ' ■• rtri In , ..." 

' |xx:i. e.,: I he same day came to hrm the 

Association; and it 1 should be spared to ... . ... ,, „ 

' c .. '. ; Sadducees, which say that there rs no res- 

live to get home to my tamily again, you ; ■ o , 

... ', , ... ' . ./ t ; urrection r &c; v. 29, Jesus answered and 

will hear trom this Association by some- I 

body, if not myself. 

Brethren McDowell, Whatley, Keaton, 
Rorer, with Randolph and a host of oth- 
ers who write in the Primitive, for the 
Lord's sake and your soul's sake stand to 
your post. My dear brethren, don't give 
one inch of ground to the enemy, I mean 

the accursed missionary craft, that will 
without God's assistance bring a worse 
curse on our land and nation than what it 
has already done; for they are now trying 

said unto tl em, Ye do err, not knowing 
the scriptures, nor the power of God; v. 
;?2, I am the God of Abraham, and the God 
of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. God \9 
not the God of the «l!end, but of the living. 
This proves that they still lived, although 
it had been fifteen hundred and sixtr-six 
years sinre these words had been spoken 
to Mosi s. in the bush. 

The E^senes, who had their rise" some 
two hundred years before Christ, believed 


in the immorfality of the soul, the exis- 
tence of angel.", and a future stale of te- 
wards and punishments, which, they >trp 
posed, extended only to thesoul; ; consider 
ing the body a mass of malignant matter,' 
the prison-house of the soul,- They be- 
Keved that everything was ordered by an 
eternal fatality, and commanded' to ah'stairt 
from meats, &c. 

But says the Apostle, if in this life only 
we have hope in Christ, we of all men ate 
most miserable. In the resurrection, we 
mean to be understood, thi-s svlf-.-we hody 
is raised, and none other; hut with dfffef- 

come out of their graveS; and none wil¥ 
contend that the soul is buried in the grave, 
with the body. Not coold he mean the 
body was the grave, which is the tenement 
of the sotd, as the body is nowhere called 
the grave Jobsays, (xix. 25— 27,) For 
I know that my Redeemer liveth, and that' 
he shall in the latter ffa'y stand upon the' 
earth; and though after my skin worms de- 
stroy this hody, fet in my flesh shall 1 see 
God; whom I shall see for myself, and 1 
mine eyes shall behold, and not another.— ^ 
This proves positively, that Job believed', 
first in the latter day, (resurrection,) Christ 

ent Qualifications; for the term resurrect, woofd come; arid that he, although the 
signifies to raise up that which was laid , worms might prey upon him, yet would 

down. For if it is a different hodv, it wilr sve him in hi* flesh. Dan. 

xii. 2, Many 

be a creation-,- or transmigration', and not a of them that sleep in the dust of the earth' 
resurrection. It )r* that which is sown, shall awake; s'brhe to everlasting life, and 
If is sown A 'natural body, but it is raised a some to everlasting shame and contempt.' 
spiritual. Now, what is sown? I he flesh, ! Acts xxiii. t 5 — 8, Men and brethren, I am 
not the Spirit. That which thou sowest is * Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee; of the" 
not quickened, except A die. If the dead hope and' resurrection of the 1 dead I am calr'- 

ri'se notat all^why are they then baptised 
fbf the dead? This is a figurative expres- 

0(1 in que-tion — for the Sadducees say that 
thereis' ho resurrection, neither angel nor* 

sion, and showy our death to sin artd iesur- spii it; but the Pharisees confess both;, 
reclion to newness of life, and our failh in Chapter rtxiv. 15, A'nd have hope toWai'd* 
the resurrection oft hrist. Ii is a beami- God which they themselves also allow, 
ful figure; as in baptism, the same body that' there shall' be a? resurrection of the' 
that is buried in the liqUi-l grave is rais. d dead, both of the just and unjust'. Chapter 
again, so in the resuireciion. In the fifth xXvi 7. 8, Unto which promise our twelve' 
chapter of John, Jesus saj s. The hour is frihes, instantly serving God day arid night/ 
coming, and now is, when the dead shall hope to come; for which hope's sake, kingS 
hear the voice of the Son of God, and they I Agrippay I am accused of the Jews. Why 
that hear shall live. This he spake in ref- should it be thought a thing incredible with' 
erence to quickening the soul, or making it yon, thai &ud Should raise the dead?' Here' 
alive from the dead; and as the Jews were : we see that the Apostle was arraigned and' 

tried, because he preached the resiirrection,- 
and he says to Timothy, that 1 sdme con-' 
renting trie faith have erred, saying that 1 
the resurrection is pa-t already, and there- 
by overthrow the faith of some. Acts xvii 
IS, And some said, What will this bab- 
blersay? Oihersome, He seernetb to be 
a se'ter forth of strange gods; because he' 
preached unto them Jesus and the resur- 

A few more quotations to prove that if 
is the body, that in to be raised, as you will 

astonished at this, he says, in vers* s 2S & 
29, Marvel not at this^ for the hour is com- 
ing', irt the which all that ate in their 
graves, shall hear his Voice, and shall come 
forth;-they that have done good, unto the 
resurrection of life; and they that have done 
evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. 
This could not have r< ference to regenera 
tion; for none do good before they are 
quickened into life. Neither could he 
mean the soul orspirit, in the morning of 
the resurrection} because they weie to 



find in 1* Cor. xy ,4 So also in ihe resurrec- 
tion of the dead; it is sown in corruption, il 
{israised in corruption,; it is sown a natural 
body, it is raised a spiritual body. 1 Tor. 
jiv. 19, 20, What, know ye not that your 
body is the temple of the Holy Ghost. 
*which is i.n you, .which you have of God? 
And, Ye are not }'aur own, for ye aie 
bought with a price; therefore glorify God 
^n your body and in your spirit, which are 
.God's. Rom. viii. 10, 11, And if Christ 
be in you, the body is dead because of sin; 
b,ut Ihe spirit is life, because of righteous 
ness. But if the Spirit of him that rained 
.up Jesus from the dead, dwell i.n you, he 
that raised up Christ from the dead, shall 
also quicken your mortal bodies by his. 
Spirit, that dwellelh in you. Here the 
Apostle clearly shows that we are bought 
^vith a pri.ce, both soul and body; and that 
we should, in both, glorify God, because 
jthey are God's. And if the Spirit thJ 
Raised up Jesus, that is, the power of God, 
jt (the power of God) shall also quicken 
{give life) to jour mortal bodies. Thai 
the soul, by regeneration, is alive by the 
Spirit or power of God; but the body is 
dead because of sin; but that same Spirit, 
/or power, will give life to our mortal bo- 
dies, jn the .morn/ng of the resurrection. 

VV'e9haU next show that Jesus has arisen, 
and how he arose, as we shall be like hint; 
. and lastly, show what that likeness is. 

That Christ has arisen from the dead, 
(we presume none will deny,) it is abun- 
dantly evident from the scriptures; as he 
testified he would arise on the third day; 
and upon which he founded all big preten- 
tions to being the true Messiah. Jesus 
said, destroy thjs temple, and in three 
days I will rear it up again. John x. 18, 
1 have power to lay it down, and power to 
lake jt again. This commandment have I j 
received of my Father. —John xi. 24, 25, 
Martha saith, unto him, J know that he 
shall rise again, in the resurrectjon at the 
last day. Jesus said unto her, 1 am t.he 
resurrection and the life; he that believe'ih 
in roe, though he were dead, yet shall he 

live. Aetsjcxxiii. 22,28, Saying none 
other things, than those which the proph- 
ets and iJo«es djA say should come; that 
Christ should sufTer, and that he should be 
the first that should arise from the dead. 
I Cor. xv. 3,8, For 1 delivered unto you, 
iirst of all, that which I also received, how 
ha ; t Chi ist died for our sins, according to 
the scriptures; and that he aro.«e from the 
dead — was seen of Cephas, then of the 12; 
alter tfeajl he was seen of above 500 br'n. 
at once; alter that he was seen of Junes, 
then of all the Apostles. And last of all, 
he was seen of me also, as one born out of 
due time. ^ers^s 12, 14. 16, 17, 20, Now 
if Christ be preached, |hat lie aro-e from 
the dead, how say some among you, that 
there is no resurrection of thp dead? liut 
if there be no resurrection of the dead, then 
is Chri.-t not risen. And if Christ be not 
risen, then is our preaching vain, and your 
lajiji is also vain. For if the dead rise not, 
then is Christ not risen. 4nd if Christ be 
not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in 
your sing. But now is Christ risen from 
the dead, and become the first fruits of 
♦.hem that slept. 

We see from the language of the Aposr 
tie, jn the foregoing quotations, that he 
coi.nects the resurrection of the dead with 
that f)f Jt sus; and if the de^d rise not, Jesus 
is not raised, and all our hopes and preten.- 
sjons to religion are vain. — He then an- 
swers the question, and says, But now is 
Christ risen from the dead; which proves 
positively the resurrection of the body, if 
he arose with the same body. Verse 26, 
Klse what shall they do which are baptized 
for the «h-ad, jf the dead rise not at all? 
Why are they then baptised for the dead? 
And now, brethren, if you do not believe 
in (he resurrection of the body, then never 
use the figure of a burial and resurrectipn. 
in baptism; as the Apostle says, in Rom. 
vi. 3, 5, Know ye not, that so many of u» 
as were baptized into Jesus Christ, 
were baptized into his death? There- 
fore ? we are buried with him by baptism 
into death* that like as Christ was raise*) 



up from ihe dead by ihe giorj' of the Fath- 
er, even so we also should walk in newness 
of life. For if we have been planted to- 
gether in the likeness of his death, we shall 
be also in the likeness of his resurrection 
Here the figure is used of a burial in bap- 
tism, to show our death to sin. and resur- 
rection to newness of life; that if we have 
been planted in the likeness of his death, 
we shall be in his likeness in the resur- 
rection; (not that we are so by regenera- 
tion, or by being raised from the liquid 
grave.) Matt, xxvii. 52, 53, and the graves 
were opened; and many bodies (not souls) 
of the saints which slept, arose, and came 
out of their graves (not out of their bodies) 
after his resurrection, and went into the 
holy city (into Jerusalem) and appeared 
unto many. Luke xxiv. 36, 37, 39, 40, 
And as they thus spake, Jesus himself 
stood in the midst of them, and saith unto 
them, Peaoe be unto you. But they were 
terrified and affrighted, and supposed that 
they had seen a spirit. Behold my hands 
and my feet, that it is I myself, handle 
me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and 
bones, as ye see me have. And when he 
had thus spoken, he showed them his 
hands and his feet. See also John xx. 19, 
21, 24, 26, & 27, But Thomas, one of the 
twelve, called Didymus, was not with 
them when Jesu^came. And after eight 
days, again his disciples were within, and 
Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the 
doors being shut, and stood in the middle, 
and said, Pfface be unto you. Then saith 
he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and 
behold my hands, and reach hither thy 
hand, and thrust it into my side, and be 
not faithless, but believing. How beauti- 
fully this shows the resurrection of the 
same body; for when they were in the 
house, and the doors closed, he could sud- 
denly appear in the midst, and say, Peace 
be unto you; show them the prints of the 
nails in his hands, and of the spear in his 
side, with all his flesh and bones; and in an 
instant be a spirit, and vanish out of their 

This clearly shows the power of God, 
in the resurrection of the body; that 

though itissown in weakness, he can raise 
it in power; and though it is sown a natu- 
ral body, it is raised a spiritual. 1 Cor. 
xv. 53, For this corruption must put on 
incorruption, and this mortal must put on 
immortality. 54, So when this corrupti- 
ble shall have put on incorruption, and 
this mortal shall have put on immortality, 
then shall be brought to pass the saying 
that is written, Death is swallowed up in 
victory. If then he is raised with the 
same body, we shall be like him, as we 
have before proved. But, say the Essenes, 
he lost that body on Mount Olivet. B'tt 
Stephen, the same year of his ascension, 
when he was stoned to death, said, "I see 
heaven open, and Jesus standing on the 
right hand of God." Paul, the year after 
saw him, as one born out of due time. 
But we have a quotation that defies skep- 
ticism itself. Read Rev. i. 17, 18, "Fear 
not, 1 am the first and the last; I am he 
that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I 
am alive for evermore, Amen; and 
have the keys of death and hell. This 
was sixty-three years after his ascension, 
and he says, 1 am he that liveth and tvas 
dead. No person will contend that the 
divinity died, but the flesh; now Jesus says, 
that which died is alive again. But it will 
be said, that it is the soul that is alive. 
We have proved that he arose with the 
same body, and went to Mount Olivet; 
and shall believe he went into heaven it- 
self with the same body, only it is spiritu- 
al, unless the disciples had given some evid- 
ence of that body's being left on the Mount. 
Lastly, we promised to show that we 
should be in his likeness in the resurrec- 
tion; and what that likeness will be. 1 
John iii.2, Beloved, now are we the sons 
of God; and it doth not yet appear what 
we shall be; but we know that, when he 
shall appear, we shall be like him; for we 
shall see him as he is. Phillippians iii. 21, 
■Who shall change our vile body, (not 
'soul,) that it may be fashioned like unto 
his glorious body according to the work- 
ing whereby he is able even to subdue all 
things unto himself. Rev. i. 13, 16, And 
in the midst of the seven candlesticks, one 


like unto the Son of Man, clothed with a 
garment down to the foot, and girt about 
the paps with a golden girdle. His head 
and his hairs were white like wool, as 
white as snow; and his eyes were as flames 
of fire; and his feet like unto fine brass, as 
if they burned in a furnace; and his voice 
as the sound of many waters. Matthew 
xvii. 2, And was transfigured before them; 
and his face did shine as the sun, and his 
raiment was white as the light. Revela- 
tions iv. 2, 3, And immediately I was in 
the spirit; and, behold, a throne was set in 
heaven, and one sat on the throne. And 
he that sat, was, to look upon, like a jas- 
per and a sardine stone; and there was a 
rainbow round about the throne, in sight 
like unto an emerald. 

0, brethren and sisters, what a glorious 
appearance! and although the most lively 
figures are used, to show forth that like- 
ness, yet it is but a faint representation of 
what we shall be, when we shall be like 
him. We shall outshine the sun in his 
strength, and be forever with the Lord. 
When we consider all these things, what 
manner of persons ought we to be, in all 
godly conversation. — We should serve 
God, and love him fervently, and one ano- 
ther with pure hearts, as brethren. And 
seeing we have such a glorious High Priest, 
let us hold fast our profession; or stand 
fast in the liberty wherewith Christ hath 
made us free, and be not entangled again 
with the yoke of bondage. And although 
we may suffer persecutions and afflictions, 
yet he will finally bring us off more than 
conquerors, through him that loved us, 
and gave himself for us. 

Lei cares like a wild deluge come, 
And storms of sorrow fall; 

May I but safely reach my home, 
My God, my heaven, my all, 

James Pugh, Clerk. 


Chambers County, Ma. \ 
Nov. 14. 1845. 3 
Brother Beebe: — I know of no lan- 
guage that would more properly represent 

the situation of Zion in this part of Cod's 
moral vineyard, than that made use of by 
the prophet Jeremiah in his lamentation- — 
"How is the gold become dim! how is the 
most fine gold changed!" That God has 
a chosen and peculiar people here I have 
no doubt; but many of them, according to 
all human appearance, are in a very cold 
and indifferent state. Those distinguished 
by the name of Primitive Baptists, appear 
to be well established in the doctrine of 
God's eternal purpose, which he purposed 
in Christ before the world began; and that 
all men are dead' in sins, and cannot, by 
any means or merit of their own, extricate 
themselves from this state of sin and death; 
— that God chose his people in Christ be- 
fore the world began, and that Christ came 
into the world and laid down his life for 
the sheep, according to the stipulations of 
! the everlasting covenant, and could do 
I nothing more, nor stop short; — that the 
| merits, sufferings, death, and resurrection 
| of Christ, can only be applied hy the Holy 
j Ghost; — that there is no other means by 
i which those sheep, who are children of 
I wrath by nature, even as others, can be 
quickened aud born again, but the blood 
of Christ applied by the Spirit; — that be- 
ing quickened and born of the Spirit they 
are clothed with righteousneess of God, 
and shall never perish, nor be lost, and 
that God calls and qualifies whom he will 
to preach his gospel and feed his flock, &c. 
These points of doctrine, all Old School 
Baptists, so far as my knowledge extends, 
are firmly settled down upon, and I con- 
sider those points to be perfectly in ac- 
cordance with the word of God. But still 
I must say, "How is the gold become 

What God has done for his people, and 
the sure foundation upon which they are 
built, does not, in my opinion, yj the small- 
est degree, set aside the duty of the Chris- 
tian. . While we adore and admire the rich 
provision of grace by which poor sinners 
are saved with an everlasting salvation, let 
us try to consider the obligations whi<h 
each child of grace is under to fear God and 
keep his commandments, for this is thr 

r*UM my is &APimi 

whoh duly nf man. Many of ns I fear 
are too often trying to do what God Ins 
never commanded nor required at our' 
hands. It is not the duty of God's children 
to quicken and regenerate the soul, because 
God has never commanded them to do it. 
It is notour duty to try to find out what 
God has never revealed in his word, for 
secret things belong to him and not to us. 
Therefore, we should never try to prove 
from God's word that the devil is self- 
existent, for if God has said so in his "re- 
vealed things," I have not yet seen it. We 
are admonished to grow in grace and in 
the knowledge of the truth, and not so 
much in the knowledge of the devil, for if 
we are like the saints in Paul's day, we 
know enough of him now, and are not ig- 
norant of his ' devices (2 Cor. ii. 1L) 
We may talk much of our Jove to God, 
and call him Master, and )^ord, but if we 
do not the tilings which he says, we give 
but little evidence of our love. Christ 
said to his disciples, '-If you love me, keep 
my commandments." Have we obeyed 
as obedient children, and not been confor- 
med to the world? Have we set our affec- 
tions on things above, and not on things of 
the earth?— (Col iii. 2.)' J fear that many, 
if their affection is hot. set on things on the 
earth, their actions go to prove that they 
have but little regard for the instruction of 
Christ, to seek not what ye sha'J eat, or 
whatyou shall drink,' neither be ye of 
doubtful mind, and therefore are become! 
like all the nations of the world, for after i 
all these things do Vey seek, but yourj 
Father knpweth that yon have need of 
these things, and you need not fear, for 
by keeping his commandments these things 
shall be added to you, for Christ says they 
shall, (Lukexiil 29— 31.) 

I do not say that Christ is not with his 
churches here, (I say churches in respect 
to location^) because I find that the Son ol 
Man walked in the midst of the seven 
churches in Asia, which are represented 
by the seven golden candlesticks, and yet 
there was something against ail of I hem 
except two. I do not think that any ol 
the churches here hold the doctrine of Ba- 

laam, or of the Nicolaitanes, as the ehurc-fi 
in Pcrgamus did, nor do I think .that any 
suffer that old benevolent lady Jezebel to 
teach among them, as the church in Thya- 
tira did; but perhaps some have left their 
first love, as they did in Ephesus. (Rev. 
ii. 4.) Some may be like the church in 
Sardis, and should therefore be watchful, 
and strengthen the things which remain, 
that are ready to die. Some like Laodi- 
ceans, are neither cold nor hot, and say 
thoy have need of nothing. 

May the Lord instruct his. people and 
enable them to speak often one to ahothor, 
that they may he edified, as they did an*- 
ciently. But the gold is become dim, and 
many who say they fear the Lord now 
speak often about one another. 

These things ought not so to be among 
Christians. Let love be without dissimu" 
lation. Be kindly affectionate one to ano- 
ther with brotherly love. This brotherly 
love is the love that God loves his children 
with, and by it, it is said we give evidence 
of being disciples of Christ. 

The Old School Baptists here have not 
forsaken the assembling of themselves to- 
p-ether occasionally to hear the word 
preached, but I doubt very much our hav- 
insa proper regard for the admonition of 
the Apostle James when he says, (i. 22.) 
to be doers of the word, and not hearers 
Only, and we forget what manner of crea- 
tures we are, and deceive ourselves many 
times by such forget fulness. \Vhen we 
hear the word, like the man looking in the 
class, we behold the beauties of Jesus and 
also our own deform ity, and what poor 
helpless creatures we are, and when we 
get away we resolve and resolve again that 
we will "do better," and therefore we de- 
ceive ourselves by mounting the poor old 
'■do bet j'er." horse, and not being niii.dfnl 

that Christ has emphatically said, "\Vith- 

'•„, ( f,p j , f }.,,- 1.. ;•' _ it . 

out me ye can do nothing." But. if we 
would look into t,he perfect law of liberty, 
we should find that where the Spirit of the 
Lord is there is liberty, and if we contin- 
ue therein, "this man shall be blessed in 
(not for) his deeds." 

I will now bring my scattering remark* 


to a close, by snying, these are some of the 
/'signs of the times," and if you think this 
imperfect communication worthy of a 
place in your paper, insert it; and if not, 
just lay it aside and send me one copy of 
your paper for the ensuing year; directed 
to Lafayette. Yours in gospel bonds: 

The pitf.inTi re b iphst. 

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This publication is principally intended 
to defend the Old School United Baptists 
from the many aspersions cast upon them 
by deluded pei sons professing their own 
faith, because they cannot conscientiously 
engage in the various money making 
schemes of the day, ostensibly intended to 
promote Christianity, but evidently tend- 
ing to destroy the great and fundamental 
principles upon which it is based, by ma- 
king a gain of godliness. We wish to have 
it distinctly understood, that we are not 
inimical to Masonry, temperance, the dis- 
tribution of the Bible, or ihe spead of the 
Gospel — but we do condemn the mingling 
of professors and non-professors of religion 
in societies; and tiie making a "craft" of 
religious matters by professors, in every 
shape and form whatsoever. 

Believing that Theological Schools, Bi- 
ble, Missionary, Tract and Sunday School 
Union Societies, are the same in principle 
— unscriptural — savor more of "lucre" 
than of "good will towards men," we are 
opposed to them. 

Some of the children of God, surround- 
ed with and interspersed amongst the ad- 
vocates of missionary and other societies, 
are denied the happiness of conversing 
wiih those of the same judgment. Qthers, 
while grieved with beholding corruptions 
of the doctrine and practice of the gospel, 
are not able to speak for themselves! This 
is designed, under God, for their relief. 
We shall aim not so much to please the 
fancy, as to inform the judgment — more to 
afford matter for solid and lasting comfort, 
than to give a momentary glow to the feel- 
ings. We consider that the cause of truth 
and of Christian solace, is our cause. Deep- 
ly impressed with the beliefthat the bless- 
ing even of truth itself is of the Head of 



the Church, we cast ourselves upon Him, and what was the cause of this great dis 

and fend our little paper ahroad praying 
the Lord to carry with it some joy to 
those who are in tribulation, and a little 
rest to those who are troubled. 

We have repeated applications for cop- 
ies of the History of the Kehukee Associ- 
ation, and having some copies in sheets, we 
have concluded to sell them at 50 cents per 
copy, so that persons at a distance can get 
them conveniently through the mail, and 
have them bound in their own vicinity. 
The price of those bound in leather is $1. 
It contains 300 pages, aud the title page 
reads thus: — 

"A concise History of the Kehukee 
Baptist Association, from its original rise 
to the present time, wherein are shown its 
first constitution, increase, numbers, prin- 
ciples, form of government, decorum, rev- 
olutions that Association has passed thro', 
rtrivals, ministers, churches, eonfession of 
faith, times and places when and where 
Associations have been holder), queries and 
their answers, and all other useful articles 
relative to church history — in two parts. 
By Elder Joseph Biggs, Pastor of the Bap- 
tist church at Skewarkey." 


Germanton, Stokes Co., N. C. 7 
Dec. 10/A, 1845. S 
Dear Brethren: For the first time, I 
make an attempt to addressing brethren of 
the Primitive faith. But you may ex- 
pect my communication to be like the 
writer quite weak. In looking over ma- 
ny "Primitives", I have never seen any 
communication from Stokes county; 
therefore, I thought it not amiss to let my 
brethren know, in part, of our affairs. 
There are some few of us in this section 
that profess to be lovers of divine truth; 
but our love appears to be like some gold 
I have read of that "Become dim." Yes 
indeed, a cloud appears to hang over us also. 
The churches sometime ago became ve- 
ry much excited, and there are some 
sparks of that fire that has not gone out: 

tress amongst us? I can't, I fear, give a 
correct answer, but I will say this much: 
The trial and exclusion of John L. Wilson 
— an old minister of the gospel — has pro- 
duced this excitement. He being a minis- 
ter for near forty years, in good standing, 
and then be excluded by his children, 
[those he baptized] was with some too 
much to bear. Some cleave to him yet, 
notwithstanding he being in disorder. He 
still preaches and holds part of his church. 
And so it is; and whether a reconciliation 
will take place, God only knows. I fear 
never in Wilson's case — no prospect at 
this time. 

And this affair, making its appearance 
amongst us, has roused the feelings of the 
non-professors and unbelievers, so much 
so, that almost overy one wants to take a 
stand for or against. But, I hope that 
God will glorify himself in bringingabout 
a reconciliation. Oh, that 1 could see it! 
I could give a history of the whole trans- 
action; but perhaps it would do more 
harm than good. And now what shall I 
say more? I be* leave to say something 
more about times. 

Although this affair took place, the 
brethren generally appear to be united; 
and they ought, seeing that there are so 
manv adversaries. We have many; and 
it appears, that those adversaries are in 
some degree united in one thing; and that 
is, to put down the Old Order, or Primi- 
tive Baptists. But if God be for us, who 
can be against us? And although provi- 
dence appears dark and mysterious with 
us at limes, "we know that all things work 
together for good to them that love God, 
to them who are called according to his 
purpose." The "good benevolent peo- 
ple" are coming in amongst us. They 
are doing what they have been doing — 
trying to divide the churches. I am 
wrong — they want all; yet they had rath- 
er get part, if they could do no better. 

They call themselves, Baptists! and 
they "love the dear people" so well! and 
the "Heathen" too!! They would do 
much for sinners — help God more than 


any people; but the "means" is scarce. 
They want to send the Gospel. Yes. 
(jO :o 500 Q £^) "Missionaries could be im- 
mediately placed by the home Mission- 
ary Society in field;" if they had the 
means'.!'. Money they me4n. Is the 
above their language in truth? Yes it is. 
I have it, and let them deny it if they dare. 
I say a money hireling teacher, is the 
most contemptible being in the land of 
America, or any where else. 

According lo their doctrine, if they had 
money enough they would soon convert 
the world. Brethren, what is this? May 
I give an answer? I will. What is it? 
Nothing else but blasphemy against God 
Almighty. Poor sinners are not redeem- 
ed with corruptible things, as gold and 
silver; but with the precious blood of 
Christ. It used to be so said, and God 
says, "I change not." So I can say to 
poor sinners that never had $10 at once, 
Jesus can make you whole every whit. 

If money is to be the means of convert- 
ing the heathen, they have no claim to the 
means of grace, the application of the blood 
of Christ. Behold and see what they are 
doing in their preaching. What? say you. 
They have put the gospel on a middle 
way ground, -in order to suit nature. They 
are afraid to come out plain, for fear that 
they will render themselves unpopular to 
theft hearers, and such a man knows no ! 
more about the grace of God than a two 
year old child experimentally; and such a 
man, that is, such as keep back truth in or- 
der to gain popularity, is an abomination 
to God, and is making his way to hell as 
fast as time moves. 

Election — Predestination. What say 
I of those two words? They are links of 
God's glorious gospel, and every Christian 
(if the tw« be explained,) will acknow- 
ledge them and love them, (to wit,) Elec- 
tion and Predestination. For the heirs of 
promise were chosen in Christ before the 
foundation of the world, elected, and pre- 
destinated unto the adoption of children, 
&c. &c. Now, free willers, missionaries, 
and Arminians of every sort, what say you 
to this? Deny it if you dare! 

And the final perseverance of the saintt 
is another link in this gospel chain, and 
you deny that too, if you dare. All Israel 
shall be saved, God says, and you carnal 
teachers send a part of the heirs of promise 
to hell, if you can; dethrone God and burst 
up heaven if you can, and not before. 

Good news for you, brethren; the body 
of Christ, (the church,) will be presented 
to God a glorious body, having neither 
spot nor wrinkle. This is God's decree 
and will stand. I must stop. I have said 
enough for this time. Yours in gospel 
love. R. W. HILL. 

From the Signs of the Times. 


The Baltimore ( Old School) Baptist As- 
sociation, to the churches of which she 
is composed, sends love in the Lord. 
Beloved Brethren: — Having been 
privileged by our heavenly Father to meet 
according to appointment, to hear your 
letters and those of sister Associations in 
correspondence, in return, we address you 
in this our annual epistle, a few thoughts 
on Psalms cxlv. 9: 

"His tender mercies are over all his works." 
The subject of God's mercy, as set forth 
in this text, has been greatly perverted by 
various commentators. The Jirminian 
affirms that God has contemplated mercy 
for all his creatures, and offers it to them 
on the condition of their accepting it; and 
that many are so hardened that they reject 
the overtures, and God's benevolent de- 
signs are thus frustrated. If this view of 
the subject could be established in truth, it 
would show man to be more potent than 
God; that God would save them if he could 
obtain their permission. 

It is proper here to observe, that while 
in the common providence of God, his 
mercy is extended to all his works of crea- 
tion, to men, beasts, birds, &c, causing 
the earth to unbosom her treasures for 
their supply — feeding the raven, as well as 
the monarch; & to things inanimate as well 
as to living creatures; sending his rain up- 
on the wilderness as well as the cultivated 



field — and also, "Tha£ he may show his 
wrath, enduring with much long suffering 
the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:" 
yet his covenant mercy as contemplated 
hy the Psalmist in the words under con- 
sideration, is restricted to his works of 

The Armenians, in the absence of spiritu- 
al light, fail to discriminate between the 
new covenant mercies of God, and his 
providential mercies, and jn their blind- 
ness deny even the right of God to have 
mercy on whom he will have mercy, and 
£o harden whom he will. §ee Romans ix. 
15. The Arminian putg much stress upon 
the word all, vyhjeh occurs in our text, 
and says it is unlimited — jt must apply to 
all his works. But while they thus con- 
tend, they will not admit that fallen angels 
are included in it, but are themselves com- 
pelled to limit t'ne application of the word. 
— But, let us inquire after the mind of the 
Spirit, which must be in harmony with 
£he word which he has indjted. The mer- 
cies of God are found recorded, early in 
the Book of God — in the mention there 
made of the woman's seed, and also in ma- 
py instances throughout the saqred vol- 
ume; in one remarkable instance, when he 
proclaimed his name to Moses, "The Lord, 
the Lqrd Gqd, rncrciful and gracious, long 
suffering, and abundant in goodness and 
truth." Exodus xxxiy. 6. It is general- 
ly admitted that God is merciful by all 
classes; but of the nature and manner of 
his mercies, there is much dissention a- 
mong men. Some indulge the hope that 
pod will have mercy on them because 
fhey have abstained from some evils, or 
performed some good works; and however 
these may disagree in many things, they j 
seem unjtedly to believe that G.od is jn j 
duty hound tQ show mercy for some sup- 
posed goqdqegs in the creature: and it is to 
be lamented that many who are palled 
ministers of Christ, are propagating the 
same carnal notion, and asserting that, if 
man will be merqiful unto himself God 
will be merciful unto him. Many are at 
this day representing that God is making 
proffers of merer to men who are dead |n j 

trespasses and sins. But this is as oppo- 
site to the gospel as infidelity itself can be. 
While there is such diversity of opinions 
and doctrines entertained by professors 
and profane upon the subject of mercy, 
how important it is that we should have a 
correct knowledge of the subject. The 
mercy intended in the text under consid- 
eration, we understand to be that spiritual, 
new covenant, peculiar, discriminating, 
and saying mercy in Christ Jesus, which 
flows only to the election of grace through, 
his atoning blood, and is revealed to the 
heart by Jehovah, the Spirit. God's mer- 
cy is in glorious harmony with all his at» 
tributes, and not as some have supposed, 
that mercy is a darling attribute, and 
justice a strange work of God. Such a 
view presents a strange god— a god whose 
attributes conflict one with another — but 
such is not the God of our salvation, as se£ 
forth jn the Bible. The God of all mercy 
is the God of justice, and we ape. not war- 
ranted by any revelation he has made, to 
believe that he delights more in mercy 
than injustice. "But the mercy of the 
Lord is from everlasting to everlasting up- 
on them that fear him," ^.q. Psalm cui. 
17. The only channel through which this 
mercy can flow is Christ Jesus, and mercy 
always supposes its object tp be miserable, 
and guilty — helpless, and deserving wrath: 
and this is in reality the case of all the elect 
of God, as connected with Adam in h'3 
transgression and fall; as, in their carnal na- 
tures children of wrath even as others— - 
equally depraved — with natures black as 
hell, disposed only to evil, and that con- 
tinually, having neither disposition nor 
ability to help themselves. This being the 
true condition of God's children, and God 
being strictly a just God — a God who wilj 
by no means clear the guilty, rendered it 
absolutely inclispensible that a Saviour 
should be provided, mighty and able tq 
redeem from sin, purge from guilt, and 
make righteous those on whom God de- 
signed to reveal his mercy. And the glo-r 
ry of the gospel is tq reveal such a Saviour, 
who has made satisfaction to God, as a just 
God, for the transgressions of his elect — - 



cancelled the demands of law a'nd justice, 
therein they were involved. One who 
has, in his own person, legally endured the 
wrath and curse which wars due on account 
of their sins, and by his own most precious 
blood cleansed them from all sin. This 
Saviour, Jehovah, Jesus! Goo manifested 
in the flesh— the Self- existent "1 am," in 
thus displaying his mercy, has exhibited 
his lave, wisdom, justice, holiness, and 
every perfection of his eternal Godhead. 
Herein if made manifest how-, or in what 
way, he is just, and yet the ju'stifier of the 
Ungodly. "A just God and a Saviour!" 
and all therefore who' are the objects of 
ibis special mercy, shall assuredly become, 
in due time, the subjects of it experimen- 
tally.- They are called vessels of mercy, 
and as Vessels they Shall be filled with mer- 
cy, and fitted for the glory of God, in Gad's 
appointed time. No hardness of their 
hearts", fio'r neglect af means can possibly 
preverii iht perfect accomplishment of 
God's designs of mercy towards them. 

When 1 God is" aboirt to make known his 
mercy to his children, he makes them ac- 
quainted with their real condition aS sin- 
ners, the depravity of their hearts, and 
makes them see and feel the justice of 
God in their condemnation, and their Utter 
Inability fo'Sa've themselves, and thus pre- 
pares them to appreciate the display of his 
mercy. In the day of his power he 
makes them a willing people. Not only 
willing, and desirous above alt things to 
enjoy his mercy, but to honor, love, adore, 
and obey him as the Captain of their salva- 
tion, the High Priest of their profession, 
and the King and Head over all things to 
them. They are enlightened and made to! him g" ood - We desire a continuation of 1 

they make known God's faithfulness to all 
generations. For I have said, Mercy 
shall be built up forever; thy faithfulness 
shall thou establish in the very heavens. 
Psalms Ixxxix. 1, 2. 

Now, brethren, May grace, mercy, and 
peace, from God our Father, and from the 
Lord Jesus Christ, be vvith you all. A men. 

William C&iswell, Clerk. 

The Baltimore Baptist Jlssociatidri, to 
the several churches and ^Associations 
with whom she corresponds, Sendtth 
Christian salutation; 
JJeAr brethrei^'— Beloved rrt tne 
Lord, we have reason to he thankful for 
the privilege we have enjoyed of meeting 
together in Our associate capacity, and see- 
ing each other's faces in the flesh, a'nd 
hearing the gospel of our Lord a'nd 1 Sa- 
viour Jesus Christ. We have been greatly 
refreshed by our messengers and ministers, 
and we can truly say, How beautiful upon 
the mountains are the feet of h'rrri that 
bringeth good tidings, that publisheth 
peace: that bringeth good tidings of good 
— that pub'liSheth salvation', that Saith un- 
to Zion, "Thy God reigneth." We are a 
poor, despised, and aflficted people, — we 
have many things to lament, and nothing- 
to rejoice in, save in the cress of our Lord 
and Saviour Jesus Christ. 

The state of some of bur churches indi 
cateS that the Lord may be about to re- 
move his candlestick from those places. 
He hath all pb'wer, and will do as seemeth' 

tee and admire the way of mercy through 
Christ aS their Redeemer, and they are 
made to hunger and thirst as living souls, 
for his righteousness, and the prayer of the 
Self-abased publican becomes suited to their 
ease — "God be merciful to me, a sinner," 
a'nd asthe happy recipients of Sovereign, 
distinguishrng^, and everlasting mercy, even 
of the sure mercies of David, with the in- 
spired Psalmist they will sing of his mer- 
cies forever, and with their mouths willi 

yblir correspondence. Our next Associa- 
tion will be with the Bethel church, Mont- 
gomery county, (near Poblesville,) Mary- 
land, commencing on the Thursday before 
the third Lord's day in May, rS4ff, where 
we shall be pleased to See a goodly num- 
ber of your ministers and messengers. 

William Chiswell, Clerk. 

Keep sound wisdom and discretion. 




Waver ley, Tenn., ? 
December 26 th, 1845. 5 

Dear Brethren: 1 have received my 
papers very well all the time, that I have 
sent for them; and have heen very much 
satisfied with the contents, only when I 
see the Old Baptists complaining of such 
men as Mark Bennett, for leaving them. 
It makes me wonder, for John says, they 
went out from us, because they were not. 
of us. And when men in their zeal call 
on Christians of all denominations, it 
alarms me; for I know of none but one 
sort, and that is the sort that the Old Bap- 
tist claims; and they must be born of the 
spirit. John — the Old Baptist — said, that 
which is born of the flesh is flesh. ! 

So now, my dear brethren, don't grieve 
after them, for he is to present to himself 
a glorious church without spot; for we I 
may in our zeal take in many of the 
flesh, and they won't live with the spirit. 
And it is so with men made preachers. 
They preach as they were learned; but the 
Lord has not said to the church, send your 
young men to school, to make them able to 
cope with the world. So I think that the 
Lord will purge his church, and the trash 
he will let the antichrist crew have. But 
my brethren, you know the wheat is 
his own; for we by nature are not 
wheat. I 

So now, you may know my mind on 
them, for you all may learn from the New 
Testament how it reads, and what the 
Lord said on the part of his church; for he 
said, thine they were, and thou gave them 
me. And we hear the Father say, thou 
shall call his name Jesus, for he shall save I 
hi* people from their sins. And many 
more we know may be found to the same | 
point. But we know the natural man re- 
ceives not the things of the spirit; for they 
are foolishness unto him. 

I hope the Lord has saved me by his 
life and death, and arose for me and all of 
the church, and has given us his word to 
go by through this life. And when I see j 
Tien trying to turn a people from the scrip- 1 

tures, I think of the scriptures and cry out r 
a bad sign. 

So now I stop, and you all may know 
my mind on these points. 


From the Goshen Clarion. 


The following is a statement carefully 
compiled by us, of the amount of money 
reported as having been received the last 
year by the various benevolent societies, 
at their late anniversary meetings in the 
city of New York: 

American Tract Society, $ 152,376 78 
American Home Missionary 

Society, 122,163 S2 

Foreign Evangelical Society, 18,744 74 
New York State Coloniza- 
tion Society, 5,756 00 
Female Moral Reform 

Society, 6,820 06 

American Anti-Slavery 

Society, 8,556 00 

American Bible Society, 166,652 00 

American Seaman's Society, 17,322 00 
Presbyterian Board of 

Missions, 82,672 00 

Baptist Board of foreign 

Missions, 82,276 20 

Baptist Foreign Bible 

Society, 34,562 70 

Society for meliorating the 

condition of the Jews, 3,716 00 

American Board of commis- 

sionersof Foreign Missions, 185,000 00 
Missionary Society of the 

Methodist E. Church, 121,535 55 

Total, 1,008,154 69 

The above amount shows a large in- 
crease in the last fiscal year over that ofthe 
previous year, by several thousand dollars. 
The Rev. Dr. Armstrong attributes this 
increase in part to the secular press, which 
he said had been the means of diffusing a 
greatly increased amount of information 
through the land. 

Against true benevolence, Heaven for- 



bid that we should say one word to impair 
its usefulness. But owing to their great 
popularity, may not some be induced to 
aid in their support who are not governed 
by the true standard of uninterested ben- 
evolence, and which, in that event, would 
tend to bring religion into disrepute? The 
standard for true and uninterested benevo- 
lence was laid down some 1800 years ago, 
that "When thou doest alms, let not thy 
left hand know what thy right hand doeth; 
that thine alms may be in secret." Are 
those who contribute to those societies 
governed by the foregoing rule? or are they 
seconding benevolent resolutions, and con- 
tributing their money to those institutions 
for the purpose of having their names her- 
alded forth in the newspapers throughout 
the Union? If so "Take heed that you do 
not your alms before men to be seen of 
them, as the hypocrites do in the syna- 
gogues and in the streets, that they may 
have glory of men." And may it not be 
that while we are contributing our thous- 
ands, and burning with zeal for the dis- 
tressed condition of the Chinese, Sand- 
wich Islanders, Siamese and the Hottentots 
of Africa, &c, that we are neglecting the 
poor who are suffering for bread and cloth- 
ing in our own villages and neighborhoods? 
If so, we do not love our neighbor as our- 
self. This subject is beautifully illustrated 
by the following anecdote of the celebrated 
John Randolph, while on a visit to a fe- 
male friend. He found her surrounded 
with her seamstresses, making up a quan- 
tity of clothing. "What work have you 
on hand?" "O sir, I am preparing this 
clothing to send to the poor Greeks." On 
taking leave at the steps of the mansion, he 
saw some of her servants in need of the ve- 
ry clothing which their tender hearted 
mistress was sending abroad. He exclaim- 
ed — "Madam, the Greeks are at your 


The Olive Tree. C. M. 
Jesus our Lord was crucified, 
For sinners such as we; 

Upon the cross he bled and died, 
The blessed olive tree. 

He's now the way to joys on high, 

And so the truth we see; 
To him for refuge we must fly, 

He is our olive tree. 

He is the life of all that lives. 
He sets from bondage free; 

This life he also freely gives, 
He is our olive tree. 

He is the resurrection too, 

His graces all are free; 
His love it tra-fi all wonders do, 

He is our olive tree. 

He is the shepherd of the sheep, 
And they shall plainly see; 

His hand will all securely keep, 
He is their olive tree. 

He is the door thev enter in, 

He sets at liberty: 
Thev find a pardon for their si n, 

He is their olive tree. 

He is the true and heavenly bread, 

The bread of life we see; 
And by his grace we all are fed, 

He is our olive tree. 

He is the true and living vine, 
His work" are all substanoh; 

In him the)' shall forever shine, 
He is their olive branch. 



The General Judgment. S. M. 
1 his is a world of wo, 

A world of sin and death; 
But the blight world to which we go, 

We only see by faith. 

This world must fade away, 

And nature faint and die; 
And all must see in that great day, 

The lofty burning sky. 

This world of sin and death, 

Must all to ruin go; 
And each must lose his mortal breath, 

We see, and hear, and know. 

This world must pass away, 

And vanish like a scroll; 
And then will come the judgment day, 

And we must stand or fall. 

B. MAY. 
Macon, Ga. May 6, 1845. 


rftiiftrrittc baptist.- 



tiiffln Carolina. C.B.Hassell, W7//(«ms/o/. 
R. M. G. Moore, German/on. W. w.Mizell, /*/</- 
frto«/*V BfcnjyBynum, Nahunta Depot, H'.Ave- 
jt^JIvtrasboro'' . B u rwefTTem pie, Raleigh. Th os. 
Barley, Smithfeld. James. H. Sasser, Waynes- 
boro'. Johh rKdfti, .Sinrfy Gre'e/f. L. B, Bennett' 
Heathville. Cor^s Canaday, Cravensville, Wil- 
liam Welch, Abbott's Creek, A. B, Bains, 
Jry&arihqpe. C.T.Sawyer, Powell"* Paint, rsaiic 
Tillery, Irapland, H. Wilkersbn 1 , WestPoliit. Jas. 
Miller, Milton Park. Isaac Meekinsand Samuel 
Rogers, Columbia. Wnn M. Rushing, White's 
Store, fairies H.Smith, Wilmington, Jacob Her- 
ring, Goldsboro" '. ^V'I*atnrn. Elizabeth City, Ad- 
am Hooker, Salem, C/iurcK,' Maximilian Tatum, 
CW/ Spring. 

.South Carolina. Wm. Si Shaw, Hock Mills 
W. B. Villard, Sr. Aiken. M.McGV'aw, Brown's. 
J'. Li Simpson, Winnsboro 1 . Ji G'i Bowers, Whip- 
py' Swamp', VVr*i'» Nelson, Camden, G'i Mai-' 
thews, Germanvitte. J. G. Lucas, Lexington CH. 
G&ohgia. John McKenney, Forsyth. Thomas 
AVnis, Lexington. John'M. Field, Macon. Jorvii 
W. Turner, Pleasant Hill. Wlliam Trice and 
William D.Taylor, Tho naston. Ezra McCrary," 
Warrcnton. Prfbr Lewis, Th6'mas6itti, f, Las- 
setter, Pern6h. A1>uer Durham, Greenville, Jos. 
tbv?i\],Jquilld. Geo. Leeves.Mitledgevi/k. Jesse 
obre, Irwin ton. \Vrii. J. Parker, Cheii'uba. JaSiP. 
Us, Pineville, F. Haggard ,Mhins. A.M.Thomp-' 
e'ori, F&rt galley, Daniel 0* Nee], OUve Grove. John 
VVa^yhe", Cain's, R. Si Hamrick, Carroll/on. D. 
Smith', Coo/ Spriqg Moses H : . Denrn'an; Marietta 
Jethro Oatfis, Mulberry Grove, Edmund Dumas", 
Johnstonville. Joel Colley, Covington, Isham 
Edwards, Marion. Joseph Daniel, Fish's. Wil- 
lis Si Jarrell, M. G, Summerfield. Daniel Bi 
Douglass, Bainbridge. Ri L. Hayrte, Lebanon, 
T.w.Dearing, Cotton River., K, Davis, Gretn Hi\\, 
Axabama. A.Keaton,/fr//;/<»?r. H.Dance&W. 
Bixzell,£u/aU\ E'.B'ell, Liberty Hill. D, Uafford. 
Greenville. I .G. Walker, Milton. H : i Williams", //"- 
vdnd, J. Daniel, Claiborne, K.Daniel, Cliurcltllill- 
J. Carpenter, St. Clinton, J, McQueen, Lowndesboro' 
W*m.Talley, Mount Mori ah, G. Her ring, Clay ton, 
B Upchureh, Benecola. Si Hamrick, Planlers- 
ville. James Si Morgan, Dayton. Rufus Daniel, 
Jhmeston, Wm. Powell, Ydungsville, R. w. Car-' 
lifele, Moitnt Hickory . Joel Hi Chambless, Lowe- 
t/ille. P. Pickett, China Grove, John w. Pellum, 
Prankl'm, John Harrell, Missouri. Wm. Thom- 
as", Gainer's Store. K. Mi Amos, Midway, Jos. 
Hblloway'', Activity. K. Bi Slallings, Livingston, 
Jissi Jones, Suggsville, Nathan Amason, Sumter- 
tlille. Allen Moore, Intercourse, John Bryan, Sr. 
Fultifsvitle, Joseph Soles, Farmersville, Luke 
Haynle, arid Be'nj. Lloyd, Wetumpka. N. N. 
Bartndfe, Mill Pi.rl, Jesse Taylor, Jluburm A. 
Hatley*, Pintla/a. Vincent Williams, Mobile. 
"^6(irig : Smith; Eufaula. T. J. Foster, Bell's Lan- 
ding. Henry Cason; White water, John Mil- 
ler, New Market, Henry Petty, PickensviWe. D. 
R. P. King, PaineeviMe, John whitehead, Jr. 
Pleasant Plains. 

Tbnkksse«: Michael Burkhalter, Cheekwille. 
Solomon Ruth, Wesley, William Croom, Jacktien. 

Wm. S, Smith, Winchesfft. \ n E. Doothi'tV 
Lynchburg, (.. Turner, Warerlu. Henry Ran 
dolph, Snoiysvil/e. Pleasant A.Witt,^ii«er/w7/e. 
William McBee, Old Town Creek, Robert Gr'e- 
S ory, J/hens. A. Burroughs, Moore's X Roads 
Joshua Yeats, Shelbyville. James Shelton, Per'- 
fwM- SbadrachM us tain,Zm/*5W^ Natrlim 
S. McDowell. Pazewcll, Henry 'l'urner, Fay. 
ettei'llle. Isaac Moore, Ripley, 

Mississippi'. William Ager, Caledonia. Wil 
Lara Huddleston, Thomaston. Naihan Tirris 
Kosciusko, Simpson Parks, Lexington. John s| 
Daniel, Cofton Gin Port. Mark Prewett, Abe/, 
deen, James M". Wilcox, Louisville. EdWnd 
beeman, Ihomaslon. John Erwiri, Lincoln, Wil- 
liam Davis, Houston. C.Nichols, Stump Bridge 
WootenHill, Cobksville. Jo.t^n Davidsori'. Car 
rolllon. Thomas - Mathews, Black Hawk. J'ahes 
Lee, Beatie's Bluff. James T. S. Cockerfiam, 
Grab Springs, James Crawley, Minghdma. Al- 
fred Ellis, Waverky. Josrph. Edwards, Nnv 
Albany. Thomas C, Hunt, McLeod'i. Jbhh' Hal- 
| bert, Nushville. Jssse Hiiey, Dlcat'ur,' W^jtson 
I Hunt, Stewards, John Seal lorn. . Pie man/. Mount. 
O. w. White, Jacinto. John Kinnard', Daley'* 
; X floods. 

Florida. Hartwell Watkins, Mohticet/a^ 
I LobisiA>fA. Tbos Paxton, Greensboro', Jas. 
Pei kins and Nee.l bam' Coward, Big Woo'as. L. 
G. McGmiirhey, Ballieu's Ferry. Benjamin Gar- 
lingion, Ne greet. 

Arkansas. John FiTartV Saline. George w 
Rogers, Arkad'elphia/ C, B. Landers", Union'). H. 
J. M. C. Roberisoh'. Foster's, John Honeaj Ozark. 

Missouri. John P McDowell, New Market. 

Illinois. John Msbury, Lick Creek. 

Indianai w'ilsnn Conliar, Cohtntbia,' 

Oiii(f. John B. \loses, German/oh. 

Kentucky. Levi B. r\unt,Mancfie*f'er. Wash- 
ngton Watts, Co'-ne/iusvil/e. Levi Lancaster, 
Canton. Skelton Renfro, Cumber/and Ford. 
Tandy James, Somerset, Isaac Horn, R^dme. 

Virginia. \la(\o\ phRorer, Rerger's Store. Wm. 
w. West, Whaitley VVillfam Biirris", Davis 1 
Mills, Jesse Lankford. Bowers's, Elijah llans- 
brou«jh Sdm'ervi/le. A. Rbrer', Edgehill James B. 
Collins,' Burnt (^liimrieys Thomas' Flippen, 
huure\ Grove. Thomas w, Walton, Pleasant Gap. 
Levi Bishop, Sinclair's Bottom. 

Pennsylvania. Heze|iiah vVes"U S^outh Hill. 
Joseph Hughes, Gum Tree. 

NewYork. Gilbert Beebe, New Vernon. 

Iowa Territorv. Z"iccheusParker',7bu;aC«7y. 


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V0L. II. 



Mo. 2, 



Bedford county,. Va. 


•< if,'/,.', %;lf^I845 
Dear Brethren; I have had it on my 
mind for some time to write a little piece 
for the , Primitive, to, let the brethren 
know what sort of people are in this sec- 
tion of country. There are a few amongst 
us* who are called Old School, or Predesti- 
narian Baptists, who receive the scoffs and 
frowns ,n©t only of the world, but of a 
multitude of professors, and some of whom 
call themselves Baptists; who have been 
asserting that there are no other people 
in the world who believe, as we do', and 
prophecying that we would shortly dwin- 
dle and dwindle away, until we Would 
come to nothing. Perhaps you would be 
glad to know how we distinguish our-/ 
selves from them, seeing we are all called 
Baptists. To tell you all the particulars it 
would fill ,a volume, so we shall name only 
some of the most^promiiient things. 

In the first place, I would .say according 
to the Baptist history of Virginia, and , 
what the old- church record, and what our 
ancient brethren tell us, that nothing was 
connected with the church in any shape or' 
form of what are now called benevolent 
institutions. No, the grace of our Lord 
Jesus Christ and his fame was amply suffi- 
cient to recommend his church and people 
to" a world of wicked and rebellious sons 

and daughters of Adam. But ! fear it is 
not so now in the estimation of many; for 
T feaT that earth-borrowed titles have gain- 
ed a high place in our day and time. 

Oil r ancient brethren tell us that no' doc- 
trine was received that w T as not in accord- 
ance with the word of God,' and the saint* 
received the word of God . as containing" 
the whole duty or man. But our modern 
teachers tell us, that there are thousands of 
duties enjoined upon man that ar,e not 
couched in the scriptures. They also tell 
us that the doctrine of election and predes- 
filiation is scripture, but it is unrevealed/ 
therefore vy.e should have nothing to do 
with it. What does this imply? Simply 
this, that poor frail man is charging the 
creator with leaving thousands of the 
duties of man out of the scripture, and put- 
ting in a doctrine that was not to be ob- 
served, or that was, dangerous.. Wha.t 
presumption! when the word of God tells 
us, that all scripture is given by inspira- 
tion of God, and is profitable for doctrine,' 
for reproof, for correction, for instruction 
in righteousness; that the man of God 
may be perfect, thoroughly furnished un- 
to all good works. 

I need only to say, try those spirits — 
as it regards election and predestination,' 
Paul charged his son Timothy in the gos- 
pel: Be not then therefore ashamed of the 
testimony of our Lord, nor of me his pris- 
oner; but be thou partaker of the afflic- 
tions of the gospel, according to the power 
of God, who hath saved us and called us 
with an holy calling; riot accordingtio our 



works, Dot according to his Own purpose 
and grace, which was given us in Christ 
Jesus before the world began. Now in 
violation of the above scripture, and many 
others equally plain, we are taught by Our 
modern teachers that Jesus has paid the 
penalty of the law by his sufferings and 
death for all Adam's posterity; and salva- 
tion is offered in the gospel to all, and all 
have the power to accept or refuse; or, in 
other words, all are free agents. Making 
the refusal their condemnation^ and their 
acceptance their salvation; which certainly 
would be according to the work they do. 

They also teach us that the support of 
the ministry is founded upon the principle 
of debt, and not of charity; therefore they 
agree with the church for a certain price 
and for a certain term; therefore where the 
best price can be obtained they can get 
preaching, while the poor are neglecled. 
They also tell us, that if we will give 
them money enough they will evangelize 
the world. They also tell us, that none 
but a learned ministry are competent to 
serve the churches. 

Having given you but a small sketch of 
some who are called Baptistg in this sec- 
tion, who are making proselytes by thou- 
sands, we shall also try to give you a 
short account of some who are called anti- 
nomians, iron jackets, hard shells, and 
many other things. Of this character 
there are not a great many, which we are 
willing to admit; but a small church here 
and there over this section of country, 
who I believe will feed upon nothing but 
the pure milk of the word, who will not 
listen to the lo here and lo there, who will 
not be governed by any thing that has 
neither commandment, precept, or exam- 
ple in God's word, who believe that God's 
word contains the whole duty of man, who 
believe there is nothing in God's word 
that is dangerous, who believe that the 
church needs no earth-borrowed titles to 
recommend her to the world, who believe 
not in a learned ministry only, who be- 
lieve that the support of the ministry is 
not founded upon the principle of debt, 
who believe that Christ Jesus by his suf- 

ferings and death redeemed all that Gdd 
hath from the beginning chosen unto sal- 
vation through sanctification of the spirit 
and belief of the truth, and all who shall be 
heirs of salvation down to the latest gene- 
ration; who believe that Jestts did not re a 
deem that sinner who is now in hell reap- 
ing his just reward, who believe that none 
of Adam's posterity are free agents, that 
they ar*e all justly condemned, therefore 
the condemned received no injustice from 
God by the vessels of his mercy being s&- 

I have only touched on a few of the 
most particular traits characterizing two 
sorts of people called Baptists, the Writer" 
professing to be one of the latter. Dear 
brethren, 1 submit what I have written to 
your consideration, hoping if you see any 
thing defective, or that is not in accord* 
ante with God's word, lay it aside. May 
grace, mercy, and peace abound with alt 
God's people, h the prayef of your un- 
worthy brother in Christ. 



Plaitvil/e. Wisconsin Ter. > 
Dec. 25lh, 1845. > 
Dear buethbeh is the Lord: 1 take the 
present opportunity of writing a few lines 
lo you, which you may dispose of as you 
think proper, 1 am not a subscriber for 
your paper, though much pleased with the 
doctrine thai is generally therein contain- 
ed. Indeed, if I know any thing of the 
truth ot God, as revealed in his word, and 
as taught by the Spirit, the writers are con- 
lending for that truth. That there should 
be any human production free from error, 
we cannot expect; and I am aware that the 
writers of the Primitive are sensible of this 
truth, and are willing to confess the same. 
Yet 1 consider that the paper contains in 
general the truth of the scriptures. 

An important inquiry was once made by 
an individual of some note, what is truth? 
This inquiry is just as important now as it 
ever was, and 1 consider it always was a 

PMMI'1 IVI£ fe'AP'PteT. 


very Important inquiry, however ignorant that t he end of his death, and the con 

the inquirer may have been of the li nth of 
God, religiously; for it is a truth, accord- 
ing to the apostles' doctrine, that if the 
prince* of this world had known Jesus, 
they would not have crucified the Lord of 
glory; consequently their eyes were not 
permitted to behold his glory, in order 
that the purpose of God concerning human 
redemption might be completed. 

It is a truth that thete was a majority for 
his death, for it is through him, and him 
Only, that sinners of Adam's race can live 
eternally. He died for our offences, and 
rose for our justification; for if it was need- 
ful that Jesus .should be crucified for us, 
atid he taught that it was. needful, was 
there not a necessity that 'he time should 
be determined also in relation to the mat- 
ter? Jesus taught that they could not lake 
him until that same hou r . lie knew the 
time and began to feel the awful agonies, 
and miseries, he should experience in suf- 
fering for his people's sins. It pleased the 
Father to bruise him, the chastisement of 
our peace was upon him, and with his 
snipes we are healed. If the time was ap- 
pointed, I ask, is it not reasonable for us to 
sup|MJse, the place was also appointed where 
the most important event 'should take place 
that ever did take place. The crucifixion 
of our Lord was the most important event 
that ever occurred since the creation. The 
Messiah himself said thit a prophet should 
not perish out of Jerusalem. 

If it was needful that the death of Christ, 
and time and place of Christ's death, were 
all determined, is it not reasonable for us 
to suppose, that the individuals that should 
be employed in the act of crucifixion 
should also be determined; for he was ta- 
ken by wicked hands and crucified and 
slain, according to God's determinate coun- 
sel and foreknowledge. Doubtless the ve- 
ry hands employed in the dreadful deed 
were thereunto appointed. 

And last but not least, if all the forego- 
ing events were predestinated of God, does 
it not appear reasonable for us to suppose 

quences growing out of the same, are all 
predestinated also. For instance it is said, 
ihose that were far off are made nigh by 
t 1 e blood of Christ. If then the blood of 
Christ was shed to bring sinners nigh to 
God, was it determined when his blood 
was shed how many sinners should be 
brought to God by his blood, and also what 
sinners in particular should be made nigh 
by his blood. Chosen in Christ before the 
world began; saved also, so far as cove- 
nant ma'ters were concerned. For I un- 
dei stand what Jesus finished on the cross, 
on the hill Calvary, he had engaged to do 
before the world begin. And just so long 
as Jesus stood surety for the performance of 
things in the holy covenant of peace, so 
lonj» has the salvation of his people been 
complete in him, even before they had an 
actual standing in Adam. Though it was 
according to God's will that the children 
should be made partakers of flesh and 
blood, Jesus also himself took part of the 
same, that he by means of death might 
destroy him w ho had the power of death, 
which is the devil. So it appears they 
must all become children of the flesh by 
natural birth, and also adopted children by 
a spiritual birth. Not that, they are made 
the children of God by spiritual birth, but 
they are adopted by the Spirit; and that 
because they are sons, according to the 

Now, Sir, when any son} is born of God 
we know he was one of God's sons; he is 
made nigh by the blood of Jesus, he is a 
predestinated son of God, and as such is 
brought to a knowledge o[ his sonship. 
When we were bom of the Spirit, and had 
the love of God shed abroad in our hearts 
by the Holy Ghost, it was something new 
to us; but doubtless not to God, who dealt 
graciously with us, and revealed his Son 
in us, and brought us to rejoice in bis salva- 
tion. Does Jehovah do in time what he 
eternally intended to do, or are there new 
determinations ariting in his mind daily? 
He is of one mind, and none can turn him. 



This places every ftyng Upon the founds 
tpfon of God, which is Cnrist: and the foun 
dation of God st.3nd.eifl fore, hiving this 
sear, the Lord knnweth ihem that are his. 

I ask, brethren, are these things true? it 
so, tin n there ts something consoling in 
the religion of Jesus; for G'od \s unchange- 
able, and "horn he loves,' he loves unto the 
end. What grace undertakes it will also 
complete Grace reigns a sovereign, and 
grace in the end will hiing us to heaven, 
to prai>e him for his great deliverance; 
there to sing ledemption through Jesus' 
blood forever, according to the poet': — 

Sweet to reflnct how giace divine, 

My »ios oh Jesus laid; 
Sweet to remember thai his blood 

My debt of suffering paid. 

sweet in his righteousness to stand, 
Which savi's from' second death; 

SV,eei to experience day b\ day 
His Spirit Vquickeriirrg breath. 

Sweet in the confidence of faiih. 

To trust his firm decrees; 
Sweet to be passive iVi' his hands, 

A,w) know no will ftut his. 

rlf such the sweetness of the stream, 

Vv hat must the fountain be. 
Wht re saints & angels draw their breath. 

Immediately from thee. 

brethren in the Lord, pray for your un- 
worthy servant. P. SJiLTZMJiN. 


This member of Zion, to wit. ihe Canoo- 
rhie Association, look its birth in Wash- 
ington county, at Limestone meeting house, 
(la. in the year of our Lord, 1829, on Sat- 
urday before the fourth Sunday in Septem- 
ber. The brethren assembled and chose 
Jordan Smith, Chaiiman. and Aaron Ad- 
kins, Clerk. Twenty messengers had 
their names enrolled, then gave our- 
selves to each other |o keep house for the 
Lord, and to he-called the United Haptisl 
Conference or Association. And at our next 
meeting we lost the name Conlerence and 
had the name the Canoochie Association. 
There were then ten churches-, but if all 

the churches had been represented, there* 
would have been thirty five' this year. 


t. 'his Association shall, if they think 
proper, meet annually as an advisory coun- 
cil, and he composed of messengers frdrii 
the different churches"; 

2 EaeM chiirch to have two messenger* 
and no more, and their names inserted in" 
their Tetters. 

3. This Association! shall have power id 
make rules to govern itself while in ses- 
sion, but none of its rules shall be binding, 
rfn ifte churches, for they a're free and 
ought to be so. 

4. It "shall be the duty of this Associa- 
tion! to* give advice in cases of difficultr; 
and to keep up union in the churches and 
arrange general meetings. 

5. This Association shall admit ahjr 
church or churches in order — wishing td 
withdraw from this Association, they may 
at discretion; or on application, may hart' 
a letter of commendation. 

6. And as the love of money is the root 
of all evil, and has produced so much dis- 
tress in church and Stafe, saints Shd sin- 
ners, we desire to live iii peace; therefore 
this Association shall not engage in, nor 
any wise encourage any religious specula- 
tion, called missionary or by other names,- 
under the pretence of supporting the gos- 

7. We the (ihurches composing thfr As- 
sociation, believing the Hook of the O^tl 
and New Testaments are the word of G'OdV 
declare that we lake the New 'fesfameTfl 
for the rule of our faith and' practice," for 
we are not under the law but' under grace. 

Jour dan Smith, John? Sbrber, 
Samuel B. Tarver, Joseph Hegins, 
James Moore,. William Grover, 

Jesse Col/ins-;. Curtis Cobb, 

John h'ures. La ban Hargrovt, 

Thomas Green, Joshua Rountree, 
William Durden, Henry, firown, 
Joseph Brant/y, John Clifton, 
Hardy Jbhuson, John S. Kir kl and, 
Ely Fetes, Robert Donaldson. 



Therefore vye desire lp let pur Primitive 
brethren and sister*, them hearts of love, 
join with us in all the paths of tine heart- 
felt Jove. We have long heard and f.'li 
y pp. r cases, though never seeing your fa 
pes 1 would tell my brother Tillery to 
atand near my master's magazine, and fill 
your quiver" with arrows from (he almigh- 
ty Jesus' hand. I wag [interrupted in the 
pu'pU on the day of the PresMential elec 
tion. I gave the ppople to understand, 
^hal, 'he election o£ grace was as suiely de 
pid.?d in the council of grace. Oju- among*! 
^he crowd answered, the Methodists be 
lieyed in eternal and particular election. as 
the Baptists; I hat God the Father electeo Son before l^he fuundation of the world. 
$nd, his people in him [.asked hjm if the 
Methodists did all beli«ve so? lie said 
^hey did. I, staged,, by works f<jiJLh was 
made perfect,, to sjiow his faith by works. 
^e stated^ t.hat they bejieved baptism by 
^mmersion wa$. right. 

The missionaries ha,ve nottpr,rflente f d us 
but very litfle thi£ year,, »pd if you give 
them no money they will go and complain 
Jp their mother, the bald faced harlpi. 
To hire mules to borrov^ tqols^ 
To make the rules for Sunday schools, 
And the works of the mission 
In every cop^iljon. 
When Saul lived in Tarsus. asl,dp suppose, 
£j»e we"** 10 Gamaliel to gei a wax nose; 
That hemght turn this way and Ihen iwist 

it thai, 
Like our rni^tpnary preacher/ to lau^h 

and be fat. '**' 

Hut God in his wisdom vyjll break their 

false rules, 
A^mj will show to ihjj. world ij^at its wise 

men are fools; 
For | feel as determined as forty \ ears past. 
To spend & be spent iipm the fi/st "to the last. 
And sure I have trials bothsJiarp& severe. 
They make me feel c.hea.p for to Christ I 

was dear. 
What shall I not render to 'esu,s. my Lord, 
for the light of his spirit in his' blessed 

Q let me rejoice in salvation so free, 
All glory lo Jesus for he has loved me 

Dec, 1845. 


Of the fifteenth annual session of the 

Contentnea Baptist Association, held 

at Nahunta m. //.., Wayne county, N. 

C, on the 24th, 25th, and 26/A days 

of October, 1S45. 

FRIDAY. October 24. 

Pursuant to, adjournment from last year, 
E-lder Ichabod Moore preached the Intro- 
ductory Sermon, from 1st general epistle 
of Peter, 5 c, and 2nd, 3rd, and 4th ver- 
ges: ''Feed the flock of God which is 
among you, taking the oversight thereof, 
not by constraint, but willingly; nut for 
filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; — neither 
as being lords over God's heritage, but 
being ensamples to the flock. And when 
the chief shepherd shall appear, ye shall: 
receive a crown ot glory that fadeth not 

The delegates met together, and the 
Association was opened by prayer; af- 
ter which, they chose Elder Benjamin^ 
Bynum, Moderator; and Ichabod Moore, 
Clerk; and Jesse C. Knight, Assistant 
Clerk. Chose hrethr^i Wright Smitl}aud. 
Allen W. Wooten, a Committee on Fi- 

Corresponding ministers and me3sen. s 
•gers from sister Associations were invited 
tp take seats with us; when brethren Win. 
Hyman, John H : . Daniel and John Bryaji, 
from ICehukee, took seats with us and 
handed in a letter with a file of their Min- 
utes; also, from White Oak, brethren Josi- 
ah Smith and- Samuel Holt, with a letter 
and a file of their Minutes; also, from Lit- 
tle. River, brethren John Canaday and 
Jfames Wilson, with a file of their Min- 
uses: also, brother Parham Pucket handed 
in a file of Minutes froin Abbott's Creek 
Union, of last year. Brother Wilder also 
handed in a file of Minutes from the Coun- 
try Line Association, and. one from the 
Abbott's Creek Union. The above na- 
med brethren were gladly received, and 
topk seats with us. 

The letters from the churches were call- 
ed for, and their contents inserted in the. 
following taule-, 



1 9"! s= 

tes fe 

>j b 


Names of Churches, and 

i-§ 5 


3. P-r 3* !! 

counties wherein 


1 a, *£ 







1 ^ = 

Autrey's Cieek, Edgecombe, 

John K Moore, Stephen Wooten,* 


Beaver Dam. Lenoir, 

Parhaui Pucket L Williams, J Heath,* ! 2 



Black Creek, Wuyne, 

Wm Bass,* I.insy Hell, Isham Lamb,* 



Hancock's, Pitt, 

John Smith, Wm Mum ford, L Griffin,* 


Meadow, Greene, 

Benj Bynmn, Wm Williams, Willie Jones,. 3 


Memorial, Wuyne, 

Wash'n Hooks, W Holland, Wright Bass, 2 


Nahunta, Wayne, 

Leonard Pale. Shadrach Pate, W Taylor, i 4 





Newport Chapel, Wayne, 

Saunders P Cox. WmR .use, Thomas Price,: 3 



Pleasant Hill, Edgecombe, 

V\ m Pearee.* Klzy Taylor,* Jacob Proctor, 



Pleasant Plains, Wayne, 

Wright Smith, 


Red Banks, Pitt, 

JamesGrilTtn,* Geo McGownds,* A Stocks, i 3 


Naridy Bottom, Lenoir, 

J R Cronm, A W Wooten, Richard Rouse, 


Tison's, Pitt, 

Samuel Moore. B Briley, Benjamin Corey, *i 



Toisnot, Edgecombe, 

WmWoodard,* W Rountree,* L Dew,* 



Town Creek, Edgecombe, 

Jesse C Knight, Th Dupree,* WL Fleming. 


Union, Edgecombe, 

J H Armstrong, N Taylor,* Elv Rohhins, 




White Oak, Edgecombe, 

Ichabod Muore, VV M Stanton,* JBWoodardJ 1 



Friendship, Wayne, 

Jas R Parker, Jacob Herriuj, Benj Herring, 1 


'Absent. ; — 









Called for petitionary letters. One was 
handed in from the church at Friendship, 
and after examination she was found to be 
of our faith and order, and was recei- 
ved a member in our body, by the Mode- 
rator giving her delegates the right hand 
of fellowship. 

The Committee on Finance reported — 

Balance in hand last year, 
Paid Ichabod Moore for transcri- 
bing. superintending and dis 
tributing last year's Minutes, 
Paid for printing ihese Minutes, 


_ ID 

Balance in the hands of (he Treasurer, $1 2 

Circular letter called for. None pre- 

Appointed our next Association to be 
held with the church at Autrey's Creek, 
Edgecombe county, N. C, to commence 
Friday before the fourth Lord's day in 
October, 1846, at 11 o'clock, A. M., bro- 
ther Parham Pucket to preach the Intro- 
ductory Sermon, and if he fail, brother 
John Smith. 

Then adjourned till to-morrow 10 o'- 

SATURDAY, October 25. 

Met pursuant to adjournment from yes- 
terday, and after prayer and praise, appoin- 
ted our delegates to sister Associations, as 

follows: to Kchukee, brethren Ichabod 
Moore, Jesse C. Knight, John Smith, Ja- 
5 cob Proctor, Wright Smith, Willis L. 
i Fleming, and Parham Pucket; to Country 
| Line and Abbot's Creek Union, Benjamin 
: Bynum, John Smith and Parham Pucket; 
■ to the Little River, Jacob Herring, John 
I Smith, Shadrach Pate, Parham Pucket 
and John R. Moore; to White Oak, Ben- 
jamin Bynum, John Smith, Shadrach 
Pate, John R. Moore, Washington M. 
Stanton and Wright Smith. 

Appointed brother Benjamin Bynum, 
to write a Circular Letter to be printed 
with our next Minutes. 

Called the list and noted the absentees 
thus *. 

A question arose in the Association, 
from the letter from the church at Plea- 
sant Plains; and alter some preliminary 
remarks, it was reduced to a query in the 
following manner: Is it right to give to 
other denominations the appellation of 
brother and sister, or what advice will iho. 
I Association give? Answer. Not right, 
and we advise the brethren and sisters lo 
quit the practice. 

Called for Corresponding Letters from 
sister Associations, when the delegates 
from Kehukee handed in their letter, 
which was read and received; also, the 



delegates from While Oak handed in their 
letter, which was read and received. 

Appointed ministers to preach ta- mor- 
row: brethren Wm. Hyman, Wilder and 
Josiah Smith. Worship to. commence aV 
10 o'clock. 

Appointed brother Ichahod Moore our 
Treasurer, and instructed him to have 400 
copies of these Minutes printed, and to, 
distribute them as usual; also to transcribe 
and superintend the printing the same. 

The Minutes were read and assigned by 
the Moderator and Clerk. Then adjourn- 
ed to. time and pkee above named. 



Met at the stage at 10 oNjlack. Elder 

Wm. Hymau introduced the worshipof the 

day from 2nd Timothy, 2nd c. and 15th, 

V.: "Study to shew thyself approved unto 

ber, to hear of so many able ministers of 
the New Testament; not of the letter, but 
of the spirit. 

Dear brethren and sisters, if ever there 
was a tijine thjit the servants of the Most 
High God should declare the whole coun- 
sel of God, U is. now. U is a distressing 
time with ua a 1 'h.' s time, our Association 
and churches dividing on the missionary 
question ami principles. The Washington 
Association at their last annual meeting at 
Glade Hollow church, which met the 2nd 
Friday in September, IS45, dropped cor- 
respondence with Associations that had be- 
come missionary Associations, being a 
large majority of" the delegates, of the old 
Primitive Baptist order And those dele- 
gates that were in favor of the money-ma- 
king and; all the schemes and inventions of 
men. rent off and left the house in disor- 
der, and went to Russell Court House, and 
formed, themselves in Convention, and ap- 

Qod» a workman that needeth, not to lie. I 
shamed, rightly dividing the. word pf P oinle< * a invention »<■ Castleswood's 
truth- Elder Wilder followed f rojn I chgrch, Ruasell county, Va., in May next, 
Psalms, 31 c. and 3 v.: 'Trust in thej'° tr > to forma missionary Association. 
Lord, and do good: so, shall thou dwell in j We s °y ,et tnem g°. for ,ne >' ha ve ilje 

the land, and verily thou shalt be fed." 
Elder Josiah Smjth followed from. Psalms, 
33 c. and 12 v.: "Blessed is the nation 
whose God is the Lord; and the people 
whom he hath chosen, for his awn inherit- 
ance. We hope the Lord will add a bless- 
ing to the word preached through the 
round of this meeting; and may it have 
been, as seed fallen into good ground that 
may bring forth fruit some thirty, some 
sixty, & some an hundred fold; & may the 
Lord preserve us and keep us unto his hea- 
venly kingdom for Chrises sake. Amen,. 


Sinclair's Ba//a?n, Smyfih co Va. ] 
Jan. 15, 1846. \ 
Dear Brethren: I have been reading 
your valuable paper for some time, and it 
seems to be a great consolation to me, and 
also to my good brethren of the Primitive 
faith, that live in the bounds of the Wash- 
ington Association, of which I am a mem- 

spirit of monarchy, and do not preach the 
gospel of the Son, of God, and make Ijcs 
their refuge. 

Dear brethren, t know ram hut a poo? 
imperfect being at best, but 1 think I can 
say with Paul, Romans, 1st ch. 16 ver. : I 
am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, lor 
it is the power of God unto salvation. See- 
ing then, brethion, that we have such hope 
we use great plainness of speech. 2nd ( o- 
rinthians, 3. chapter,, 12 verse. 

Pei haps I may write again, and transmit 
to you one of the Minutes of our Associa- 
tion and state of the churches. Elder. 'as. 
Osbourn of the city of Baltimore, wrote to 
me that he had a desire to visit this part of 
the country. 1 wrote in answer to his re- 
quest, but have not received a communi- 
cation from him since. We have great de- 
sire that he could visit the churches ra 
Western Virginia. 

Your unworthy brother. 





called according lo his purpose. Then, 
brtthren, do not feai ; if you are called ac 
cording lo ihe purpose of God, it will go 
well wiih you. Hut 0, Arminian, or you 
who say you were railed according to your 
will or your psirpose, here you, my friend. 

Agents and subscribers purposing to re- 
mit u* money through their Postmaster, 

are informed that it is necessary for him to j ( j e ny the purpose of ' God, no matter who 
notify the Postmaster here of his having | y0l) are or wh;lt you c .,jj y ,, Me lf. I s;iy 
given the receipt, as well as for the receipt j t0 vou? ,hat God has' not promised that all 
fo be forwarded to us. Several omi-siuns thi'ixgVshal.l work together for good lo you. 

of this kind have recently occurred 

• « . * '■■ i . - i 

Piltsi/Zvanio county, fy'.a 
' ' Dec. \2lh. 1S45\ 

Brethren and S^ters ok the Old 
Baptist order: Grace, mercy and peace 
be multiplied unto you from your Father, 
who art in heaven, who rules and super- 
rules all things in heaven and on ear ih. He 
is God, and besides him there is none who 
is worth the worship of mortal men, or that 
can benefit them one copper. 

Then, dearly beloved,' let us the chil- 
dren worship this God with all the sinceri- 
ty of our hearts, and, thank him lor all the 
sincerity of our hearts; for he is the giver 
of every good gift, hence he gives the sin- 
cere hear£- '{"hen, brethren, let us pray 
him for more and more of his work, on or 
in our hearts; for it is by the renovating 
influence of the Holy Ghost that our hearts 
•re made sincere in the worship of this 
eternal and everlasting Lord pod of hea- 
ven and earth, who works and none can in jp«jf< an(| in ,r " ,h - This Go( ! is our . 
hinder; who works all, not part.' but all &>& ¥$ wil1 he °, ,,r ? ni ( lle ^ven unto 
things after the counsel of his own will', .death. Now, brethren," this God is our 
Set Ephesians, I ch 11 verse. "Here, | Gocl > not every Kody's God^ no, but ours, 
brethren" and 'sisters, you see this God j who are ^; e calle ' 1 wording to his own 
works' all things after his own will; whe- purpose. Those are the people that the 

You ask wh_> ? Because you say you are 
called according to your own will or pur- 
pose, and the promise is to them who are 
ihe called according to God's own purpose. 
Hence you, my readers, can see, that this 
promise does not reach one Arminian or 
free wilier. 

Then I will say wiih Paul, Who arl 
thou, man, that repl est against God? O, 
brethren, let us pray thai this eternal God 
wotdd draw the,m from this delusion, if it 
can be in accordance with hi." holy will; 
fur I believe the work is his. and the power 
is his. 'I hen, hrethren, we will do well lo 
submit all unto him who works and nonn 
can hinder, or who works all things after 
his own will; for he is God and will be 
that same God for ever and ever, and rules 
in heaven, hell, and on earth Then h,e is 
the eternal, everlasting, all wise, and un- 
changing God. Dear brethren and si«ters. 

this God is the God that can make our 
hearts submissive to his will, and make 
them desire the worship of God, and 'hat 


ther we think it for good or evil io us, we 
must submit to God ami say. Blessed and 
holy art thou, God, ju»t and tight are all 
thy ways. 

And remember, brethren, that this «ame 
God has said, all, not pari; no, hut all 
things sha|l, not may if this or so is done; 
no, but all things shall work together fur- 
good to them that love God, and are the 

Psalmist was alluding lo. or the church: for 
he savs, this God is our God, or the 
church's God; for that is what he meant by 
our God. or the church's God. 

Then God will be our or the church's 
guide even unto death, hence he God will 
guide them al| the same way. Then there 
will he no falling from, as some vain- 
ly say; no, he will guide them safe to hea- 



ven, so none will be ,lost. And he will 
guide them all the same way, and then 
they will all believe with .the apostle and 
My, one Lord, one faith, and one bap 
tism. They will be like l?auj, when 
he says', the church should be of one mind 
and of one judgment, and see eye to eye, 
and speak the same thing Then, my rea- 
ders, one did not say sprinkle; and, ano- 
ther, pour; and a .third say, immerse; 
then they all spoke the same thing, and 
there were no dissensions among them; 
and so is the church of Christ yet. 

Dear brethren and sisters in Christ, £ 
have written you a short letter after my im 
perfect manner; but it has been some time 
•ince I have troubled you with my wri- 
tings; but it was not because I did not 
think of vou, but because I have been very 
busy, and my mind much employed con 
cerning the afl.iirs of this life, as I am one 
that works for my living here. But I 
hope to let vou hear from me again before 
long, if God please, as I wish to hear from 
the brethren. 

W ! I . ' I > 

Dear brethren, write; and sisters, write. 
Where is old brother Tillery? I should 

like to hear from him sometimes. Noth- 

i . ' i ' * * 

ing more at present, but as ever your un- 
worthy brother in the Redeemer of sin- 
ners. Sp farewelj. brethren. 


from the western Predestinarian Baptist, 


Tfht messengers composing the Two Ri 
ver Old School Ruptist jissocuition, to 
the Churches they represent, send 

Dear Brethren: By the indulgence 
of an allwise God, we h ive been once more 
permitted to meet together and hold social 
intercourse, in an associated capacity. We 
were gratified to learn from your letters 
and messengers that harmony and brother- 
ly love (that bright evidence of the new 
birth,) prevails in a good degree amongst 
you. And, agrceabfy to former custom, 

we present you with this, our annual epis- 
tle, in which we set forth some of the cha- 
racteristics of man in his fallen state, toge- 
ther wiih the great love which has been 
manifested towards him in the provision 
.that has been made to redeem and save him 
from his lost and ruined condition. That 
man is a sinner none will dare gainsay. 
But that he is totally depraved, dead in 
trespasses and sins, some have had, and 
still have, the effrontery to deny. In the 
works of grace, as we. I as those of creation 
and providence, the great first cause and 
upholder of all things shjgws himself to be 
a God of purpose, in opposition to the no- 
lion of those who can only regard him at a 
God of means. Hath he said, and shall he 
not do? He sneaks and it stands fast. 

lr' fir* .|j,|[ , 

The word of God, together with obser- 
vation and experience, all bear testimony 
of the deplorably condition of man in hit. 
fallen state, which renders hjm entirely in- 
capable of loving and adoring the great au- 
thor of his existence, and the supporter 
and suslainer of his life. His love hat 
been turned into hatred; he js in possession 
of a mind which is only evil, and that con- 
tinual enmity against God, not subject to 
his law, neither indeed can be- So far 
from loving God, he is worldly, sensual, 
and devilish; hateful, and hating one ano- 
ther; running astray frorn God; speaking 
lies; wholly disinclined to nbey God, or 
have the great king of Zion to reign over 
him. It is said their tjiroat is an open se- 
pulchre; with their tongues they have used 
deceit; the poison of asps is under their 
lips, whose mouth is full of cursing and 
bitterness; their feet are swift to shed 
blood, destruction and nii?ery are in their 
ways, and the way of peace they have not 
Brethren, these passages are a few of the 
many that speak of the awful comli'ion and 
depravity of man, since the fall; to the 
truth of which every renewed soul can 
testify. Now, says Paul, we know that 
what things soever the law saith, it saith 
to them who are under the iaw, that eTerj 



mouth may be stopped and all the world 
may become guilt)' before God. Under 
these circumstances, therefore, we may 
ask, how can we escape the damnation of 
hell? There is no possible way, only 
through the interposition of another,, 
whose sacrifice is suitably adapted to the 
case, and is found to be commensurate 
with all the demands of the law a»d jus-. 
tice of that being who cannot look upon sin 
with the least degree of allowance.. This 
character can only be found in the- God 
manifest in the flesh,, who was delivered, 
(not by accident or chance,) by the deter- 
minate counsel and foreknowledge of God, 
was taken by wicked hands and crucified 
and slain. . To speak of this sacrifice as 
being only thought of after the fall, is to 
charge God foolishly, and to directly con- 
tradict a large portion of scripture on this 
subject. How could God have chosen us 
in him before the foundation of the world, 
and have given us grace in him before the 
world was, if he had no existence? The 
preparing of him a body, and his manifest- 
ing himself in the flesh, was only a devel- 
opment of that which existed from ever- 
lasting. Before man was formed out of 
the dust of the earth, all things were made 
by him, and without him was not anything 
made that was made; and no sooner than 
man had disobeyed and fallen from his 
original rectitude than do we hear tell of 
him tinder the character of the seed of 
woman. That the Almighty is a God of 
purpose, and one whose covenants and 
promises are sure, the scriptures abun- 
dantly testify, and he has promised his 
Son that when his soul was made an offer- 
ing for sin, he should see his seed, he 
should prolong his clays, and the pleasure 
of the Lord should prosper in his hands; 
that he should see of the travel of his soul 
and be satisfied. Brethren, how can this 
stipulation be fulfilled, if after all the suf- 
ferings he has borne, one single individu- 
al, for whom he groaned and died, should 
be lost, and suffer the pains of eternal bur- 

But is it true that there is nothing defi- 
nite in the object and extent of the atone- 

ment, and that Christ died only for sin in 
the abstract, and barely made it possible' 
for the siuner to save himself? If so., how 
are we to understand such passages as 
these: 'His name shall be called Jesus, for 
he shaM save his people from their sin/ 
and 'blessed be the Lord God of Israel,, 
for he hath visited and redeemed his pe©r 
pie, and raised up unto us an heir of sal- 
vation in the house of his servant David/ 
and that 'he died for our sins, and rose : 
again for our jt^$cafei$*u* and", as Paul 
says, 'he loved me and gave himself for 
me?' What were the circumstances under 
which we were placed by sin?. Were we 
not taw subjects, and as such condemned;,, 
to all intents and purposes, to an awful 
hell? And from what have we been re- 
deemed',, but from that awful curse? A*. 
the apostle said, 'he hath redeemed us froa* 
the curse of the law, being: made a curse 
for us, for as it is. written cursed is. every- 
one that hangeth on a tree/ 

Has the justice of God then reaped" a 
complete satisfaction in the wounds that 
have been inflicted on his dear Son, who, 
was pursued unto the ignominious death of 
the cross? and does he still hold the same- 
demand against the sinner, who is a com- 
plete bankrupt? If so, where is the jus.-* 
tice in the case? and if our sins were not 
imputed to him, how could he have borne 
our sins, and carried our sorrows? how 
was 'he who knew no sin, made sin for 
us?' How did he suffer, the just for the 
unjust? Why did he agonize in the gar- 
den until he sweat as it were, 'great drops 
of blood, falling down to the ground?' 
Was this real, or imaginary? Destroy the 
doctrine o.f speciality, and it was only im- 
aginary, for there was nothing to press him 
into such agony. Did he by those suffer- 
ings, cause that the hand writing of ordi- 
nances which were against us should be 
blotted out, having them nailed to his 
cross? Is it true that by his stripes we 
are healed? Did he as the high priest of 
our profession, enter into the holy place 
once for ell, having obtained eternal re- 
demption for us? and h«s he who has gra- 
ven the people on the palms of his hands 



by one offering, forfeited forever those 
who are sanctified, or set apart? If so, 
then follows, as a matter of course, that 
God will be merciful to their unrighteous- 
ness, and their sins and iniquities will he 
remember against them no more? If these 
passages, (and they being only a few that 
might be introduced,) so fully sustain the 
idea that the whole plan of redemption 
has been laid in wisdom, and carried on 
according to the purpose of Him who 
worketh all things after the counsel of his 
own will, how low and mean must he the 
idea that his will and purposes are control- 
led according to the good or bad actions of 
poor worms, who, in their best state, are 
altogether vanity. We read that God 
commendeth his love towards us, (not be- 
cause we were good people,) but in that 
while we were yet sinners Christ died for 
us, and much more, being now justified 
by his blood, we shall he saved from wrath 
through them. We also read that he hated 
some and abhorred others; and surely he 
did not give his Son to die for those he ha- 
ted or abhorred. But he so loved the 
world, that he gave his only begotten Son 
that whosoever believeth on him should 
not perish, but have everlasting life. 

Perhaps all the false notions and inven- 
tions of men that have been gotten up and 
propagated by them for the last eighteen 
years, may be attributed to the want of a 
proper knowledge of themselves, and of 
the atonement that has been made by our 
Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. All Ar- 
minians, of whatever name or sect, are uni- 
ted in the belief that the atonement is gen- 
eral; having accomplished nothing, in part, 
leaving the whole matter to turn on some 
condition to be performed by the crea- 
ture; hence the great exertions made by 
every sect and party to scare and alarm, 
and drive if possible the sinner into the 
performance of their own favorite condi- 
tion, upon which they assure him his sal- 
vation absolutely depends. But how is 
the sinner to arrive at any definite conclu- 
sions? From the Roman Catholic down 
to the Mormon, they all differ as to what 
the condition to be performed is, while 

they all evidently worship, not an indepen- 
dent but a dependent being, who is entire- 
ly dependent on poor blind mortals to 
move in the great work of doing some- 
thing good,, in order that he may save 

And for this pjrpose all their powers 
are put into full blast, in order to force the 
people into the worship of their calves they 
have set up; and instead of their preach- 
ing the gospel, (here is continual thunder 
from Sinai, and an awful war about hell 
and the damned. But can all this cause 
the sinner to love God? Is not an awful 
abyss daily placed before his eyes? and is 
it not abundantly manifest that the awful 
realities of hell itself could never inspire 
man with a holy reverence or love of God? 
nay, could he be induced to kneel, or to sit 
on the anxious bench all the days of his 
life, or be baptised into the name of the 
Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or walk with 
grains of corn or pebbles in his shoes, for 
the mortification and buffetting of the 
flesh, or submit his body to be crushed by 
the great wheel of Juggernaut, it would ut- 
terly fail to remove enmity or hate, or im- 
plant within him one holy or divine prin- 
ciple, without which, it is impossible to 
see God — for Paul declares that, 'Though 
I had all faith, so that I could run over 
mountains, or zeal which would cause him 
to give his body to the flame, or sympathy, 
so as to give his goods to feed the poor, yet 
without charity he would be nothing more 
than a sounding brass or a tinkling cym- 

So we see that it is not by works of righ- 
teousness which we have done, but accor- 
ding to his mercy; he saves us by the 
washing of regeneration, and the reaewing 
of the Holy Ghost. This is plain and evi- 
dent when we consider our condition in 
nature, being dead in trespasses and sins, 
showing the necessity of being regenera- 
ted and born again, or being made alive 
from the dead. It is written, 'you hath he 
quickened, who were dead in trespasses 
and sins.' And again, "God who is rich 
in mercy, for his great love wherewith he 
loved us, even when we were dead in sins, 



h,atli quickened us together wjth Christ; by 
grace you are saved.' The sinner, in a 
state of nature, is entirely blind; but God, 
>vho qommanded the light to shine, shines 
on h|s heart, giving him the light of the 
knowledge of the glory of God in the face 
of Jesus Christ. The sinner, by nature, 
has a heart, hut he cannot understand. 
pod taketh away the heart of stone, and 
giyeth a heart of flesh,, making the 'new 
man, which, after God, is created in righ 
teousness and true holiness.' In nature, 
he has ears, but he hears net; he is like the 
deaf adder, which harkeneth not to the 

work will perform it until the day of Je- 
sus Christ.' The minister's duty is now 
clear; he is not to undertake to save hirn 
by his prayers, but to point him to the 
Lamb of God, which taketh away the stn$ 
pfthe wqrld— -who is a fountain open to 
the house of David, and to the inhabitants 
of Jerusalem, for all sin and uncleanness. 
Then the sinner may wash and be clean, 
and drink and never die,. 

Thus, brethren, we have [n these, nar- 
row limits given you s,ome scriptural ac- 
counts of the children of men, in their 
helpless conditiqn as sinners, and t,he 

voice of the charmer, charm them neyer goodness and power of God in their reco- 
so wisely. The gospel of the grace of very, hoping that you may have felt the, 
pod, therefore, being to them n.o charmer, I need qf his saving influences, and have, 
phrist is as a root out of dry ground, there fled to refuge. "We exhort you to cleave 
\a i no beauty in him; hence the proclama- unto him as a strong town, vyhere the righ- 
{ion of salvation in his name is unheeded tequs were and are safe. May he continue 
by them, until God unstops their deaf his blessings vy^th you until you are called 
ears, and sets up his kingdom within, to join, the great Association ahoye, where 
which prepares them to listen with atten- parting will be no, more, where the wicked 
{ion. The gospel i;S now good news and cease from troubling, and the weary are a^ 
glad tidings; he is now prepared to setun- rest, is the prayer of your brethren in the, 
der the shadow of the Almighty with Lord. Amen. 

great delight, whilst his fruit is sweet to his. 
taste. — ^e.dic.ine is not administered by 
the physician to a dead patient, but to the 
living. The sinner though laboring under 
a disease, which, if not removed, will final- 
ly destroy both soul and body, feels under 
it still secure; it gives him no special pain 
or uneasiness; sin being hi$ element,, he 
rolls it und,e.r h,is. tongue as a sweet morsel, 
until the great physician, who can kill and 
make aliye, penetrates the dark chamber,. 
and opens up to the sinner's full view the 
awful sink of sin, the corruption of the 
heart, which is deceitful above all things, 
and desperately wicked. This constrains 
him to smite his hrea,st and ory, 'God be 
merciful to me a sinner.' He now feels 
the need of remedies; he cries, 'Oh Lord, 
1 am oppressed — undertake for me.' He 
needs no protracted meeting to cause his 
conviction to become more pungent, no 
extraordinary exertions need be made by 
professors in order to keep the flame alive, 
or fears entertained that he will not be 
converted, for he that 'beginneth the good 

WM. FUQUA, Moderator. 
H. Louthan, Clerk. 


Jefferson county., Tenijcssee, 
Jun 51 h. 1M6 

Dear Hrktbren and Sisters or the 
Primitive order: I lake ibis importunity \o 
let you know iha.1 I have not forgot yon. 
May grare, peac<-, sm«i mercy dwelj, w'u.b, 
you a 1.1 and with myself,- and family. I 
ought to have written before now and sent 
on my Utile mite lor >;*>ur valuable paper. 
Through hurry of business and waiting to, 
make some arrangement*, I have waited. 
until now. 1 vyanted the declaration of 
non-fellowship, that a church was constitu- 
ted on last July, inGijet-ne county, Ten. by 
the name of i homasson, which I had not 
in possession until now, and I want you 
to give it a place in your paper if you 
think it worthy. 


We do most solemnly declare an unfe^- 


fdWship with the Baptist St;ite Convention. 
Home Missionary Society, the General 
.Association, Abolition Society, thfe' Ten* 
perarice Society; the Hible Society, the 
Sunday School Union, the Tract Society 
and all of their kindred institutions, with 
the Theological school; believing them to 
be contrary (6 the wofd of (J6M a"rid in rli 
feet opposition Id the" p'la'ri of the gospel; 
(hat in God's word is evefv thing that is 
necessary for his church" to' govern them; 
and the » (lies' and la\i* therein con- 
tained, are the only p'rinciples upon which 
believers in Christ can come together in 
6rdef and be a true church of Jesus Christ 
Therefore, we have no church relation, nor 
fellowship with member*, nor churche*. 
th*t belong to any b'f the above named 
So'fie'i res', nor aJny m'e'mrYer, nor church, 
that fs" iri union with those that belong 
1(t Mf of the a'hb've narrfed societies; bclie- 
♦ ihg that tn'e ministers', that are gnftig to 
and fro through our land as agents or 
friends, of those societies,' a're those men 
*!*>»*<! the Scriptures speak of as having frier's 
persons in admii'ati'on for advantage; thai 
rh'ey with a false zeal and benevolence. 
Through deceit draw from the poor and in 
fonts their hard earnings to' lire hp'on, and 
io fare sumptuously every day. We cite 
to' the following Scriptures as reasons for 
t'fce'tfbove declaration. Micah, 3 c. llv. 
Mat. 6c 31,32,33. 34 vs. 10c 7, S vs. 
2 Pet. 2 c. Rev. IS c. 4 V 

Dear brethren, in vol. 10, and No 16. 
arid' page 247, I see piece about liquor. I 
wiM q-iiote a part of it and you can read it 
at leisivre. First, f cannot in conscience 
make riOr" sell \\,- because it was no part of 
fflfe Employment of the apostles;^ neither 
in my view is the practice any where sWc- 


ing geography school? Did Christ make 
>vine for the people io drink as a beverage, 
and did 'mist use it as a beverage? Has 
not that piece vindicated the tempefslnce 
society cause, ntdre thari tHe Primitive 
Baptist cause. 

Dear brethren, I want to say something 
about 1 he doctrine of the eternal, self-exis- 
tcnl devil. I think that doctrine is con- 
trary to what God has revealed in his 
word. It seems" to be cfrttrary to reason, 
for it rh'akc!! I wo' self-existent beings. Of 
course both must be almighty, for the be- 
ing that is self existent must be almigh- 
ty. Now which' would have the best ffgh't 
io give ihe other laws, and bind the other 
under nh'lrgations to him? God says, lam 
the first and the last, the beginning and th'e 
ending. Now ?f* God is first, of course the 
devil cannot be first; for if the devil is eter- 
nal, he would be first which would m'a'fce 
two mst3, which cahnnot be. Well, how 
did the devil come? Is that our busTnesS? 
I think not. That which is revealed be- 
longs to' us and our children;' secr'et 1 things 
belong td'&odl it f ctf ccAil'd 1 fi nd out all 
a'hont the devil, would it make our condi» 
lion any better? Let us" learn to resist the 
devil that he may flee from us; aru l let u.*, 
try to learn vvlYs't 1 God h<; tS revealed in 
his word, wh'i'ch will */. ve us as much know- 
ledge of God as he intended for our good. 
When we get into the Book, I think we 
have nothing else to guide us; then let us 
slay i'n the scriptures, and we are safe. 

I' now* subscribe m } self your unvvorthv 
brothei' in Christ!. 


TO fifcfrGRS Primitive BAPTIST*. • 

ftoned in God's Word. Now, according 
td' the request, 1 put some q., es -ions in 
WHk'h is t'he greatest gin, to make liqiior 
and 1 sell b* Or by) it anf ] drink 
hr HW rotlld' you get it if it was not 
made?' Are we to do nothing of labor but 
just the kind 1 thai the apostles did) Can 
you find where tHe apostles taught a sing- 

tflabama, Coffee cotihty, f 
, ■ Nov. 28/A, 1S45J V 

j Brethren Editors Primitive Bkp- 
i tist: For the first time, I ! now take this 
method of communicatitig-to'ali my dear 
old brethren, who have worn themselves 
down in the great cause of our Redeemer, 
in writings and preaching on the subject 
of Redemption by Jesus Christ, that I- 



greatly delight in the contents of your J These are too shocking for reflection td 

valuable paper 

By the grace of oiir Lord Jesus Christ, 

dwell Upon. Wonder, oh man! be lost in 
admiration, at those prodigious events 1 that 

I remain yet on the land and among the; are coming Upon the universe; the great- 
living, surrounded by enemies to the doc-j ness of which nothing finite can measure, 
trine of election; but let us Pome td the! such as will eause whatever is considerable 
conclusion of the whole matter, as seen by : or momentous in the annals of all genefa- 
John on the Isle of Patmos. Behold the I tions to sink into littleness and nothing, 
books are opened. We believe when the J Jesus, prepare as for their approach; defend 
final accomplishment of all these matters us when they take place, big with the eveN 
are brought to an issue, that all men will; lasting fate of all the living, and all the 
know who is fight and who is wrong; dead. Yea, multitudes of thronging fta- 
when the secrets of all hearts are disclosed, tions, rising from the earth and seas. I 
the hidden things of darkness are brought must see the world in flames and mtlst 
to light. | stand at the dissolution of all terrestrial 

I had a man to stay with me last night, things,and be an attendant on the burial of 
who said he had been in the first place a nature. 1 mUst see the incarnate God 
Presbyterian, and a seceder, and Methodist, issuing forth from light inaccessible with 
and Old Side Baptist. And I told him ten thousand times ten thousand of angels 
after all, that he had been a little of any to judge men and devils. 1 must see 
thing, and nothing at last. How empty the curtains of time drop, see all eternity 
and ineffectual, are all those refined ar- disclosed to view, and enter Upon a state 
tifices,with which hypocrites impose upon of being that will never, never have art 
their fellow creatures, and preserve a char- end: — = 

acter in the sight of men; but a jealous God Great day of dread decision and despair, 
who has been about their path and about At thought of thre each sublunary wish, 
their beds, and Spied oiit all their Ways, Lets go its eager graep and quits the 
"sits before them the things that they havei world, 

done." They cannot answer him one inj Dear brethren, give these lines a place in 
a thousand, nor stand in the awful judg-| your P 3 P er > if y ou think them worthy. I 
ment. They arc speechless With guilt, and [ should have left the writing to my superi- 
stigmatized with infamy before all thean-'ors, but I wanted to send a few subscri- 
gels of light. What a favor would they I bers' names. May the grace of our Lord 
esteem it to hide their ashamed heads in Jesus Christ be with you alh Amen. 

the bottom of the ocean or everi to be buried 
beneath the ruins of a tottering world, if 
the contempt poured upon them be in- 
supportable, oh, how will their hearts 
endure when the sword df infinite indig- 
nation is unsheathed and fiercely waved 
ground their defenceless heads, dr pointed 
directly at their naked breasts? How 
must the wretches scream with wild amaze- 
ment, and rend the very heavens with 
their cries, when the right aiming thunder- 
bolts go abroad with dreadful commission to 

I am your companion in gospel bonds. 


to Editors primitive baptist. 

Lexington, Georgia, 
4th Jan. 1846. 
Dear Brethren: I have delayed wri- 
ting on account of those for whom I have 
subscribed, for I want to continue myself, 
as I like to hear from my brethren at a 
distance. When they tell of my trials 
drive them from the kingdom of glory, and troubles here, it strengthens and con- 
and plunge them not into the sorrows of a firms me in the way that I believe the 
moment, or the tortures of an hour, but in- Lord left on record for encouragement for 

to all the restless agonies of unquenchable 
fire and everlasting despair? 

those that wish to follow him. May the 
Lord enable his followers to contend for 



the truth to the end of time, and may he 
toless and sanctify the efforts that are in 
operation agreeably to his word, and may 
he keep us by his power through faith un- 
it* salvation, is my desire for Christ's sake. 
Amen. THOS, AMIS. 


The .power oj 'Faith. C. Mi 
tiow faith it is the gill of God> 

And by it we lay hold; 
Keceive the promise in Ivis word) 

And hope it makes us bold. 

And charity it is the graces 

That never, never Uies^ 
And so we hope to see lus laee> 

We love the saciilice. 

by faith we see our sins forgiven, 

by hone we live ami die< 
by love we pass from earth to heaven, 

To taste the joys on high. 

Now faith and hope they will abound* 

I ill both are lost in sight; 
But love it runs eternal round, 

And guides us truly right. 

So love it draws us like a cord, 

And points to Jesus' blood; 
And so we live upon his word, 

And trust our living God. 
Now faith and love they both combine, 

To set the pris'ner free; 
Mercy and justice both can shine, 

And so they both agree. 
Through grace divine we hope to shine. 

With Christ in heaven above; 
And there to rest with all ihe blest, 

And sing redeeming love. 

The happy TruviUers. S. M. 

Oh, happy souls are they, 
Whose sins are all forgiven; 
They safely travel on ilieir way, 
And so they get io heaven. 
They walk by faith indeed, 
And keep the sacred road; 
As such from bondage have been freed, 
And made their peace with God. 
Tliey go from strength to strength, 
And keep the narrow way; 
They all shall overcome at length, 
And shine through endless day. 
And when they're called to go, 
To that bright world above; 

They joyful leave all things below, 
And sing redeeming love. 

The Spirit nowsnys, come, 

And Welcome, says the bride; 
They travel on their journey home, 
To ireel the sanctified* 

The angels waiting stand, 
To hear their souls away; 
O'er Jordan to the promis'd land, 
Where all is endless day. 

Macon, Ga. May 6, 1845. 



Appointments for Elder Parham PuC' 

The 1st day of March at Nahunta; 2nd, 
at Memorial; 3rd, at black Creek; 4th, at 
Contentnea; 5th, at Tosnot ■; 6 h, at Up- 
per Town Creek; 7th, at Hardaway's, 
8th, at Williams's; 9ih, at Lawrence's, Conetoft: I2ih, at Tarboro'; 1 3th, 
at Old Town Creek; 1 4th, at Autrey's 
Creek: 15th, at White Oak; l?th, at Mea- 
dow; 18th, at the Poor House in Greene; 
I 9th, at Ko-e of Sharon. 

April 22, at Rose of Sharon; 24th, at 
Red Hanks; 25th, at Great Swamp: 26th, 
at Kiat Swamp; 27th, at Spring Green; 
25th, at beargrass; 29th, at Skewarkey. 

May 1st, at Morattnck; 2 ,d, at White 
Chapel; 3rd, at Concord; 4th, at Liver- 
man s; 6ih, <X Gum Neck; 7ih, at bethle- 
hem; Sth, at Sound Side; 9th, at Ange- 
ley's; 10<h and 1 Ith, at Concord; 12th, at 
White Chapel; 1 3th, at Morattock; 15th, 
in Washington; 17th, at blount's Creek; 
18th. at Whitford's; 19th, at Swift Creek. 



North Carolina. C.B.Hassell, tVilliamsttm 
R. M. G. Moore, Germanton. W. w.Mizell,f7y- 
mouth. Benji Bynum, Nahunta Bepoti H.Ave- 
ta,.1vera*boro\ fjurwell Temple, Raleigh. Thos^ 
Bagley, Smithfield. James H. Sasser, IVaynen- 
boro\ John Fruit, Sandy Greek, L. B. Bennett, 
Heathville. Cor's Oanaday, Cravensvillc, Wil- 
liam Welch, JlbboWs Creeki A, B, Bains, 
Jr. Stanhope. C.T.Sawyer, Powell's Point. Isaac 
Tillery,/«a/>/«wrfi H. Wilkerson, WestPoint. Jas. 
Miller, Milton Park. Isaac Meekins and Samuel 
Rogers, Columbia, \Nm, M. Rushing, White % $ 
Stoic. James H.Smith, Wilmington, Jacob Her, 
ring, Goldsboro'. St Tatum. Elizabeth City, Ad,- 
am Hooker, Salem Church, Maximilian Tatum, 
Cool Spring. 

South Carolina. Wm, S. Shaw, Hock Mills 
W. B. Villard, Sr. Mken, M.McGraw, #/•(!«??»'«, 




I. t_i (BuiilMiin jWinri ttSnrn* Ji Gi Bowers, Whip- 
py Swamp, Win.' Ne|son, Camden, G, Mai- 
thews, Germ gtwi lie, J. C. Lucas, Lexington ,C, H. 

Georgia. John McKenney, Forsyth. Thomas 
Amis, Lexington. John Mi field, Macon,,. John 
W. TurneiL Pleasant, Hill. Wlliam Trice and 
William tf. Tavlor, T/io-nns/on. Ezra McCrary,. 
rVarrtntpn,' Prior'. Lewis, Thdmasvifle,' T, Las- 
setter, Vernon. Ahner Durham, Greenville, Jos. 
StoTall,^<7"»7/«. Geo. Leeves,Millcdgevi/le. Jesse 
Moore, [r.winifjh.jYf m. J. Parker, Chenuba. Jas.Pi 
Ellis, Pipi vifle . fVH aggard-, Jth?ns t A . MVThomp* 
ion, Fori falley. Daniel O'Neel, 'OliveGrove, Joh.u 
Wayne, Caij£*i. Ri S. Hamjick, Carroll/on. D. 
Smith, Coot Spripg Moses IT. Denman, Marietta 
Jethro Oat^s, Muf&erry Grove, Edmund Dumas, 
Johnttonville. Joel Col ley, ^Covington, Isrt'am 
Edwards, Marion. .Jose.p'ii Daniel, Fish's. Wil- 
lis S. JarrelV,' M. G. Summcrfield. Daniel B. 
Douglass, Bainbridge. Ri L. Hayne, Lebanon, 
T.w.Deari'ng, Cotton River. E. Daviss, Cfretn Hi\\. 

Alabama.' A^rt^aVorrV/Te/man/. H.Dance&W. 
Biszell,£u/a!J'. Ej.Bell, Liberty Hill. D. Gafford, 
Greenville. J.G'.W alker,M//on. Hi Williams, //«- 
tins, J. Daniel, C7«i6or/iei E. Daniel, CkurchHillt 
i .C*Tpm\eT , St. Clinton ,] ,Mc(X-JP.%h,{/bwndesboro. 
Wm.Talley,. Mount Moriah, G. Herring, Clayton. 
B. Upchnrch, Benevolo. Si Hamrick, Ptanters- 
villc. Jainei^ 1 i u MQrg^n,i/fe^V. .R/Uf»jS Daniel' 
JameitonV Wm, Powell, Toungsviue. R. w.'Car-' 
lisle, Mount Hickory. Joel H i Chambless, Lowe- 
itlle. F. Pickett, t'/imo J^rop/,'' John w. PeMum- 
Franklin,' r Jehn Uarrei), Missouri. .W rri.Triom- 
ss, Gainer's , Store. E. M. Amos, Midway, Jos. 
Hollowaf, Activity. K. Bi Stallings, Livingston, 
Jitti i ones iSuggsvi lie, Nathan Amaspn,,,5u/7i^iy- 
•i/fc. Allerf' Moore, fn'tcrctJursiV John Bryan, Sr. 
Fullertville, Joseph Soles,, Luke 
Haynie, and Benj. Lloyd, Wttumpka. Ni N. 
Barmofe', Aft// /'cr/, Jesse Taylor, Auburn, A. 
Hatlry, Pint lata. Vincent Williams, Mobile. 
Young Smith,, F/nfaula. T.J. Foster, fle//'s jtaq- 
Vui^. Henry- Cason, White water, John Mil- 
ler, New Market, Henry Petty, .Pt'ctanftulle. D. 
R. P. )£Vlgi Pairtectu'lle. John whitehead, Jr. 
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by deception, &c. effect that which he 
could not otherwise perform; till through 
riii i .'-..; ■: yr- 1' their grossness and hardness, or dark- 

ness, they should even dony the Lord 
SOCIETYISM EXAMINED, J esU s, and bring on themaalves and 

■fi Discourse delivered by the author at' followers swift, and sudden, and cer- 
Cataivba church, York district, S. C. j tain destruction. 2nd Pet. 2nd. 1st verse.. 
4/A Oct. 1845. . And that many should become followers of 

"But chiefly them that walk after the their pernicious ways, by whose means 
flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and des- the ways of truth should be evil spoken of. 
pise government. Presumptuous are they, But as. all their deception could not either 
self-willed; they are not afraid to speak hide the godly (or Christ's covenant peo- 
evil pf dignities'. ** 2nd Pet. 2nd, I0th,&c. pie) from the mercy and care of Jehovah, 
Introduction. — In casting dur eyes on so neither could it shield them from that 
the pretext of this passage of holy writ, day and judgment which he hadappoint- 
which the apostle Peter under the impress ed. Act?, 17. 31st. And as it would have 
of the holy spirit saw fit to direct to his been tedious to have given everv errone- 
brethren, the believers on the Lord Jesus ous doctrine and practice, which would 
Christ, whom he recognized a3 elect or a necessarily grow out of their pertinacity, as 
separate chosen people, not only in name they should wax woise and worse, deceiv- 
bii't by the Holy Ghost; being made par- ing and being deceived, 2nd Tim. 3rd, 
takers of the divine nature, having esca- 13th; and as they were to be known b\' 
ped the corruptions that were in the world their fruits, Matth. 7th. I6;h; therefore it 
through lust, 2nd Pet. 1st, 4th; yet seemed good to the Holy Spirit to give a 
knowing" the assiduity of the adversary, few of the leading traits of their character 
whom he had previously described as a that they might at any time under any 
prey-hunting" lion, 1st Pet. 5th. 8th; and clonk, name, or disguise, which they might 
that he would leave no means or device and would assume, be subject to detection 
unturned, to sink the kingdom of light by those who had and were guided by the 
and sully or tarnish the glory of Christ, word and spirit of God. 
And hide the true source of joy from j The character of those then that were 
man, that he might cause them to rejoice 'specially,' or the chief among those to 
in a thing of nought. Amos,6. 13. And whom the mist of darkness is reserved for 
what he could not perform by open hate, ever, verse 17th; 1st. They walked after 
persecution, and such like, he would en- the flesh. 2nd. They despised or dises- 
deavor to effect by false teachers, who teemed government. 3rd. They were 
fhould in a private way or covertly, and! presumptuous and self-willed. 4th. TJiej 



were not afraid to sneak evil of dijnities. 
And those things they understand not, 
and were to utterly perish in their own 
corruption, verse 12, &c. It is evident 
then beyond the power of earth and hell 
to controvert, that if we shew the trait of 
character embodied in the text, we have 
brought to light one of the family of de- 
struction, and should not own nor embrace 
such an one as being a fit member of the 
mystical body of our Lord Jesus Christ; 
till by repentance and reformation they 
give evidence ot their enlightened or re- 
newed state, and become obedient chil- 
dren of our heavenly Father; but with- 
draw ourselves from them who walk not 
according to the apostolic order. 2nd 
Thes. 3rd. 6th. If any man teach other- 
wise, and consent not to wholesome 
words, even the words of our Lord Jesus 
Christ, and to the doctrine which is ac- 
cording to godliness, he is a fool, knowing 
nothing; but doting about questions and 
strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, 
strifes, railings, evil surmisings, perverse 
disputings of men of corrupt minds and 
destitute of the truth, supposing that gain 
is godliness, from such withdraw thyself. 
1st Tim. 3,4,5 verses. 

1st. Then the wicked through the pride 
of his countenance will not seek after 
God. God is not nor does not rule in all 
his thoughts. Psa. 10th. 5th. Hence they 
are actuated or influenced by fleshly or 
worldly propensities; and a few of the 
grossest of these works are summed up 
by Paul in his fifth chapter to the Gala- 
tians, 17th and following verses. And in 
his address to the Ephesians, he shows 
this to be the natural or alienated state of 
the unbeliever, or those who are yet in 
darkness. Eph. 2nd. 1, 2, 3 verses. And 
■ we cannot rationally expect such to walk 
contrary to nature, but that they will em- 
brace every opportunity to fulfil the de- 
sires of the flesh and of the mind. Eph. 
2nd. 3rd. While it is said of the opposite 
character, that their desire is only good. 
Prov. 11th. 23rd. And the church of old 
said by the mouth of the prophet, the de- 
sire of our souls ia to thy name. Isa. 26th. 

8th. Hence it is easy to wdgh our aefsy 
our aims, and true standing, and know' 
what family we are of, or belong to; whe- 
ther the family of death, or family of life. 
For- if we live after or according to the 
flesh, we shall die. But if we through the 
spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, 
we shall live. Rom. 8th. 13th. 

2nd trait. They despise (or disesteem) 
government. Now it is evident both from 
the Old and New Testaments, that God 
has in a direct or providential way estab^ 
lished civil governments, which it was sin 
to disobey or oppose. See 1st Saml. 8th. 
7th. And brought consequential damna- 
tion. Rom. 13th. 1, 2 verses. And Paul, 
guided by the Holy Spirit, embodies to a 
degree this law with the decalogue, as to 
its strength and authority, and that it binds 
love to our neighbor according to Levit 
18.19. Matth. 22nd. 29th. Gala. 5th. 14th. 
Jas. 2nd. 8th. Rut in connection or addi- 
tion to civil government there is another, 
not against but superior to civil govern- 
ment, in its purity and intentions; holy in 
its rules, and glorious in its ends; being it- 
self holy, just, and good. Rom. 7th. 12th. 

3rd trait of character. They were pre- 
sumptuous and self-willed, which appears 
to imply that they were so arrogant that 
they chose rather to make laws and rules 
of their own more suited to carnality and 
pride, than to obey those that were given 
of God and in accordance with the omni- 
potent wisdom of the all-wise Jehovah; 
and which is equivalent to saying, that 
they can do better than he did, and make 
better laws and governments than he has 
done; which is presumption, equalling 
that of satan himself. Self-willed, having 
a will or desire of their own, in perfect 
accordance with their carnal unreconciled 
mind: which is not subject to the law of 
God, neither indeed can be. Rom. 8th, 
7th. Therefore they have a will of their 
I own, at variance with the will of God, ori- 
ginated in a corrupt and rebellious heart, 
and thus they are self-willed. 

4th trait. They are not afraid to speak 
evil of dignities. Now as the term digni- 
ties is in the plural, we shall, use it in * 



bltitalMy There is no fear of God before 
their eyis. I'rov 36 1st. Rom. 3 Hth 
Now what is to be expected of a"depiave*d 
bum in beinghaviiig these trail* of chaTac- 
ter, or evert a majority ol them? 1st. 
They walk' after the ffesh". 2nci. Despise 
government. 3rd. Presumptuous and self 
willed. 4th 4 . They are not afraid to speak 
evil of dignities?. Now we understand by 
the scriptures, that the flesh represents a 
• carnal and alienate I sia'e, or submission to 
God wheihVf in law, precept, or govern- 
ment. For it is nol subject to the law of 
God, neither indeed can be. Rum. 8 7ih. 
They are contrary one to the oilier. Gal. 
5 17th. Therefore under the influence of 
that dark rebellious spirit which would say 
to God, depart from us, for we de-ire not 
the knowledge of (by ways, .lob, 21. 14th. 
And we all know that', that which we have 
no desire for or love of, i«i virtually demi- 
sed or disesteemed by us Hence being 
not subject to the liivv of God, we despise 
government Both civil and ecclesiastical. 
And being thus led by a presumptuous, 
blind, s'elf-s'iffiVient, rebellious spirit, we 
are not afraid to' speak evil of the dignity 
of the wisdom of G'od, as expressed in the 
jislice, goodness, and usefulness of his ap- 
pointments, whether in church or Slate. 
And proes's and practice to make better 
than he lias done, though the scripture 
says, who can make that straight which he 
hath made crooked? Eccl. 1st. 15th'; and 
7. 13th. 

Now whether we understand it or not, 
when we undertake bv our little earth- 
grown societies to make (better laws, rules 
and regulations th in he has done, and eff ct 
greater objects" than he has done, we it fleet 
on the wisdom and power of God, and 
prove ourselves to be in possession of a 
majority of those traits, which characterize 
those who are to be first or chief among 
the objects of vindictive punishment. Now 
not to be tedious, we find by scripture the 
Lord Jesus promised his Holy Spirit to 
teach his followers all thins-', .lohh, 14 
2Uth. And he should dwell iu them, and 

teach them id pray; or in olher words, to 
cry, Abba Father. Hut one of our high- 
toifed societies now in the nineteenth cen- 
tury, in" their self-sufficient, high, impro- 
ved stale to degrading of the dignity and 
power of the Spirit of God. now offers you 
or us, a book to learri us to pray. Thus in 
this and many other respects, an acquaint- 
ance wilh the word and spirit. of God ia" 

But agi/iit. Beside these (here is anoth- 
er, wide spread and far famed', that profes- 
ses to moralize without go-pel restraint, 
and make men almost fit for the kingdom' 
of heaven, without a knowledge of Christ 
and his g< spel. Teh so pure and clarify- 
ing ate the tendencies of this Society, rising 
indignity (in the minds o'f many) above 
the dignity of the la -;s and precepts of the 
Lord Jis'us Christ, that his laws though of 
equal dignity with his character, are dis- 
esteemed or spoke evil of ad befog insuffi- 
cient to make a man moial and tempeiate. 
Thus it may he -aid of the ri as was said of 
their older brethren long ago, thev have 
made the commands of God of none effect, 
by their traditions or improvements. 
Mat'th. 15ih. 6ih. 

Now we believe that much the larger 
number (if not all) of (hose earth-sprung 
societies amongst us, not only sprung from 
from the same fountain, but all produce the 
same fruit (to a degrees) that is, a great' 
name, and high prai.-e to man, and hand- 
some gain; which pleases man and offends" 
or dishonors G'rfd'. As in the words of the 
text, they walk after the flesh, despise go- 
vernment, they are presumptuous and self- 
willed; they are nut afraid to speak evil of 
dignities, even the government and digni- 
ty of the Lord in church and State. For 
if those things w^re understood and we 
were influenced thereby, we would need 
no societies but that of church and State, 
which are dignities or powers of his ap- 
pointment, ordained of God. Rom. 13. 1st. 
Titus 3rd. 1st. 1st Peter, 2nd. 13 and 14/ 
vs. lifil if those that appear to be akin to 
ihe light will nol wear the light of God'i 



word, what muM become of those which |«us stand aloof from (hem. but we think 
ate in the dark, if we" bring them forth] they .should view them as firlly characleri- 

ivith all iheir high pretensions and powers 
of deception, and are thus characterised by 
the poet— ' 

Wiih name-* of virtue she deceives, 

The aged and the young; 
And while the heedless wretch believes, 

She makis his letters strong. 

Now we who are acquainted with some 
icraps of history know that there have 
been societies in past ages who have made 
professions vi-ry different from their real 
intentions, and by that means have enlist- 

sed irr the words of the text. 

Now f do not know w-heihef Mr. Abef 
Person of Tennessee, is professedly ei'hera* 
Mason or Od. I Fellow. But if he i*. he is 
Sho'ii as consistent as We (»imr of U*J are. 
We deny ••hnrch fellowship to those who 
sprinkle infants, though God has no win re 
said expressly ye shall not sprinkle infants* 
and fall out With tho-ethat tell us, God has 
siid ye Shall not tfbfc>i,ve tin es, because we 
want to gratify our vanify on the fotiith of 
.fulv, &(\ For though he is a great stick* 

ed men of morality, good men. Whereas] ler for some of these little e.uih-burn sorie- 
if either tho dignity of the appointment* <f tins, \ et he scruples not to say. that the in- 
Jehovah, or the tine aim of the propaga- fidelity ami atheism which Spread all nvrf 

tors had been understood. would have 

Kiirope in the 18th century, and at length 

gtood aloof from them, and tev< renced and | took the name of I IUf mhtr-rn and Jacobin- 
obeyed the laws of Christ the Lord. j ism. all arose out of iheea*'ein and western 
The first that «e would refer you to, i« i apostacii s. and wa« fnU tep'esrnted byun- 

the Society of ihe Jesuit" in the sixteenth 
century, lounded by Ignatius Loyola-, as 
shewn by Mr. Buck in his Dictionary 

file iiv spirits like ft ogs. going foith to the 
kings of >he earth and the whole World, la 
stir th.m it,) to battle, &c. Nothing (says 

And though nothing need he more uptigl t , he) could he mote like the spifcil of devi's 
than their prole-sed intentions, yet nothing And he add... any honest man that is or 
perhaps mote fatal in its consequences. Burr I will become a<q tainted with the history of 
we can only lefer yon to his book, and air* [ Jacobinism must IV el convinced that it is 
thors quoted by him. Again, he gives us, the spirit of the hot torn less pit. (I do hot 
an account at consderahle length of the so- 1 know the D. n tor's ie<sons tot dropping nut 
cieties of the llluminen, or Uluminali, es- , so soon Uhlminism ami Masonry, which 
tablished in 1776, by Doctor Adam VVeis-', weie all united,) according to the tesiimo- 
haupt. Nothmg need he more ptaisewor- ! nv of the authors quoted by Mr Buck, 
thy than the avowed objectsof ihisonhr, ! Mr Person again tells lis on the next 
and the Doctor's perception led him to page, that many of ihese same people thus 
elect another, to wit. Ktee Masonry: j employ ed against Hod. his government, 
which, wi.hout ,ioing violence to any, was and all religion, and all that was sacred, till 

they had barbarously hutchetrd two mil- 
lions of the inhabitants of France. In this- 
carnage nothing shielded a professor but to 
he a Jacobin, for many of the Jacobins- 
professed to be Cat holies, 'hat they might 
do the mote ha mtu» hat they called ( i "hris-- 

Now how we can read the traits of cha-- 
racler in the text, view the face of history. 
and despise or disesteem the appoint meit*- 
nf God. by g'ving any earth boin instttu- 
tiou a superior or equal nUUon. if saeujhi 1 

of the san e earthly family and could not 
with artogatire claim more than catthly 
parentage. And if Mr Buck has quoted 
Professor Uobesou and the \bb© Burn*! 
honestly, with pespeit to their real design 
to overturn a'! religions and governments, 
and bring the artsol civilized life into con- 
tempt, to say nothing of the grossness of 
the ceremonies used at, ohl mission, .wake 
the eye of puhlic vigilance overall ihose 
little earth horn societies Bui much 
«a«re should the followers of the Loi«l Je- 



10 strike good sense with a«toni«hrnent | be even thought without the highest pre- 
Oiice more — we know thai 'lie appoint sumption, that frail depraved mortals coul J 
mollis of (Joel in chinch and Stite are dig possibly nuke hetier e»!ab!ishments, or s»- 
pifi-d powers, and worthy the icrm digni fer laws, than the Lord had done. Now 

being brought into this kingdom, or as the 
scripture expn s-es it, to glory and virtue, 
2nd Pet. \-t. 3rd, (being afore prepared by 
grace,) vye enter tbat kingdom-visibly by a 
vow, jn which we not only avouch the 
Lord to be our God, but professedly avow 
ourselves to be tiie Lord's people; and the 
srripiure sus, vow and pay to the Lord. 
I\sa 7-41 h. lit h. Again— when thou shall 

tie*. As to the p ! es and immunities of the 
iSta'e, or privileges of citizenship, we are 
partakers by h't'th or the laws of naturali- 
sation, a b^'otf once recognised; until we 
forfeit that light, we are entitled to all the 
security and protection which it gives in 
person, properly, and character. And suf 
fivjrnt or ample provision is made, that vye 
might wad* togeihet in confidence and hon 
Jtsty, which firms the moral tip among the vow a vqw to the Lord thy God, thou shalt 
members, of the same gr> at fimilv. being not slack to pay it; for the Lord thy God 
lher« by hound lo defend the honest and i will sun ly require it of thee, and it would 
ihe innocent, to relieve the oppressed, and begin in thee. Dent. 23rd 2 1st. When 
help the afflicted; or, in other words, thou vowest a vow unto l»od, defer not lo 
, charity. pay that which thou hast vowed, for he 

Now this being understood and acted hath no pleasure ijn fools. Ecclesiastes. 5th. 
put. would supercede for ever all these lit- 4th. We also virtually vow to live to 
lie dark earth-born societies, and save us, God and renounce the world, the flesh, and 
from being pre-umptuoijs enough to cast! the devil. And how we cap after this 
r«fl etions on the wisdom and providence i uni'e in a sworn association with atheists, 
of Go I. or our legislators, 3* though we deists, and worldlings of almost every de- 
could mike wist and better laws than sciiption, and not feel that we are vir- 
fhey had thine. It is algo provided in and tuallv p-rjined, is what I have yet to learn. 
}f)y the same authority, for the punishment And thus through presumption and a flesh 

pf tran.-gressois f.»r the good of the coinmu 
pity. Now i;od has informed us that he 
dots not approve qf punishing the inno- 
cent, nor clewing the guilty; then if we 
provide for either qf those ihmg.s t<> effect 
Jhem, we despj-e the government of God, 
and r» bel against the dignity of his wis 
florn andjustie, and fill Ihe trah of charar- 
fer in the text 

Hut again— there is another exalted gov 
ernment oadled or selected out of the king- 
doms of this world, called the kingdom of 
the Lord, or church of Christ; said to be 
£he pillar and the ground of the truth. 1st 
Tim. 3rd 15th. To or into which we are 
palled by the grace of God, so "far exceed- 

pleasing principle, we, are not afraid to 
speak evil of the dignity of church and 
State, by binding ourselves by a more sol- 
emn obligation (as vye apprehend) lo a band 
who like ourselves have virtually renoun- 
ced the obligition of both church and 
State; and might justly be clas-ed with 
those of whom the Lord complains by the 
mouth of the prophet thus: They have for- 
saken me the fountain of living waters, and 
hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns 
that can hold no water. Jer. 2. J 3. 

Now it is evident that it all or mainly 
arises from .three particulars, to wit: Love 
of the world, disregard to civil govern- 
ment and its obligations, a distrust of the 

|ng in jts laws and privileges, that it iscall- providence of God. or lack of faith, or 

ed the marvellous light. 1st Pet. 2nd. 9th 
JJnder this government we are said to in- 
herit the glorious liberty of the childrteifbl 
Gp,d. Rom. Sth. Slut Now jt could not 

want of love to him. 1st. It is fleshly or 
sinister motives, for of all we have heard 
express a desire or intention to join the 
confederation, (the Odd Society.) it wa» 


under some present or contemphted pfes-,.fvir}e perfections' of God, and his absolute 
sure there, to be helped out of the scrape [authority over us and mir obligations to 
And never once thought, pei haps. o,f apply \ him, we would need nine of the patchwork 

ing to him who has the Jieu'.s of all men 
in his hand?, and as ibe rivers of waters 
turns them whither he will. Prov 21sl. 

of mm; nor Odd, nor earth-born societies 
neither, to help not or better Ibe jaws and 
government uf God. Fir through the 

1st. Rut rather being under a curse (hem j greatness of his name, or power, even his 
selves, by departing from the Lord and jen=miei would submit themselves to him. 
making man his hope and flesh his arm. j Psa. 6Qlh. 3rd. 

(or power.) .ler. 17th. 5 h; or like wicked 
King Ahab, who in lib; stubbornness and 
rebellion transgressed more against the 
Lord, and siid, because the gods of the 
Kings Syria helped them therefore will I 
saci ifice to them tint they gn ty help me 
2nd Chron. 28th. 23id. But they were 
the ruin of htm and all Israel, (lei us thete- 
fore beware ) 

It is also said by some it is a charitable 
societj", and that is the reason we joined 
it. Now this cannot be true, for if we had 
alms to «ive there is no want of objects to 
receive; and the plan prescribed by the 
Lord Jesus is certainly the wi-e-t and 
best. See Matlh. G h. I, 2, 3, 4 verses', li 
is not only false, but highly presumptuous 
that it is necessary to form societies for the 
exercise of charity. The law of God and 
of nature, and the precepts of the gospel. 
all enjoin charity ; ami the idea that we 

}t i-i said again, there is no scripture 
against it, (societies and sworn bands.) 
Then if we bave shewed none, we will try 
agon. We find in Pipverbs 1st, a combi- 
nation of men. or si nneis allui ing youth 
and saying, cast in thy lot with us, let all 
hive one poise. But the spirit of God 
says, my son, walk not thou in the way 
with them, refrain thy foot from their 
pith, for ihsir fet run to evil, &.c. . Piov. 
1-t M, 15. 16 ver-es. Again, Isaiah, 8th. 
11. 12, 13 verses, For the Lord spake 
thus io nie with a strong hand, and in- 
structed me th 4 I should not walk in the 
way of this people, saying, say ve not a 
confederacy, to all them to whom this peo- 
ple shall say, a confederacy ; neither fear; 
ye their fear, nor be afrud. Sanctify the 
Loid of hosts himself; and jet him be your, 
fear, and let him be your dread. — Whatso- 
ever thing I command you. observe to do 
must form societies or sworn bands for that | it; thou shall not. add thereto, nor dimin- 

purpose, is to reproach the wisdom of 
Uod, and despise bis government. And 
proving it too by attempting; io establish 
better of our own. Now for the provision 
for charity in the law of the Lord, we re- 
fer you to the loth Dent. 7 to 14 verses; 
and chapter 24th. 19th, 22nd verses; and 
JVlatth 5.42; Acts, 6th 32. 35. There- 
fore it is either falsehood or a delusion, 
that any have joined any earth born un- 
scriptural society for ths purpose of exer- 
cising charity.' The Spirit saitTi, as' we dom and his power, and presumption in 
have oppoi luniiy jet us do good to all men, the highest, and fraught with damning con- 
specially those who are of the household of I sequences, (witness the innovations ol po- 
iailh, (not a little sworn association.) Gal rpery.) \*'c also know that the Jewish 
6th. 10th. 'economy during its existence was the most 

Now if we were in possession of the ne- I dignified in the world, both as respected 
••«sary degree of the knowledge of the di- | its privileges and consequences; pertain- 


Mi from it Dent. 12'h. 32ml See also 
chap, 4th. 2m\ verse Add not thou untq 
his words, lest he reprove ihee and thou 
be found a liar. Prov. 30th. 6ih. 

Now we know tint the law of God and 
the word of God are synonymous tirms 
and imply the same thing, sacied, digni- 
fied, and glorious. And to attempt to es- 
tablish belter laws, regulations, communi- 
ties, or societies than he has done, is to add 
to his words, or law; lo impeach his wis. 



ing nat only to. this life, but also that agree, Amos, 3 3rd, how (hen can the«e 

little sworn or co.m!)ine<l menders of the 
laws and economy of Christ presume, or 

which is to come. Hut when the true lijght 

of the gospel day had illuminated the heart 
and mind of both Jews and Gentiles, and 
they became one in Christ Jesus, then the 
word and spirit of the gospel became the 
rule and conduct of conversation, and all 
0,1 her was set aside as being weak and beg 
garlv. Gal. 4th. °th. And those who had 
professed to have received this rule, were 
exhorted to walk by it; because there were 
many who were the enemies of the cross 
pf Christ, whose god wa9 their belly and 
their regard to earthly tilings, and they 
gloried in that of which they ought -to be 
ashamed. Philip. 3rd. I s -', 19 verses. 

Now all these things, rjbth Jew and den- 
tile establishments, in eompanso'n of the 
gospel were called iveik and beggarly, Gal. 
4ih. 9th; being out of season and uri'wor 
J,hy the Christian calling, Eph. 4ih. 1st; 
and fraught with many evils, as we hope to 
show by the by. IJence Christians were 
exhorted to abstain from them, in all their 
appearances. 1st The 4, 5,th. 22nd. And 
all those little earth born sworn bands that 
we find in the scripture, were. for the com- 
mission of evil. Acts, 23rd. 12ih; Prov. 
\sl. 14, 15, 16, IS verses. 

Again — if we are bound stronger to any 
earthly object, or combination of objecis, 
than we are to the Lord Jesus Chris 1 , 
whether by oath or any other tie, we can 
not be his disciples or followers Luke. 
14th. 33rd. The disciple is not above his 
master, nor the servant above his Lord. 
Malth 10th. 24th. 

Now we would ask common sense itself, 
who is to ruls and who is to obey? who is 
^ogive laws and establish government, and 
who is to yield and obey? We answer, if 
the Lord be God, obey or follow him. 1st 
Kings 18th .2 1st. Again — if two parties 
Or rulers are both making laws and estab- 
lishing governments, they are sure to clash 
and disagree. (Now ask our fathers. fi;om 
England, Ireland, or Scotland, with res- 
pect to their experience of this fact.) And 
jf two cannot walk together except they 


we admit thim lo the fellowship of the 
Lord's Supper, while they being led by' 
the flesh di^esteem the government of 
Chiisr? Being presumptuous and self- 
willed, they are not afraid to speak evil of 
the dignity of chuich and Male, by profes- 
sing to establish better. 

Again--we cannot serve two masters. 
Matth. 6'h 24th, Mow then can we obey 
two governments, one of earth and accord- 
ing to the flesh, the other from heaven and 
according to the wisdom and spirit of God; 
unless we could bring about a reconciliation 
with ' h'ist and the and harmonise 
light and, and produce ami'y be- 
tween fle-h and the spijpjt. which !h-e II. dv 
Ghost s;m s cannot be done? G.aJ 5 h. 1 7 1 n 
Rom. 7 i.h. 25. and 8 h 7tk 1st Cor, 
2nd. I4'h, and 2nd Cor. Gih. 14, 1-5 verse.". 
yV'herefore come out from among them and 
be ye separate, saiih the Lord, vei>e 17th, 
(speaking to the church.) Again — he that 
doeth tntih comi'jh to the light, that his 
deeds may be made munfe^t ihat i h «-■ y rre 
wrought of God John, 3rd. 21s 1 . Let- 
none say any more that there is no scripture 
against them, for what is brought forward 
is) but a mete tithe o-f what itug'hl be 
brought lor ward; but if the>e do not suf- 
fice, more would not-. 

Now if Professor Robison. the Abbe 
Barruel, Mr. Huck, and Mr. Person, have 
given us a just account of Jacobinism, II- 
luniinis.m, and Masonry, in their oombineil 
state, and deceptive names, and fatal con- 
sequences, with some fact.*) known to our- 
selves, should not even the civil government 
regard them, (earth horn societies) with a 
careful and vigilant eye Hot much more 
should I be church of Chrisi stand aloof, ;md 
be careful lest she nourish vipers in her bo 
som; for if as stated by Mr. Person they 
decreed on the 27ih August, 1792, that the 
Convention, should be a Committee of in- 
surrection against all the kings in the uni- 
verse, the king of heaven not excepted. 


And «n the 15th of December following 
passed another decree to extend their sys 
tern by means lawful or unlawful to all 
countries occupied by their armies. That 
the murder and banishment of millions of 
the inhabitants of France, burning of the 
Bible, the French Revolution, wars and 
blood, were the fatal consequences. See Per- 
son on divine government, pages 35SSt 359; 
Buck's Dictionary, Art. Illuminati, &c. 

Now every plant bears its own seed, 
Gen. 1st. 11, 12 verses, 1st Cor. lSth. 38th. 
Uo men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of 
thistles? Matth. 7th. Again — whe- 
ther the name now assumed by the.m 
(0** ******s,) is used as a means of de- 
ception, or whether the}' thereby intend to 
intimate that they neither belong to church 
nor State, nor acknowledge civil nor eccle- 
siastical government, is not for me to de- 
cide. May th« blessed guide and the 
word en.ighten our minds that our judg- 
ment may • according to truth, for the 
first or chief among those whom God will 
destroy are walkers after or servants of the 

sus Christ, in his wisdom, and power, and 
spirit, and government. And instead of 
being ruled by that wisdom which is first, 
pure, peaceable, gentle, easy to be intreat- 
ed of, full of mercy and good fruits. Jas. 
3rd. 17th. And through this exalted opi- 
nion he has gone about to dictate for God, 
alter his laws, improve his statutes, and 
better his gouernment, as his own earthly 
wisdom dictated to him; and have taught 
men that the unchanging God is in some 
degree subject to or ruled by man. The 
necessary consequence of this delusion is, 
if I can make one Christian (myself,) then 
it only requires effort to make another. 
And upon this ground we preach freewill 
and great power in man, the power of God 
secondary or subservient to man, in the 
display of his wisdom and power. Hence 
the more we unite, the more wisdom and 
power, the more we shall effect, and the 
more will be our gain, and the more shall 
be our praise til) we conquer the earth and 
reign over the vyhole world. And this be- 
yond doubt is the fruitful source of these 
flesh, despigersof government. Presump- ! divisions, bands and parties, combinations 
tuous and self-willed, they are not afraid to ' an d societies, delusions, lies, and errors, 
speak evil of dignities. Hence it is writ- with all their fatal and God-dishonoring 
ten, behold \e despisers, and wonder, and tendencies and fatal consequences. Hav- 
perish. Acts, 13ih.'41st. Then on review- ing forsaken the Lord, we" are gone after 
ing.the foregoing we discover, or may dis J vain things that could not profit; having 
cover the n»',e»ity of examining ourselves left our guide, we have lost our way; forsa- 
whether we ht in the faith of the gos- J king the true light, we walk in darkness; 

pel, or the fancy of men, for as a certain 
writer on*e observed of the (professed) 
church, they were all the confusion of an- 
cient 5a bed, without the gift of tongues. 

Jfovv from this state the .Lord calls us, 
saying, COME OUT OF HER, MY 
PEOPLE. Rev. ISth. <1ih. "For awful 
clouds of angry judgments hang over her, 
and God remembers her sins? . Now if 
any ask from whence came all those clouds 
of error and confusion, we answer, from a 
fpidt of deception stealing into the heart 
of the man or people, persuading him that 
he was something when he was nothing, 
(of what he ought to be.) Gal. 6th. 3rd. 
And being thus blinded by the god of this 
world, till their heart was filled with 
pride and they tacitly denied the Lord Jc- 

and striving to get praise to ourse]ves, we 
dishonored the Lord Jesus Christ: and go- 
ing about to establish our own righteous- 
ness, we have not submitted to the righte- 
ousness of 'the Lord Jesus Christ. Romans, 
10th. 3rd. A n( ! talking in the light o£ 
the sparks that we have kindled, we have 
the promise we shall lie down in sorrow. 
Isa. 53rd. 11th. 

By this time perhaps some would ask, do 
you profess to be an Old School Baptist? 
We answer, by doctrine and precept, we do 
not deny it. Are you an anti-mission? we 
answer, no. Are you in favor ofoursoci- 
ties and exercises? we answer, no. Are 
you opposed to our temperance societies? 
we answer, yes. Are you in favor of in- 
temperance? we answer, no. What hav^ 



of the divine and benevolent, or lovely na- 
ture of their glorious head, and secured in 
him from the corruptions and the conse- 
quences of it, their life being; hid with 
Christ in God. Col 3. 3, &c. And this he 
calls a precious faith. And James defines 
between this precious or lively faith, and a 
dead or inactive one. See 2nd chap, and 
will try. \yhatsoeyer ye would that men I in the 8, 9, 10 verses, pointedly condemns 
should do unto you, do even the same to i this part}- or society concern. Hence 
them; for this is the law and the prophets, | when we bring; them (James, Peter, and 

yovj to nay of our societies in general? we 
answer, if they are earth-born they bslong 
to the earth; and if they are not of the 
Lord's planting, they must and will be 
rooted up. Matth. 15th. JL3th. Now we 
suppose some are reidy to say, you appear 
paradoxical, will you explain yourself? 
we answer, by the help of the Lord we 

said tfye glorious Lord and Saviour. Matth. 
7th. i'StJl. And his spirit through Paul 
says, as we have opportunity let us do 
good to all men, especially to them who 
are of the household of faith. Gal. G. lOlh. 
The household of God. Eph. 2. 19th. And 
doing gopd to all, (not a little sworn com- 
bination,) or select band of human choice. 
Thus we will be the children of our Fa- 
ther which is in heaven. Matth. 5. 4 1,45 
verses. Thus we have a rule or law for 
all, extending tQ all, and binding all; and 
those who reject it, should net be recogni- 
zed as a constituent member of the mysti- 
cal body of the Lord Jesus Christ; but as 
fully characterised in the words of the text. 
Again — with respect to every society 

Paul,) together, they will bear testimony 
to the truth, and find but two societies of 
God's appointment, properly called digni- 
ties, church and State. 

Having previously spoken of the State, 
a few words will suffice with respect to the 
church, called the household of God. And 
as it would bespeak that all was not right, 
tq see households forming, covenanting, 
binding, and swearing themselves into dif- 
ferent collusive bands, we would be con- 
vinced they did not intend to submit to 
the government of the householder; but 
despise and (if possible) overturn it. Now 
if we are in him, (Christ Jesus) as the 
scripture intimates, our duty then is plain: 
and these inventions, combinations, socie- 

now in repute among us, of whatsoever , ties, bands,confederations, (not provided for 
name they be, not provided for in the word in the word of God,) will be found super- 
of God, we are fully persuaded that a tho- fluous, and their tendency to subvert and 
rough knowledge of the character of God, ; overturn the law and government of God 
the purity and dignity of his law, and a and of Christ. Whereas, if the law of 
piowledge of our obligation to him, and , Christ was obe) T ed, there would not be 
^o obey his laws, would for ever sweep room in the world much less in the church 
^hem in their present form from under the for them, no more than there would have 
^ace of heaven. Now, to be fully under- j been room in Abraham's bosom for Ha- 
stood, you must have patience till we pre- 'gar, if Sarah had remained there. Gen. 
sent a miniature trait of the church in its : 16th. 3rd. 

pnrest state, before the wisdom of man be- 1 To understand this, let us see what the 
gan to try to compete with, or rise above testimony of the Spirit is to those who are 
fhe wisdom of God,. ! recognised as possessing precious faith. 

Now let us remember it is written, if, They were as one body, diligently to be 
any be hearers and not doers of the word, virtuous, knowing (or understanding the 

Jhey are only self deceivers. Matth. 7 
21st; ftomans, 2. 13th: Jas. 1st. 22 to 
25th. Now Peter, addressing those who 
had heard or received the law or record of 
God and obeyed it, that they possessed a 
precious faith through the gracious display 
gf the divine power; being made partaker 

will of the Lord;) temperate, patient, god- 
ly, brother-like, kind, charitable, &c. 1st 
Pet. 1st. 5, 6, 7 verses. So if we know 
God, obey his laws, submit to his rule, and 
lay self and pride where they ought 
to bs, we will form two grand dignities, 
church and State, that may not only dwell 



together in concord; but mutually pro- 
mote each other's good. Now by way 'of 
application or winding up, let us endeavor 
to make the proper enquiry, whether the 
laws of the land and the rights of citizen- 
ship ought not to bind every honest, well- 
meaning citizen to his fellow-citizen upon 
{he ground of mutual and equal enjoyment, 
pf all their common and public and private 
pr common and special privileges, pos- 
sessions and property. And much more 
as the safety of the nation and prosperity 
of the commonwealth, (in a certain sense) 
depend uppn keeping the public faith invi- 
plate. How much more the church, the 
jewels of Christ, having the plain and easy 
understood law interwoven with it, or in 
{hem, to do tp others as we would have 
pthers dp to us; or, love one another as 
Christ hath loved us, which is law and the 
prophets, or the sum total of the conde- 
scension of our wise and beneficent law- 
giver for the government of those digni- 
ties, or church and State. And to form 
combinations, societies, sworn bands not 
provided for in the grand bond of union, 
but contrary to the letter and spirit of it, 
manifest beyond contradiction a proud, 
haughty, selfish, high-minded disposition, 
{hat can not only look with contempt on 
government, but would overturn both 
church and State. Witness the French 
Revolution with its causes, propagators, 
and fatal consequences, as before quoted. 
Hence they are certainly characterized in 
the text, and should be watched with vigi- 
lance and care. 

Now Jet us propose a question or two. 
Would America and the Protestants be 
more sacred to them now than Europe 
was then? (1792.) And if they did not 
except the king of heaven then, will they 
do it yet? And if nothing shielded a pos- 
sessor then but to be a jacobin, what will 
do it now? And if all the Bibles found 
were burnt by them then, where will we 

blessed with all the peculiar, distinguished 
privileges belonging to our station; havr 
ing all the unalterable and unfailing pron> 
ises of daily support, present, future, and 
eternal good; and we bound by our vow 
to him, his cause and people; yet all profa- 
ned, despised, or discsteemed,and for what? 
A little, earthly, sensual combination, un- 
authorised by heaven, and of no benefit to 
any honest and well meaning man, much 
less a Christian; dishonoring to God, and 
a contempt on civil government. Either, 
devil-like deceitful in its name, or else ex- 
pressing its separation from and opposi- 
tion to both church and State; and should 
be accordingly recognized. And beyond 
all things should not be recognized as be- 
ing entitled to a seat at the Lord's table. 
For, as has been fully shown, the plea of a 
Christian renouncing his vow to the Lord 
and his people, for the sike of exercising 
charity in a sworn association with athe- 
ists, deists, or what not, is so grossly falla-.. 
cipus, I wonder they are not ashamed be- 
fore God and their fellow citizens to name 
it. Hence law and justice say, give all 
their due, and they should be recognized 
in their true dolors. And if any have ig- 
norantly embraced it, let them renounce, 
turn from, and repent: then they might be 
viewed and treated as Christians. But 
while in that confederation, without cast- 
ing contempt on the law of Christ, the ci- 
vil compact, and common sense, and chain- 
ing down reason, consistently they can- 

But to the other points in which we 
have been thought paradoxical. You re- 
collect what we said a little back, of the 
union and privileges of the primitive fol- 
lowers of the Lord Jesus Christ; who pro- 
fessed this precious, joyous, soul-quicken- 
ing faith, springing up from precious prom- 
ises, flowing forth from a precious, unfail-: 
ing, gloriojs fountain; cheering, quicken- 
ing, and enlarging all the powers of the 
hide them now? Let all concerned be soul; identifying its difference from a spu- 
careful and watch. Again — being in this rious or dead faith, whose foundation is in 
second heaven-appointed and high distin- the do, of poor frail man. And you know 
guished government, under the immediate in the law of nature you can only make 
law and precepts of the Lord Jesus Christ; water run a degree below the fountain 


head, (and so of faith;) the former failh I tion or society,') In those clays of pure 
then was to be accompanied and witnessed I gospel light, the church was one, in faith, 
by that which was virtuous, and this vir- in love, in practice; virtuous, knowing, 
tue by knowledge, to wit: a knowledge of temperate, patient, godly, (not worldly,) 
God in all his benevolence, and goodness,: brother like, and charitable. Thus they 
and mercy. Teaching us not only theun-j were neither barren nor unfruitful in the 
failing obligation of to him in j knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ. 
all things, but also that if God so loved us j Here then was the true missionary society, 
\ye ought also to love, one another. 1st , the whole church; the greai, the true soci- 
john, 4th. 11th. And to the true or pri- j ety for the spread of religious knowledge followers of the Lord Jesus Christ J and temperance, the whole church, the 
jl was not necessary that any of the high proper society to administer the sweets 
pretenders of the day should teach them; and consolations of kindness and charity, 
forthe anointing of Christ's spirit bad a!- the whole church. For that is the pillar 
ready taught it to them. 1st John, 2nd. and ground of the truth. 1st Tim. 3rd. 
27th. This accompanied by temperance, 15th. (Not a speculative theological in- 
striving for the mastery over sin; they stiintion.) 

were temperate in all things through the: But alas! alas! men have departed from 
spirit of tl)is holy anointing, sti i vino; to the truth, have walked after the flesh, (and 
walk even as he walked, they not only ah- not the spirit:) despising the government 
stained from drinking to drunkenness, but of God, they have become presumptuous 
they were temperate in all things. 1st and self-willed. They fear not practically 
Cor. 9th. 25th. Sober, holy, just, tempe- to speak evil of the dignities of both 
rate. T'tus, 1st. 8lh. Sound in failh, in church and State, and now appear as if 
charity, in patience. Titus, 2nd. 2nd. they waited the judgments of heaven, or 
Then where true fajth existed, founded on the reward of Babylon. Yea the minis- 
Ih^e immutability and faithfulness of him ters (or so called) have become Leyites, 
that promised. LIeb. 11th. 11th. They corrupted the visible church to gratify car- 
were patient, choosing rather to suffer na'lity, and made a concubine of her. And 
with their brethren, than to have the gains though she would flee to her father's 
of sin for a season. Hob. 1 1 th. 25th. house (or the Bible,) by tracts, fictions, 
Tdiey lived to God, and not the vanities tales, fables, libraries,. false doctrines*, a soft 
and maxims of the world; and having the and flesh pleasing gospel, &.c. &c, they 
same spirit, the same Father, the same in- pursue or go after her, and though they 
heritance, they suffered together and re- might yield to a few soliciiat'ions, yet they 
joiced together; felt as brethren, -were, will not be content on a morsel of (true) 
kjnd, their souls enlarged by the expand- bread; but must be up and away, so as to 
ing love qf God shed abroad in their expose her in Gibeah, (or make her like 
hearts. The}' were charitable from pri.n- the wen id.) Then she must he cut into 
ciple, and not to be applauded by man nor pieces, (or societies, &c.) and sent through 
for gain. ■.;■.: the land. Judges, 19th chapter. Now a 

Thus it is evident that a true gospel, council, then a war, (or excommunication 
truly received by the operation of the Spi- of those who hold the truth, or else de- 
rit, produced this precious or pure faith, fame them by all possible means.) Ben- 
and accompanied by and producing this" jamin desolated and his cities burnt. 
blessed heaven-like train; which like a gin- j In short, then; in answer to the ques- 
rious stream flowing from the throne of tions proposed, I answer, let the pure 
pod and the Lamb, watering, cleansing, ! word of God he preached; pray and wail 
vivifying, and inclining all to heaven; till the spirit accompanying it shall pro- 
and then flowed back in anthems of prai- 1 dnce a true and lively faith, with its fruits 
ges to God and tho Lamb, (not conven- 1 and testimonies. Keep strictly to the 



word of God, the law of Christ. Maintain hear from us here in this section of coun- 
the church with all her graces., I;y strict try in religious matters; though it. is grie- 
gospel discipline, and all those little bands, yqiis to relate that there are but few novv- 
societies, combinations, confederations, and a-days tha.l say, like the apostle Paul did, 
false and childish pleas for money, will be ! great is the mystery of godliness. And, 
just as useless as stars at noon day. (If this \ there are very few among us in the low- 
is not so we vvish tq be shown better.) . er parts of the country, especially on the 
The church will then shine in her primi- sea shore, that cry out, greqt is i\}e love of 
tive beauty, her strength, exert her I our Lord Jesus Christ; though to the ad- 
jnflqence, conquer her foes, win over ene- verse it appears there are an innumerable 
mies, triumph in redeeming grace, and glq- host qf them that cry out like the Ephesi- 
rify her head. ans of old, great is the goddess Diana. 

And now may the Lord of his free grace And when we come to take a full view of 
and covenant mercy enlighten our eyes, the case, it appears the god that they dq 
open our understandings to receive his worship, is self, self-applause, self-admira- 
word, possess faith, Ipve and praise Gqd tion, and self-exaltation, whom our Lord 
pur Saviour now and evermore. Amen. 

So prays thy unworthy servant. 




This number has been somewhat delay- 
ed in cqnsequence of the detention of our 
printing paper, by the severity of the win- 
ter at the North and by being quarantined can see some symptoms of self-preferment 
on account of the Small Pox in Washing among them;- but I am not to judge, yet 

and Saviour Jesus Christ calls hypocrites; 
and says that, they are like unto whitened 
Sepulchres, that appear outwardly beautiful 
but within are full of all ma,nner of un- 
cleanness. Now, Jesus says, he that exalts 
himself shall be debased; but he who hum- 
bles qimself shall be exalted. 

Now, dear brethren, the Old School or 
Primitive Baptists appear to bean humble 
people, though I feel awfully afraid that I 

ton. We will now soqn bring up arrears. 


every tree is to be known by the fruit it 
bears. Let us look at those who cry out, 
great is the goddess Diana; and see if we 
can what they are doing. Why they are 
fighting, and seeking law power one over 
another. Brethren, what kind of religion 
is that? Can they say with the apostle 
Paul, the love of Christ constrains them tq 
that? I think not, though I heard some of 

Wilmington, New Hanover Co., \ 
23rd of January, 1S46. > 

Dearly bkloved brethren, if I may 
be permitted to call yqu by that appella- 
tion; for I do feel myself s.o unworthy 

when I look at my own imperfections and the missionaries swear in our last County 

sinful nature, and more particularly at my Court, that when a, man or woman vyas ta- 

practice, it puts m e out of conceit of ever ken under dealing by the church, they 

being a child of grace; though thank the were discredited and ought not to be be- 

Lord I am what I a^m: for if it was his lieved on their oaths. My God, dear 

wish for me to have been otherwise it brethren, how far will antichrist tread on 

would be so, and I must be content in thje our liberty, wherewith Christ has made us, 

situation it has pleased the Lord to place free? I think that I can see, if I can't ex- 

m,e in. * plain. Suppose I or any other member 

Beloved brethren in the Lord, excuse was turned out of the church, does that 
me for I wrote a letter to send ypu some | hinder us from sweating to the truth? I 

time in November last, though I have been 
hindered from sending it to yqu; but 
l\ always was my wish that you could 

think not. It is law power they are after, 
for this reason; if there is any one that 
will not partake of their deteatahle things^ 




they shall be turned out and shall not be , that felt themselves sinners, this is the all 
allowed their oath in any case. | Spoken of here, and this all wanted to 

I must close my scribbling remarks and hear And so ft is yet, when a' mam 
return my humble thanks to the publisher, ' feels himself a sinner, he then wants to 
for his kind and indulgent attention to me hear what Christ has to say; for then he 
in forwarding the Primitive; for I delight has an understanding heart, for he under- 
much in them, for they are food to my j stands that he is a sinner; then he has" a' 
Soul. So no more at present but remain hearing ear, for that waS the Situation of all 
youi friend and brother in tribulation, and those publicans and sinners that wished i8 

in hope of the glory of the Lord. 



Pittsylvania cnhii/i/. P'a. 
teb \>lk. 1-46. 

Bear Brethren and Sisters of the 
Apostolic faith and order: Grace, peace and 
truth be multiplied unto ycfu by God the 
Father, through sanc'tiftcation of the Spi- 
rit and by the Lord Jesus Christ. 

Dearly beloved, it is by the goodness of 
God that I am permitted to let you hear 
from me again, in my imperfect manner of 
writing; but, I will do' gs well aS I can. 
But, my principal objectjs to let you ail 
hear from me, hoping at the same time 
you all will writ* more or oftener. 

I see a letter from brother R. W. Hill, 
which I was glad to see; and I say to him, 
I should be still glader to see him at our 
Association in the spring, which commen- 
ces on Friday before the last Sunday in 

I will now notice the 15 ch. of Luke, 
and give you some of ray views on this 
chapter, or the first part of it; and will not 
advance one idea 1 but what will accord 
with the whole chapter, if God will aid 
me. And in the first place, I wish to 
shew that there is a difference between the 
sinner and pharisee. See the first verse: 
Then drew near untohim all the publicans 
and sinners for to hear him. Here we see 
that all the sinners drew near Christ, and 
to hear him. Now we will not believe 
that this all means every body, as the Ar- 
minians say it does, for they say all don't 
spell part; no, but it spells all the people 
that the apostle was talking about, and no 
mora. And here be was talking about all 

hear Christ, and God alone gives the 
hearing ear and the understanding heart. 

But we will notice the 2nd verse: Arid 
the Pharisees and ScribeS murmured, say- 
ing, this man receiveth sinners and eatetH 
with them. Here we see a vas*t difference' 
between the sinner arid Pharisee. The' 
sinner wished to hear Christ, and the Pha- 
risee murmured at Christ and said, Christ 
eat with sinners; and by so saying they 
denied that they were sinners. Then they 
the Pharisees had no need of Christ, Stf 
they had no ear to hear him; but they htfd 
ears and heard riot, hearts and understoc/a 
not; for Cod had not given them the hear- 
ing ear nor the understanding heart. So 
they are the characters that Christ meant 
when he said, the whole need not a' physi- 
cian, but they that are sick. Tho'se phari- 
seeS had no use for the great physician o£ 
souls, because they were not sinners, a\id 
murmured at him for eatfng with them. 
And so it is yet, for we see some of 'the 
Same bretjd of dogs in this day, and they 
will kill sheep and suck eggs Vet,and say,- 
Christians ought riot to or en- 
courage a man to any thinr, that will drlhk 
strong drink. So they are just like the 
Pharisees of old, and will say, thanirGod t 
am not like this poor publican, for I Want 
to see every one put t.o and help on With 
the Redeemer's kingdom, hy quitting the 
use of strong drink, and wine, and all Such, 
and give his money to advance the Redee- 
mer's kingdom, or to send preachers to the 
heathen; and then they will say, see there 
is a friend to publicans and sinners, for he 
eats and drinks with them. This they say 
of us, like the old sheep-killing set d'idj 
hence they are all the same breed of dog^ 
and Peter calls them greedy dogs; and you 
know my friends those kind of dogs %t% 



very apt to kill sheep and suck eggs. And 
I believe thai they have got worse than 
the old ones, for I read thrift the ddceivers 
or seducers shall wax Worse and worse, 
hence they are worse than th'e oil 6nes". 

'We now come to the 4th verse, which 
begins the parable of a man having sheep: 
and says, what man having a hundred 
sheep, if he lose one of- them doth not leave 
the ninety and nine in the wilderness and 
goeth after that which is lost until he find 
it. 5th verse, when he hath found it he 
layeth iton his shoulders rejoicing, Now 
we Will notice some part of this parable, as 
all would be too length}'' for in}' sheet, or 
time, or sense. Bui Christ is the good 
shepherd of his sheep or church, then 
Christ is the spiritual shepherd. Then the 
4th verse— -what man having a hundred 
sheep. Now we" see this man has a hun- 
dred, then they are his, and not if he can 
get them, as the A'rminian's say. no, 
for one hundred are his and he gets them. 
Now we wijl see how this'.snepherd or 
man getS.his sheep. Yes, he hunts' them; 
for he leaves ninety and nine in the wil- 
perness and goeth after the one that is lost. 
Here we see the shepherd goeth after the 
sheep, and he finds" it. But our Afmitir- 
ans are wrong in this matter, for they 
send the sheep to hunt the shepherd; for 
we hear them "tell the people 'to go to 
Christ, come to Jesus' else 'yfcu will •'be 
damned. Here we see the poor souls have 
started wrong, and it will end wrong for 
them, unless Christ seeks them and 
brings them out of the wilderness of sin. 
For' they are there, or they would not send 
the sheep to hunt the' shepherd; no, they 
would not, but they -would tell the shc-p. 
you'are lost and will be damned there un- 
less Jesus brings you from there. From 
where? savsome. Why from the wilder- 
ness of siim How does Jesus bring them? 
why by sending the Holy' Ghost after 
them to bring them out. And it never 
fails" doing what Christ/wants done; so he 
bringsth'em all to Christ and not one is 
lost, so he has the hundred. 

See the 5th verse says, when he hath 
found it, he layeth it the sheep on his 

shoulders. Here we see that the Armini-" 
ans are wrong again, for we see them toling 
and trying to get them into the straw pen 
to catch them; but the good shepherd goes 
and finds the sheep arid lays it on his 
shoulders, and we hear not a word about 
his toling or begging it to go' with him, or 
his fixing a strawpen to catch it; no, but 
he the shepherd goes after that which is' 
lost, until he finds it the sheep and lays it 
on his shoulder and brings it in, and re 
joiceth- — not because the sheep came, no,' 
but because he hath found it. Hence we 
see it is the business of Christ to hunt his' 
sheep, and not the business of his sheep to' 
hunt him while they are lost; for they are 
blind, deaf, and dumb, until Jesus finds 
them by the Holy Ghost, and quickenV 
them into life; and then they can hear ah'd 
understand him, and then he tells* them 
seek and-ye shall find. Now they are ca- 
pable of seeking, and the promisee is, seek 
and ye shall find; not may find if thus or 
so is done, no, but shall find. God bless' 
you all. Amen. 

Dear brethren^ F hope you will riot for-' 
sake bur paper, the Primitive; for fas one 
wish to take it still, though some worldly 
wi'Se men do say it is not worth one cent.' 
No odds, for they are only like their fath- 
er the devil, and do not like the truth. So' 
nothing more atpresent, but as ever youV 
unworthy brother; So farewell; 


We have received the first No. of "The 
Regular Baptist," edited by Elder Sheltbh 1 
J. .'Lowe, and published at Weston, Mis- 
souri. We extract ffom it the following. 


In presenting the first number of the 
"Regular Baptist, it will be expected by our 
rea le'rs that we will give an outline of the 
er of the paper, and also the pros- 
pects' before us. In reference to our peri- 
oliral, bur prospectus has been before the 
public, and from the same, the pub- 
lic no doubt is apprised of the doc- 
trinal sentiments that will be advoca- 
ted and defended to the' best' 6t dor 



FOli THE primitive baptist. 

ability. Wc will give xi few prominent true believers. 7lh. Good works are ne- 
items which we hold Sabred and abnndarit- cessary.and are fruits of the spirit, and fol- 
ly proven by the Scriptures of eternal low regeneiation, and in this respect are 
truth. 1st. -That God the gEeataiid glo- evidences of a gracious state. 8ih. Baptism 
rious object of al! religious worship, is 'Fa- and the Lord's supper die ordinances in 
ther. Son and Holy Ghost, and yet but the house of God, regenerated believers 
one God, and (hat he is Almighty, allwise, are the subjects, &c. The above points 
eternal and immutable in all his divine . we shall, to the best of our ability, in the" 
perfection — who works all things after the spirit of the Gospel defend.' 
council of his own will. 2d. That mdn 
was created a good natural man, but not 
Spiritual; that man in his creative relation 
was not fit for Heaven nor Hell— he being Appointment!? for Rider Parfiam Puc- 
riatur'al, He was capacitated to enjoy an kett. 

earthly Paradise, but not a spiritual one. A P ril 22 > nt R ' ,s e of Sharon; 24th, at 
Bo long as Adam remained innocent, te^^'S 25, b, at Great Swamp: 26th, 
®1-- , , .. .,,.-. at Flat Swamp; 27th, at Spring Greed: 

was not fit for he.l-m tms . npsetti* state, L g!h> ;i| !5ei! ^,. ass . 29(h , at S K g f ,^ af . kry . 

there was a harmony existing between the. ^ ay | st< al MotyVdctij &d, at White 
■creature and the law, and so long as mattjcba'pe); afc,l, at Concord; 4ih, at Liver- 
refrained from doing, innocency was his | mans; 6h. U Gum Neck; 7ih, at Belhle- 
condition — but the doing act became the ' ht-ni ; *fh\ *< Sound Side; 9th, art Ange- 
Sin. The old serpent, the devil, deceived j le . v% ; 'Oh and 11th, at Concord; I2tb,a't 
,. , ' ".' . c „ ..White Chapel; 1 3th, at Morattock; 15th,- 

the woman but the man was not. So it ; . ■ , . ,. ' ,_' , ... , ' • 

. ' . , , | m Washington; 1 7 < n, at Blount s Creek; 

requires the mfiuence of the enemy, and j !Slh ;il win, ford's; l9ih,at Swift Crfeefc. 
the consent of the man, and these two con- ; t!ll |y 9lh< a , Tison's m. h.; I lib, at In- 

stituted the main spring to -action; the re- [ b< 

12th. al LafwFehcfeV; i 3th, at Deep 1 

suit of the transgression was d-eath, that, ("reek; l'4ih, at Kt'hukpe; 16ah, at Joiner's 
men by nature are dead in trespasses and ( l'ap>l; 1 9th.: and | 9 h, at South Quay; 
sins, destitute of power or will, and conse- 
quently, could only be saved by the free, 
sovereign, unmerited . grace of God in 
Christ Jesus the Lord. 3d. That the 
elect of God, the bridcyfhe lamb's wife was 
chosen in Christ before the world began, 
and was predestinated in time to obtain sal- 
vation by Jesus Christ the Lord, . and in 
time will be called .by his grace & renewed 
by his spirit or born again. 4th. The in- 
stitutions of the day under the general class 
of benevolence, unconnected with the 
ehurchare unauthorized by the Bible, and 
are therefore the fruitful source of strife 
and contention. 5th. The .atonement is 
definite, Christ being related t£ his church 
as head, husband, surety and shepherd, 
sho'Ws his legal right' to ■ suffer for her and 
God the Father remain just in the justifica- 
tion of his people for what Christ is to her, 
what Christ has done for her by the im- 
plantation of his divine nature. Gth. The 
final perseverance and certain salvation of 

21 'si, at Joiner's Chapel; 23fd, at Log Cha- 
pe!; 24' h, ai Cross Hoods; 25lh, at Cone- 
to: 2fMi; at Great! Swamp 

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North Carolina. C.B.Hasself, .WillitiHtstttn 
<i. M. G. Moore, German/on. W. w. M'l^'W, Ply- 
mouth. B'enji ' Bynum, Ni/hiinta Depot < H.Ave- 
ra, Averasboro'. Burwell Temple, Raleigh. Thosi- 
•Bagley,' Smith field. James H. Sas^r, Waynes- 
bnru\ L. B'i Bennett, Heathville. Cor's Oana-" 
day, Cruve-nsville William' Welch, Abbott's 
Crecki Ai Bi Bains, Jr.i Stanhope. C. T. Saw-" 
yer, Powell's? Point. H. W ilkerson, West Point. J'.- 
Miller, Milton Park. Isaac Meekins and Samuel' 
Rogers, Columbia, Wm/ Mr Rushing, While's- 
Stoie. .lames H.Smirh, Wilmington, Jacob Her-' 
ring, Goldsboro', Si Taturrr. Elizabeth City, Ad» 
am Hooker, Salem,- Church, Abner Lamb, Carti^ 
dtn C. H, 

South Carolina. Win. S. Shaw, Hock Mitts 
W„ B. Villard, Sr. Aiken. M.McGraw, Brown's. 
J. Li Simpson, Winnsboro' , i, G, Bowers', Whip- 
py Sw<iinp,- Wiii! Nelson, Camden, Gi Mat 
thews, Germanville. J. C. Lucas, Lexington C, H. 

Georgia. John McKenney, Forsyth. Thomas 
Amis, Lexington. John M. Field, Macon. John 
W. Turner, Pleasant Hill. Wlliam Trice and 
William D.Taylor, Thomaston. Ezra .M<:Crary 



Wnrrtnton. Prior Lewis, Thomasville. J, Las- 
tetter, Vernon. Ahner Durham, Greenville, Geo. 
Leeves, Milltdgtville. W.J.Parker, Chenuba. J, P. 
Ellis, Pinevil/e. F. Haggard. .^Me/is. A.M iThomp- 
son, Fort Valley. Daniel O'Neel,0//«eG'-we. Jonn 
Wayne, Cain's, R. S. Ham rick, Car/ o/l/on. D. 
Smith, Coo/ Spring Moses H. Denman, Marietta 
Jetliro Gates, Mulberry tiruve. Is ham Edwards, 
Marion. Joseph Daniel, Fish's. R, L. Hayne, 
Lebanon. T. w. Dearing, Cotton River. E. Davis, 
Cmn #j//» 

Alabama. . A.Keaton,.fi</nionr'. FLDance and 
W. Bizzell, Eutaw. . E.Bell, Liberty Hill. L 
G.Walker, Milton. H. VV illiams, Havana, J. 
Daniel, Claiborne, E. Daniel, Church, Hill, I. 
Carpenter, Sr. Clintoi/, .1. McQueen, Lowndesboxo' . 
Yfrti.'V?i\Uy,MountMoria/i, B UpchurcrV, /?e/?e- 
no/a. Si Hamrick. Plante.a Hie. James S. Mor- 
gan,' Dayton. Rufus Daniel, Janw-ton, Joel Hi 
Cha'rhblcss, Loweville. F. Pickett, China Grove, 
John w. Pellum, Franklin, John Harrell, i*/'-v. 
?euri. Jnfti. Thomas, Gainer's Store. E. Mi Am- 
nios, Midway Allen Moore, Intercourse, John 
Bryan, Sr. Fuller >vil/e,. Benj Lloyd, Wttumpl a 
N. tf.Barmore, Mill Perl, A Hailey, Pintliku 
Vincent Williams, Mobile. Young Smith. Eufau- 
la. T. J. Foster, Dell's Landing. Henry C a sort. 
Monticeilo... Henry Petty,' PickensviHr. D.-.R. 
P. King,' PainesviWe. John whitehead, Jr. Plea- 
sant Mains. M. W. Helms, Bridget). lie. Elly 
Bi Turner, Mbevihe, Thomas Townsend, Fort- 
land, Rohert Grady, Bluff Port. U. R.Thou p- 
sou, t&entrevitle, James F. Wit*on,\-Genfi)d, 

Tennessee Michael Hurkhalter, Jasper, Wnt. 
Croorh, Jiickson. Solomon Ruth, Wesley. , fra Ei 
Douthil, Lynchburg, lifo. Turner. fl'orerlu. 
Henry Randolph. Snudi/sville. Pleasant A Wit:. 
Russtfville, William Me'Bm, Old Town Creek, 
A. Burroughs, Moore's X Roods, lames Shelton. 
Porlersville- Shad.rach Mustain, iLewisburg, Na- 
than SV McDowell. Tazewell, Henry Turner, Fay- 
ettevllle. Isaac Moore, li'iplcy, 

Mississippi*. Wnliam Huddlestnn and Ed- 
mui.d Beeman, Thomas/on. Simpson Parks and 
.Samuel Canterherry, Lexington, John S« Daniel, 
Co/ton Gin Port. Mark Prewett, Aberdeen, 
Wm. Davis, Houston. C. N*ic :bbls, ,St uinj> Hridgi . 
Wooten Hill, Cobksx$lU> Johri Davidson. 'W 
ofltun. Thomas Mathews, Black Hawk. 
I pp Beatie's Bluff, James T. S. Cockerham. 
Crub Sh' r ^ n S s ' •' ames Cxdw\py , Ming h omit. Jos. 
Edwards, N'tr Albany. Thomas Q, Hunt, Mc 
I eod'i John Halhert, Nashville. Wilson Hunt, 
Stewart's, John Seal lorn. Pleasant Mount. Jnhn 
Ki n rl artf, Daley's X lloads. K. B. Stalling*, De- 

" FtdifttiA. r'Tartwell Watkjns, Monticeilo, Lew- 
is Tucker, CampbelUon. - - 

Louisiana. Thos Paxtbri, Greensboro . .las. 
Peikins and Needham Uowafrl, Big woods. L. 
G. McGaiighey, Ballieu's Ferry'. Benjamin Gar- 
lington, Mgreet. '/ 

Arkansas. John Hart, Saline, Geo>ge w, 
Rogers, Arkadelphia,: i\ B. Landers, Union C.H. 
J, M. Ci Robertson, Foster's, Jonn I lonea, Ozark, 

Missouri: John P. McDowell, New Market, 

Illinois. John Alsbury, Lick Creek. 

Indiana, wilson Connar, Co\umbia, 

Ohio. John B. Moses, Germanton. 

Kentucky. Washngton Watts, Cornelius- 
vilk. Le'i Lancaster, Canton, Skeltcra R&ofro, 

Cumberland Ford. Tandy James, Somerset, Isaac 
Horn, Rome. 

Virginia. Rudolph Rorer,2?ergrr'.» Store. Wrc- 
w. West, IVhentley. William Burns, Davis* 
Mills, Jesse Larikford..fiott>er.s\»i A. Rorer. Edge- 
kill Thomas Flipnen- Laurel Giove. Thomas, 
w Walton, Pleasant Gap. Levi Bishop, Sinelair't 

Pennsylvania. Joseph Hughes, Gum 7V«.' 
New York. Gilbert Ueebe, New Vernon. 

Enoch Bell, 
.1 Fruit, 
Jacob Hooks, 
John Hart, 
Isnbh Harbour, 
Nathan Ti'm>, 
*\ m. West, 
Luke Hayuie, 
Josiah Rice, 
hs'-c La ii k lor d,' 
M Jacoh^ 
D.iniel Uozi^r, 
(;. B llas^ll, 
Jos ; D t i£i,s, 
A Ktaloi',' 
I'. I\ Green, 

.1 M. "»|ifticer, 
JiW s. Ha lie, 
\> Q. ()l.ha.i^ 
Kla'it Stniih', 
(i . Matthew.*, 
W,„. Il.nlx, 
A .' Mi'(»i;i>\ , 

G. Hi I'.itt- isnn, 
.lami 's Brunvn, 
VljiMhew Y 'ies, 
H. (> >rln .jfiunV 
-an')", I ■MJif'h. 
.1. II. Karii-ev, 
.1. V\ . Kil'hiiuis, 
.).*-. Murray, 
Saiah Mu'i;u, 
Ft- (1. r'icKeVi, 
.fanii) V. Little. 
Isinc Me- kms, 
(i.en. I ii i, in- r. 
T. W. Wa|i„ n . 
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lsa»c mirkhalter, l 
I.I i ray & H Hjiiri?,!. 
James Pf>rkinJ, 5 ; 
VV." M Ru.-hing, 5' 
Vines ^ruith, 2'. 

Joseph Lloyd, 3 

\i. >. W 1 mbe ile j," 1^ 
Alfred Lovve, 
Hlaton L^e, 
John G;<ston, 
Ey Holland. 
VN to. P. Johnson, 
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Gen. ('rosov. y 
Wm Powvll, 5^ 

W. jyf, >j'a1nian, l' 
L. I*. "Manton. 1 1 

Vincent V\ illia'm.*,' lL 
Jubil CmpHiiier, 5* 
•l.o«e|)h I'tii^peh, I 
E. Medley. I 1 

Ahrahani Hea'inon, 2 
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\(.(\ iV.rvey. 
P 11 rot \'e>vberri, "SJ;' 
I hnma- Price, 2" 

.lo-iah Ganli er, 1, 
Jacob Her'iinjjfi 4 

Henry .1 asonl 5 

J oho BioinUfreet, I 
*«, ''I'atom,' 5 

VV il.son ('oiiner. 2 

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V0L. II. SATURDAY, APRIL 4, 1846, No. 4. 



thors of innumerable evils." Have we not 
borne and do we not bear the above title? 
"It cannot be then, but Ishmael must per- 
secute Isaac. Whoso will not suffer 
the persecution of Ishmael, let him not 
profess himself to be a Christian." Does 

Tazewell, Tennessee, 

Dec'r S/A, 1845. 

Dear Brethren: I am by writing as 1 1 no t Ishmael, or those that hold to the 
am by preaching, I often think I will nei- works of the law, or creature ability in part 
ther write nor preach any more; but view- or whole for justification, persecute the 
ing the deceptive measures used to invei- Baptists whether they are the son of the 
gle the church and allure the world, in f ree woman or not? I can say from my 
order to get them to worship the image of heart with Luther, let every one that can- 
the beast, now being set up— and having nol bear the persecution of Ishmael not 
as I sometimes hope, a love to the truth pro fess to be a Baptist, for he will either 
and a hatred to every false way, I have be persecuted by Ishmael, or be disliked 
again concluded to write a few more pieces by the Baptists. 

for publication; making quotations from But says he, "was not the whole world 
Luther's Life and Commentary by Scho- J n an uproar, and yet the gospel was not 
nucker, that the readers of the Primitive the cause hereof, which Christ and his 
may judge whether or not we are op- apostles preached for the profit and salva- 
posing the same principles in substance tion of men, and not for their destruction, 
which he opposed. [ But these things followed through the ini- 

"Whosoever," saysLuther/'are born and ' qi] j ty of the people, the nations, the kings 
live in Christ and rejoice in this birth, have an d princes, who being possessed of the 
Ishmael for their enemy and persecutor, devil, would not hearken to the word of 
Verily it is no small grief unto us, when grace, life, and eternal salvation; but de- 
we are constrained to hear that all things tested and condemned it as a doctrine 
were in peace and tranquility before the m0 st pernicious and hurtful to religion and 
gospel came abroad; but since the preach- . common weal." Is not the whole nation 
ing and publishing thereof, all things are ■ no w in an uproar? was it not in an uproar 
unquiet." Have we not been constrained ' w hen the old churches, as says Benedict, 
to hear, that we were the cause of the divi- 1 "pretty uniformly held to the Gillite plan, 

sion, and that now we are the cause of con- 
fusion, distress, &c. in the churches? 
But, says he, "The faithful must bear this 
name and this title in the world, that they 
are seditious, and schismatics, and the au- 

viz: that Christ in his stupendous suffer- 
ings made provision for none but the elect 
only?" Was it not in an uproar when 
Christ preached and asserted his divine 
sovereignty, when Paul preached it at Ath- 



ens and other places? Did not the uproar 
begin to subside as the old churches de- 
parted from the above doctrine? Did it 
not almost entirely cease when the Bap- 
tists united on compromise instead of prin- 
ciples, and after the Baptist churches had 
adopted almost every doctrine, or at least 
held it among them, and had commenced 
uniting with unscripiural institutions, and 
using unscripiural means for the spread of 
the gospel, for qualifying the ministry, 
and for carrying on and carrying out mo- 
rality, benevolence, philanthropy, &c. But 

nay rather they maintain the Lord's cav$<?> 
defend his glory, &c. Moreover the doc- 
trine for the which they raise up such tu- 
mults and offences, is not ours, but it is the 
doctrine of Christ. This doctrine we can- 
not deny nor forsake the defence thereof, 
seeing Christ saith, whosoever shall be 
ashamed of me, &c. He therefore that 
will preach Christ truly, and confess him 
to be our righteousness, must be content to 
hear that he is a pernicious- fellow and that 
he troubleth ell things." 

If Luther bad been describing what is 

when the Lord's time rolled on that his! now in the world, he could not have deli- 
church should be untrammelled with man's, nested it more precisely. But there are 
inventions and doctrines of devils, then! two spirits at least since Adam's day till 
the ''Still small voice" began to whisper to' now, both have had their subjects, they 
God's faithful ministers to come out, and' have been opposed to each other, so have 
at lengih the happy period arrived when 1 their subjects beerr opposed one to the oth- 
in different places his people came out, and J er. "If 1 speak," says Luther, "the pope 
salvation by grace alone is now and has cruelly rageth." Is not this the case with 
been for some time preached in Baptist' numbers of us. If the pope does not rage, 
meeting houses. And though there is an the same principle rages. Let all examine 
uproar again as has always been the case j whether they love Chiist, or fame, of 
when the sovereignty of God, &c. has ! peace, or ease in the world best. I may be 
alone been preached. Yet the churches! mistaken, but if there is any place of ease 
>'re generally in union, though there is anj or peace only in Christ, I know it not. Or 
appearance of seets arising, as is generally if there be any period of life that we are to 

the case when the true gospel is preached. 
"Snsh tumults and hurly burlies," says he, 

forsake the defence of the trulh^ to cease 
lighting the battles of the Lord, to receive 

"we hear and see at this day. The adver- a (lag of truce, or agree to an armistice, 

saries lay the fault in our doctrine." Is it 
not the case now? 

But, says Luther, '*the doctrine of grace 
and of peace, si irreth not up these troubles, 
hut the people. &e. (as the Psalmist sailh) 
rage and murmur, conspire and take coun- 
sel, (not against us, as they think, nor 
against our doctrine which they blaspheme 
as faLa and seditious,) but against the Lord 
and his anointed. Let them therefore cry 
out as lontf as they list, that we raise tip! should preach that whieh the prince of this- 
these tumults and seditions; notwithstand- 
ing this Psalm comfoitelh us. and sailh 

have not arrived tothat period. Paul gave 
place by subjection no not for an hour, and! 
said, I have fought a good fight, I have fin- 
ished my course, 1 have kept the faith. 
He did not say,. I am too weak, too igno- 
rant, too young, or too old to fight; but 
said, 1 have fought a good fight, 1 have 
finished my course. 

Luther is opposed to the offence of the 
cross being removed, and says, "if we 

world and his members should gladly hear, 

that is to say the righteousness of works y 

that they themselves are the authors of then should we have a gentle devil, a fa- 

these t?oubles. They cannot believe this, 
and much less can they believe that it is 
they which murmur, rise up, and take 
C»un»*d against the Lord and his anointed: 

vorable world, a gracious pope, and merci- 
ful princes." Is it not so now? Were we- 
to cajole the devil a little, he would be gen- 
tle, were we to flatter antichrist a little,, he 



would be gracious enr/ugh to persecute but 
little; were we to let alone and not con- 
demn the god of the world, or the world's 
saviour, viz: justification by works, l be 
d eeds of the law, or partly by creature ef- 
fort, or grace being given because we obey 
or yield, &c or withheld because we diso- 
bey and fefuscj then would we have a fa- 
vorable world 

Luther says, "it (the gospel) sbewelh 
that all worshippings, religious orders in- 
tented by men, and traditions concerning 
single life!, meal.<, and such other things, 
whereby men think to deserve forgiveness 
of sins and everlasting life, are wicked 
things and devilish doctrine. " It matters 
fiot what kind of worship, or what kind of j 
works, if men think to deserve forgiveness 
by or for them, it is wickedness, it is blas- 
phemy, it is a devilish doctrine; for it sets 
aside the true worship of God ; it denies the 

work, merit, ind righteousness of the Son 

of God; ii rejects grace, imputed righte- [ 

ousness, and the blood and intercession of; 
the Lord Jesus Christ} it denies satisfac- 
tion by the blood of the cross; it rejects a 
Saviour, and denies redemption by the 
blood of Christ} denies the holiness and in- 
finite demands of the law, and the justice 
of God; rejects his mercy, sets up a gov- 
ernment, a plan, and a worship/ in opposi- 
tion to God. Of creatures and rebels -it 
makes them to be equals to a creator and 
sovereign, and denies' the prerogative of 
Jehovah, and rep-udiates all law and all 
punishment, only such as are in accordance 
with the act of the creature and his notion 
of right and wrong,- of justice and injustice; 
denies original guilt, or total depravity, or 
being sinners by nature; and establishes 
Semi-Pelagiaaisrn, and brings God to be. 
indebted to them when they may have 
done" all they could, and arraigns his justice 
if he does not forgive them for what they 
call sincere endeavors. Rebellion, blind- 
ness, and depravuy of ihe human heart, to 
what hast thou not led Adam's fallen pro- 

You may preach against sin in man in 

general and offend probably but few, but 
if you preach against his works, against his 
ability to per form them, against his filthy 
rag righteousness, against his wicked heart 
and his idolatry in cleaving to the law, de- 
pending on the ministry, leaning upon 
creature effort or his own obedience, &c. 
you touch his god, and if you strip him of 
the<e you lake away his god, and with it all 
his hope of salvation'. No wonder he is 
mad, no wonder the devil rages, no won- 
der Ins agents speak evil of you, and per- 
secute you, because you unmask their god, 
and show him to be the god of this world. 
Now they rail and try to hide him from 
view, and to clothe him so that he may ap- 
pear an angel of light and of mercy; and 
speak of your God as an austere man, reap- 
ing where he never sowed, &c. If you really 
could get the world to see this God as he is* 
money getting by preaching would be at 
an end, theological seminaries would fall to 
the ground, preachers taught by man, 
called by the devil, or prompted to preach 
through the pride of their hearts for money 
or worldly fame, would have to follow 
some honest employment to make a living. 
I say then no wonder they oppose, when 
you are about to bring to light their false 
system, and expose their god to public 
gaze; for you are about to deprive them of 
their power, you are about to endanger 
their craft and destroy their gain, by strip- 
ping the garb from their god, (universal 
charity or benevolence.) by which an ava- 
ricious priesthood will be exhibited, in- 
stead of a system of benevolence. 

Had Luther lived at this day, he could 
not have described the religious of this age 
better; for says he, '-There are very many 
at this day which pretend great religion, 
modesty,- doctrine- and patience, and yet in 
very deed they are ravening wolves, who 
with their hypocrisy seek nothing else but 
to discredit us, that the people might es- 
teem, love, and reverence them only, and 
receive no other doctrine but theirs." Are 
there not numbers now in the world so full 
of patience, modesty, meekness and reli- 



£ion of some sort, that you can't move 
them; they will love you, they will fel 
lowship you, &c. when with you, hut so 
soon as opportunity serves, endeavor to 
discredit you, speaking every thing hard 
against you and your doctrine that com- 
mon decency will permit; and appear 
among the people, not as an humble, 
cross-bearing, way faring soldier of the 
cross, weighted and bowed down with his 
own nothingness, the holiness of Jie cause 
in which he is embarked, the welfare of 
immortal souls, and the state of God's Zi 
on here below; but a.« a candidate election 
eering to gain the esteem of man. And 
instead of laboring to prove that salvation 
is entirely by grace through Christ, they 
are endeavoring to make the people be 
lieve it is by preaching and through the 
ministry; that is, that God is to be propi- 
tious to them by their obedience, and that 
they are to be reconciled to God through 
the instrumentality of preaching. 

Luther, speaking of the free woman and 
the bond woman and their teachers, says: 
"They therefore, that teach and set foith 
either the traditions of men or the law oi 
God as necessary to obtain righteousness 
belore God, do nothing else but gender 
servants. Notwithstanding such teachers 
are counted the best men, they obtain the 
favor of the world, and are most fruitful 
mothers, for they have an infinite number 
of disciples. Now because this righteous- 
ness shmeth and flourisheth every where, 
therefore it is a mighty empress of the 
whole world. They therefore which teach 
righteousness of works by the law, beget 
many children, which outwardly seem to 
be free, and have a glorious show of excel- 
lent virtues, but in conscience (or heart) 
they are servants and bond slaves of sin; 
therefore they are to be cast out of the 
house and condemned." 

Does not a law or creature effort reli- 
gion now shine? Are not the teachers 
thereof called the best of men? Do they 
not teach the traditions of men, by any 
and and all parts of their society, effort, or 

benevolent systems? Are they not fruif- 
ful mothers indeed? Do they not * •out- 
wardly seem to be free," and have they 
not a "glorious show of excellent virtues?'' 
'■Contrary wise, Sarah the free woman, that 
is to say, the church seemelh to be barren; 
lor the gospel which is the wofd of the 
cross and affliction, which the church 
preacheth, shineth not so brightly as the 
doctrine of the law and works, and there- 
lore she hath not so many disciples to 
cleave unto her; moreover she beareth this 
title that she forhiddeth good works, ma- 
keth men secure, idle, and negligent, rais* 
eth up heresies and seditions, and is the 
cause of all mischief." Is it not clear 
from scripture, that the doctrine, &c. of 
the church of God never has shone so 
brightlyto human sight, asthe opposite. Her 
religion is spiritual, and therefore not to 
be discerned by the world or natural man. 
The ceremonial parts of her worship are 
simple and few, and must be according to 
the patiern. And when great numbers of 
Baal's prophets were cutting themselves 
and crying aloud, Elijah stood alone and 
cried: "Hear me, Lord, hear me" — that 
this people may know that I am a great 
man or a prophet? qp; but — •'■that this 
people may know that thou art the Lord 
God, and that thou hast turned their 
hearts back again." They do not love 
salutations in the market places. They 
do not pray to be seen of men. They 
wish not to be seen of men as great men, 
but that the Saviour may be seen in them 
as a great Saviour, and that his work, &c. 
may shine in them, and that he may be 
seen and acknowledged by the world; 
therefore they do not call the attention of 
the people to hear their oratory, to believe 
in their preaching, or power, or goodness; 
but to behold the Lamb of God which ta. 
keth away the sin of the world, to believe 
in the Lord Jesus Christ. And as nature 
can't behold the Lamb of God, as she can- 
not believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, 
it is natural to believe in the benefit of 
woiks, and to see and believe in the righ- 



feousness of the same; far when a man 
quits any practice thro' his own strength, 
he then sees and believes he is getting bet- 
ter and more righteous; and if he has nev- 
er tried his strength, he believes lie can 
perform, and reform The practice in- 
deed may be in some degree reformed, 
while the heart remains untouched, and 
cold, and deceitful above all things and des- 
perately wicked; a cage of unclean birds 
truly. And therefore, as the work of grace 
js on and in the invisible and immaterial 
part, and by an invisible and spiritual 

prosperity, and to be full of barrenness;" 
and as she cuts I he sinner off of all hope in 
human effort, her doctrine appears to be 
full of "desolation and desperalion." 

But when antichrist can raise a flood of 
tears through sympathy or sorrow in treat- 
ing of the separjtion of friends, of moth- 
ers, and children, and of a persecuted son, 
or a daughter, and then speak of their 
meeting, and the reconciliation between 
father and son, or mother and daughter, 
by (he parents embracing religion, a shout 
may be raised. The world view this as 

agent, who there works unseen to mortal I the true gospel, because they can under- 

eye, the world cannot believe, only as 
wrought upon,- and must believe according 
to the evidence, faith, or the witnessing 
testimony of" God's holy spirit, or whatev- 
er evidence they may have; whether from 
God, the devil, or man, or their own car- 

according to the rule laid down by their 
leader or director, according to the teslimo- 

stand it; numberless disciples are made 
who embrace this sysiem because they* 
love it, because it is in accordance with 
their views of religion. The church is 
scoffed at because she doth not gain prose- 
lytes or disciples, and "therefore the wick- 

nal reason; and consequently will work ed are certainly persuaded that the church 

with her doctrine cannot long endure." 
Is not this the prediction respecting the 

ny given by it or him, as respects the way | Baptists? Has it not often been prayed 
to pleasure, happiness, toChrisl; or to escape, for, that they might come to nought? But 

hell, yet under the restraining power of Al- 
mighty God. And therefore according to 
this, the church has not so many discip'es 

this prayer will not prevail, for it is not 
made to God, nor in accordance with his. 
will. . Neither prayers put up to the god of 

to cleave unto her, as that society that ■, this world, nor the gates of hell will never 
preaches works, partly or wholly; and for | prevail against the church of God; lor she 
asmuch as she forbids or denies any works ! looks forth as the morning, fair as the 
to be good works, only those wrought in ! moon, clear as the san, and terrible as 
God and by him, and which are in accord- an army with banners. Jehovah is her 
ance with the scriptures, and flow from the strength, Christ is her Redeemer, builder, 
spirit of God, through faith, the world be- : and foundation.. The Lord God is a wall 
lieves that her doctrine ''makes men se- i around her, and Christ the stronger man 

cure, idle, and negligent." And as she op- 
poses every false way, they believe she 
raises up heresies and seditions;" and if 
she comes out from antichrislian doctrine 
or practice, and endeavors to draw away 
any of God's silly straying lambs from 
Babylon's embraces, and thereby shows 
the division heretofore existing, she is then 
6aid to be "the cause of all mischief." And 
as she preaches Christ the only way, whom 
no person who is in nature's darkness cares 
for, and for whom they have no love, her 
preaching »s,ems to bring no success or 

within her, by whose power she is kept 
through faith unto salvation.. She will 
therefore live because he lives, and will en- 
dure till the last trump shall call her home, 
'•to inherit the kingdom prepared for her 
from the foundation of the world." She 
will then enter into the joys of her Lord, 
and there enjoy the smiles of a loving Sa- 
viour for ever and ever. While those who 
hold to works for salvation, who say they 
have taught in his streets., who have "ca>t 
out devils in his name, and in his name 
have done many wonderful works," will 



then see what they have done, and the en<' 
or reward of their doing, by hearing th< 
irrevocable sentence, depart ye workers of 
iniquity, for 1 never knew you. Rejoice, 
barren, though you appear to bring no suc- 
cess or prosperity, vet God wjll bring you 
success and prosperity, and make vou more 
than conquerors through him (,h>t loved 
you. Though you appear to be barren and 
desolate, and to the e\ es of the world your 
condition in a desperate state, yet ■'■rejoice, 
for great isgyour reward in heaven Ra- 
chel is yet weeping and mourning for her 
children, because "they are not.'" ''They 
are not," inthe view of the world; and 
jnany we hope are, according to the elec- 
tion of grace, and vet are not, according 
to their knowledge of it, or the enjoyment 
of its blessing. 

Yet 1 thine eyes, Lord, see the sub- 
stance, the mystical body of Qhnst. In 
thy book all his members were written, 
when as yet there were none of them; but 
infcontinuance they will all be fashioned, 
growing up as cal peg of the stall, to the sta- 
ture of a man; for Ihey are "the fulness of 
him that filleth all in all." Rejoice, bar- 
ren, for more are the children of the deso- 

>ne that has power over all flesh, that cirt 
and will give eternal life to every one of 
them, to all the Father gave him. Though 
they are dead, yet "the dead shall hear the 
voice of I he Son of God, and they that 
hear shall live." The servants are sent out 
to Ivint i hem, and to blow the gospel trum- 
pet to call them in: and as they know not 
where ihey are, the great master will send 
them to the eity in which he has much 
people, or the desert where he ha^ but one 
poor lost child, as he did Philip to the Eu- 
nuch. Weep and mourn, Rachel, a moth- 
er will weep hr lost children; but do like 
Mary and Martha, go to Jesus, tell him 
your brother, your children are dead. Do 
not depend upon your weeping, mourning, 
or praying to awake t hem; do not depend 
upon the servants to bring them to life. 
The flesh profit eih nothing, it is the spirit 
that quickeneth Their life is in heaven, 
where it is certain to prevail, ami to bring 
all the dry bones of the valley togt-t her, 
and also to bring them to life and clothe 
ihem with a garment that will never wear 
out. a robe thai will never Fade. 

Therefore, '-rejoice thou barren that 
bearest not," thy husband will bring all 

Jate, &c. These children were given to ihy children to life, 

him in the covenant ordered in ail things 
and sure; and forasmuch as they are par 
takers of flesh and blood, he himself like 
wise took part of the same, that through 
death he might destroy him that had the 

bring or take 

them all home to dwell with thee and him 
lorever. Hold up your heads, ye children 
of the most high, the d v ay of your redemp- 
tion draweth near; vour husband and Fa- 
ther, though a stern judge against his ene- 

power of death, that is the devil, and deli- I mie«, is a loving husband, Father, friend, 
ver them who through fear of death were j and Saviour to you. Though you are here 
6ubject to bondage all their life time. " j among the pots, though you aie groaning 
He says, behold 1 and the children which over your imperfection, and are scofled at 

Cod hath given me. 'Therefore, whenev- 
er we behold him by faith, we view t tie 
church, his children, in union with him; 

hy the world and rejected of men, yet 
your Saviour is not ashamed lo call you 
brethren. When cast down in desponden- 

and though they are dead, yet power is cy on account of ynur imperfeciion. when 

given him over all flesh, that he should 
give eternal life to as many as the Father 
has given him. 

Now Rachel ma}' weep and mourn, for 
she cannot bring the children to life, she 
cannot produce conception ol them, she 
kuovys not wheie they are. Uul here is 

the devil is telling you that your Lord can- 
not behold sin with the least allowance, 
then recollect that your sins have gone be- 
fore to judgment; remember that they were 
laid upon your husband, thai he paid the 
last farthing for you, that you and your 
sins were so entwined around him, that 



you were crucified with him, that when he 
suffered he completely wiped away the 
hand writing of the law and nailed it to 
the cross for you; that he wa9 touched with 
a feeling; of your infirmities, and was in all 
points tempted as you were, yet without 
sin. And therefore all your sins were 
swallowed up by him, and in him; and 
justice being satisfied, your sins were laid 
on Jesus, and his merit and his righteous- 
ness imputed to you. Therefore you are 
accounted righteous because he is righte- 
ous, being one you cannot he righteous 
without him and his righteousness, nor can 
he have his fulness without you. You 
may change a thousand times, yet his love 
will never vary; you are neither made 
righteous, nor kept so, for your obedience, 
&c, but by his obedience you are made 
righteous. The world and the flesh may 
entice, the devil may roar to affright, but 
fear not; Judah's lion guards the way, he 
besets you before and behind, he is with 
you wherever you be. He does not love 
you because he redeemed and washed you, 
but he redeemed and washed you because 
he loved you; he does not preserve you 
because you love and serve him, but be- 
cause of his oath, &c. and his love to you. 
Therefore, you need not fear the image of 
the beast which is being set up in the 
land, "All these things must needs be, 
hut the end is not yet." 

Have you not enjoyed more happiness, 
(though you appear to bebarren,) since 
you CAME OUT, than you did for many 
years before? Suppose the world all loved 
you, and suppose that, they were to treat 
you more kindly than possible for human 
beings in this imperfect state to act, it 
would not give you peace of conscience or 
soul one moment; you might have a natu- 
ral peace, this would be all. And suppose 
again that you were an abandoned outcast 
from the society of men, and suppose all 
that saw you frowned on you. and punish- 
ed you with the most exquisite punish- 
ment, and then to add to these famine and 
a lingering and cruel death; you would 

care for none of these thing*, if Jesus Was 
in your view by faith as your Saviour, your 
friend, and your peace; with the bread of 
life to feast upon, and the love of God flow- 
ing in your soul, scoffs, reproaches, frowns, 
famine, peril, sword, or a lingering death, 
would be nothing more than chaff befoie 
you. You could sing the new song amidst 
all of these, and bid defiance to the world 
and to all the hosts of darkness, because 
you would then see and feel that greater is 
he that is in you, than he that is in the 
world, and that he had overcome the world 
and the hosts of hell,- and under this im- 
pulse you would see no beauties here, you 
would see nothing here to court your 

Brethren, you are now In the furnace of 
affliction, but it is only a few more days we 
have to remain here, a few more sorrows, 
pains, losses, crosses, doubis and fears, and 
I hope to meet you on Canaan's bright 
shore. I have my share of trouble, but 1 
don't wish to murmur, 1 don't want to be 
better situated than my master; 1 want to 
be willing to suffer all that his kind hand 
lays upon me. But proud rebellious being 
as I am, I can't be willing till he makes 
me so. Farewell. 

n. s. Mcdowell. 

P. S. On Saturday last I received the 
2nd No. of the Prim. vol. 1 1th, and in it 
found some interrogatories, I suppose on 
the following words relative to my own 
views and feelings respecting the making 
and use of intoxicating liquor. The words 
are as follows, viz: "Dear brethren, I have 
opposed every society not authorized by 
God's word; Bible, temperance, and 
drinking societies, and expect to oppose 
them while I live. I have not kept liquor 
about me only as medicine for the last fif- 
teen years. I never expect to keep it for 
any other purpose. 1 cannot conscien- 
tiously use it, nor encourage it as a bever- 
age. 1 cannot in conscience make nor sell 
it, because it was no part of the employ- 
ment of tho apostles, neither in my vL w js 



the practice any where sanctioned in 
God's word. If any dislike this, if they 
will put some questions in the Primitive. 
I will give my views in full." 

In this I implicated no person. I gave 
my own views and feelings, which honest- 
ly are as follows, viz: "That the word o( 
God in noplace authorizes or justifies any 

raphy school?" Answer. I cannot. 5th. 
"Did Christ make wine for the people to 
drink as a beverage, and did Christ 
use it as a beverage?" Answer. Christ 
made wine of water, and the ruler of the 
least tasted it. I do not recollect of any 
place in scripture that speaks of Christ 
iisi-ne it as a beverage. 6th. "Has not 

man, especially a preacher, in making, i that piece vindicated the temperance soci- 
vending, or using intoxicating liquor as a i ety cause, more than the Primitive Baptist 
beverage. In this I may be mistaken. If! cause?" This question does not particu- 

I am, I am honestly so. I know I am im- 
perfect, but I want the brother that inter- 
rogated me to answer as clearly and 
promptly the following question, as I will 
his in the conclusion of this. The ques- 
tion is, "Does any part of God's word au- 
thorizft or justify any Christian, and espe- 
cially a preacher of the gospel, in making, 
or selling, or using intoxicating liquor 
as a beverage?" If it does, I want him to 
cite to the scripture that authorizes or jus- 
tifies the practice, with his reason for be- 
lieving they justify or authorize it. Please 

larly belong to me to answer, as I wrote 
the piece alluded to, but I will give an an- 
swer. If the Primitive Baptist cause is, to 
make, sell, and drink liquor as a beverage, 
and the temperance society cause is to use 
it only as medicine, or sacramentally, then 
and in that case, the temperanee society 
cause was more vindicated than the Primi- 
tive Baptist cause; but I have not so un- 
derstood the Primitive Baptist cause, but 
have understood it. to be the cause of God 
and not the cause of liquor; and to contend 
for the faith once delivered to the saints, 

to answer this definitely, as 1 know you instead of contending for intoxicating li- 
are able to do it, if the scripture will sup- quor as a beverage. 

port you in it. If my opinion is wrong, I 
know the scripture will condemn it; and 
with the light that Br. Witt may be able 
to throw upon the subject, I hope to be 
able to see the true scriptural rule respect- 
ing the practice. I desire an immediate 
answer from the brother through the Pri- 

The questions proposed to me are as fol- 

n. s. Mcdowell. 




Gum Neck, Tyrrell county 
February 25, 1846. 
Brethren Editors: As it has been 
lows, 1st. "Which is the greatest sin, to sometime since you have heard from this 
make liquor and sell it, or buy it and section, and there appears to be no other 
drink it?" Answer. The principle of person that will write in this cause but my- 
each being the same, there would be no self in my neighborhood, and it becomes 
difference." 2nd. "How could you get it, my duty to make my little remittance for 
if it was not made?" Answer. I could our much esteemed little messenger the 
not. 3rd. Are we to do nothing of labor, Primitive paper, I will try and converse a 
but just the kind that the apostles did?" little with you, my strange brethren and 
Answer. We are not bound to follow ihe sisters at a far distance, whom I so highly 
same employment the apostles did to esteem in the Lord; though it should be in 
make a living, but may follow any honest a broken or awkward way, and I desire 
honorable employment, that has no ten- \ to be content in my situation, 
dency to lead us, our families, or neigh- j Dear brethren, the blessed Lord has of 
bors into vice, not thereby neglecting our late used the rod of correction on poor me 
professional duties. 4th. "Can you find for my disobedience, until I am much redu- 
where the apostles taught a singing geog- ced. I have often thought of you, my 



brethren writers in the Primitive, whether 
any of you ever felt the same rod or not; 
if not, try and live up to a discharge of 
your Christian duty, and you will do well. 
I was sorry to see the statements in the 
Primitive, showing to me that the blessed 
little messenger, the Primitive Baptist, was 
so near dead as what it was. I am very 
glad it is yet alive on the same bases on 
which it now stands. I am still willing 
to do what I can for its welfare. 

Brother Hart, we are in a lonesome situ- 
ation here. Brother George W. Carrow- 
an has given up his pastoral care over us. 
I don't think he will finally forsake us; 
though the route was very fatiguing, and 
so many churches depending on him, I 
did not think hard of him at all. 

Brethren and sisters, if I am not an old 
fashioned or predestinarian Baptist, I am 
nothing at all. That is the profession my 
soul desires to honor, and I believe that 
all the rest of tire worshiping community, 
under different names, are the worshipers 
of Mystery Babylon, the Mother of Har- 
lots. And I saw the woman drunken with 
the blood of the saints, and with the blood 
of the martyrs of Jesus; and when I saw 
her I wondered with great admiration. 
Now, brethren, if the beloved disciple, to 
wit, Johrt, who was so often in the Spirit 
with his God, should be so astonished at 
wicked drunkards, well may the people in 
these latter days be astonished. Yes, ev- 
ery one of his children down to the pres- 
ent day are drunkards, and yet they want 
to be called a temperate people. The old 
strumpet was clothed with much gold and 
silk, and costly raiment, and her children 
are equally so, for you hear them cry, 
give, give; but, poor deluded mortals, 
they never get enough. One of her run- 
ners has been among us in my neighbor- 
hood here, of late. She has educated him 
in the ministry, but I suppose was not 
able to give him an outfit. His first ap- 
pointment no person met him, and he was 
so full of the matter and the honor of his 
old mother that he had to break his mind 
to private individuals, as I have been cred- 
itably informed; and told them he had 

bought a horse and chair, and he must have 
some money lo pay for them. 

I pray God Almighty to convince his 
children of all unrighteousness, that they 
may shun these drunkards; for they are 
worse than whiskey drunkards. 

My beloved brethren, stand to your 
posts every where, be up and doing, gird 
on your thighs the Lord's sword, take 
your lamp in your pitcher and cry might- 
ily against the Amorites, the Amalekites, 
&c; for we have only got them in a new 
name, the principle and practice are the 
same, for they thirst after the blood of the 
saints. So you see they are drunkards; 
but fear them not, brethren, for the Lord 
always chose a small flock to fight against 
the many; one can chase a thousand, and 
ten put ten thousand to flight. 

Now brethren, I must come to a close, 
hoping all of you that write in the Primi- 
tive will pray for me, that I may not get 
in the sieve of satan and thereby wound 
the cause of Christ with my feelings. So, 
farewell my brethren. Write on in our 
paper, contend for the truth as it is in Je- 
sus, and he will buoy you up under all 
your trials of this life; and at last, save you 
in his kingdom beyond the reach of harm. 
Yours in love, 



The "Regular Baptist,".willl)e publish- 
ed in the town of Weston, semi-monthly, 
and edited by Shelton J. Lowe, devoted 
to the cause of God and truth — containing 
16 large octavo pages or 8 quarto — and is- 
sued to subscribers at $i 00 in advance, 
$1 25 in three months, $1 50 at the end 
of the year. And as we do not wish to de- 
ceive any, it is distinctly understood that 
the "Regular Baptist" will be devoted to 
the Primitive or Old School Baptist 
cause, but at all times we will pay a decent 
respect to the opinion of others. We 
shall endeavor to use soft words, but hard 
J arguments. 



We will as far as in our power, make 
the paper a messenger of peace, by having 
its pages filled with such matter only, as 
will be to the edification and comfort pf all 
the dear Saints. We design publishing 
the entire history of the Primitive Bap- 
tists in this State, and should the work be 
patronised we will publish a complete his- 
tory of our denomination in the United 
States. We further propose to our New 
School, or Missionary friends of Missouri, 
that if they will furnish us, from time to 
time, their history — we will publish it in 
the "Regular Baptist" without note or 

character, it was admired as a kind of curi- 
osity, and a very suitable rebuke to the re- 
ligious fanatics, and begging mendicants, 
with which the country was flooded; as 
well as the officious medlersand hypocriti- 
cal swindlers and busy bodies in other 
people's business. They had it published 
in the 'Signs of the Times,' fro-m whence 
it has been re-published in several politi- 
cal, and other periodicals. We have been 
frequently requested to publish it in our 
paper. Several brethren, in different di- 
rections have suggested that such a society 
was much needed in the meridians where 

comment — a few pages of the paper will i they lived. We have thought proper to> 
be filled with extracts from Dr. Gill's publish it, at the solicitation of our breth- 
works of England, and the history of the : ren. Certainly, such a society is much 
W 7 elshBaptists,shewingthe connecting link needed. And notwithstanding it will be 
between us, as a denomination, and the A- looked at as frivolous and foolish, yet there 
postles, &c. The brethren and friends can be no doubt, but the principles laid 
to whom this prospectus is sent, will, we down, if acted upon by all, would change 
hope, take all the pains they can to get the moral aspect of our world into a com- 
subscribers and send us their names with parative Eden. 
the post-office address — none need feel 
any doubt of paying in advance, for we 
fully intend publishing one number at all 
hazards, but should providence prevent, ev- 
ery cent that is fdrwaidcd to us will be re- 
mailed to them again forthwith. All com- 


{Drawn up by Eld. R. M. Newport.'] 
While so many Societiesare formed, and 
so much pains taken to diffuse the princi- 
ples of Christianity, and to improve the 
munications must be postpaid, directed to morals of mankind abroad, it is considered 

Elder S. J. Lowe, Editor of the 'Regular 
Baptist,' at Weston, Platte county, Missou- 

The first number will be published on 
the 1st day of January, 1846. We par- 
ticularly wish to hear from all the friends 
by the firsi of January, that we can make 
some estimate how many numbers to pub- 

Weston, Mo. November 17th, 1845. 

From the Western Predestinarian Baptist. 

The Constitution of a new society, which 
appears in the present No. of our paper, 
we gave some years since, to some breth- 
ren in Kentucky, who were at that time 
terribly harrassed with the Agents, Solici- 
tors and Lecturers of the various new fan- 

a subject of deep regret that there should 
be no Society formed whose aim and ob- 
ject should be to correct and reform their 
own individual vices. Or in other words, 
while there is no much pains taken hy the 
numerous Societies, & by benevolent indi- 
viduals to cast the mole out of their neigh- 
bors' eyes, there should be so little pains 
taken first to cast the beam out of their 
own eyes. Physician heal thyself, is an ad- 
monition coming from the highest authori- 
ty; and it is humbly conceived that it is as 
applicable to the Scribes and Pharisees of 
the present generation as it was to those 
who were cotemporary with the Son of 
God on earth. Would the numerous So- 
cieties and zealous individuals who are so 
busily engaged in moralizing and Christian- 
izing others, manifest an equally laudable 
zeal in examining their own hearts, and 

gled societies and institutions of the day 

Notwithstanding its somewhat huiicious correcting their own errors, how much 



more like real Christians would they act:' 
would they quit lying, slandering and de- 
faming, and lay aside ail guile and hypocri- ' 
sy, and practice themselves what they pro- 
pose to be teaching others, in how much 
more favorable light would the}' appear to 
all really good men. 

In fine, were a society for self examina- 
tion formed, and rendered as popular as our ' 
Temperance and other kindred Societies 
are, it is believed it would go far towards! 
tranquilizing the agitated elements of soci- 
ety at large, and we should have less run-; 
ning to and fro as mendicants, and far less 
standing on the corners of the streets and 
thanking God that they were not like oth- 
er men. The following constitution there- 
fore for such a society is respectfully offer- 
ed to the public: 

Article 1. This society shall be de- 
nominated the Self Examining Society,! 
and shall be composed of members ofboih 
sexes, whose/heads and hearts are suscep- 
tible of moral improvement. 

Art. 2. The object of this society shall 

be that while we may see all others' faults, \ 

we shall endeavor to feel and correct our '• 


Art. 3. All the members of this socie- 
ty shall be vested with full powers and 
privileges to attend to their own concerns, 
and they shall consider it their duty to; 
study and mind their own business and let 
other people's business alone. 

Art. 4. This society shall never ap- 
point any presidents, vice presidents, secre- 
taries, delegates, spies or committtees to 
manage their concerns, nor to watch over 
and make reports of the misdoings of oth- 
ers, until such a work of charity shall have 
been commenced and approximated a 
completion at home. 

Art. 5. There shall be no public nor 
private meetings of the members of this 
society for the purpose of transacting busi- 
ness as a society, or to hear lectures deliv- 
ered before them; but it shall be the duty 
of each member to meet himself alone ev- 
ery day and listen to the lecture of bis 
own conscience. 

Art. 6. There shall 

never be any 


funds raised by this society by means of 
hired soliciting or begging agents, nor by 
subscription, donation or bequest, for the 
purpose of defraying the expense of the so- 
ciety, nor for the purpose of circulating 
self examining tracts or self examining al- 
manacs, norto pay any lawyer or minister 
for delivering lectures before us to con- 
vince us how much easier it is to examine 
others than it is to examine ourselves. 

Art. 7. All the members of this socie- 
ty shall pay due regard to temperance' in 
eating and drinking and in every thing 
else; but they shall be their own judges as 
to what, they shall eat, and what they shall 
drink, and wherewithal they shall be 
clothed; while gluttony, drunkenness and 
tight lacing shall be left to the gnawings 
of conscience and thevConsumption,-with all 
the popular reproach they so richly de-- 
serve, without the benefit of clergy or the 
votes and lectures of a Temperance Socie- 

Art. 8. The members of this society 
shall call every thing by its proper name; 
they shall not put bitter for sweet, nor 
sweet for bitter, nor call for vinegar when 
they mean rum; nor for cider or beer when 
they mean French brandy or gin; nor shall 
any grocer, merchant or inn-keeper put 
new wine into old bottles; nor French 
brandy at the back door for the use and 
benefit of temperance customers. 

Art. 9. All the members of this socie- 
ty shall deal truly openly and honora- 
bly; and all who do otherwise shall be de- 
livered over to the fellowship and confi- 
dence of religious and political swindlers: 
and any grocer, merchant, or innkeeper 
who shall sell preparations of whiskey for 
for Malaga or Maderia wine, or for St. 
Croix rum, shall be excluded from all 
good society excepting that of the Temper- 
ance Society. 

Art. 10. All the members of this soci- 
ety shall be allowed full liberty to drink 
coffee or tea. cold water or hot water, but- 
termilk or lemonade, take snuff, smoke 
or chew tobacco, just as their fancies may 
lead, provided it be not offensive to the 
company they are in. 



Art. 11. This society shall be and re- 
main separate and distinct from all oth- 
er societies; it shall form no religious party 
in politics, nor political party, under the 
name of the Self Examining; Society. It 
shall have nothing to do with Masonry or 
Anti-masonry, the colonizing, Abolition 
or Anti-slavery Societies; nor with the 
Missionary, Bible, Tract, nor Sunday 
School Societies, as being auxiliary to, or 
in any way connected with them. But 
each member shall enjoy full libery of con-' 
sience to serve God in his own way, accor- 
ding to his own understanding of the Bi- 
ble, he shall examine his own heart and cor- 
rect his own vices, however, before, he 
presumes to correct the vices of others; he 
may profess what religion he pleases, or 
none at all, if he pleases; just as his feel- 
ings and judgment may teach him, provi- 

well disposed person who loves his coun- 
try and delights in the peace of society, 
and is not a member of any moneyed soci- 
ety, by contributing annually or otherwise 
to its funds, shall be considered as entitled 
to membership in this society without 
money, fee or reward. 


Coosa county \ Jllabamai> 
March 8th, 1846. 
The Primitive Baptist church at Mount 

Carmel, to the brethren Editors Print* 

itive Baptist. 

Dear Brethren: We have occasion, 
as we think, to address yon a short commu- 
nication and our apology for the same is as 
follows, viz-: Some months since at one of 
our regular church meetings, brother Dan- 

ded he lives morally and conducts himself j ie , Rovve who is a mem b er with us, an or- 

uprightly, without being excluded from 

civil society and branded as an Infidel, or 

delivered over to the buffeting of religious j Sabbath, made some remarks on the per- 

dained minister and our pastor, in a dis- 
course delivered to the audience on the 

fanatics and cold water Pharisees. 

Art. 12. Good society should not con 

son of our Saviour in his humiliation, in 
which he denied himself the use of such 

sist, exclusively, of the aristocracy .of. terms as humanity, human nature, &c. re- 

wealth; nor be made up of the aspirants 
and zealots of religious and political pro- 
fessions: it should include the poor who 

fered to the person of Jesus Christ, alleg- 
ing that two natures could not exist in a 
holy being; that holiness was but one na- 

are honest, intelligent and industrious, as . ture) whether it subsisted in flesh and 
well as the rich: nor should that deference ! blood, or immortality, and that he was 
be overlooked which is due to the laboring j «£ od manifest in the flesh." Also, in 
partof the community, to the. farmers and j ma j. in g gome re marks on his death, he 
mechanics and all whose labors are a pub- said that he. was' God and died like a God, 
lie as well as a private benefit. In fine, and repeated the following lines, viz: 
the members of this society shall examine, 
there own hearts and lives, and guard 
against those sins that most easily beset 

themselves; they shall seek to do good 

God' the mighty Maker died, 
For man the ereature's sin. 

And gave his assent to the sentiment ex- 

and not evil, to love and hate not one an- pressed and remarked, that if Goc\,had not 
other; all town and neighborhood gossips, died we could not have lived; which was 
tattlers, talebeares, backbiters and busybod-' refered to Jesus Christ, who was God 

iesin other people's matters, will necessari- 
ly be debared from membership in this so- 
ciety; because it is understood that they 
have so much to do in examining, and pry- 
ing into other people's business that they 
have no leasure to examine themselves, 
or attend t» their own business. 

Art. 13. But every truly moral and 

manifest in the flesh, and laid down his bo- 
dy in death when "he made himself an 
offering and a sacrifice to God for us." 

The manner of address became the sub- 
ject of some conversation among the 
brethren, and we suppose for want of a 
critical observation of the sentiments ex- 
pressed, or owing to some mistake of Ian- 



■Iguage without design, (as we suppose,) a 
•report went abroad that brother Rovve 
publicly denied that Jesus Christ had suf- 
fered in the flesh. After the report went 
forth, it seems that it reached the ears of 
■some individuals, who were disposed to 
Use it to the prejudice of his religious and 
ministerial character. In view of which, 
We think that It is our duty to say to all 
persons into whose hands our scrip may 
fall, that the report is not true, and that we 
■esteem brother Rowe sound in the faith; 
•and think that we shall have discharged 
•our duty in this respect, when our short 
'Communication shall find a place in the 
■columns of your paper. 

And so we close our short address by 
subscribing ourselves your brethren in af- 
fliction, and in the hope of the gospel. 

Signed by order of the church in Con- 
ference. J. P. RAMSEY, C. C. 

(Q^Brother Beebe will please copy this 
from the Primitive Baptist. 


Please publish the following obituary 
notice, and oblige a friend. 


Died, at his residence in Walton coun- 
ty, Ga. on the morning of the 17th ult. in 
the 68th year of his age, Edmund Gre- 
sham, after a painful illness of nearly two 
years, upon an affection of dropsy. He 
has been an orderly member of the Baptist 
church upwards of thirty years. Having 
died suddenly, (while sitting up in his 
chair,) we cannot tell the state of his feel- 
ings, but believe from his former life our 
Joss is his eternal gain. He has left an af- 
fectionate wife and numerous relatives and 
friends to mourn his death. 

Feb. 6, 1846. 

TO editors primitive baptist. 

Griffin, Ga. Feb. 4th, 1846. 

Dear Brethren: After my respects I 

inform you that at the last session of the 

Towaliga Primitive Baptist Association, 

we altered the time of holding our annual 

sessions from Saturday before the second 
Sunday in October, to Thursday before 
the first Sunday in September; and the 
Association instructed me to request you 
to give the alteration a few insertions in 
your paper, for the benefit of our corres- 
ponding brethren. The next session of 
the Towaliga Primitive Baptist Associa- 
tion will convene with the church at Beth- 
el, Butts county, Ga., commencing on 
Thursday before the first Sunday in Sep- 
tember next. Your compliance with our 
request will much oblige respecfully yours. 


Fayette C. H, Alabama, 7 
January 30th, 1846. 5 

t ary 

Dear Bretlren: I have been a con- 
stant reader of your most valuable paper 
the Primitive Baptist, and it is always a 
source of comfort to me to hear from my 
brethren from different parts of these Uni- 
ted Stales; and to hear that there is yet a 
remnant that is slanding on Primitive 
ground, and earnestly contending for the 
faith once delivered to the saints. Though 
we are despised by the world and carnal 
professors, yet the word of eternal truth 
says: Fear not, little flock, it is your Fa- 
ther's good pleasure to give you the king- 
dom. The prophet Jeremiah cries out in 
language thus: Stand in the way, and see 
and ask for the good old paths of duty, and 
walk in them. Another prophet says: 
Cry aloud, and spare not. Taking in con- 
sideration the power and wisdom of God 
in the covenant and plan of salvation, I am 
made to cry out in the language of one of 
old, saying: Great and marvellous are thy 
works, Lord God Almighty; just and true 
are thy ways, thou king of saints, &c. My 
mind is full. I will come to a close, by 
subscribing myself your brother in tribula- 
tion. A. M. REYNOLDS. 


Franklin, Holmes county, Mi. 
December 25th, 1S45. 
Dear Brethren: I have been trying 



to do something for the Primitive here, but 
have not succeeded as yet, as it appears to 
be Arminianism and freewillism in this 
section. Bat I intend to continue trying 
to promote the paper and the cause it advo- 
cates, and as I am passing through scenes 
of trouble at this time, I shall omit trying 
to write any thing for publication. But if 
it is the blessed Lord's will to clear up my 
way, perhaps 1 may send on something for 
the perusal of the brethren and sisters. So 
nothing more at present. 



Big Woods, Louisiana 

r oods, Louisiana, ? 
an. 2lst, 1S46. 3 


Dear brethren Editors: It grieves 
me to find that you are not more liberally 
supported that what you are. I will say 
that the wise world can't hear tbe ever- 
lasting truth of the Bible. I thank tbe 
Lord that he keeps his own, that is to say, 
ihey don't: keep themselves. May we 
look unto Christ our righteousness, the 
rock of eternal ages, is the prayer of your 
weak brother. JAMES PERKINS. 

weeks, and at length I thought that I had 
prayed enough. But alas! right there t 
thought that I should die, and it caused me 
to pray again, and caused me to cry, Lord 
have mercy on me, a poor hell deserving 
wretch. And I thought that it was noth 
ing more than I deserved, to be sent to hell 
for the sins that I had done; and could not 
see how God could be just and save such a 
sinner as I was. And at last I became 
right willing to do God's will, if he sent 
me to hell it was not more than I deserv- 
ed; and if he saved me, it was according, 
to his own will. And 0! the joy that 
sprung in my poor soul. I saw Christ had 
died for just such creatures as I, the just 
for the unjust: which made me cry out r 
Give God the glory for ever and ever'. 

Nothing more at present, but remain 
your humble servant if a servant at all. 

FOR the primitive bapti-t. 

Greene county, Tennessee, ? 
Feb. 5th, 1846. 3 
Dear brethren Editors: By the mer- 
cies of God I am permitted at last to write 
you a few lines, imperfect as they may be, 
begging leave to make some apology for 
not writing sooner. A few words con- 
cerning my life. 

I was born in the State of North Caroli- 
na, Wilkes county, and came from thereat 
about eight years old. 1 lived in dark- 
ness till it pleased God to call me by his 
spirit in the year 1833, in September; and 
I had not been to a Baptist meeting before 
in fifteen years. And I do believe that 
Pleasant A. Witt was an instrument in the 
hand of God to show me my situation, 
which caused me to begin to pray; and 
the more I prayed the worse I thought I 
was. And I went on so for about three 

to editors primitive baptist.- 

Saline, Arkansas, 7 
Dec. 25, 1845. S 
Dear Editors: I send you a few lines 
to inform you that I wish my subscription 
to be continued, as I have been a subscri- 
ber for the past four years. I must, say 
that I am well pleased with the doctrine 
set forth in your periodical, and send you 
a few names as subscribers for the year 
IS 46. J. HART. 


Sharpsbitrg, Kentucky , \ 
2nd Jaix'y, 1846. 5 
Dear Brethren: Enclosed you will 
find pa)' for the Primitive Bnptist. I take 
the "Signs of the Times" — very frequent- 
ly when I read the communications of 
some of the old stamp Baptists to your 
and Bio. Beehe's paper, it strikes me that 
one communication is worth more than 
what they cost for the whule year. If 
your paper wa? more generally known, it 
is my belief that you would have many 
more subscribers in Kentucky than you 




have. Wishing success, I remain your 
friend, &c. M. Q. ASHBY. 


Gcrmantoivn, Ohio, ? 
December 8th, 1845. 3 
Beloved Brethren: I can still recom- 
mend the Primitive Baptist as a favorite 
periodical to me, and I am induced to en- 
courage the same, therefore I very much 
desire to have it continued to me. I have 
been much afflicted in my limbs the last 
summer, I scarcely can Write my name at 
present. I must stop. Sending my love 
•and respect to the Old School Baptists 
generally. JOHN JB. MOSES. 


Alabama, Pike county, 
Feb. 15th, 1846. 
Bear Editors: There are among us 
as among others those that cannot endure 
the doctrine of the Primitive Baptist. It 
is the doctrine in which my soul delights, 
the doctrine as it is promulgated by Mi- 
chael Burkhaltcr, James Osbourn, N. S. 
McDowell, L. Massey, and many others I 
could mention. I am well pleased with 
their productions, and hope that I shall en- 
joy the pleasure of hearing from them oft- 
en. We have a cold time among us here, 
which often causes me to reflect seriously 
on the passage of scripture which says: 
"There shall not only be thirst for waters 
and famine for want of bread, but for the 
gospel among us." And sometimes it 
does indeed appear like it, but thank the 
Lord for his blessings, we have some 
among us that are able to preach the gospel 
in truth and simplicity, to administer to 
our souls the bread and waters of eternal 
life; such are R. Warren and R. Toler, as 
well as others that could be mentioned 
• We have among us some who pretend to 
preach the gospel, but if they are right I 
am wrong, for I cannot enjoy myself un- 
der the sound of their preaching. 
Yours in the gospel. 



Israel freed from Egypt. L. M. 
When Israel was from Kgypt led, 
They all were then on manna fed, 
Till they got safe we understand, 
To Canaans lair and happy land. 
Their bread and water did not fail, 
In vam their foes did them assail; 
Supported by an unseen hand, 
While marching on to Canaan's land. 
At Sinas Mount they hid to stay, 
And hear the law from day to day; 
This law was given by God's command, 
While marching to the promis'd land. 
Moses upon the Mount did go, 
While all the people slaid below; 
Full forty years this noble band, 
Wus travelling on to C anaan's land, 
The manna fell on all the ground, 
While Israel travel'd round and round; 
They all must cross the Jordan now, 
And Jericho it had to how. 
The trumpets blew a dreadful sound, 
The people shouted all around; 
Her walls fell down we understand, 
And Israel took the promis'd land. 

Macon, Ga. May 6, 1845. 


Eider fVm. Hyma/i will preach at Joy- 
ner's Meeting-house on the 3rd Sunday in 
May next. 

R. D. Hart expects to preach at Ske- 
warky, on the third Sunday in May next; 
Monday, at Morattock; Tuesday, at the 
Schoolhouse; Wednesday, at White Chap- 
el; Thursday, at Concord. The fourth 
Saturday and Sunday, at Angeley's Meet- 
ing-house; Monday, at Bethlehem. 

Appointments for Elder Par ham Puc- 

April 22, at Rose of Sharon; 2 1 1 h T at 
Red Banks; 25th, at Great Swamp; 26-th, 
at Flat Swamp; 27th, at Spring Green;, at Beargrass; 29th, at Sknwarkey. 

May 1st, at Morattsek; 2nd,, at White 
Chapel; 3rd, at Concord; 4ih, at Liver- 
man's; 6th, i.t Gum Neck; 7ih, at Bethle- 
hem; !Sth, at Sound Side; 9th, at Ange- 
ley's; 10th and 1 Tth, at Concord; 12lh,.at 
White Chapel; 1 3th, at Morattock; 15th,, 
in Washington; 17th, at Blount's Creek; 
18th, at Whhford's; 19th, at Swill Creek. 

July 9th, at Tison's m. h.; 11th, at Tar- 



boro'; 12th, at Lawrence's; 13th, at Deep 
Creek; 14th, at Kehnkee; 1 6i h, at Joiner's 
Chapel; 18th and 19th, at South Quay; 
21st, at Joiner's Chapel; 23rcT, at Log Cha- 
pel; 24ih, at Cross Roods; 25th, at Cone- 
to; 26th. at Great Swamp 



North Carolina. C.B.Wassett, Williamston 
R. M.G.Moore, Germanton. W. w.Mizell,f7.y- 
mouth. Benji Bynum, Nahunta Depot, H.Ave- 
TB,Averasboro' . Burwell Temple, Raleigh. Thos. 
Bagley, Smithfield. James H. Sasser, Waynes- 
boro'. L. B. Bennett, Heafhville. Cor's Cana- 
day, Cruvensville William Welch, Abbott's 
Cretki A. Bi Bains, Jr. Stanhope. C. T. Saw- 
yer, PoweWs Point. H. Wilkerson, West Point. J. 
Miller, Milton Park. Isaac Meekins and Samuel 
Rogers, Columbia, Wm> Mr Rushing, White's 
Store. James H.Smith, Wilmington, Jacob Her- 
ring, Goldsboro', Si Tatum. Elizabeth City, Ad- 
am Hooker, Salem Church, Abner Lamb, Cam- 
den C. H\ 

South Carolina. Wm. S. Shaw, Rock Mills 
W. B. Villard, Sr. Aiken. M.McGraw, Brown's. 
J. Li Simpson, Winnsboro'. Ji Gi Bowers, Whip- 
py Swampi Wm. Nelson, Camden, Gi Mat 
thews, Germanville. J. C. Lucas, Lexington C, H. 
Georgia. John McKenney, Forsyth. Thomas 
Amis, Lexington. John Mi Field, Macon. John 
W. Turner, Pleasant Hill. WHiam Trice and 
William D.Taylor, Thomaston. Ezra McOrary 
Warrenton. Prior Lewis, Thomasvil/e, 7. Las- 
setter, Vernon. Abner Durham, Greenville, Geo. 
Leeves, Milledgeville. W.J.Parker, Chmuba.J.P. 
E\]\s,Finevil/e.F.Ha£%zrd, Alliens. A.M. Thomp- 
son, Fort Valley. Daniel I Neel,0/('ueG/-oue. John 
Wayne, Cain's, Rr S. Hamriek, Carroll/on. D. 
Smith, Cool Spring Moses H. Denman, Marietta 
Jethro Oates, Mulberry Grove, Isham Edwards, 
Marion. Joseph Daniel, Fish's. R. L. Hayne, 
Lebanon. T. w. Dearing, Cotton River. E.Davis, 
Grew Hilh 

Alabama. A.Keaton,2?f/™o??r. H.Danceand 
W. Bizzell, Euiaw. E.Bell, Liberty Hill. I. 
G.Walker, Milton. H. Williams, Havana, J. 
Daniel, Claiborne, E.Daniel, Church Hill, i. 
Carpenter,Sr. Clinton, .1, McQueen, Lowndesboxo' . 
W m.Talley, Mount Moriah, B Upchurch, Bene- 
vola. S. Hamriek, Planlersville. James S. Mor- 
gan, Dayton. Rufus Daniel, Jameston, Joel Hi 
Chambless, Loweville. F. Pickett, China Grove, 
John w. Pellnm, Franklin, John Harrell, Mis, 
souri. Wm. Thomas, Gainer's Store. E.M.A- 
mos, Midway Allen Moore, Intercourse, John 
Bryan, Sr. Fulltrsville, Benj. Lloyd, Wttumplra. 
N. N.Barmore, Mill Pert, A. Hailey, Pin/la/a. 
Vincent Williams, Mobile. Young Smith, Eufau- 
la. T. J. Foster, Bell's Landing. Henry Cason, 
Monticello. Henry Petty, FickensviUe. D. R. 
P. King, PaincsviWe. John whitehead, Jr. Plea- 
sant Mains. M. W. Helms, BridgevUle. Elly 
Bi Turner, Abbevilte, Thomas Townsend, Fork- 
land. Robert Grady, Bluff Port. R. R.Thomp- 
sou, Centreville. James F. Watson, Geneva. 

Tennessee Michael Bnrkhalter, Jasper, Wm. 
doom, Jackson. Solomon Ruth, Wesley. Ira Ei 

Douthit, Lynchburg, Geo. Turner, Waverly. 
Henry Randolph, Snodysvi/le, Pleasant A. Witt, 
Russtlville, William McBee, Old Town Creek, 
A. Burroughs, Moore's X Roads. James Shelton, 
Portersville, Shadrach Mnstain, Lewisburg. Na- 
than S. McDowell, Tazewell, Henry Turner, Fay* 
ettevllle. Isaac Moore, Ripley, 

Mississippi. William Huddleston and Ed- 
mund Beeman, Thomaston. Simpson Parks and 
Samuel Canterherry, Lexington. John S. Daniel, 
Cotton Gin Port. Mark Prewett, Aberdeen, 
Wm. Davis, Hoastou. C. Nichols, Stump Bridge. 
Woolen Hiil, Cooksvrtlet John Davidson, far 
rollton. Thomas Mathpws, Black Hawk. 
Lee, Beatie's Bluff. James T. S. Coekerham, 
Grub Springs, James Crawley, Minghoma. Jos. 
Edwards, New Albany. Thomas C, Hunt, Mc- 
Lead's. John Halbert, Nashville. Wilson Hunt, 
Stewart's, John Seallom, Pleasant Mount, John 
Kinnard, Daley's X Roads. &, B. Stalling, De- 

Florida. Hartwell Watkins, Monticello. Lew- 
is Tucker, Campbell/on. 

Louisiana. Thos Paxton, Greensboro'. Jas, 
Peikins and NeeHham Coward, Big woods. L. 
G. McGaughey, Ballieu's Ferry. Benjamin Gar- 
lington, Negreet. 

Arkansas. John Hart, Saline. Georo-e wi 
Rogers, Arhadclphia, C> B. Landers, Union C.H, 
i, M. C. Robertson. Foster's, John Honea, Ozark, 
Missouri. John P. McDowell, Neio Market, 
Illinois. John Alsbury, Lick Creek. 
Indiana, wilaon Connar, Columbia, 
Ohio. John B. Moses, German/on, 
Kentucky. Washngton Watts, Co<-nelius- 
ville. Levi Lancaster. Canton. Skelton Renfro T 
Cumberland Ford. Tandy James, Somerset, Isaac 
Horn, Rome. 

Virginia. RudolphRorer, Berger's Store. Wrr. T 
w. West, Whea/ley. William Burns, Davis- 
Mills, Jesse Lankford. Bowers's, A. Rorer, Edge- 
hill Thomas Flippen. Laurel Grove. Thomas- 
w Walton, Pleasant Gap. Levi Bishop, Sinclair'* 

Pennsylvania. Joseph Hughes, Gum Tree, 
NewYork. Gilhert Beebe, New Vernon. 


A. Burroughs, 


C. C. Callaway, 


S. Daniel, 


Jno. W. White. 


R. M. Bullock, 


k. R. Fortsan, 


P 11 Turner, 


Wm. Stevens, 


MacKeen Cook 




Theo Barnes, 


R Daniel, 


Roh't Martin, 


B. R. Wade, 


Isaac Gentry, 



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VOL. it. 

SATURDAY, MAY 2< 1846 

No. 5. 



it//// Port, Alabama, ? 
il/arcA 1*/, 1846. S 
To the brethren and sisters of the Butt a- 

katcha Association, and those ivith 

ivhorri she Corresponds. 

Dear Brethren: The Minutes of our 
Association has just coine to hand, and 
Owing to the many alterations and errors 
which appear in the Circular, I have come 
to the conclusion not to distribute them 
for this reason; the enemies of truth are 
always, watching for some reasonable 
grounds to gainsay, &c, and of course as 
the Circular now stands, it leaves room for 
such to criticise. Then, dear brethren, in- 
asmuch as I am the writer of the Circular 
alluded to, I feel it my privilege and du- 
ty, to set forth the Circular in the Primi- 
tive Baptist, as it should have appeared in 
the face of the MinUtes. For I am confi- 
dent that every adder will be hissing, and 
striking at the position 1 took in shewing 
that the scriptures are net the gospel. And 
should there be any of the dear saints who 
are dissatisfied at my position, if they will 
inform me of the same I will I think give 
them satisfaction, as I had not space suffi- 
cient in the usual limits of a Circular to il- 
lustrate as I desired to have done. 

Then, dear brethren, I wish you to pon- 
der the subject well before you approve or 
disapprove, as hasty judgment is not apt 

to be judicious, If you will read the scrip* 
tures carefully you will discover, two dei-> 
ties, held forth and worshiped from a very 
early age of the World; the true and the 
living God, and the creation of man fash- 
ioned after his own fancy according to his 
liking. And no odds how many shapes 
they may be set forth in, rightly speaking 
there is but one such and they are called 
by the ancient of days idols, and their wor- 
shipers are called idolators; and it is evi- 
dent, that the votaries of the idols have 
been always more in number than the 
worshipers of the true and living God. It 
is also incontrovertibly evident, that they 
have always been the rulers of the affairs 
of this sin-disordered world, to which 
the church in her militency is consigned. 
Then they must have a system to act by, 
and Paul calls it another gospel in his day. 
Hence there are two gospels, as well as two 
deities; then if two deities, and two gos- 
pels, there must be two beliefs, and two 
faiths, each of which is the production of 
its sovereign or the result of its system, 
(effort, if you please.) Then two salva- 
tions or deliverances, two hopes, and two 

Now, Sir, says one. (perhaps,) you have 

said more than you are able to support > 

but I think not. There is the gospel of 
the Son of God, which is the power of 
God unto salvation; not the power of man 
unto salvation, but the power of God. 
This gospel acts independent to man, and independent to the will or purpose of 
man. God i/i Christ, in covenant, &c, 



acting out by the agency of his divine spi- 
rit, that which lie purposed in himself in 
the covenant of redemption before ihe 
world was made, in calling the needy indi 
gent son? of want out of the horrid pit 
wherein there is no water; and putting 
them upon the rock of eternal ages accord- 
ing to his own purpose and grace, which 
was given them in Christ Jesus before the 
world was made. 

Then I believe the gospel of the Son of 
God, which is the power of God unto sal- 
vation, is the work of God, effecting, that 
in time which he purposed in eternity; act- 
ing out his promises to his Son according 
to the covenant intercession and atone- 
ment. Yes in taking his children, the ob- 
jects of his love and members of his body, 
from under I he banner and out of the ser- 

in you to will and to do of his own good 

Maik that, brethren, good pleasure. 
Ah, my Lord, had it not have been for thy 
good pleasure where would, this poor sin- 
ner have been? Perhaps in a row with the 
antichristians, blaspheming thy blessed 
name. Yet it is amazing, that ever such a 
good being should have so condescended, 
as to have taken such a poor miscreant 
worm as I am out of the pit, of sin. Even 
so, Father, for so it seemed good in thy 

The other gospel is that which is spoken 
of by Paul, which is supported by an arm 
of flesh; and its power is to deliver the sin- 
ner from the fears of hell and damnation 
upon the ground of human merit, having 
an eye single to their own good works as a 

vice of Belzebub, stripping them of their sacrifice for their sins, depending upon 
spider-web dress, taking off their short I what they do to save them in a coming 

covering, old shoes, Sac. and clothing them 
in the righteousness of his own Son; 
which, as old Bio. Watts says, is without 
the shadow of a spot. This is deliverance 
effected by the power of God in the pur- 
pose of God, from eternity. 

Brethren, if these things seem strange 
to you I can'l help it, for 1 do believe it; 
and had 1 words to indite to you what I 
now see upon the subject,, I believe all 
my old brethren would agree with their 
unworthy junior brother, and no more hold 
out the idea that the scripture is the gospel. 
Preach, the gospel, preach the word, 
preach Christ, &c. not preach the scripture. 
Then the gospel, Christ, and the word, are 
all commanded to be preached, and in the 
beginning was the word, and the word was 
God, &c &c. Then preach God in Christ, 
in covenant from eternity reconciling the 
world unto himself, and 1 think you will 
come pretty c!o«e to the mark and preach 
his purpose, &c. &c. iNot that you or I 
can make it thej power of.God, for God's 
power and yours are two. things; his pow- 
er is unlimited, and independent; and 
yours is limited and dependent. Your 
power is the result of God's power working 

day; which is according to their own pur- 
pose and no grace given them in them- 
selves, from the beginning of their first 
fears of hell. Such do not glory in the 
Lord) nor have no delight in his good plea- 
sure; and if all their prayers were conden- 
sed into a solid body, and run through a 
sugar mill until the end of time, there nev- 
er could be got from the whole bundle or 
body the four short phrases of, thy will be 
done — but enough of, my will be done, and 
God bless the efforts, and bless the mis- 
sionaries, and bless the donors, who have 
so liberally supported the benevolent insti- 
tutions of the day, &c. to pave the way to 
judgment so as almost to make it a big, 
broad, easy way. But oh their end, their 
dreadful end, &c. 

The hope of God's elect is, an anchor to 
the soul, laid upon the rock Christ Jesus. 
Their hope is as an anchor to the flesh, 
laid upon the sandy foundation of human 
merit. The faith of God's elect, is the 
substance of things hoped for, the evidence 
of things not seen, which is the gift of God. 
Their faith is the shadow of things hoped 
for, and the evidence of things th-at are 
seen, &c. &.C That charity, which his 


elect rejoice in, which endureth for ever, 
is perfect love. The charily ihat they re 
joice in, is Imperfect human love. 

Now in conclusion of my few hurried 
remarks. If the scripture be the gospel, 1 
can prove that there will be but one kind 
of people saved by ihe gospel. What does 
this scripture mean that says, repent and 
believe the gospel? Does it mean to repenl 
and believe the scripture? If so and its, on- 
ly by the gospel one can be saved and the 
scripture is the gospel, the missionaries, 
Arminians, &c. are just as certain to be lost 
as the scripture is true; for they don't be 
lieve the scripture. Then if the scripture 
is the gospel, the Old Baptists believe 
it every word; and none others do, and 
they will surely be the ones thai will hear 
the welcome plaudit resound in their be 
half and say, Come ye blessed of my Fa- 
ther, &c. 

We believe the church of Christ is a lit 
tie flock, because the scripture says so; and 
they believe that it is a big flock. We be- 
lieve, that God's love to sinners, is discri- 
minating, that the purpose of God accord- 
ing to election might stand — they don't. 
We believe that God's word shall not re- 
turn unto him void, but shall accomplish 
that whereunto he has sent it. 1 say, we 
believe ii, because the scripture thus speaks. 
They say it is quite likely, to the contrary. 
We believe, that sinners are saved by grace, 
according to God's own purpose and grace, 
&c. &c. They don't, this makes them 
quite wrathy. Oh how this kind of doc- 
trine makes the devil snort, foam, pitch and 
tear, and kick up his big rows, and try to 
show us better by appointing a big row or 
protracted meeting, to deceive the hearts 
of the simple, &c. &c. Then if the scrip- 
ture is the gospel, they had better believe 
it themselves before they try to leach oth- 

Brethren, I must come to a clo-e, soli- 
citing an interest in all your prayers. And 
may the Lord act out his purpose in you 
all, is the best prayer I can lay up for you 


The Buttahutchu Association, to the 
churches within her limits sendeth 
Christian salutation. 
Dear Bkethken: In conformity with 
Baptist customs, we address you in a Cir- 
cular Letter which we design for the edifi- 
cation of Ihe body of Christ; and as reli- 
gious canvassing has been displayed by the 
different sects of religionists, for the few 
past years in a greater degree than it has 
been, you have seen exhibited illustrations 
on nearly if not q^iite, all suhjecls that ap- 
pertain to the saints of salvation. In those 
displays you have seen many things true, 
but of course you hue sten many things 
displayed from the press as well as from 
the pulpit that are not true, else there 
would he no contradictions, nor diversity 
of sentiments upon the subject of religion, 
embraced nor taught by the human family. 
This being the ca»e, we are somewhat at a 
lo-s for a subject that would edify you; but 
forasmuch as we have been accused, and 
are yet accused of being opposed to the 
spread of the gospel, we shall endeavor at 
this lime to treat upon the subject of the 
| gospel, praying God to direct our pen in 
every position, word and sentence. 

All who stand in the ranks of the will 
worship or effjrt systems, thus impeach us, 
in order to impress it upon the minds of 
the pe"ple that we lark one of the first cha- 
racteristics of the true church, to wit, be- 
nevolence. Thus the blind are taught by 
the blind to load us wiih their calumnies, 
aspersions and invectives, when at the same 
time they know no more what ihe gospel 
is, than the benighted Hottentot who nev- 
er was blessed with the light of revelation, 
whom they so much pity for their igno- 
rance. Bui they forget lo remember that 
there is one thing that all the human fami- 
ly arealike ignorant in; whilst in a stale of 
natuie they are all alike ignorant in regard 
to the great mystery of godliness. Then, 
beloved, we argue that the Hindoos, the 
I lottenio* and the Chinese, are just as wise 
in this matter as Alexander or any of the 



learned sages of the day, unless they are 
taught by Ihe spirit of God. If you 
don't believe us, you and ihe Lord for it. 
Cor. 3 c. 19 v.; .lob. 32 c. 9v. The world 
by Wisdom knew noi God-Mhe wisdom ot 
the world is foolishness to him, and (hough 
a man may have all wisdom so that he 
could unfold all mysteries and have not 
charity, he is nothing. &e. ' Hot lei us con- 
trast a little. Christ is ihe wisdom of God 
and the power of God. Cor. t c 24 v. 
And of him are ye in Christ Jesus our 
Lord, who of God is made unto us wisdom, 
and righteousness, and sanctilication, and 
redemption. 'I hen give the true born 
child of grace the light of revelation in his 
hand, and the candle of the grace of God in 
his heart, & there is no doubt bat what be 
will grow wise unto salvation, independent 
to all the preceptors on earth, or all the fox 
fire or artificial lights which msy be kin- 
dled up by over-zealous pretenders, or en- 
thusiastical religionists. 'Ihe candle of his 
grace in his heart to cheer him, and com- 
fort him, and warm him, by which he is 
made to rejoice in the God of his sal vat ion ; 
and the light of revelaiion in his hand to 
guide his wandering fi et, teach him how 
to act and what to do. This being ihe 
case, the poor afflicted, yet oftentimes com- 
forted Christian, find no more use for ihe 
institutions of the day to benefit and fur 
ther him, than the sheep finds for the lion's 
paiw or the swine's snoul; for he finds a 
plenitude in the scriptures, which are given 
by inspiration of God and is profitable for 
doctrine, for reproof, for correction, and 
for instruction in righteousness, &c. to en- 
gage all his deliberation.*, ami thoughts, 
and actions, without doing so many things 
that he is not directed n>or even authorized 
to do. 

We will now proceed, in as few words 

opposed to the spread of the gospel. Iri 
the doing of which we will alone advert 
to the 1 ght of revelation for precept and 
example. Then what is the gospel? Mr. 
YValkpr tells us in his dictionary that it is 
the holy book of the Christian religion. 
We do not pretend to Sav but what Mr. 
Walker is a much better scholar, and a 
more accurate defi ,er of words than any Of 1 
the Old Baptists. But we trow that none 
will prefer his definition to that of the 1 
Lord of life and glory, and although we 
highly esteem Mr. Walker as a preceptor" 
in phraseology, yet we must renounce his 
Standard when it clashes with the scrip- 
tures; for We are confident there is ho va- 
riaiion in them, for they are as silver tried 
seven times in the furnace. 

We have given you Mr. Walker's defi- 
nition of the gospel, We will now give y oil 
Paul's definition. Rom. I c. 1 6 v. I am 
not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it 
is ihe power of God unto salvation to eve- 
ry one that believeih. Here we see that 
Paul says that it is the power of God. The 
most of people are of the opinion that Mr. 
Walker is, that is, that the scripture is the 
gospel. My dear brethren, the scriptures 
only display to us the life and power of the 
gospel. Now to prove this let us reason 
together. When Paul was writing to the 
different churches, propounding to them 
what things had been done by the power of 
God, did his wriirngs cause these things to 
be done? or had not the things been per- 
formed before he wrote? Assuredly. Well 
then, his writings were only to show the 
church the glori' as works and infinite 
power of God. We find the word scrip- 
ture, in the scripture ten times, viz: Dan'l, 

10 c. 21 v.; Mai. 22 c. 29 v.} Acts, 17 e. 

11 v. — 18 e. 24 v.; Rom. 15 c. 4 v.; 2nd 
Tim. 3 c, 15 v. — 16 v.; 2nd Pet. 1 c. 20 

as possible so as to be understood, to show v. — 3 c. 16 v., and it is not hinted even as* 
what the gospel is, and then show how it is rnoch that it is the gospel, 
carried or made a benefit to the human I But we would not be understood to say, 
family; and in the doing of this, we shall that the scriptures are not a blessing andi 

contradict those charges thai our enemies 
have brought against us, viz: That we are 

benefit to the world, by any means; but we 
ate such transcending fluctuating beings, 



that we are apt to make too much or too 
little of almost every thing, and we do be- 
lieve that the people in this day are ma 
king too much of the scriptures. Paul 
tells us what the scripture is for, and the 
full extent of its utility. He says it is giv- 
en by inspiration of God, and is profitable 

God — none hut such as Christ is their wis- 
dom, their righteousness, their sanctifica- 
tion, and their redemption; even the little 
flock who are the fewt st of all people, and 
the weak, ignorant and despised things of 
this world. 

We have not been a little surprised at 

for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, ami thp inconsistency of people thus. We hear 
for instruction in righteousness; that the it argued bv a great many people that the 

man of God may be perfect, thoroughly 
furnished unto every good work; and he 
does not tell us that the scripture is the 
power of God unto salvation. The scrip- 
ture reveals to the understanding of our 
mind, the existence of one only true and 

scripture is the gospel, and we hear it ar- 
gued by these same people, that there are 
things revealed in the scripture that it is 
not necessary to teach; and some will go 
so far as to say it is dangerous to teach 
them, and yet they hold themselves wise 

living God, the Father, the Word, and the rabbies. This makes us think like Paul, 
Holy Ghost; and his plans and purposes in jsuiely the wisdom of the world is foolish- 
cteation and redemption before the world j ness to God. ami the world by wisdom 
was made, and by the light of revelation knows not God, We hear Paul say in an- 
we see Jesus Christ as existing before the other place that, Christ is the wisdom of 
foundation of the world. Proverbs. Ec. God and the power of God, IstCor. lc.24 
22, 23. 24,' 25, 26, 27 ver-es; Rev. 13 c 8 v ; and in another place that, the gospel is 
v.; John, 17 c. 24 v.; And as the surety the power of God. So if Paul W3S inspi- 

pf his people and for their sins, John, 1 c. 
29 v.; 2nd Cor. 5 c. 21 v ; whom he fore- 

red to write, as we know he was, his defi- 
nition of the word gospel should be accep- 

knew. Romans, 8 c. 29, 30 verses. Put ted ami Mr. Walker's rejected. Paul was 
did the scripture make him exist? or did tik p the Old Baptists are now, that is, he 
he make the scripture exist or cause them was a mighty one to make Christ all in all; 
to be transmitted to us? The latter, of and in making him all, he makes him the 

course. Then his people were saved and 
called with a holy calling, not according to 
their works, but according to his own pur- 
poses and grace which was given them in 
Christ Jesus before the world began. 

very nerve, sinew and subsiance of the gos- 
pel, and without him there is no gospel. 

Rut here is the idea. We oppose their 
craft, and the institutions of the day, and 
they must needs accuse us of some very at- 

Well, if these things be so, which no rocious crime; and at these seminaries their 
man dare to dispute— if the scripture he ! fathers have learnt them this lesson, just to 
the gospel, the Arminians nor the Free- say that we are opposed to the spread of 
wills never have preached the gospel yet; 'the gospel. Then they must allude that 
for they are as ambitious at its contents as I these abominable institutions are the gos- 
a rattlesnake is at his assailant. And I'll pel, when they say we are opposed to the 
go further, and say that if the scripture is ; gospel being spread; for we have no ac- 

the gospel as most people argue, that man 
who advocates the institutions of the day 
never has preached the gospel nor believed 
the gospel, for they are not known in the 
scripture. These are hard sayings, who 
can hear them? None but those who are 
Called, and chosen, and faithful — none but 
such as are led and taught by the spirit of 

count of a Raptist being opposed to the 
spread of the gospel, until the steam system 
of religion took place. Since then evcy 
professor that don't assist in keeping the 
wheel turning, is accused of being cove- 
tous, unhenevolent, and the dear knows 
what When at the same time there are 
no people that lack these philanthropical 



qualities more than they do, for they call it 
benevolence to be hospitable and charita- 
ble to those who are full and fat, and would 
not even condescend to regard a poor dis- 
tressed mortal who is truly indigent and 
needy. Thus they prove themselves pha 
risaical in the highest degree. 

We will advert to one more illustration 
1o prove our position in regard to the gos 
pel and then hurry on, viz: the laws of our 
hind. We elect men to our Legislature as 
our representatives to enact and repeal 
slatute laws, which they do, which are 
termed the laws of the State. But has the 
law any power independent to the authori- 
ties or officers of the State? We think not, 
for the pirate, the rogue, ihe midnight as- 
sassin might imbrue his hands in innocent 
blood all the days of his life, and wipe them 
on (he leases that contain the letter of the 
law, and at last die and never be arrested 
by the authorities of the State during his 
wicked career. Hence we discover that 
ihe laws are the criterion by which the au- 
thorities are to be governed in ail lega- 
tions; but of course the power of the law # 
lies in the people, or the citizens of the 
State. We desire to dwell here and say 
many things, but can't for want of room. 
Even so it is in regard to the scripture; 
Ihe hypocrite, the pharisee, &c, may have 

powers of the creature, while the soul is un- 
touched by the finger of divine love. 

You recollect that John saw a great won- 
der appear in heaven, a woman clothed 
with the sun, with the moon under her 
feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve 
stars. The woman is the church, the sun 
is the righteousness oi the Son of God, the 
stars are the twelve apostles, and the moon 
the scripture. Recollect then the moon 
would be an invisible dark body, was it 
not for the reflection of the golden rays of 
the sun; it could not guide the traveller 
when the sun has gone down. So in like 
manner is the scripture — the light it re- 
flects is from the Son of God, the son of 
man, the sun of righteousness; and when- 
ever a passage is applied to the poor mour- 
ner or Christian to comfort them, it is this 
sun that gives it power to act, else it would 
remain a perfect dark concealed book. 
Therefore Paul says, the natural man can- 
not discern the things of the spirit. &e. 
And Jesus said, I will pray the Father to 
send the Comforter, which shall guide you 
into all tjuth; it sh ill take of the things of 
mine and show it unto you. 

But if the scripture be as much as a 
great many people make them, ihey have 
no use. for an interpreter; for by their hu- 
man wisdom and their effort systems they 

the letter of the scripture in his head, and j can penetrate Ihe deep mystery of godli- 
understand all mysteries, and speak with ness, independent to the teachings of the 
Ihe tongue of men and angels, and be noth- ! spirit of the Lord; and carry his gospel any 
jug but a sounding brass and tinkling cym- where they please, whether sanctioned by; and at last die in a state of nonconfor- 
mity to God, and even be so assuming al 
his bar as to contradict the great Judge and 
^ay, we have eaten and drank in thy 
presence, cast nut devils, and done every 
other thing needful, and at last to sink into 
the vortex of eternal misery. And we 
awfully fear that there are thousands living 
now upon the same vain hope, thinking 
that if they conform to practical religion 
they must needs be saved; having no other 
light to guide them than that of the scrip- 
ture, when the scripture reflects only 
9 partial light, operating upon the mental 

him or not. And indeed we are ready to 
admit, that one gospel may be carried by 
man without the sanction of God; but we 
will not admit, that it is that gospel that 
Paul says is the power of God unto salva- 
tion. But it is another gospel, the gospel 
that is invented and supported by an arm of 
flesh; and the extern of its power is to give 
all mocking lshmaels, Hagarines, Ash- 
dods, and Judases, to persecute and mock 
the true legitimate heirs of promise, and 
blaspheme the worthy name of the God of 
all grace. These religionists have their 
system beautifully ornamented with good 



words and fair speeches, and so ingpnious 
and subtle are they lhat they would de 
ceive ihe very elect if it were possible; but 
just lake off their mask and you will find 
them to be full of dead men's bones, i. e. 
dead men's works, &c appearing at the 
same time to be very zealous and righte- 
ous; but we should always remember that 
a harlot's virtue is not to be (ound under 
her fine apparel. 

Those who are supporting the other gos- 
pel that Paul speaks of, under the influence 
of which gross darkness is to cover the 
minds of the people, can be very easily dis- 
tinguished from those who are supporting, 
(or rather who are supported by the gospel I 
of the Son of God ) Thus they are trying 
to confine the Lord to their decrees and 
purposes, prescribing what shall be done, 
and how things may be done, &c. &c. not 
conforming themselves to an acquipscence 
with his plans, and purposes, and decrees; 
which shows that they are not children of 
light. The gospel is made a benefit to the 
church according to God's purpose and 
grace, which was given his elect, in Christ 
before the world was made; nor can i t ' 
transcend the bounds of his glorious pur- 
pose & grace, for if it could, he would have 1 
something done which he never promised 
to do. Nor can it stop short of effecting 
that which he determined to be done be- 
fore the world was made, for if it could, 
there would be a lack of power supposed 
to be on the part of God; but my word 
shall not return unto me void, but shall ac- 
complish the thing whereunto I have sent 
it. Yet has God devised means whereby 
his banished shall not be expelled from 
him, who works all things after the coun- 
sel of his own will; who can work and 
none can hinder, who can shut and none 
can open, who can open and none can shut. 
Declaring the end from the .beginning, say- 
ing my counsel shall stand and 1 will do all 
my pleasure. And the Lord can and does 
use man as an instrument in his hands, and 
conforms the sinner to his will and image; 
but the creature cannot conform God to his 

will, purposes and plans; if so it could be, 
God would no more be a sovereign than 
man, each one would be sovereign and sub- 
jects alike. God then by the powerofthe 
gospel carries man's works in him,&c. and 
the creature never has carried the gospel 
yet; for if he was, he would have to carry 
the Lord. 

Beloved, we fear we are swelling this 
ppistle too large for a Circular — we must 
drop the subject, regretting that our limits 
will not allow us to say much more. Then 
in conclusion, dear children be subject to 
thy dear Lord and master, ever manifesting 
the character and disposition of a meek and 
submissive and virtuous bride, for thy ma- 
ker is thine husband. Never disgrace thy 
worthy husband, the bridegroom of thy 
soul, so as to put forth the characteristics of 
an important, assuming, remonstrating, 
brawling, murmuring virago. And never 
suffer your honor and virtue to be trodden 
under foot by begging lazy priests, who 
are exalting themselves above our blessed 
Redeemer, by telling you of the propriety 
of things that he has never told you. Be 
not entangled again in the yoke of bon- 
dage. Each one endeavoring to stand firm 
in your respective spheres, the laity dis- 
charging their duty to the servant, the ser- 
vant to the mistress; and the preaching 
brethren esteeming^ others better than 
themselves, and esteem the Lord above all 
unto whom be honor, praise, power, glory, 
majesty and dominion now and forever. 


Winchester, Tennessee, } 
22nd Jan 1846. $ 

Dear Brethren: 1 once more address 
you on the subject of the grace of God, 
which I understand from scripture to be 
realised by all living, both man and beast, 
also by all the works of his hands; for he 
is Ihe Saviour of all men, but especially of 
them that believe, and lhat he by the grace 
of God tasted death for every man. 

I understand from God's word that there 



was grace given us in Christ Je«n<i before 
the woi'I'l began, I read also that if we 
have not the spirit of Christ we are none of 
his; hence I conclude that none of Adam'.- 
children were beloved out of Jesus, none 
saved out of him, of course none el cted 
out of him. And an ,le<U9 said to Peter 
and the rest, upon thisVoek I will build 
my church, and t!)e gates of hell shall not 
prevail against it. Thus we see all the 
children of men by nature in the same 
condition, and God by the work of regene- 
ration prepares the materials in time for 
the building of his church, using any 
means that he pleases. The disciples say. 
who then can be saved? With men this is 
impossible, b«. t with. Hod all things are 
possible. This was the answer of Jesus to 
them, and I firmly believe every word 
that God has said, and I believe in experi- 
mental preaching and writing, both to 
saint and sinner} that js, the ope under- 
stands spiritual and natural both, while the 
other only understands the natural. 

Now if the subject discussed is not to 
the understanding, we should n"t receive 
jt; Tor instance, a man says that we are 
born into the world holy, and at sometime 
become sinners. Try 'his by your expe- 
rience, sinner, aon 1 see if you can lecollect 
when you had no suffering, or wanted no- 
thing,? If you can't, you may know it is 
a falsehood. 

And to you, dear brethren and sisters 
too, I exhort you not to preach, write, or 
receive any religious idea that cannot be 
brought plain to the experience and un !er 
standing of the weak brother or sister, for 
such things gender strife. I have been ta- 
king the Primitive Baptist I think eight 
years, and have been well pleased with the 
most it contained; that is, I was glad to 
hear how the churches were getting along, 
and to read of the conversions of many, 
and the many trials and difficulties that the 
rhildren of God are incident to in thiwlife. 
I have often had my haicl heart melted in 
to tears, when reading of these ihing«, but 
when it comes to think so ; and giving 

opinions on this scripture, that, or the oth- 
er, aside from experience, I have alwavs 
passed over it; for I saw it would lead to 
controversv, which I am glad as respects 
hard savings ha* been kept mo=tly out. | 
read script'tie for myself, and have a good 
Bible without paying for to have it print- 
ed |ti papers, without it is in close connex- 
ion with experience. 

Yours in the best of bonds Farewell. 


SATURDAY, MAY 3, 1846. 


Pit Isylvmii eminly, Va 
March 2&<h, l§tg. 
Dear Brethrkn and Sisters iiy 
Christ: Grace, peace and truth he multi- 
plied unto you through the spirit of truth, 
which will guide you into all truth.] which 
the General Association of Virginia pays 
no attention to, or knows nothing about. 
This I will show from their Minutes of 
1845, as I have them before me, I .-hal| 
not attend to half their errors in these 
Minutes, as it would take more time than 
I have to spare, and some might say sense 
would be lacking. That I will acknow- 
ledge as concern* grammar, or a great edu* 
cation; for I am likp Peier and John in 
this matter, an ignorant and unlearned 
man as concerns the wjsdom of this world, 
so were Peter and John. §ee A<*ts, 4 ch- 
13 verse. Hence you, my readers, vvill 
not expect much grammar from me, but if 
I write so that , on and the General Asso- 
ciation can understand me, it will be good 
grammar to you, for words only convey 
ideas. Hence if you can understand what 
I write, it is good grammar to ypiij and if 
ihere be any sneaks that are so dull in un- 
derstanding that they cannot understand 
what I write, if he or they will come and 
S"e me, I wjl) take much pains to instruct 
them on this subject. 

But to the proceedings of the Baptist 
General Association, assembled in Lynch/- 



burg, Virginia, May 31- s t, IS 15. See 
Mmutes of the Association, 4th page says: 
'•Resolved, That a committee of seven 
be appojnled to enquire into ami report 
the best means of securing more efficient 
religjnus instruction for our colored popu- 

Now, my brethren and friends, I think 
from reading the above resolution we 
might believe that this body did believe 
that religion is nqthjng more than a sei 
pnce which can be. taught by one to ano- 
ther; and if this is the religion of the 
mem,bers of th.e General Association, I 
pray God to deliver them fiom it, and 
Jteep the colored population from such a 
delusion, if it is his will For we as the 
creatures of Gad pught at all times and pla- 
ces to spy, Lord not my will but thine be 

2nd. See under the head Monday mor 
ning, 9 o'clock, game page, r$ads as fol- 

H I'he committee to whom il has been 
refered, to suggest a plan for the religious 
improvement of the colored population, 

Here, my friends and brethren, you can 
see from the above quotation thct the As- 
sociation believes religion is a science that 
can be taught as any other trade, or why 
should they appoint a committee to sug- 
gest a plan for the religious improvement 
of the colored population, Hence the As- 
sociation does believe that r* ligion can and 
must be taught by one to another, which 
js as false as the devil is false; and if our 
colored people h >ve no better unders and- 
ing of the plan of salvation than this com- 
mittee or Association, my opinion is they 
-will be lost, lost, forever lost. Hence 1 
will ask, where is the committee that can 
suggest a better plan for religious instruc 
tjon than thai of the apostles, and that plan 
is, by grace ye are saved through faith. 
and that not of yourselyes it js the gilt ol 

Here, brethren, you see the committee 
WW wrong by suggesting a plan, without 

they had suggested this gospel plan, by 
grace ye are saved. Yes, colored and not 
colored, are all saved the same way; and 
that way is, by grace through faith, and 
that not of yourselves; no, it is the gift of 
God. Then God has to give grace and 
faith to black and wh;te, and all colors that 
have it. Hence if God does not give grace 
and faith to this committee, and to the As- 
sociation, and to the colored population 
which they say so much about, they and 
the colored population all will go or gel to 
hell, with a|! their religious plans ortrsin- 
mgs. For I tell you, sneaks, it is by 
grace ye are saved through faith, and that 
not of yourselves, it is the gift of Gpd; not 
of works— why? lest any man should 
boast. Why not boast? because, we the 
church of Christ are his (or God's) work- 
manship created in Christ Jesus unto good 
works, which God hath before ordained 
that we Christians should walk in them. 
Ephesians, 2 ch. S, 9, 10 verses. 

But 1 will pass on to the 5th page of the 
Minutes, which reads as follows: 

"Resolved, That it is suggested to chur- 
ches and pastors generally, to hold a meet- 
ing particularly for the colored people in 
the afternoon of every ford's Day on 
which it may be practicable." 

Now, my readers, you have the above 
resolution as it is in the Minutes; and I 
think there js one of two things makes 
those sneaks wish to divide the colored 
population from the others, or to preach 
separately to the colored people; first rea- 
son, perhaps those gentlemen laced-jacket 
sneaks think that there is a plainer or easi- 
er way for colored people to get to heaven 
than there is for others. But I will say to 
you, sneaks, who compose the General As- 
sociation, and to the colored also, that there 
is but one gospel that is worth a negro's 
notice, and that is, repentance towards 
God and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ; 
and that will save white and black, bond 
and free, male and female. Preach this 
gospel to white and black, all at once; and 
it they have the hear ing car, and you sneak? 



speak loud enough, all can hear at once and 
the same gospel will do for white or color 
ed people, if it is the right or true gospel. 

The 2nd reason, why those snpaks wish 
to get the colored people to themselves to 
pretend to preach to them, may he for this 
reason, they wish to got their money and 
are somewhat ashamed to beg the poor 
blacks for their mone}', in so large and 
respectable a congregation as is there in the 
early part of the day; hence they will give 
notice to the colored people that they will 
meet this evening here, and you colored 
people are to come in the house and set 
next to the s!and and I will preach to you. 
And he then sneaks off and gets his dinner 
and comes back and finds a large congrega- 
tion of blacks there and all the people know 
that the blacks are to have the front seats, 
hence they are not (here Then this sneak 
can beg the. poor negroes with a better ap- 
petite, and if cash seems to be very scarce 
he can have a belter chance to tell them 
how to get it, and tell ihem what a friend 
he is to them, and if they do not pay him 
he cannot preach for them, but if you will 
do what you can for the support of the 
gospel I will preach for you,&c. 

This probably is one great cause of so 
much talk about preaching to the blacks; 
but there is a great many other reasons 
that might be given which are no better 

the Primitive, it is for you fo do what yoa 
think best with it. There are a few more 
things in the Minutes that I wish to notice 
before long, and if God will, you may hear 
from me again. Nothing more at present, 
but as ever your unworthy brother in the 
Redeemer of sinners. Farewell. 
( to be continued.) 



Covington county, Mubama, > 
Jan. 18, 1846. $ 
Dearly beloved Editors: Having re- 
ceived the 24th No. of your valuable pa- 
per to-day, I have thought proper to ex- 
press some of my feelings concerning our 
paper. To me it is a source of comfort 
and saiitifaction to hear from the dear saints 
at a distance. I feel gratified to hear from 
old acquaintances and thereby learn their 
residence, &c. and also learn the travel of 
the church all over the United Stales, and 
also see displayed such diversity of gifts 
produced by the operation of the same un- 
erring spirit, and all to profit withal, (viz:) 
doctrine, admonition, instruction in righ- 
teousness, and experience, &c. All which 
is a source of benefit, yet by some it is des- 
pised, and persecuted, and set at nought. 
But our Saviour said, Marvel not if the 
than them I have already given. But I . world hate you, &c. And the religionists 
am as much in favor of colored people go- ' f the day have got up so many systems, 
ing to preaching and hearing preaching and ' names, orders and institutions, and the 
I am as much in favor of their having re- dear knows what, to gel money and de- 

ligion as any man in the above named As- 
sociation; but I am not going (o take the 
work of God out of his hands to do it 
quicker or better, but I am willing to leave 
them in the hands of God who will do 
right, and if he converts one it is done 
right and if man does it or makes them pro- 
fess or will persuade them they have relig- 
ion, all is wrong. And I say brethren, a 
great portion of our pretended preachers 
are nothing but negro spoilers, I mean 
them of the sneak family. 

Dear brethren, 1 have written a little for 

ceive the simple, that it does me good to 
hear men 1 never saw, speak my mind. It 
makes me think 1 am right, when a get 
hold of a communication and find able per- 
sons defending the doctrine I advocate; it 
makes me think of the scripture which 
says, Thy children shall be all taught of 
the Lord, &c. 

So, brethren, if you never hear from me 
any more, continue to write and let me 
hear from you through this medium. I 
should not have wrote now, had it not 
been to send George my remittance. So 



I close (his scrap by subscribing myself 
yours in the bonds of love. 

A few lines of poetry to finish the sub- 

A matter of import I wish to rehearse, 
And so bv your leave I'll put it in verse. 
Come, Primitive paper, and bring us the 

Altho' you're rejected and badly abused. 

So, Editors, all continue to write, 

And pray for the spirit to help you indite; 

That all may redound for the good of the 

Though missions divide and Ishmaelitcs 


Thus may you display those wonderful 

From rivers and lakes to the mountains and 

That all who may see whate'er you record, 
May be brought to agree 'tis the work of 

the Lord. 

I'll tell you the reason I like to peruse, 
This paper which some people so much 

It's so well adapted to fit the complaints 
Of all those adopted, both pilgrims & saints. 

One he contends for the doctrine of grace, 
And one by experience can fill up a sp;ice; 
Another he tells of contention and strife, 
Another describes the bride, the Lamb s 

One urges the duty of Christians at large, 
And by admonition his feelings discharge; 
And so every letter is fraught With some 

By which every Christian can gather some 

And among all those items we'll add up 

the sum, 
And see what an aggregate here will be- 
Here's predestined purpose, election and 

To the heirs of salvation of Adam's lost 

race. D.iNIEL DOZIER, 
His composure; 
Done in haste, 
To suit his taste. 

Georgia,, Fay ette county, } 
February S, 184 6. ^ 
Dear and well beloved Brethren 
and Sisters of the Primitive faith: 1 have 

ventured to write a few lines as I am obli- 
ged to write to forward some money; if 
you think it worthy of a place in your pa- 
per, give it publicity. I am not worthy 
nor adequate to the task, for 1 am poor and 
ignorant, without learning 1 have had al- 
most four months schooling at different 
times, with it 1 learnt to read and write a 
little; and so I spent my time in ignorance 
and sin and folly, sinning a heap and think- 
ing a little. Sometimes I thought I would 
do better, but soon forgol it again. So I 
continued making and bieaking my promi- 
ses till I was more thtn twenty years old, 
when conviction began to get a deeper hold 
of me for sinning. I then began to prom- 
ise more firmly 1 would do better, and I 
began 1o try to do better; but it was a poor 
trial. 1 grew worse and tried harder to do 
better, but grew worse; till 1 began to 
ihink 1 should die and go to hell; for I 
thought I was the worst sinner that had 
ever lived. I knew I had not gone into 
many sinful pursuits that I saw others do, 
but I was a g'eit moral sinner and not obe- 
'lient to my parents; and the slighting of 
my mother's advice and turning a deaf ear 
to her counsel, was then to me more trou- 
ble than all the pleasure I had ever seen. 
For 1 thought the Lord was angry with 
me, and I thought it was right in God for 
me to die and go to hell; for 1 could not 
see how the Lord could remain just and 
have mercy on me, although my prayer 
was, Lord have mercy on me, if it can be 
possible thai mercy can be granted to me 
and thou remain just. 

I did believe 1 was the worst sinner in 
the world, I leared I had sinned away my 
day of grace, and thought that there was 
no chance for me to be saved. I often tried 
to pray, but it seemed to me that my pray- 
ers fell to the ground. 1 thought it was 
almost abomination for such a sinner as L 
was to try to pray, and yet I could not 
help trying to pray. Now about that time 
I cannot tell no man nor mortal my trou- 
bles; my burden lay heavy on me and I 
was a sin sick soul, day and night I was 



sick of sin. My distress I can't relate. It 
seemed to me or to my mind or imagina- 
tion, that the bottomless pit of hell was ga- 
ping wide open just before me, and I on 
the biiuk standing leant forward and noth- 
ing but the merry of God in lengthening 
out the thread oj" life, kept me out of an 
eternal hell. But God's name be ever 
praised, I don't yet know how I cuuld 
have lived if it had not pleased him to grant 
mercy, for my situation was so much worse 
than I can describe it; and how I got faith 
when hope seemed to be lost, may appear 
strange to some. But with such a power 
those words were forced into my mi ad— -I 
am the way, and the truth, and the life — 
that it settled the troubled sea of my mind; 
and it, with the power that attended it, 
seemed to make every thing in the world 
to look new to me. My load of sin seem- 
ed to be gone, the awful pit seemed to be 
behind me, my heart was filled with prai«e 
and love; I loved every thing in the 
world, and if I had had ten thousand 
tongues they could not all have praised 
God enough. For before this 1 thought i 
would have given all the world to believe 
in Jesus and could not, though I had once 
thought I was not an unbeliever; hut I had 
been brought to see I was. And when 
unbelief give way, and my load of guilt 
and sin was removed, Jesus Christ appear- 
ed to me to be my Mediator; and I thought 
1 saw the plan of salvation for all his peo- 
ple so plain, and it was so complete and so 
good, that I could convince ajl the woild 
and get them all to fall in with it and love 
the Lord Jesus Christ. It seemed to me 
that I could see that I was safe in that plan, 
way back in the covenant contract between 
the Father and the Son. And in this it 
seemed to me that he clothed me in a robe 
of his own righteousness that he had 
wrought out on the cross. It seemed to 
me that he took it and laid it all round me, 
and in this I hope and live by hope. Now 
if I ever write again. I may try to give 
some more of my weak expedience. 

Now, kind brethren and sifters, 1 want 

to live humble and lovingly. \ think \ 
hive Christian fellowship for all the Primi- 
tive Baptists, and the others I love; but I 
think they are wrong in. some things, if 
they are, I pray the Lord to right them; if 
I am wrong and they are right, Lord have 
mercy on me and show me the right way; 
for I know I want to be right. I think I 
should love all Christians, yes, and all the 
world of mankind; for if some professed 
Chiistians do what I think to be wrong, \ 
had rather pity ihem and pray for them, 
than to. speak evil of them; for who could 
be more wrong than I once was, and I 
have and do yet suffer so much for doing 
wrong, thai { want all others to do right. 
i remain a,s ever yours I hops in fellowship,. 


Abbeville, Henry cctm/y, Jlla. \ 
Jun'y 5M, 184* \ 

Dear. Brethren: Our unprofitable 
lives have been spared to see the ushering 
in of another year. It has found us on the 
land among the living, and on mercy's 
side of eternity, while many of our friends 
are gone to try the reality of another 

Brethren, it seems that Zion is in a dull 
and lifeless situation, in this part of God's 
moral vineyard. It seems that the enemy 
has slipped in and is about to take the 
prize. Brethren, pray for U9lhal we may 
stand in our lot and contend for the faith 
once delivered to the saints. 

This is a new country, there are but fevy 
churches established. The harvest is great 
but the lahorers are few; the people are ali- 
ens from the commonwealth of Israel. 1 
am living five or six miles from two PrimiT 
live Baptist churches, Salem and Bersheba; 
and ihey are all the Primitive Baptist chur- 
ches nearer than twelve or fifteen miles; 
and but one minister in Dale county that I 
know or can hear from, of the Primitive 
order, and he moved there in December 
last near Bersheba. 

The missionary system has not made its 



advent in this county yet. There was a j rhent, and that there was a daily loss of 
large old one in Abbeville, but iis quirk- 'souls for the want of money lo send ihe 
Sands are giving way and ii is about to fall. I gospel to them. And they were going in- 
Dear brethren, I have been A reader of ] to all the missionary institutions, and I was 
your paper for some lime, and approve of not willing to stand it; and 1 withstood 

them to the face, because I thought they 
were to blame, because their preachers 
wanted to lord it over God's heritage and 
compel every one that belonged to the 
church to pay tribute to them. But I was 
only willing to render tribute to whom tri- 
bute was due, and custom to whom it was 
due. So I had to separate myself from 
them* and there is no church of the Old 
School Baptist order near to me. 

So I am living alone to myself as yet, 
and I thought that I should have to live 
alone the balance of my days; until by 
some means or other one of your Primi- 

the doctrine it contains I have eVeiy rea- 
son to believe that your paper will do 
much good here, and I mj self will act as 
&gent for you in this section of country* 
Yours in Christian loVe. 



Mississippi, Laudtrttnie totinfy. j> 
■January 26/ h, IS4"6 ) 

Dearly !$ELoV>bS After reading some 
eight or nine of your papi rs ami finding in 
them the doctrine which I believe to be 
the very doctrine that is contained in the 
word of (iod, ll seems lo fill my soul with [ti've papers dropped into my neighborhood, 
ianxiety to speak a few things to you thro* j an(1 il w *i handed from one to the other 
the Primitive. 'and it did not suit any of them. So it 

Dearly beloved in the Lord, although I j dropped into the hands of one of my Melh- 

ftrtt a stranger to you all in person t yet I I odisi neighbors, and he hated it so bad that 

hope that we are acquainted in spiritual j l,e fetched it over to me, for he said it 

things. For when I read your gopimiuti^ \ would [just suit me. 

Cations from one to the other, it seems in i So, brethren, I was never more lifted In 

my view to speak of the wonderful works m y ''f" e ,ri «n I was when I read the old 

of God and not of man; and it seems to me ' Primitive; every word seemed to unfold 

that I have the witness within me that the mysteries of the spirit of the gospel. 

bears record of the same, although I stand 
as it were alone in the country where I 
live in point or doctrine, and feel as a lost 
sheep indeed and have to mourn and la- 
ment when I have no one to comfort me 
For it seems to have fallen to my lot as it 

So 1 went to the Postmasier and got him to 
write on for the paper, and you, brethren, 
were good enough to send it to me; and 
now I send you two dollars enclosed in 
this letter, and wish you to send it on to 
me until I direct you to stop And if I 

Was with Moses, when he refused to be I can't pay up arrearages I will direct you to 

called the son of Pharaoh's daughter; but 
choosing rather to suffer affliciion with the 
people of God than to enjoy the pleasures 
ol sin for a season. So it is with me, my 

About four years ago I joined myself to 
a people called Baptists, and lived with I 
them about three years; and during that 
time 1 found that they were of a different 
stripe from what I was, and preached a 
different doctrine from what I believed. 
For they were preaching a general atone- 

stop sending it to me, for I dislike to see so 
many of the Baptists getting in debt for it 
and for other things too, and then not try- 
ing to pay. This is a hurt, brethren, to the 
cause if any thing can hurt it. 

But, brethren, in regard to doctrine I be- 
lieve that God chose his people in Christ 
before the foundation of the world, and 
that, he chose them for a certain purpose, 
and that purpose was that they should bo 
holy and without blame before him in love. 
And not that he chose them because he 



foresaw . that they would be obedient. 
No, for we find that when Rebecca had 
conceived, it was said to her, that the eld- 
est should serve the youngest. And now, 
what was it said to her for? why, that the 
purpose of God according to election 
might stand. Here we find, that it was 
not for works or worthiness which we 
had done, or that God foresaw that we ev- 
er would perform any; but that his pur- 
pose might be fulfilled which he purposed 
in Christ Jesus, before the world began; for 
it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau 
have I hated. What then, says the apos- 
tle, is this unrighteousness with God? God 
forbid. What then is the reason? Hear 
what the apostle says is the reason, when 
he cites your attention away back to what 
God said to Moses, for he will have mer- 
cy on whom he will — here is the reason 
described by God himself, when he spake 
to Moses. Then let us hear the reason as- 
signed by our Saviour — as the Father rai- 
seth up the dead and quickens them, so 
will the Son quicken whom he will — here 
is the reason; why some are chosen and 
others are not, is because it seemeth good 
in thy sight. 

You will give this foolishness a place 
in the Primitive, if you think it will not be 
an injury to the cause; if so, you will cast it 
by with the trash. So, farewell brethren, 
in the bonds of love. « 



Pulaski county, Georgia, \ 
January 30M, 1846. S 
Beloved Editors in Christ: If the 
following is worth a place in your paper, 
you may print it; and if not, throw it 

b y- ... 

You know that it is written in the scrip- 
ture, Ephesians 1 ch., 11 v., who worketh 
all things, after the counsel of his own will, 
that is the Creator, that hath eternal and 
unbounded power. You know, that the 
Creator, who hath almighty power in wor- 
king all things after the counsel of his will, 
could shut up the sea as with doors; and 

make the cloud, the garment thereof; and 
thick darkness a swadling band for it; and 
break up his decreed place, and set bars, 
and doors; and say hither shalt thou come, 
but no further, and here shall thy proud 
waves be stayed. Job 38 ch., 8 — 11 v. 
You know that he who thus worketh with 
the sea, the clouds, and the darkness, was, 
is, and will be, able to govern the minds of 
Cain, and his successors in office; though 
they might be the builders, spoken of in 
in scripture, the council or Sanhedrim at 
Jerusalem, with the popes, kings, empe- 
rors, and Presidents; and thence to the 
lowest grade of human beings, (if these are 
not the lowest;) "for he (God) worketh all 
things after the counsel of his own will." 

These people by holding shut doors, and 
holding councils in the secret chambers of 
darkness, may devise laws to fob the mon- 
ey; they may devise, to put themselves in- 
to office, to be rulers of the fob; they may 
devise to rule the sword; they may devise 
to give laws to both church and State; 
they may devise to rule the printing offi- 
ces; and so they may devise to try them- 
selves by themselves, by their own laws. 
But how do others fare, when they are 
tried by these people for their life, money, 
or property? (this last may serve for a 
hint.) But notwithstanding all this (you 
know) it is written that "man's heart devi- 
seth his way, but the Lord directs his 
steps;" and so "worketh all things after 
the counsel of his own will." 

With regard to God's will, I believe, 
that God has a secret will, a revealed will, 
and a permissive will. God's revealed 
will, was for Abraham to offer Isaac on the 
altar; but his secret will, was to provide a 
ram. It was God's permissive will, for 
the king to take Abraham's wife; but it 
was his secret will, not to allow him to de- 
file her. Recollect, my dear beloved in 
Christ, was Joseph sold by his brethren? 
was he cast into prison? did old Jacob, 
have to weep for his son? did the children 
of Israel have to groan in Egypt? did Job 
have to lose his property and children, and 
then sit in the ashes, under sore affliction? 
did Daniel bear the test of the lion's den? 



and the three Hehrew children, in the fiery 
furnace? And in all those cases, was there 
not an Almighty God, possessed of infinite 
wisdom, as it were, standing by? At any 
rate, the furious king, in the case of the He- 
brew children said: Did not we cast three 
men bound into the midst of the fire? Lo! 
I see four men loose, walking in the midst 
of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the 
form of the fourth, is like unto the Sor of 

And when they came to take Jesus, Pe- 
ter concluded something was about to go 
wrong, and began to fight; but he was told, 
to put up his sword. And again, after Je- 
sus was raised from the dead, two of his 
disciples, as they went from Jerusalem to 
Emmaus, he drew near and said: What 
manner of communications are these which 
ye have, the one to the other, as ye walk 
and are sad? No doubt, but what they 
were sad, and in their communications 
murmured things contrary to the revealed 
will of God, else they would not have 
been rebuked. 

I must let this suffice, for the present, 
and bid you adieu perhaps for life; under 
this consideration, that he hath told you to 
forgive all men, and that from your heart: 
to love one another: to teach all nations: 
to follow him: — for all power, in heaven 
and earth, is in his hands, who worketh all 
things after the counsel of v ,his own will. 
For of him, and through him, and to him, 
are all things. One Lord, one faith, one 
baptism. One God and Father of all, who 
is above all, and through all, and in you 
all. I remain as ever yours in love. 


Pleasant View, Darlington dis. S. C. 7 
March 1, 1846. 5 
Dear Brethren: We send you five 
dollars, as we desire to read your paper; 
for in them we hear from our brethren in 
different parts of our Union. Our hearts 
are rejoiced to hear of the out-pouring of 
God's spirit and the advancement of his 
kingdom. We seem to be here at a low 
ebb, but we feel earnestly engaged to con- 
tend for the faith once delivered to the 

saints. May God pour out his spirit upon 
the different quarters of the earth, and Zi- 
on arise from the dust of the earth and put 
on her beautiful garments, and be travel- 
ling in. the strength of the Lord her God, 
is our prayer for Christ's sake, and yours 
with sentiments of esteem. 



The Christian Experience. L. M. 
Religious show is vain, 

Wiihout the life of love; 
The sinner musl be born again, 
And that from heaven above. 

The spirit works the whole, 

And purifies the heart; 
Amazing giacp, it saves the soul, 

And love it will impart. 

And so he hates his sin, 

And feels that he is lost, 
He thinks that he will now begin 

And count up all the cost 

He prays and strives and tries, 

To keep his maker's law; 
I'll pay this debt, now he cries, 

And so the blessings draw. 
Alas! but soon he cries, 

In trouble and distress; 
To keep the law, in vain he tries, 

The law can never bless. 
He sees his dreadful case, 

And all his hopes are cross'd; 
He finds he must be saved by grace, 

Or be forever lost. 

Macon, Ga. May 6, 1845. 


Elder Wm. Hyman will preach at Joy- 
nei's Meetinghouse on the 2nd Saturday 
and Sunday in May next. 

R D. Hart expects to preach at Ske- 
warky, on the third Sunday in May next; 
Monday, at Morattock; Tuesday, at the 
Schoolhouse; Wednesday, at White Chap- 
el; Thursday, at Concord. The foutth 
Saturday and Sunday, at Angeley's Meet- 
ing-house; Monday, at Hethlehem. 
Appointments for Elder Pur ham Puc- 

July 9th, at Tison's m. h.; 1 I th, at Tar- 
boro'; 12th, at Lawrence's; 13th, at Dtep 



Creek; 1 4th j atKehukee; 18 h, at Joiner's 
Chapel; 18th ami |9ih, at South Quays 
21st, at Joiner's Chapel; 2-lnl, at Log Cha- 
pel; 24th, at Cross Roods; 25lh, at Cone 
to; 26ih, at Great Swamp 
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rott 'tiik rRiiviitive baptisti 

North Carolina. C.B.Hassell, Wi Ili.aMstor, 
R. M. G. Moore, Germanlun. W. w. !VtizeH,/Vy- 
moutk. Beijji Bynum, Nahurtta Depot, H.\vs- 
xi,Averasboro' '. B iifwe II Temple, Raleigh'. Thos. 
Bagley, Smithfielcl. James H. SasSerj Waynes* 
boro'. L. B i Bennett, Heathville. Cor's Cana- 
day, Cravensville William Welch) Abbott's 
Creek, At Bi Bains, Jffi Stanhope. C. Ti Saw^ 
yer, PowtWs Point. H. Wilkerson, Wed Point. J. 
Miller, Milton Park. Isaac. Meekinoand Samuel 
Rogers, Columbia, Wm( M. Rushing, White's 
Stoie. James H.Smith, Wilmington, Jacob Her- 
ring, Goldsbdro', S. Tatum. Elizabeth City, Ad- 
am Hooker^ Salem Vhurchi Abner Lamb, Cam± 
den C. Hi 

South Carolina. Wm. S. Shaw, Hock Mills 
W. B. Vtllafd, Sr. Aiken. M.McGraw, Brown's. 
J. Li Simpson* Wvniisboro , Jr\G/ Bowers, Whip- 
py Swamp, Wmi Nelson, Camden, O, Mat 
thews, Germanville. J C. Lucas, Lexington C, H. 
Amns Hill, Pleasant View. 

Georgia. John McKenney, Forsyth. Thomas 
Afhis, Lexington. John M. r'ield, Macon. John 
W. Turner, Pleasant Hill. Wlliam Trice and 
William D.Taylor, Thomaston. Eara McCrary,- 
Warrcntofii Prior Lewis, Thomasvil/ei I, Las- 
setter, Vernon. Abner Durham, Greenvitts, Geo. 
Leeves, Milledgeville. W.J. Parker, Chenuba. J*P. 
Ellis, Pineville, F. Haggard .Athens. A.Bl (Thomp- 
son, Port Valley, Daniel O'Nee], UliveGrove. Jonn 
Wayne, Cain's, R. S. Hamrick, Carroll/on. D. 
Smith, Cool Spring Moses H. Denman, Marietta 
Jethro Oates, Mulberry Grove. Isham Edwards, 
Marion. Joseph Daniel, Fish's. Ri L. Hayne, 
Lebanon. T. w. Dearing, Cotton River. E, Davis, 
Gretn Hilti 

Alabama. k.Viezion, Belmont. H. Dance anrl 
W. Bizzell, Eutaw. E.Bell, Liberty Hill. I. 
G.Walker, Milton. H.Williams, Ha >ana, J. 
Daniel, Claiborne, B. Daniel, Churik Hilh L 
Carpenter,Sf. Clinton, .),McQiwei\,Lowndesboro'. 
Wm.Talley,J/ou«< Mnriah, B Upehureh, Bene- 
vola. S. Hamrick, Plant ersrille. James S. Mor- 
gan, Dayton. Ruftis Daniel, Jameston, JoelH. 
Chambless, Loweville. F. Pickett, China Grove* 
John w. Pellum, Frank/in, John Hafrell, Mis, 
touri. Wm. Thomas, Gainer's Store. E.M.A- 
mos, Midway' Allen Moore, Intercourse, John 
Bryan, Sr. Fullersville, Benj. Lloyd, Wttumpka. 
N« N.Barrnore, Mill Perl, A. Ilatley, Pin/tula, 
Vincent Williams, Mobile. Young Smith. Eufau- 
la. T. J. Foster, Bell's Landing. Henry Cason, 
Monticello, Henry Petty, Pickem-viWe. I). R. 
P. King, PainesviWe, John whitehead, Jr. Pea- 
sant Mains. M. W. Helms, Bridgev./le. Elly 
Bi Turner, Mbevilte. Thomas Townsend, Fork- 
land. Robert Grady, Bluff Port. R. R. Thoiup* 
sou, Certtreville, Jauies F. Watson, Geneva. 

TbnwBsseK Michael Burkhalter, Jasper, Wm. 
Croom, Jackson. Solomon Ruth, Wesley. Ira E. 

Douthit, Lynchburg, Geo. Turner, Waverly 
Henry Randolph, Sncdysville, Pleasant A. Witt) 
Itusstlvi/le, William McBee, Old Town Creek, 
A. Burroughs, Mbore's X Roads. James Shelton, 
Porlcrsvi/le- Shadrach Mustain, Lewisburg, Na- 
than S. McDowell, Tazewell, Henry Turner, Fay. 
ettevllle. Isaac Mdore, Ripley, James Sailing. 
Bull Run. 6 

Mississippi. William Huddlestoh and Ed- 
mund Beeman, Thomaslbn. Simpson Parks jtriii 
Samuel Canterberry, Lexington. John Si Daniel - 
Cotton Gin Port. Mark Pfewett, Aberdeen, 
Wm. Davis, Houston. C. Nichols, Stump Bridge. 
Wooten Hill, Cooksvil/e, John Davidson, f"ar 
rolltun. Thomas Mathews, Black Hawk. Jan.e3 
Lee, Beatie's Stuff, James T. S. Coekerham, 
Grub Springs, James Crawley, Minghdma. Jos. 
Edwards, Nnr Albany. Thomas C. Hunt, Mc- 
LeotVs. John Halbertj Nashville. Wilson Hunt< 
Stewart's, John Seal lorn. Pleaiurit \toUnt, Johrt 
Kinnard, Daley's W Roads. K. B. Stallings, De- 

Florida. Hartwell Watkins, Monticello, Lew- 
is Tucker. Campheltlon 

Louisiana. Thos Paxton, Greensboro'. JaSV 
Peikihs and Needham Coward, Big woods, hi 
G. McGaugbey, Ballieu's Ferry. Benjamin Gar'-" 
lington, Ngreet. 

■Arkansas. John Hart, Saline. Georrfe wi 
Rogers, Arkade/phia, (I, B. Landers, Union C.Hi 
J, VI. C, Robertson, Foster's, Jonn Honea, Ozarki 

Missouri. John P MeDowt-lt, New Murketi 

Illinois. John Msbury, Lick Creek. 

Indiana, wilson Connaf, Columbia! 

Ohio. John B. Moses, Germaalon, 

Kentucky. W'astmgton Walls, Co-rieliils* 
vilte. Levi Lancaster Canton. Skelton Uenfroj 
Cumber/and Ford. Tandy James, Somerset, IsaaC 
Horn, Rome. 

Virginia. RudolphRc'rer,/??/-;^/-**.?/^. Wm' 
w. V\est, When/ley William Burns, Davis; 
Mills, Jesse Lankford. Bowers's, A. Borer. Edge* 
hill Thomas Klippen Laurel Grove. Thomas 
W Walton, Pleasant Gap. Levi Bishop, Sinclair*: 

Pennsvlvan(a. Joseph Haghes, Gum Trtet 

New York. Gilbert Beebe, New Ventoni 

Amos Hill, 
Wm. Rogers, 
John Salisbury, 
Stephen Jones, 
Joel Philips, 
Elizabeth Gibson, 



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1 Jesse P. Parker, 2 


Mat. Thompson, 1 


Wm. 7'alley, 3 

in, 1 

Rob't D. Hart, 1 

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Printed, and Published by George Howard, 


4t eotut out of Jifer, mg ^roplc." 

VOL. If. SATURDAY. JUNE 6, 1846o No. 6, 



the subject; and it does appear that the 
principle and spirit of the primitive Chris- 
tians is disregarded and trodden under 
foot. I hope not to be blamed for the 
Pleasant Gap, Pittsylvania co. Va. > I course I have taken, there has- been noth- 
March \3th, 1S4G. J !' n S °f an e-irthly nature that has had any 
Brethren Editors: Please publish influence, but quite the reverse. I am 
the two enclosed letters of Win. H. Hall, wel1 apprized of the consequence, and 
the one to Kentuck church first and let was * t0 consult natural feelings I could 
the remarks to Upper Sinister follow. no * do & Far be it from me (o have any 

THOMAS W. WALTON. desire to undo that tie of Christian lore and 
_ affection that has always existed between 

Pittsylvania county, Virginia. us,- but how can we walk together except 

Dear friends composing the church at we agree. I am not only separating my- 
Kentuck meeting house: Sorry am I to self from many of my neighbors and best 
plague you with a message like the pre- friends, whom I have always held in the 
gent. I have to inform you that for some highest regard, and still regard them aa 
time my mind has been much difficulted, such; but it is separating from my own 
having more particularly examined the children. I think I anticipate something 
missionary principle. Having obtained of the feeling of Paul when he said, he 
more information upon that subject, I find could wish himself accursed from Christ 
it impossible for me logo with it, nor did for his kinsmen according to the flesh„ 
I once think our Association would ever And morever my religious life in some de- 
have gone so far. Proselytes and money gree is to be sacrificed, but the fear of be- 
seem to be the objects of that principle; ing turned out of the synagogue doth not 
when there is piping there is dancing, and deter me from that which I conceive to be 
no pipe no dance. 'my duty. Honesty is required in this 

When the Baotists broke off on the day of lo here, and lo there. Glad would 
right and on the left, I thought we should I have been of a letter of dismission, but 
stand as we were; though I was told by knowing as I do that they are refused in 
some we should not. I contended we such cases, I do not ask it; but I ask you 
should, and while under that impression I in the fear of God to erase my name from 
said many things against those that broke your church book. Yours, &c. 

off as I thought without cause. I have re- 
flected much, I have investigated to the 
best of my ability, I have consulted the 
word of God prayerfully, as I trust, upon 


Remarks of William H. Hall to the 

Primitive Baptist Baptist Church' <ti 



Upper Banister, Pittsylvania county, fnies it yet. I attended some of these 

V"it^inia, after he hud Withdrawn 
from Kenluvk church, 

Feeling as [ do thai deception in mat 
ters of religion is an awful thing* and that 
it can profit nothing in the end* I wish to 
relate to you as near as I possibly can, my 
feelings and exercire of mind, and I hope 
you will be candid with me, for let me de- 
ceive, or be deceived, in any thing or eve- 
ry thing else than in matters of religion. I 
was once* as some of you know, a member 
of this church; for the sake of conveni- 
ence, I took a letter and joined at Kentuck, 
where my membership has been ever since, 
till here of late I have withdrawn We 
got. along with peace and harmony until 
the death of our beloved pastor, then the 
spirit of the new institutions which had 
made some effort before, now came like an 
overwhelming flood; but there was a ma- 
jority that stood up in opposition to it, un- 
til we. were lulled as it were to sleep by it, 
there being many arguments in its favor, 
though I think disguised. It was agreed 
that charity, benevolence and love were 
Christian graces; and that withdrawing the 
hand of fellowship was rigid, and manifest 
ed an unchristian spiiit; and that the Roa- 
noke Baptists, standing as they had done, 
getting along with the new institutions as 
they had done, their being entirely free, 
did not make them missionaries. 

When Mr. Plunket was chosen pastor of 
that church, there was a poll held for Mr. 
Falkner. I voted for Falkner, but my 
T'ote was not directed by principle. Mr. 
Falkner said at the time the Dan River 
party left us, he was on the stage preach- 
ing, and he felt it a matter of indifference 
• with him on which side he fell. Mr 
Plunket appeared to be strenuously oppo- 
sed to the institutions of the day, and 1 
think that was the hinge upon which his 
election turned, not long before protracted 
meetings and apparently a powerful work 
commenced. About that lime some began 
to call us missionaries, which all denied 
with our leader in front, and I think he de- 


warm meetings, but from some cause I 
could not enjoy myself as others seemed to 
do; and that caused me to doubt my reli- 
gion more than I had ever done before. 1 
thought it vv.s coldness of affection and 
hardness of heart. Some of our members 
becoming dissatisfied, asked for letters of 
dismission; they were refused, as it was 
said* agreeably to resolutions adopted by 
the Stanton River Association. They by 
asking letters declared non fellowship with 
the church. 

My doubts and fears continued to in- 
crease, while others seemed to be as it were 
caught up to the third heaven in feelings. 
I went to meeting dissatisfied, and there I 
found no comfort; for that which appeared 
to comfort and edify others, was a darkness 
to me that might be felt. 1 often felt sorry 
I had ever made a profession of religion. I 
was often examining what I once thought 
I experienced, and comparing it with the 
Bible, though thnt now appeared a sealed 
book to me. There was nothing so sweet 
now as a crumb from the master's table. I 
sometimes went to hear the old Primitives 
preach, and while half way concealed in 
some corner, I was gathering the crumbs 
which were delightful food to my soul. 
My mind and affections became as it were 
glued to the Bible, anil this passage would 
often come into my mind: "If any mart 
lack wisdom, let him ask God who giveth 
liberally and upbrakleth not." Of which i 
felt the necessity, and the more I tried to 
a»k and the more I read, the more 1 be- 
came convinced that there was a departure 
from ihefiiih. After carefully examining 
and finding out the inability of man, I felt 
I had been acting as unwisely as one of the 
builders of the tower of Babel; and as for 
what man with all his institutions can do ? 
it will prove just as ineffectual. 

'I he difficulty of suffering myself to be 
led off, rather than withdraw the hand of 
fellowship, was bad enough: but now a 
worse presents itself, for 1 found I could no 
more stay in the church where I was, than 



the three leprotic men could stay satisfied 
in the city of Samaria. 

1 had been for a long time a member of 
that church, I had many warm friends 
there, and amongst the rest a favorite 
daughter; and that which I felt compelled 
to do was a hard trial with me, perhaps 
Something like that of Abraham's stretch- 
ing forth his hand — to slay his son. I 

an eye single to the entire, regardless of 
my feelings or of whit I may suffer. 

IV I L L 14 M H. HALL. 


Suwpter county, Alabama, 
February ISth, 1846. 
Dear brethren in the Lord: I live 

talked to some of the members and told j '" a country destitute of the Pi imitive Bap- 
them my feelings, and asked their advice; ] tials, surrounded by a host of Arminians 
but none dul they give, only they hoped I j wh ° contend that there is a possible chance 
would become satisfied. I was asked if I for "" Adam's race to be saved, on this con- 

found any fault of the doctrine advanced. 
Answer, I do; it appears to be linsey- 
woolsey, a mixture of works and grace 
that I do not understand. What objection 
have you to protracted meeting*? Ann, I 
doubt its being at work of God; if it is, I 
am sure I am not a Christian, What have 

diiion, that if they will set to the work, 
the Lord will meet them, or in the per- 
formance of the work or duties they have 
accomplished. But, my brethren, we 
hear of some who sought by the deeds of 
the law, but did not attain, because it was 
not by faith. I fear those that yet seek to 

you against giving money to send the gos-| fin(1 salvation by the deeds of the law, in 
pel to the destitute? Ans. When you give, ! tru,h ' kll0W lbf 7 mi " s | fc And some con- 
give in secret, and your Parker whreh see- j ,eml f;jith to be lhe « ifl ol ' Go(l and the nct 
eth in secret shall reward you openly: and j of ,he creature, hut ! say the gift of God 

when you give, let not the right hand know 

alone, no act of the creature at all. I will 

hat the left doeth— is the language of the i refer you to one passage alone: Looking 


Saviour. 1 think the collect ior-s taimp up 
at large meetings is loo much like sounding 
s trumpet, and it may be there is more 
given to be seen of men than is from pure 
motives. And the salaried given to mis- 
sionary preachers I think is extravagant, 
and a s'rong inducement held out for young 
ment to become preachers rather than work 
for a support. 

I am now standing out doors, no one to 
tell me of my faults and give me advice, 
nor no. one to look to far protection. My 

unto*, the author and finisher of our 
faith. You all know that is scripture, 
without asking where it is Ccntend for 
the faith once delivered lothesaints. Fare- 
well. This is the fir-t time I ever wrote, 
excuse my scattering remarks. 



Jasper county, Texas, 
March I \th, 1H46 
Dear Editors: With the most painful 
mind has been directed to you. I was rai- j diffidence, and fullest assurance of my own 
seel in this neighborhood and was for some weakness want of talents and ability, to 
years a member of this church. I have I perform what, I have now undertaken, I 
come, feeling as I do my prodiga-lity. I think I feel fully sensible, hot to name my 

have asked God to forgive, and hope I 
have received an answer of peace. And 
now if this church can freely forgive and 
receive me into her fellowship, it wfll af- 
ford great relief to my feelings If you 
cannot, not a hard thought will be enter- 
tained by me. But 1 wish you to act with 

war'thfessness and un worthiness. For I 
wa^shipen in sin, and in iniquity did my 
mother bring me forth — all mv comeliness 
passed into corruption. 1 said unto the 
worm, thou art my sister, and unto cor- 
ruption, thou art my mother. But be- I 
what I may, and let my ability be what it 



may, I have snt down to say or try to 
write something for your very valuable 
paper. If you think it will not be a dis- 
grace to it, to give it a place in its col- 

The motive that influenced me to at- 
tempt, or dare to write, is the following— 
I have not seen any thing from the pen of 
a Regular Prede*tinaiian Primitive Bap- 
tist, living in this distant region. And 
thinking that it would be gratifying to the 
few true friends of poor, little, afflicted, 
and not comforted Zion, that sojourn el<e 
where, though it comes from one so dis- 
qualified and unworthy as myself. There 
are a few of the scattered flock of Jesus I 
ihink in this land, (afnr off.) even in thi* 
wilderness desert land. There are two 
little Associations of the Regular Predesii- 
narian Primitive Baptists, in this country, 
where the supremacy and infallibility of 
the 7th beast, was acknowledged and con- 
tended for. lint thanks be to the bl< s*ed 
God our Saviour, that his dominion ami 
power is driven out of this land of liberty 
and freedom. 

The name of the Association that I re- 
side in the bounds of, is called the Louisi- 
ana and Texas Regular Predesiinarian Bap- 
tist Association. 'I here are hut two prea- 
chers of that faith and order in her bounds 
Their names are Gibson and Duiham, and 
they live a hundred miles apart. The 
Lord said in that day, (I reckon he meant 
the gospel day,) that there should be a fam- 
ine not of bread, (nor of water.) but of the 
hearing of the word of the Lord. (Is it 
not so now?) It is so here. The true 
few and faithful watchmen are separated 
far one from another on the wall, and have 
to fight with one hand, and work with the 
other. The enemy has been trying to get 
to build with them, and Israel will not suf- 
fer them. And now they are trying to 
hire counsellors against them, with the 
money, and are doing it. But they cannot 
stop the work, for Christ the spiritual Ze- 
rubabel's hand has laid the foundation of 

or she hath builded her house, and hewn 
out her seven pillars. (The church, the 
pillar and ground of the truth, is the work 
of God.) This woman has killed her fat- 
lings, mingled her wines, and sent forth her 
maiuens, and she stands upon the top of 
high places, &c. But the other woman, 
which is her enemy shall see, and shall be 
ashamed too. 

Solomon saw her as she stood at the 
casement and lattice of his window, in the 
evening, in the twilight, in the dark night. 
Now i« she, (in the truth a little now was 
she out,) she stood in the way to catch pas- 
-en»iers as ihey go right on their ways — 
(not God**) — and she has great success, in 
ratching her own; the foolish virgins, that 
hive neither oil nor vessels to carry the oil 
in, (I have thought faith is the vessel, un- 
feigned faiih.) She has caught an innume- 
rable number of the foolish, and their la- 
bor will not turn out to their own advan- 
tage; lor Solomon says, the labor of the 
simple wearieth every one of them, be- 
cause they know not the way to the city. 
That little city in which thete were few 
men, in which that dear, precious, poor, 
wise man (Christ) dwells. Apollyon may 
beget and spawn, and Jezebel may bring 
forth swarms of flies, frogs, and locusts; 
the flies may bite and annoy, and the frogs 
may croak, and the locusts may dwell in, 
and live on the smoke of the pit; yet they 
never will be able to add one more to the 
body of Christ, of which he is the head; 
neither will they be able to take one from 
it, not one whom he foreknew. 

The army of Gog and Magog is gather- 
ing thick, and the flies, frogs and locusts, 
that were sent to curse Egypt. How dark 
the sun and air is now become, because of 
the smoke of error, which came out of the 
pit. 'I he wings of the locust make a fear- 
ful sound indeed, like many chariots an't 
horsemen running to battle. And indeed 
they are battling against the army of troth, 
the war is now going on in heaven as hot 
as at any time. This army of Gog and 

thut building of wisdom's house-— for he, Ma&og are. not oilv roofing or covering 




over the truth with the mantle, or cover of ed hi* irmge, hy believing and receiving 
error; but as an allied army is composed ! error and falsehood. God had reserved, 
of many nations, so is this army of Gog elected, and predestinated them unto life 

composed of many, or rather all the nume- 
rous denominations bearing the Christian 
name. These all have one mind, as to the 
religious frauds and speculations of the 
day; these are giving their power, (that i", 

and a belief of the truth. 

And there is still a little remnant accor- 
ding to the election of grace, at this time. 
And i think there are a few of them in this 
distant land of Texas. They are as two 

their money,) to the eighth beast, or spirit ; little flocks of kids in the valley, while the 

of persecution, that is now arising under 
his eighth head. The mystery of iniquity 

whole country is full of the Assj rians. 
They are as a garden of cucumbers, or a 

hath or has appeared under seven distinct cott.tge on the wall. The vast Assyrian 
heads before, but now he is appearing tin- , hosts were and still are the unchangeable 
tier his eighth and last head. He will be enemies of Israel. They are gathering the 
the last that ever will rise, he is now rising army of (Jog and Magog fast, by means of 

fast, and will shortly set his foot on the ho- 
ly city, the true church. 

And as Jezebel fed 900 prophets inces- 
santly, so is the mystical Jezebel feeling, 
that is, the false church. O! what a host. 

the monied institutions' ami men made so- 
cieties of the day. 

The two great horns of this beast, the 
eighth beast, like a lamb, beaing a name 
lii>e the religion of Christ. ! am inclined 

what a locust legion of preachers, have to think that the United State* is one of 
gone forth now! How popular and how these horns, and Great Hnlain the other. 

pleasingly are they received by the multi- 

Phese are two of the greatest powers on 

tude. How truth is set at nought, and i 'he earth, and are both Christian powers. 
them that stand in defence of it; theyare'and are both engaged and first to, in the 
hated and counted the off-scouring of all i missionary cause. Under these two great 
things, and all manner of evil is spoken of powers, the three unclean spiris like frogs 
them go forth, which came out of the mouth of 

The two witnesses are now prophesying the beast dragon and f.dse prophet, being 
in sackcloth. I have thought the church the spirits of devils working miracles, go- 
is one of the witnesses, and the true minis- ing forth to ihe kings of the earth, and un- 

try the other. Differ with me and wil- 
come, but give me better light if you 
please, and not darkness, for or in the place 
of light. Ahab and Jezebel thought that 
there was but one prophet of the Lord on 
the earth, and they were not certain but he 
was dead; but that they might be certain, 
they sent messengers and searched every 
nation under heaven, and took an oath of 
the king and people, that he Elijah was 
not there. He was not seen by corporal 
eyes for three years and six months. He 
was a mighty witness for God in matters 
of truth. There were 7000 witnesses for 
God, they were always silent witnesses, 
like silent church members; yet they had 
the witness in their hearts. They had not 
bowed the knee to Baal, nor had they kiss- 

to the whole world, to gither them togeth- 
er unto the battle of lie great day of God 
Almighty. I hese three unclean spirits are 
gathering the army of Gog and Magog, 
which includes the friends of error, dark- 
ness anil delusion. The mission spirit, the 
s|iirit of Hible society, and the spirit of the- 
ological seminaries and Baptist State Con- 
ventions; these three great institutions are 
going or sending forth to the kings of the 
earth, their men made preachers, and col- 
lege made preachers; these are very un- 
clean doing<, for it is not of God, but of 
man; or rather of the devil, as it is not of 

But why were those spirits like frogs? 
Because in the first place they travel like 
frogs, by jumping and leaping at every 



plan, and scheme to get money, to carry 
out their plans o!" speculation. And the\ 
are like frogs, because they are alway» 
croaking fur money, or crying, give, give, 
like the horseleech's two daughters; they 
are crying in the dark, as frogs most gene 
rally do. 

1 would say to my brethren every where, 
arm yourselves with like fortitude, as did 
your primitive brethren, the martyrs; for 
if judgment must first begi-n at the house 
of God, what shall he lie end of them. 
that obey not] the gospel? Now I think 
that the violent spirit of persecution, is go 
ing to take the king lorn of Chi ist again, 
with a storm of per-ecution. And who 
shall be able to stand the fire, for I think 
many will have to burn or give up the 
truth. There are some that will, not give 
up the truth — them that are not of the 
truth, will not burn for it. These tilings 
may seem as idle tales, but Gpd has ,«,aid ! 
so. He has said it^shajl be so, under the ! 
eighth and last beast, for lie is to exercise i 
nil the power of the one before him. And 
he was to cause as many as would not re ! 
reive his mark and image, to be slain, i 
Think of these things, and the Lord give 
thee understanding in all things. 


'hey used to do. I now clo«e my scribble 
by subscribing mvself your unworthy bro- 
ther in the go*p» I and in tribulation. 



Wilcox county, JUabnmn, ? 
ifiprii 22, 1846. \ 
Dear bel'ived Britiiren, of the Pri- 
mitive or 01 1 School order: I have been a 
constant reader of your little messenger 
the Primitive paper, and it is a bundle of 
goud news from a lar country to me; and 
when I look over some of my precious 
brethren's communications, I am made to 
rejoice to hear from the different parts of 
the United Sfates, and find that there are 
some that are contending for the truth as I 
do believe. And I should be glad to hear 
fiom old brother Tillery, if | may use the 
language of brother, and all of Hie breth- 
ren, brethren, the society folks don't 
maLe so much fuss now about money as 


Jusper. Tennessee, } 
Feb 15/A, 1S46 \ 
Very dear Brethren: I hese line* 
are chief! v to let you know that. 1 have 
moved from my former residence in the 
neighborhood of Theeksville, into the 
neighborhood of .laspi»r; and 1 now say to 
all persons who may wish to correspond 
with me by fetter, to address me at Jasper, 
Marion county, Tennessee. 

1 will also inform you, brethren, that 1 
have no doubt but that the Primitive paper 
has done some good in many parts of the 
United States; but in this section of the 
country I cannot say it has done much 
good, for the missionaries have tried their 
skill here but they were nipt in the bud, 
and 1 have not heard of a missionary prea- 
cher in this county for some time. 1 wish 
the writers in the Primitive to write on, 
and u) all their writings to keep their eye 
on the pole star, the sacred text book, the 
word of God • 1 have found several pie- 
ces published in the. Primitive that appear- 
ed to me to be strange things, a doctrine 
in my judgment new among the Old Bap- 
tists; it is called among; us Pailierism, or 
the two seed doctrine. But the doctrine 
of unconditional election, according lo the 
fort knowledge, and purpose of God the 
Father, is a doctiine heartily received 
among the Old Baptists'; but it is despised 
by all the Arminian host, and we that 
preach it are called narrow-hearted bigots, 
and they say of us that we will soon come 
to nothing. But we hope in the Lord, be- 
lieving that the Lord's time always was a 
good time. We believe the Lord is the 
same Lord that was the leader and suppor- 
ter of ancient or national Israel. Some- 
times the people of that day, and even 
some of the prophets of the Lord, thought 
that their enemies had prevailed over 



them; but in a time of extremity the Lord 
told Elijah that. he had seven thousand that 
had not bowed the knee to the image of 
Baal. And we still believe the Lord has 
a people among us, and is making them 
manifest once in a while. The report from 
the churches at our last Association showed 
pome thirty odd baptisms in the last year, 
so we are encouraged still to trust in the 

I will in conclusion say in particular to 
all my relations that are readers of the 
Primitive, that I am able to pay postage ol 
letters, and that 1 have. not received a line 
from any of you in two years. 

1 am with due respect, yours in Christian 




Pike county, Jllahami } 
Jan.' 1 51 h, 1846. $ 

Deah Brethren: 1 herein, send one 
dollar for the present year's Primitive 
The reason why 1 still want to take the. 
paper is, that I can hear from the Old 
School Baptists throughout the United 
Stales, that they sljiJ contend for the faith 
once delivered unto the saints. 

I say to you, my dear brethren, 1 am 
now seventy-three years of age, and I hive 
been an Old School Baptist furty-seven 
years, and 1 know nothing hut the Old 
Bredestinarian Baptists, who professed to 
be the elect of God, chosen in Christ before 
the world began, through sanctiftcatibh of 
the Spirit and belief of the truth. 

Pear brethren, farewell. I am struggling 
througli life with many temptations and 
trials, hut hope to meet you in a world 
where trouble and trials will be no more. 
A mem JOHN SPEIR, Sen. 


Hickory Grove, Bibb county. Ga ) 
April 18/A, 1846. 5 
Beloved Brethren: Knowing that I 
have to send on for my advance for the 
Primitive, I take the present opporinnity 

of sending you a few lines exprps«ive of 
my views on the subject of the strong man 
Samson, who was the son of Manoah, a 
Danite. After his mother hul been a long 
time barren, the angel of the Lord Jehovah 
appeared to her, and told her that she 
.should have a son, who should begin to 
deliver Israel out of the hand of the Phi- 
listines, who then had begun to oppress 
ihem. Me ordered her to drink no wine 
nor strong drink while in her pregnancy, 
nor to eat any unclean thing; and to give 
the child to God, and to raise him up strict- 
ly a Nazarite. She went and told her hus- 
band what had happened. He prayed the 
Lord to send the messenger again, that he 
might receive farther instructions concern- 
ing the child, God sent his angel again to 
show the man as well as the woman, con- 
cerning this extraordinary child. They 
begged the angel would stay a while till 
they could make a feast for him. He told 
them he would not eat any of their meat, 
and told them to offer their sacrifice to. the 
Lord. He told them his was a secret 
name. They knew not from whence he 
came, until they offered their kid on the 
rock as a burnt offering to the Lord; and 
he ascended to heaven on the fire and 
smoke. So then Manoah thought to die, 
because he had seen an angel; but his wife, 
more wise than he, told him better; that 
God had no mind to kilt them, or he would 
not have accepted their sacrifice. 

Now 1 have taken this preamble, in or* 
der to biingyour minds to bear on this ex* 
traordinary man Samson. Now 1 shall 
step hack to Abraham, in order to show' the 
first appearing of angels lo men, 1st. We 
learn that three appeared to Abraham, 1q 
confirm God's promise to him that Sarah 
should have a son, (Isaac,) and also to de- 
stroy Sodom^ 2nd, Moses's case af the 
fire in the bush — and so pass on to the case 
in hand. Now the next and 3rd case that 
most concerns us in our subject, is the case 
of Zachariah, the priest in the temple. 
While officiating in his office, an angel ap- 
peared to him and told him that his wifa 



Elizabeth should hare a *on, and he should 
Call his name John, &e. Our 4th ease i- 
the ease of the angel Gabriel, being d,is 
patched from heaven to a city in Gallilee 
eajled Nazareth, to the virgin Mary, &c. 
Read at your leisure. 

Now from Genesis to Revelation, I do 
not recollect but four cases where BPgeJs 
were sent to give information ot extraor li 
nary births of children. 1st. Isaac 2nd. 
Samson- 3rd. John the Haptist. -Kb. 
Our M>rd Jesus Christ. Now what I am 
about to try to show is, that th.e subject of 
my communication (to wit, Samson,) 
will bear a two fold t\ pe or the shadow of 
a two-fold substance. 1st. I shdl endea 
vor to use him as a type of our Lord Jesus 
Christ, on the account of his extraordinary 
conception and birth, in the angel's* appear- 
ing to his mother, informing her that she 
should have a son, and the wonderful man- 
ner in which he should begin to deliver Is- 
rael from under the hand of the Philis- 
tines, who then had the power over them. 
Also his wonderful strength, 'ha't no rouls 
could hold him. that he could slay them by 

conception with Samson, we all must 
;igree that he whs commissioned by the 
God of heaven to pi each in the wilderness, 
and to baptize in the name of one who 
should come after him. Anil we find that 
the inhabitants of Jerusalem and Judah 
Mocked out lo hear him and to be baptized. 
Next we hear that Jesus came from Gali- 
lee to John, 10 ha hap;izcd of him., &c. So 
we find there never has been a greater 
sight seen, than took place on this occur 
sion. The holy spirit descending in a bo- 
dily shape like a dove, and alighting on the 
Saviour's head in token of Gfld's approba- 
tion of this ftte it and glorious nle; by a vo- 
cal voice from heaven declaring him hi* 
beloved Son, in whom he was well plear 
sed. &c. 

Hut let us follow on after John a liitle 
farther, and .see whete we find him. Why 
we find hi i) in prison, but not only SQ, in 
doubts and fears respecting the Messiah, 
whether he had come or not. For Herod, 
which I shall use as a type of the devil, 
had ihteifeted with John and cast him into 
prison. He like Samson had long hair at 

thousands; and when they lay in Wait lor fiis', but Herod, like Delilah, had trimmed 
him at Gaza, he could ri-e at midnight and his locks. Now he s n(\» two disciples to 
bear the weight of their city gate to the 

top of the hill; and also in his (hath he 
slew more that] in his whole life, by lorn 
ing 07er dagon's temple. D"es not this 

Christ, to know whether he was the Mes- 
siah or not. Now I shall use the Philis- 
tines, Delilah, and "Herod, as types of the 
world, the fie-h, and the devil. Now a 

prefigure our Lord Jesus Christ, in his, word to my preaching brethren. VVa 
most wonderful conception and; his ', should always try to be wide awake, in or- 
great temptations and priva'ions he e„du- I Her to Wat. h those three grand enemies; 
red, in magnifying his Faihei's law in ih : ej"fl»P.v always >et theii Hap lor the bluest 
room and stead of his people; also in bear- V'»ver, and when they get one they .e 

ing the heavy rros<= up « alvary's ragged ;j l * ice over him vyil11 P'-eal joy. ami stnt * 
hill, in order to die the death due lo h is 
people for their sins 

O wondrous grace! what tho't can trace, 
Thjs great and glorious plan; 

That God should send, his bosjm fiiend. 
To rescue fallen man. 

Now 2nd, | shall endeavor to hold up 
Samson as a type of (he preachers of the 
gospel. 1 shall commence with the first 
preacher under the gospel dispensation, to 
wit, John, the baptist. Of a wondeiful 

uilis to one another. Now I am an old 
man, in my threescore and tenth year. I 
have se'en a great, deal, and leainta little. 
1 have seen preachers die as I thonghi in 
the prime ol" their usefulness, and I won- 
dered why it was so; and in a conveisa- 
ifo« wiili an old brother preacher, he told 
me that lie thought that God killed some 
preachers to keep them from killing them- 
selves; and others he lei them alone to kill 
themselves, as an example to others that 


pmmitivk baptist. 


might come after. Now 1 must dismiss 

the subject fur the present Yours in tin 

tjonds of love BENJJiMIS MJi Y. 

Some poetry now to close the subject, 

Delilah's Lop. C. M. 
Samson was strong, be lasted Jong, 

Until he kill'd himself; 
So he was great, and Gaza's gale, 
Was hardly by him fell. 

Delilah's lap, a dangerous trap, 

When we get taken in; 
Wp lie and sleep, and then we weep, 

When we awake again. 

fie bore the weight of Gaza's gate, 

High tip Phjlistja's hill; 
Then laid it down, "iihout the town, 

And onward travel 'd still. 

We think we will, do better still, 

And so get safe at last; 
J3ut soon we find, we are inclin'd, 

To travel on too fast. 

He told his strength, till th^y at length, 
Found o«l his locks of hair; 

Then in disguise", put out his pyes, 
This was their only care. 

They shav'd his head, & tho't him dead, 

So then they held a feast; 
They then did call, their lords and all, 

From west as well as east. 

Pbilistia's band, around him stand, 

And so they had their fun; 
Till he at length, receiv'd his strength, 

And turn'd them upside down. 

God's people all, both great and small, 
Shall conquer when they die; 

They will be found, on ground. 
And reign with Christ on high II M 


SATURDAY, JUNE 6, 1846. 

We are unable to supply new subscri- 
bers with the back numbers of the present 
volume— -th^y can receive enough of next 
year's numbers to make up the deficiency. 


say, brethren, may grace, mercy and peace, 
from God our Father — not every body's 
Father, but our Father, or the church's 
Father, or Christians' spiritual Father — 
hence he is our spiritual Father, or Father 
of the Christian's life. So he is God our 
Father, and Je«us Christ our Lord; hence 
he is our spiritual Lord, or the Christian's 
Lord in spirit and in truth; but in this 
sense he's not every body's Lord, but 
Lord of the church, or our Lord. Hut in 
another sense he is Lord of the dead and 
living, for he rules and superrules all 
things in heaven, hell, and on earth; he is 
Lord of all Uut ihe text says, our Fa- 
ther, alluding to the saints, or church, or 
children of God spiritually; hence he is 
our spiritual Father. See 1st Timothy, 
2nd verse. 

I will now notice the Minute* of the 
General Association, as I promised to do 
in my last letter. See Minutes, 5th page, 
reads as follows: 

•'Resolved, That it is recommended to 

the churches of 'his Stnte, to me their en- 
deavor* to hti:ig the colored race under tlTe 
influence of the temperance reformation." 

Now 1 will say to the Association, or 
tho^e sneaks who compose that bod) - , if 
you mean for ihe churches of this State to 
bring the colored people under the influ- 
ence of the ab-trnence or temperance socie- 
ty, or cold water club — 1 say, if ihat is 
what you are alter, you -had better recom- 
mend the chinches of this Mate to abstain 
fiom strong drink first, before you teconv 
mend them to gel the. colored people to ab- 
stain. For I hold ii to be the duty of eve- 
ry church to do first, what they recommend 
others to do; and I should not like to see 
or hear of a man encouraging another to do 
that he would not do, and tell him at the 
same time it is what all should do. This 
is like sneaks, and if all the churches were 
lo obey this request under the present cir- 
cumstances, they or a number of them 
would act in ihe same sneaking way. 

See 7> h page reads as follows: 

Pillsylvunit cmtnli/. Va 
»ipril 1 lih, 18 16. 
Dear Brethren, and all friends to 
Jruth: 1 again wish lo address you on the 
»ll-importmt subject of religion, and will "Resolved, That this Association will 



present a petition to t Vie next Legislature, 
praying that body lo grant us an act for its 

Here % my friends, and brethren, and fel 
low citizens of this State and of the United 
States, 1 call upon you ail to look at this 
matter and say, if there is any good reli- 
gion in such a petition as this to the Legis- 
lature. There is not any good about it, for 
ypu know, my friends, that there is a law 
to protect the Genera!, Association as far as 
there is to protect any oilier religious body 
in our Stats; and our laws do protect- all 
alike,and give all the liberty of conscience, 
and preserve to each the liberty of wor- 
shiping God agreeably to' their own con- 
science. This has been law enough for 
Christians a long time, and is yet enough 
for Chiistians; but the devil and his lack- 

we give these sneaks this law power, they- 
will attend the sick close, if they think; 
there is any thing to will; and I fear if this 
law power is granted them, that few wiH 
die that have property before some of those, 
lackies will see them and try to get them to, 
will something lo this Association. 

Then I will say to my fellow citizens of 
this State, keep your eyes on, such sneaks 
and vote against every man that is in favor 
of such power to be given to any society 
on earth,, i would not support any man in, 
our State that woujd; say he wanted' the- 
old fashioned Baptist church or Association, 
incorporated by law; no, I would not, for 
that church is incorporated by a higher 
power than that of law, for it was incorpo-. 
rated in heaven and that before the worldi 
was made, by the Father, Son, and Holy 

ies are without gospel pov\er, hence they Ghost in a covenant contract between those- 
want to get law power just like this Asso- I three; and Jesus Has done what he under-. 

cialion does want our Legislatuae to incor- 
porate that body by law, and then they can 
have power to collect any amount of money 
they can get willed to their Association. 
And now they cannot, and, it is right to 
keep them so, they cannot collect that 
which is willed to then); for if we give 
them power to collect by law all they can 
get willed to their .Association, they will 
not quit at begging the living, but they 
will beg as it were the dead, or dying man 
or woman, to will something to their Asso- 
ciation; and every old man or woman they 
find in their dotage, they will beg them to 
will their Association say $500, or Si 000, 
and the donor dies and his or her will is 
found, and the legal heirs who have work- 
ed hard to make this property, and were 
willing for their father to enjoy ii as long 
as he lived, hut he lives to be very old and 
his children have to take care of him, and 
he is in his dotage, when one of those 
sneaks comes on and begs him to do some- 
thing for the support of the gospel before 
he dies and so gets him to will the Associ- 
ation $1000, and the law gives it to them 
against the will of the legal heirs who wor- 
ked hard for it. This is not right, and if 

took to do, and th,at was lo come into, this 
world and to take on hims£lf our nature, 
sin only excepted;, and to. suffer in, our- 
stead or law place even the death of the- 
cross, which he did. and hence the church 
of Christ is incorporated ever since Jesus 
covenanted for her- Sal think, and. so, 
I say. 

And as for those sneaks who, are peti- 
tioning the Legislature to incorporate 
them, they only disgrace God and honor 
the devil; for the church of Christ has 
been incorporated, more than 1 800 years 
ago, and that by God the sovereign king, 
which I will prove. See 2nd Timothy, I 
ch. 9 verse: Who hath saved us and called 
us with a holy calling, not according to 
our works, but according lo his own pur- 
pose and grace which was given us in 
Christ Jesus before the world began.. 

Now, brethren, we will notice the text 
which was written by Paul, which says — ■ 
who saved us. Here who, means God 
hath saved us; not will save us the church, 
but hath saved us, or the church of Christ. 
Hence the text stands thus: God hath sa- 
ved the church, not will save the church if 
the preachers can get them in the straw 



pen, or to an anxious seat; no, not so, for 
tlie text says: Who haih s;.ved us — in the 
past tense. Hence the church is or was 
saved long ago. When? say some. Why 
the text says; Before the world began. 
Hence this church, or us, spoken of in ihe 
text, was incorporated before ihe world 
began. Hence our modein l.dimaelites 
are a long way behind with their petition, 
which I hope they will never get. 

But to the text: Who hath saved us and 
called us with a holy calling. Here you 
see they the church were saved before 
they were called, hence they were saved 
in the covenant contract, when and where 
the Father gave them to his Son before the 
world began, in eternity; and now. in time 
he God calls them and draws them .to his 
Son by the operation of his Spirit on them. 
And this is done according to his own will 
and purpose in time, for God says: 1 have 
loved you, meaning the church of Christ, 
with an everlasting love; therefore with 
loving kindness I have drawn you, or those 
that he gave to hi* Son in covenant. And 
those given in covenant are the all that are 
spoken of in the text, for Christ says him* 
self that all the Father give him shall^- 
not may— come if they do thus or so; no, 
but shall come to me. 

And again; No man can come to me ex 
cept the Father who hath sent. me draw 
him. See John, 6th ch. 37 and 44ih ver- 
ses. Here we see they must be drawn jn 
lime to Christ, but arc saved in eternity by 
Christ's covenanting for them; fur all that 
the Father gave him in covenant he -draws 
to him, and no more. Hence those Free- 
willers that do not believe in God's call- 
ing or drawing his people to repentance 
have no part in this covenant, for they say 
all can come to Christ an J n?f)i\ not wait 
for lo be drawn; and so make out that 
Christ has lied. No, say they, we believe 
that God draws all; but they won't come. 
So you still make out that Christ has lied. 
but 1 think il is you sneaks that do lie, for 
you are given to il. 

Again, see the text says: Not according 

to our works, but according to his or God's 
own purpose and grace, which was given 
us — notice, not the world, as some would 
have it; no, but given us, or the church; 
and that grace was given us in Christ Je- 
sus before the world began, brethren. 0, 
say some, this is the old plan of salvation 
by grace. I say yes, and the only gospel 
plan that ever was or ever will be: For I 
am God and change not. Hence no change 
in God's plan of saving sinners. 

I mu>t stop, my sheet is full of some- 
thing for you lo di-pose of as you please. 
As ever your unwor;hy brother in Christ. 
So farewell, brethren. 



Pin 1 1 (i In. Jilahama, ) 
Jiin'y 25/A, 1846 ^ 
Dfar Editors: I am yet pleased with 
*he Primitive Baptist, the contents of which 
i-i a source of gratification when I read 
them. I shall be satisfied with ihe new 
arrangement, provided I get them once a 
month. May the Lord cause his blessings 
richly to abound lo you and yours. 
Yours with es ! epm. 


From the Christian Index. 

Southern. Polemical Recorder t -^We 
publish a prospectus for a new semi- 
monthly periodical which it is proposed to 
publish under the above title; also the let- 
ter of the editor, as requested. We know 
nothing of the editor, but presuming that 
he is a regular Baptist, in good standing 
with our anti-missionary brethren, we 
commend both his letter and his prospectus 
to the attention of our readers. A periodi- 
cal conducted upon the principles laid 
down in the prospectus, we think would 
ha likely to do great good. The views, 
feelings and motives of missionaries and 
anti-missionaries are often misunderstood 
and misrepresented, greatly to the preju- 
dice of that brotherly love which should 



ever subsist between us. We would sug- 
gest to our brother, that it would greatly 
facilitate the obtaining subscribers among 
us, if it were known that prominent breth- 
ren of his order, such as the brother Par- 
kers of the Harmony Association, appro- 
ved of the undertaking. Bro. C. A. Par- 
ker hasmade himself known to many of 
our readers by his mild but able defence of 
his brethren in our columns. — Though we 
differ from him, we respect his abilities 
and love the-spirit which he has evinced. 

Columbus, Jlpril 3d, 1846. 

Elder J. S. Baker, — Dear Sir, — Think 
it not strange to receive this communica- 
tion from one, that you, in all probability 
never saw. The object of it is to open 
correspondence with you. 

lam an Old School Baptist, but strictly 
speaking, I believe that I am a missiona- 
ry, though not of modern order. 

I have thought proper to publish a 
prospectus, (one of which I herewith 
send you,) for the purpose of open- 
ing a correspondence with religious de- 
nominations in general, for the discus- 
sion of all religious subjects. I trust, 
therefore, that all will feel a freedom to 
write on any subject they may think prop- 
er. We shall expect them to take the 
liberty to point out our errors, (though, 
trust they will do it in a friendly manner,) 
while we shall claim the liberty of acting 
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Itor, THOS. GUICE, at his expense. 
Columbus, Ga., March 7, 1840. 


Henderson county, Tennessee. ) 
JJpril S29M, IM6 S 

Dear brethren of the Primitive order, 
Th:»t compose the church at Upper Banister 
meeting house, Pittsylvania county, Vir- 
ginia: I am jjlad m see the stand tliii \oti 
have Oaken against the missionaries in your 
church and section of country, and as \ ou 
ate sensible that msnism and error, in all 
their forms, a>e assiduously and somen h;it 
successfully propigiied. I consider it need- 
ful for us U) he on our watch, and contend 
earnestly for the faith which was once de- 
livered Unto the saints 

The Primitive B.ipii-ts in this and ma- 
ny other countries, are continually abused 
and charged with the crime of bigotry, for 
irying to keep the monev- fanglers from 
among them; hut we are right for so doing. 
for the Bible is the true standard by which 
all religious principles are to be tried, and 
nothing should be done or practiced in the 
church of Christ, unless we have thus saith 
the Lord for it. The pattern by which 
we should act and be governed, is- laid be 
fore us in the example of the first churches 
which acted under the immediate direc- 
tion of the inspired apostles themselves; 
and we should always recollect that an 
apostolic example is equal in authority lo a 
positive precept. 

beginning at Jerusalem from thence the 
apostle* and great itinerant evangelists is- 
sued forth, publishing the gl9d tidings of 
salvation in the name of the Lord Jesus; 
wherever their labors were effectual, and 
Jews and Gentiles were called to the obe- 
dience of faith, they were united together 
in fellowship. I he church at Jerusalem 
was formed the evening alter our blessed 
Saviour ascended to heaven, in an upper 
room, and consisted of about a hundred 
and twenty believing men anil women; and 
we are informed that the believers, who 

constituted the first churches, were of one 
tie irt and of one mind, steadfastly conten- 
ding in the apostolic doctrine and fellow- 
ship, and in breaking of bread, and in 
prayer; and the multitude of them that be- 
lieve I were of one heart and of one soul. 
Such was the happy and united situation 
of the Primitive churches-, before man- 
errors and the traditions of men disturbed 
their repose, for they were all of one heart 
and of one mind and of one soul; and it 
is so to Ibis day and will be until the end 
of time. The man-errors that have crept 
into the churches are not the churches; and 
I am glad to hear you aie apprised of that, 
for you may depend the missionaries are 
wolves in sheep's clothing; they will de- 
vour widows' houses and for a pretence 
make long prayers; and if it was possible, 
i hey would deceive the very elect himself. 
They will even wrestle money from the 
pockets of the poor, and they will even 
condescend to beg money from the negroes, 
and 1 am of opinion they will induce ihem 
to steal; for I have been informed that they 
have been stealing chickens lo sell to get 
money for the missionaries already. And 
ihey ought to quit begging money from 
Ihem. and Selling them ihe money is not for 
themselves, it is for ihe Lord; for the Lord 
wants nothing that is stolen. 

And, brethren, we are commanded from 
such to turn away, and not to give them 
money; for they are like their father the 
devil, they are liars from the beginning. 
Although they may by chance tell the 
truth, yet it is a lie to Ihem. Their watch- 
men are all blind, they are all ignorant, 
ihey are all dumb dogs; yea, they are 
greedy dogs, which cannot have enough. 
And they are shepherds that cannot un- 
derstand, and they all look to their own 
way, every one for his gain from his quar- 
ter. They are sons of the sorceress, the 
seed of the aduherer and the whore. They 
are children of transgression, and a seed of 
falsehood; they go forth as soon as they are 
born, speaking lies. I hey used to com- 
pass sea and land to make one proselyte, 



and after thry had marie him, he was two- 
fold more a child of hell than they were 
that made hirm 

Brethren, they are sei penis, they are a 
generation of vipeis, and how can they es- 
cape the damnation of hell? For they are 
worse than their ancestors were if possible, 
for instead of compassing sea and land to 
make one proselyte, they have learned a 
faster way of making them; for sometimes 
they make fifty in one night, and we can- 
not be too much cm our watch,- for I tell 
you it is a hard matter for us to understand 
all the windings of ihe forked-tongued ser- 
pents. And wc may think they are all 

closely, you can almost see their shear's 
sticking out of their pockets. And they 
do make the people a greater promise than 
their father the devil made our Saviour, 
when he took him on the pinnacle of a 
mountain and shewed him allihe kingdoms 
of ihe earth. The devil only promised our 
Saviour temporal things, if he would fall 
down and worship him; arfd we hear his 
children doing worse than that. They say 
to the people, if they will do thus and sd 
and give us a Utile money ,■ you shall have a' 
spiritual regard for it; and if they have' 
any spirit at all, it is an evil one. 

Brethren, our opponents sometimes 1 

done and will not trouble us any more, ' flourish, but we should not be discouraged 
and as soon as they think we have laid .at that, for when the w irked spring as the' 
down our arms of warfare, they are up to grass, and when all Ihe workers of iniqiii- 
their arms again and are harder to subdue J ty do flourish, it is that they shall be des- 
than ever. And we must not sleep at our tro'yed forever. They try 10 induce' us to' 

post, or rest upon our oars; for if we do. 
we know there is danger of our enjjUrties 
getting the advantage of us.- For when the 
good man slept, the enemy came and sow- 
ed the tares among the wheat. 

Brethren, our opponents remind me of a 

believe they are a very prayerful set, and 1 
will say a gieat deal of something like' 
prayers, and ihey say they pray for us their 
enemies; but k is not so^ we are not their* 
enemies. And there never has been a mis- 
sionary prayer prayed upon earth, and ir¥ 

buzzard; ihey have no u«e for a pure and | fact never will be; for prayer to Almighty 
a sweet piece of meat, but as soon as it be- I God consists of nothing but truth,- and if 
comes » little rotten like themselves, then they ate commanded at all to pray, it is by 
it suits their taste and how quick they will then father the dj vil, for his works they 
partake, of it. Brethren, they do not feed \ will ilo'. 

the good flick, for such food as- they j Hut, brethren, Israel's God does no* 
and partake of a sheep will not eat; but a ! command us to pray for this people; for he 
wolf in sheep's clothing would eat any ! says to you, Fray not for this people for 
thing they would offer him. I hoard of their good. When ihey fast, the Lord 
two of them riding together and found a says he will not hear their cry; and when 
sheeo in the mite, ami ihey concluded that 'they offer burnt offerings and oblation, he 
it would never do to leave the poor crea- will not accept them. But he says he will 
ture in that condition; they got down and con-time ih<*m by lbesword,and by the fa- 
threw some chumps and one of them walk j mine, ami by ihe pestilence, 
ed in to the sheep and look hold of the j Our opponents have abundance to say 
fleece and pulled out his handful and .-fuck j about man's being a free agent to act for 
it in his pocket, and confirmed doing <o urv- | himself,, and his salvation or damnation de- 
til he got all ihe fl ere off the she-p. and pemls gr a- ly upon his as they say good or 
then turned to his brother and said, ihey evil deeds And if man was kfl entirely 
had as well let it alone for ii was of no ac- to himself, he never could or would be sa- 
ronnt no how, and off they went and I Hi. vedj for he cannot even think a good 
the sheep in the mire. The fleece is what thought, much less perform a good deed, 
they are after, and if you will notice them And 1 have seen as many tauie wild geese, 



and as many white blackbirds, ns I ever 
have seen free servants or free agents; and 
there is no agent free, for lie is bound to 
act according to directions given him by 
\vhom he is agent For. 

'i most quit. My health is bad, and has 
Wen for eight or nine months, and at this 
time 1 am scarcely able to set up. 1 re 
tnain yours in the bonds of love. 

/?. N. WALTON 

Neg?'eet, Sabine Parish, Lnuisiaria 

February 10, 1^46 
Beloved Editor*: So long as 1 can spare 
'one dollar and continue to like ihe Primi- 
tive as well 3S I have heretofore, 1 for one 
wi>h to be your reader. Though ii is true 
th'Te are some few in this bewildered 
country, that would like lo read your paper. 
but they do not feel able io pay for it. Hut 
a very large majority of professed Bap'is's 
of this country would much rather pay or 
give their money lo an hireling, who has 
two horns like a lamh hut speaks like a 
dragon, than to give their money for a pa- 
per which would tell them the truth, lint 
the comfort, and consolation that \ have re- 
ceived from reading the Primitive, is such 
that I desire to continue to read it. Wjih 
respect, yours. BENJ GARL1NGTUN 

Fro*tt the Western Predestinarian Baptist. 


The Wabash District Association of 
Regular Predestinarian Baptists now in 
session, at the GladyFork meeting house, 
Lawrence county, 111. To the several as- 
sociations with whom she corresponds sen- 
deth this, her Annual Epistle of informa- 
tion. Dear Brethren in Christ: — 
Through the unceasing kindness, of the 
great giver of all good, we have past the 
many difficulties of another year; and have 
met in an associated capacity, where we 
have heard from most of the churches, 
which compose our body; and al- 
so the associations of our correspon- 
dence. The represention from our chur- 
ches, has been small, which seems to be 
on account of Sickness; our churches com- 
plain of coldness, but are mostly in the en- 
joyment of peace; and a small ingathering 
among some. And while other sects are 
boasting, of large ingatherings,we wish to 

be contented, with the increase that 
God is pleased to give us, for it is 
God that giveth the increase. There 
seems yet to be some difficulty, between 
the Lamottee, and other churches, unset- 
tled; but we hope not of a serious charac- 
ter; there seems to be some misunderstan- 
ing, about the way Lamotte church, was 
treated last year when she presented her 
charges against the North Fork church; our 
Constitution places churches, in the same 
relation to each other, as individuals stand 
in churches; and when one church, be- 
comes grieved with another, they have to 
deal according to the 18th ch. of Mat.; the 
church grieved must go alone, if she gets 
satisfaction it stops, if not, she is to take one 
or more, and this for reconciliation. Now 
Lamotte church, being grieved with 
North Fork, went alone, and did not get 
satisfaction; she then took Glady Fork, 
and labored with her, and then she came 
to the association; but the association did 
not think it in proper order to betaken up 
by them, because the helps failed to report 
to the association; and learning through the 
North Fork church that they found them 
both wrong, the helps not being witness- 
es for Lamotte or North Fork either, 
we insert this, thatour brethren abroad may 
understand the reason why the association 
did not take up the case of the Lamotte 
church. We have had but a small corres- 
pondence this year, but we suppose it to 
be on account of sickness or something 
over which you have no control; but, 
brethren, we want to continue our corres- 
pondence with you; your Preachers and 
ours when they met all seem to be engaged 
in defending the doctrine of all sufficient 
grace. By reference to our minutes, you 
will see who of your members met with 
us; and also who of our brethren agreed to 
visit you. Our next association will be 
held with the Turman's Creek church, Sul- 
livan county, Ind, when and where we 
hope to hear from you again; till then dear 
brethren farewell in the best of bonds. 
Done and signed by order of the associa- 
tion. R. M. NEWPORT, Moderator. 
./. VaurKt. Clerk. 




Jjppointmenls for Elder P. Puckett. 

July 9th, at Tisun's m. h.; 1 1 th, at Tar 
boro'; I 2th, at Lav»reRce^; I Sth, at Drep 
Creek; I 4th, at Kehukee; 16 h, at Joiner's 
Chapel; 18th ant! I9h, at South Quay; 
21st, at Joiner's Chapel; 2.-ir<l, at Log Cha- 
pel; 24th, af Cfoss Roods; 25ih, at Cone- 
to; 2fiih. at Great Svfrarfip 



teojtTH Cauoi.ina. C.B.Hassell, Williamsfon 
R. ML G. Moore, Germantom. W. w. M.lzeU\Ply- 
month. Benji Bynum, Nahunta Depot, H. Vve- 
TTi^Averasboro' . Burwell Temple, Raleigh. Thofii 
Bag-ley, Smith field. James H. Sasser, Waynes- 
boro\ L. Gi Bennett, l/ea/hvtlle. Cor's Cana- 
day, Cruvensville William Welch, Abbott's 
Creeki A, Bi Bains. Ir. Stanhope. C. T. ■ Saw- 
yer,- Awf//'* Point. H. W ilkerson. West Point. J. 
Miller, MMm Park. Isaac Meekins and Samuel 
Rogers, Columbia, Wmi Mi Rushing, While's 
Stoie. James H. Smith, Wilmington, Jacob Her- 
ring, Goldsboro' , Si Tatum. Elizabeth City, Ad>- 
am Hooker, Salem Church, Abner Lamb, Cam- 
den C. Hi 

South (Carolina, Win. S. Shaw, Hock Mills 
W. B. Villard, Sr. Aiken. M. McGraw, Brown's. 
1. Li Simpson, Winnsboro' , i, Gi Bowers, Whip- 
py Swamp, Wmi Nelson, Camden, Gi Mat I 
thews, Germanville. J 0. Lucas, Lexington C, 11. 
Amos Hill, P/easaril View. i 

Georgia. John McKenney, Forsyth. Thomas 
Amis, Lexington. John. Mi t ield, Macon. John! 
VV. Turner, Pleasant Hill. Wlliam '1'rice and 
William D.Taylor, Tho'naslon. Ezra YtcOrary,' 
Warrenlon. Prior Lewis, Thoniasvilie, I, Las- 
setter, Vernon. Abner Durham, Greenville, Geo. 
l,eeve$,Milled<!;evi/le. W.J. Parker, Chenuba. J,P. 
Ellis, Pineal lie, P. Haggard .Alliens. A. Mi Thomp- 
son, Fort Valley, Daniel 6' See], Olive Grove. Jonn 
Wayne, Cain's, R. S, Hamrick, Carroll/on. D. 
SmilhfCgol Spring Moses H. Denman, Marietta 
Jethro Oates, Mulberry Grove, lsham Edwards, 
Marion. Joseph Daniel, Fish's. R. L. Hayne, 
Lebanon. T. w. Bearing, Cotton River. E. Davis, 
Gretn Hi Hi 

Alabama. A.Kealon, Belmont. H. Dance and 
W. Biazell, Eutaw. E.Bell, Liberty Hill. J. 
G.Walker, Milton. H • Williams, Ha-mna, J. 
Daii-'ret, Claiborne, E. Daniel, Church Hill, I. 
Carpenter, Sr. Clinton, .], McQueen, Lowndesboro'. 
Wm.Talley, Jfoun/ Moriah, B Upchurch, Bene- 
vola. S. Hamrick. Planl.ersville. James Si Mor- 
gan, Dayton. Rufus Daniel, Jameslon, Joel Hi 
Chambless, Loweville. F. Pickett, China Grove, 
John w. Pellum, Franklin. John Harrell, Mis, 
fouri. Wm. Thomas, Gainer's Store. E.M.A- 
mos, Midway Allen Moore, Intercourse, John 
Bryan, Sr. Fullirsvi/le, Benj. Lloyd, Wctumpha. 
N. N.Barmore, Mill Pert, A. Hatley, Pinllala. 
Vincent Williams, Mobile. Young Smith, Eufuu- 
la. T. J. Foster, Bell's Landing. Henry Cason, 
Monticello, Henry Petty, PiokemviWe. I). R. 
P. King, PainesviWe, John whitehead, Jr. Pl.a- 
sant A\ains. M. W. Helms, Jiridgeui/le. Elly 
Bi Turner, Abbcuilte. Thomas Towusend, Fork- 
land, Robert Grady, Bluff Port. R. R. Thomp- 

sou, Centreville, James F. Watson, Geneva. 

Tennessee Michael Bu rkhal ter, Jasper, Wm'.- 
room, Jackson. Solomon Ruin, Wesleu. Ira E.' 
Douthit, Lynchburg, Geo. Turner," Waverlu, 
Henry Randolph, Snodysville, Pleasant A.Witt 
Russtlville, William Me Bee, Old Town Creek, 
A. Burroughs, Moore 's XI Roads. James Snelton 
Portersvil/e- Shadraeh Mustain, Lewisburg, Na- 
than S. McDowell. Tazewell, Henry Turner, Fqu- 
ettevllie. Isaac Moore, Ripley, James Sa'llintr, 
Bull Run. " 

Mississippi. William Huddleston and Ed- 
mund Beeman, Thomaston. Simpson Parks and' 
Samuel Canterberry, Lexington. John Si Daniel 
Cotton Gin Port. Mark Prewett, AberdeerJ, 
Wm. Davis, Houston. C. Nichols, Stump Bridge. 
Woolen Hill, Cooksviltei John Davidson, r ur 
roliton. Thomas Mathews, Black Hawk. 
Lee, Beatie's Bluff. James T. S. Cockerham, 
Grub Springs, James Crawley, Minghoma. Jos. 
Edwards, New Albany. Thomas C. Hunt, J/c- 
Lead's. John Halbert, Nashville. Wilson Hunt - 
Stewart's, John Scallorn. Pleasant Mount, John' 
Kinnard, Daley's X Roads. K, B. Stalling, De- 

KiiOKiDA. Hart Well Watkins, Monticello, Lew- 
is Tufker. Camphettlon,. 

Louisiana. Thos Paxton, Greensboro' . JasV 
Peikins and Needham Coward, Big woods. L.- 
G. McGftugh'jy, B'allieu's Ferry. Benjamin Gar-" 
lington, N greet. 

Arkansas. John Hart, Saline. Georcre w 
Rogers, Arkadelphia, C. B. Landers, Union C.H,- 
J. VI. C. Robertson, Foster's. Jonn Honea, Ozark*' 
Missouri; John P. McDowell, New Market, 
Illinois. John Xlsbury, Lick Creek. 
Indianai wilson Connar, Columbia, 
Ohio. John B. Moses, Germa/iton, 
Kentucky. Wasbngton Watts, Co>-nelius- 
vilte. Levi Lancaster. Canton. Skelton Renfro, 
Cumberland Ford. Tandy James, Somerset, Isaac 
Horn, Rome. 

Virginia. Rudo!phRorer,.5crgwV Store. Wrr.i 
w. West, Whealley. William Burns, Davis' 
Mills, Jesse Lankford. Bowers's, A- Rorer. Edge. 
hill Thomas Klippen Laurel Grove. Thomas 
w Walton, Pleasant Gap. Levi Bishop, Si7tclair't 

Pennsylvania. Joseph Hughes, Gum Tree, 
New York. Gilbert Beebe, New Vernon. 


Jas. M. Kirk, $5 

Stephen Granade, 1 
Jas. Shelton, 4 

Wm. W. Hopkins, 1 

Wm. Fevvell, $3 
John H. Daniel, 1 
Samuel Sadler, 4 
Dudley Lawson, 3 

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_Ti> « n ... 

"©owe out of 2i?ct% mg ^toule." 

Vol. 11. 

SATURDAY, JULY 4, 1846, 

No. 7. 



The following Discourse was delivered 
at Republican, Chester district, South 
Carolina, Oct. \lth, 1845, on the 
subject of observing times, 8?c. 
The reason or cause was as follows: Be- 
ing fully persuaded in my own mind that 
the exercise and amalgamated ceremonies 
performed at this and other places" on the 
4th of July, 1845, were not in accordance 
with the letter and spirit of the gospel; 
and as the brethren went heartily and al- 
most unanimously into' it, (and I supposed 
without due reflection,) I thought I had- a 
right to converse with my Christian 
brethren, or ask their advice in any case 
whatever. So I told them simply that my 
mind was not composed with respect to the 
above celebration as it was called, or the 
propriety of participating therein. But 
having no mind to forcemy opinion pe- 
remptorily upon them as positive law, 
and not knowing but what they had some 
Better light upon it,' or ground of justifica- 
tion which' I knew not of; and though I 
knew children or madmen sometimes 
done things without reason, but not being 
willing to class my professed brethren 
with either of them, I ventured to ask 
them for the ground of their justification, 
professing at the same time the probabili- 
ty of its satisfying my mind, which I 
think they ought to have done. But from 
some cause or other, they appeared to con- 

strue it into an open and full accusation, 
and things are misrepresented till the com- 
munity are taught to look upon me as be-, 
ing arrogant enough to accuse the whole of 
them, as being guilty of the unpardonable 
sin. Therefore, by the request of the 
more sincere brethren, that I should give 
my views and sentiments more fully on 
the subject, knowing the propensity of 
some to misrepresent, and that for base 
purposes it is to he feared, we have con- 
cluded to commit it to writing, that it may 
be either copied, repeated, or examined, as 
need may require. So our friends who 
practice writing their sermons, will not 
we hope accuse us of doing it in mockery 
to them, but for propriety's sake. I ob- 
serve also, that if any are previously preju- 
diced against me because I have been at 
any time laid under the painful necessity, 
of reproving their graceless or ill-bred 
sons or daughters, or upon any parallel 
ground, we do not expect nor much hope 
to benefit them. But. we do hope with 
the help of the Lord to instruct, and in the 
end to comfort our honest well meaning 
brethren, and sisters, and friends. And 
these are the ends with the glory of God 
we shall aim at, knowing no man after the 
flesh. For if we are seeking to please 
men, we should not be the'servant of the 
Lord Jesus Christ. 

Text — "And turn ye not aside: for then' 
should ye go after vain things, which can- 
not profit nor. deliver; for they are vain.'- 5 
1st Samuel, 12th, 21st. 

In taking a view of the pretext of this 



passage, we discover the ancient people of 
the Lord though highly favored, yet they 
were given to backsliding, rebellion and in- 
gratitude; insomuch that the Lord said by 
a prophet, she was like a backsliding hei- 
fer. Hosea, 4th. 16th. Hear> heavens, 
and give ear, O earth: I have nourished 
and brought up children, and they have 
rebelled against me. tsa. 1st. 2nd. My 
people (saith the Lord,) are bent to back- 
sliding from me: though they (the proph- 
ets) called them to the Most High, none at 
all would exalt him. Hosea, 11th. 7th 
Therefore, being convicted by the word 
and spirit of God, at the mouth of the pro- 
phet Samuel, and making humble confes- 
sion and request, they received the 
following directive cautionary declaration: 
Turn ye not aside: for then should ye go 
after vain things, which cannot profit nor 
deliver; for they are vain. 

Then as these dangerous and vain things 
are not specified in the text, if we can find 
prevailing practices of the description giv- 
en, unprofitable and vain, they must be 
embraced in the text and condemned by it. 
The text then reads: And turn not aside: 
for then should ye go after vain things, 
which cannot profit nor deliver;, for they 
are vain. 

We will examine 1st, whether the ob- 
servance and celebration of the Fourth of 
July, according to the present popular 
plan, is either compulsory, scriptural, or 
profitable. If not, it is vain, and conse- 
quently sin, and forbidden by the word, 
and spirit, and practice of Christ and his 
apostles, and primitive followers; and pro- 
hibited to the followers of the meek, the 
lowly, self-denying Lamb of God. For 
he that saith he abideth in him, ought to 
walk even as he walked. 1st John, 2nd. 
6th. Let us then enquire with respect to 
the subject or practice, 1st, if it is not un- 
profitable, voluntary, and vain; 2nd, un- 
scriptural, unpreceptive; and 3rdly, sin. 

1st. Then when we shall ransack the 
whole summary of divine and human laws, 
13 acknowledged by Protestants in this 

highly favored land* we shall find that neU 
ther fhe word of God, nor the wisdom of 
our venerable legislative bodies, have en- 
joined any such thing; which is sufficient 
evidence that it is voluntary. And as there 
is no evidence of any benefit arising from 
it, neither to the State, the church, nor in- 
dividuals, it follows of course that it is un- 
profitable, voluntary, and vain; and evert 
on that giound condemned as sin. For 
the thoughts of foolishness is sin. Prov. 
24th. 9th. 

Then 2ndly, let us enquire whether it is 
condemned by the law of the Lord, the 
practice of Messiah, and his more pure and 
primitive followers, before the time of fall- 
ing away sp-oksn of by Paul, 2nd Thes. 
2nd. 3rd. (Now mark } They tell it is the- 
observation or celebration of the 4th of 
July, a time, &c. Then to the law and to 
the testimony let us bring it, and weigh it 
in the balance of the sanctuary, and it wilt 
be found wanting or faulty; for we will 
find it classed with the abominations of 
blood eating, enchantment, or wizardy. 
For thus salt h Jehovah, ye shall not eat 
any thing with the blood, neither shall ) e 
use enchantment nor observe times. Levit. 
19th. 26lh. Yet that same geneiation- 
joined themselves to Baal Peor, and eat 
the sacrifices of the dead. Numbers, 25th. 
3rd. Ps. 106th. 28th. And that noted 
Jewish sinner, who made the streets of Je- 
rusalem to run with innocent blood, and 
multiplied abominations too numerous to- 
be recorded, yet the Holy Spirit in the cat- 
alogue has placed as the second item irv 
connection wilh all his sins and grievous' 
abominations, he observed times. 2nd 
Kings, 21st. 6th; and 2nd Chron. 33rd.. 
6th Yea and made Judah and the inhab- 
itants of Jerusalem do worse than the hea- 
then whom the Lord destroyed before the 
children of Israel. 2nd Chron. 33rd. 9th. 

Then shall we wonder that Paul should^ 
be so astonished, and cry out with feeling, 
expostulation to those who had professed 
to receive the gospel, and ask them how it 
was thai they who professed to have turned 



from darkness to light, and from idols to 
God, that ihey should again embrace those 
Unprofitable, unscriptural, vain, delusive, 
flesh pleasing, heathenish* disobedient 
ways, to exclaim: Ye observe days, and 
months^ and times, and years. And with 
all the anxious emotions of a despairing fa- 
ther over a hopeless son: I am afraid of 
you, lest 1 have bestowed upon you labor 
in vain. Gal. 4th. 10th, lhh. And after 
exhorting them and calling their recollec- 
tion back to their first profession, then asks 
theril if he had become their enemy be- 
cause ha t«ld them the truth, verse 16th. 
And though the thing seemed strange to 
Paul* yet il is neither new nor uncommon; 
for the Jews sought to kill the Son of God, 
because he told the truth. And Paul, if 
rioW present under existing circumstances" 
would say, I stand in doubt of you; or ac- 
cording to the marginal translation, I am 
perplexed for you. Gal. 4th, 20th. 

Arid now, as the law or commands of 
God are general under the gospel* and he 
commands all men every where to repent, 
Acts, 17th. 30th; then inasmuch as not- 
Withstanding the light of the gospel and 

daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. 2nd 
Cor. 6th. 14th — 18th. For the Lord 
spake thus to me, and with a strong hand 
instructed me, saying, Say ye not a confe- 
deracy to all whom this people shall say a 
confederacy ; neither fear ye their fear, nor 
be afraid; but sanctify the Lord of hosts 
himself, and let him be your fear* and let 
him be your dread. Isa. 6th. 1 1 — 1 3th. 

Having then examined it by positive 
law, and found it to be not only unprofita- 
ble and vain, but an actual transgression 
against the law of God and a sin, we will 
2ndly, examine it by the precept of the 
gospel, and see whether it is in accordance 
with the mind off Christ or not, Now as 
the Lord hath promised that he would at a 
certain time set up a different* more glori- 
ous and everlasting kingdom, Daniel, 2nd; 
44th; which in its laws, its light* its pow- 
er, its glory, should smile the dark state of 
the benighted heathen world on its feet, or 
standing, which is darkness or ignorance* 
and cause that its idolatry, vain obser- 
vance, superstition, follies and ignorance, 
should become as chaff of the summer 
threshing floor; and the wind or the light 

the good seed in the world, there remain- and power of the gospel in word and prac- 

ed children of wrath or darkness, and tares fice s-hould drive them away, Dan. 2nd. 

among the wheat, Matth. 13th. 3Slh. 3.5th* when the branch out of the root of 

Eph. 2nd. 3rd. and 5lh, Sth. In conso- Jesse, with the spirit of the Lord in wis- 

quence of these things the Lord saith by dom, power, light, and the fear of the 

his- spirit through an inspired apostle: Be 

Lord, Isa. 11th. 2nd; who should smile 

ye not unequally yoked together with un- i the earth (or the darkness of Paganism) 
believers. For what fellowship hath righ- ! with the rod of his mouth, or his word* 
teousness with um ighteousness? or what j and with the breath of his lips, or purity 

of his precepts, sfay the wicked, or de- 
stroy or disperse all those vain, heathen- 
what part hath he that believeth with an in- j ish, idle, unprofitable rites, observances 
fidel? and what agreement hath the temple a : nd practices. Isa. 1 1th. 4ih. 
of God with idols? For ye (believers) Now let us see what the gospel precept 
are the templeof the livingGod. As God w. Christ saith positively, my kingdom 

communion hath light with darkness? or 
what concord hath Christ and Belial? or 

hath said, 1 will dwell in them, and walk 
in them; and I will be their God, and they 
shall be my people; wherefore come out 

is not of this world. John, J8tb, 36lh. 
That is, not according to the then existing 
superstitious state of the Jews; nor the dark 

from among them and be ye separate, saith ! and ignorant, nor idolatrous state of the 

the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing, 
and I will receive you, and 1 will be a fa- 
ther unto you, and ye shall be my sons and 

Gentile world. And his followers were 
not of the world, therefore the world hated 
both him and them. John, 15th. 18ih, 19th. 



Now the gospel precept says: Be not con- 
formed to this world, but be ye transform- 
ed by the renewing of your mind, that ye 
may prove (or bear testimony) what the 
will of ihe Lord is; or that good and ac- 
ceptable and perfect will of God. Romans, 
12th, 2nd. This I say therefore, and testi- 
fy in the Lord, I hat ye henceforth walk 
not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity 
of their mind: having Ihe understanding 
darkened, being alienated from the life of 
God through the ignorance that is in them, 
because of the blindness or hardness of 
their heart: who, being past feeling have 
given themselves over to lasc-ivioasness, to 
work all uncleanness with greediness. But 
ye have not so learned Christ, (or-of 
Christ,) if so be that ye have heard him, 
and been taught by him as the truth is in 
Jesus: that ye put off the old man, (or for- 
mer natural slate,) which is corrupt, (or 
unrenewed,) according to the deceitful 
lusts; and be renewed in (he spirit of your 
mind: and that ye put on the new man, 
which after God is created in righteous- 
ness and true holiness. Eph. 4lh. 17th — 

Again, with respect to the course and 
vain practices of the unbelieving world he 
saith: Be ye not therefore partakers with 
them. For ye were sometime darkness, but 
now are ye light in the Lord: walk as 
children of light; (for the fruit of the Spi- 
rit is in all goodness, and righteousness, and 
truth;) proving what is acceptable unto the 
Lord. And have no fellowship with the 
unfruitful works of darkness, but rather 
reprove them. For it is a shame even to 
speak of those things which are done of 
them in secret. But all things that are re- 
proved, aj?e made manifest by the light: 
for whatsoever doth make manifest is 
light. Wherefore he saith, awake, thou 
that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and 
Christ shall give thee light. See then that 
ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as 
wise, redeeming the time, because the 
days are evil. Wherefore be ye not un- 
wise, but understanding what the will of 

the Lord is. And be not drunk with wine,; 
wherein is excess; but be filled with the' 
Spirit; speaking to yourselves in psalms, 
and hymns, and spiritual songs, singing 
and making melody in your heart to the' 
Lord; giving thanks always for all things 
unto God and the Father, in the name of 
our Lord Jesus Christ; submitting your- 
selves one to another in the fear of God. 
Eph. 5th. 7th — 2 1st. 

Finally, my brethren, be strong in the 
Lord, and in the power of his might. Put 
on the whole armor of God, that ye may 
be able to stand against the wiles of the de- 
vil. For we wrestle not against flesh and 
blood, but against principalities, against 
powers, against the rulers of the darkness 
of this world, against spiritual wickedness 
in high places. Wherefore take unto you 
the whole armor of God, thit ye may be 
able to withstand in the evil day, and hav- 
ing done all, to stand. Stand therefore, 
having your loins girt about with truth* 
and having on the breastplate of righte- 
ousness; and your feet shod with the pre^ 
paration of the gospel of peace; above all* 
taking the shield ol faith, wherewith ye 
shall be able to quench all the fiery darts 
of the wicked. And take the helmet of 
salvation, and the sword ofthe Spirit, which 
is the word of God: praying always with 
all prayer and supplication in the Spirit,- 
and watching thereunto with all perseve- 
rance. Eph 6th. 10th — ISth. 

And walk worthy of God, into whose' 
kingdom ye are called. 1st Thes. 2nd. 
1 2th . And not walk as the Gentiles,' 
which know not God. 1st Thes. 4lh. 5th. 
Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath 1 
made us meet to be partakers ofthe inher- 
itance of the saints in light, and delivered' 
us from the power of darkness, and transla- 
ted us into the kingdom of his dear Son.- 
Col. 1st. 12th, 13th. Then being transla- 
ted or brought into the light of the gospel, 
and forbid to walk as children of darkness, 
we cannot be partakers with them. Eph. 
7th. 5th. The things which the Gentiles 
sacrifice they sacrifice to devils, not to" 



God: and I would not that ye should have 
fellowship with devils. Ye cannot drink 
the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: 
ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, 
and of the table of devils. 1st Cor. 10th. 
20th, 21st. 

Now having thus far searched the gospel 
precepts and finding that the observance or 
celebration of days are not embraced in, 
but contrary to the precept of the gospel; 
of course, worldly, traditional, unprofitable 
and vain; and as such, sin. And by the 
by, we intend to try to show that it is of 
pagan origin, and unfit to be practised by 
Christians. But for (he present we must 
proceed to the third proposition, to show 
that it is contrary to the example of Christ. 
It being only gratifying to carnality, the 
fleshly or sensual passions, and vain. 

Now it is written of the Lord Jesus that 
he was hoi}', harmless, undefiled, and sep- 
arate from sinners; and in his example 
self-denying. Heb. 7th. 26th. He laid 
aside his glory to rescue our fallen race. 
John, 17th. 5th. Though he was rich, 
yet for our sakes he became poo/, that we 
through his poverty might be made rich. 
2 Cor. Sth. 9th. And laid aside his gar- 
ments to wash his followers 3 feet. John, 

J3lh. 4th. Yea, his whole life while as a 

man he sojourned here on earth, was a life 
of humility, love, benevolence, and self- 
denial. John, 13th. 1st. Phil. 2nd. 8th. 

Now it is expressly written, he that saith 

he abideth in him ought himself to walk j ing of the word, or term 

even as he walked. 1st John, 2nd. 6th. 

Then we would not be found in ball rooms, 

at card or billiard tables, chess boards, 

horse paths, grog shops, vain shows, 

worldly traditions, nor celebrating days, 

por observing times after the manner of 

the heathen. Not seeking petty offices, 

worldly honors, neither courting the 

smiles por fearing the frowns of any. Hid 

in himself when the people would have 

made him a king. John, 6th. 15th. And 

bidding defiance to Herod, when he threat- 
ened to kill him. Luke, 13th. 22nd. The 

game in substance will be found in the ex- 

ample of Paul and others, wh^ counted the 
things that were gain to them, loss for the 
cross of Christ. Phil. 3rd. 7th. And took 
joyfully the spoiling of their goods, know- 
ing they had in heaven a better and an en- 
during substance. Heb. 10th. 34th. Hence 
as the wisdom of God has not enjoined it, 
and those worthies have not exemplified 
it, of course it is unprofitable and vain, con- 
sequently sin. 

Fourth proposition. We promised to 
try to show that the origin of observing 
times, were of heathenism. We cannot 
now tell exactly the commencement, but 
if we lock back to the 19th chapter, 26lh 
verse of Leviticus, 1490 years before 
Christ, we will be convinced that it exist- 
ed before that time to that extent the all- 
wise Jehovah saw fit to prohibit to his peo- 
ple: Ye shall not observe times, &c. But 
that same rebellious generation joined 
themselves to Baal Peor, and eat the sacri- 
fices" of the dead. Numbers, 25th. 3rd. Ps. 
106th. 2Sth. Now 1 would ask any man 
of common good sense what is the mean- 
ing of eating the sacrifices of the dead, if it 
is not eating those feasts made in memo- 
ry of ancient worthies, as they are called? 
And I would ask, who Baal Peor was if he 
was not one of the ancient of, and perhaps 
the founder of the kingdom of Moab, and 
his name Peor? But being deified, as the 
custom was, he was called my Lord Peor, 
or my Idol Peor, which is the true mean- 

And that wick- 
ed man Manasseh, who made Judah and 
the inhabitants of Jerusalem to do worse 
than the heathen that were round about 
them, 698 years before Christ, observed 
time*, &c. 2nd Kings, 21st. 6th. Now I 
am not prepared to say, whether the feast 
of the great Ahasuerus was his birth day, 
or his coronation dav; but he was a pagan, 
and it was the observation of a time, and 
terminated in the divorce of his fair queen, 
519 years before Christ. Esther, 1st. 3rd. 
Ten years after this the paganised Jews 
took upon themselves the observation of a 
time, to wit, the days of Purim, or feast g\ 



Esther. 9th. 26 — 31st, 33nd. Again: 
Herod, a paganised Jew, observed or kept 
his birthday; which proved as fatal to the 
forerunner of Christ, as the observance of 
days have proved to thousands of his fol- 
lowers, and the profession of Christianity 
since. Matth. 14th. Gth, &c. 

Again: On the pages of history we shall 
find many hundreds of deities and wor- 
thies, (some tell us more than thirty thou- 
sand.) acknowledged by the pagan idola- 
lors and nominal professors, whose days 

we are walking in the precepts of the law 
blameless; or if not rather according to the 
course of this world, and the prince of the 
power of the air, the spirit that } et rules in 
the children of disobedience. Eph. 2nd. 
2nd. Are we shewing our love to the 
Lord Jesus by keeping his commandments? 
John, 14th loth. Why shall we be will- 
ingly and practically so inconsistent as to 
ery Lord, Lord, and not do the things 
which he says? Matth. 7ih. 21st. Yea, 
have we discovered not only the holiness, 

have been kept, their times observed, and justice and goodness of his law, purity of 

they themselves idolized bj' the poor, be- 
nighted world of mankind. And Mr. 
Jones somewhere in his church history in- 

his precepts, the grace of the gospel, and 
that glorious blessed light of his example; 
while the practice of the many ten thou- 

forms us, that those idol pagan sacrifices sand who have gone to receive their re- 
and observances was one of the means i ward, did while here on earth, like the in- 
whereby the pagan persecutors discovered | numerable orbs of fire in their attendance 
man)' of the followers of Christ; who on the silver queen of night, scatter the 

chose to suffer death, rather than partake in 
the observance of times, or idol sacrifices. 
Hence we think it is evident, that the ori- 
gin of the practice of observing or celebra- 
ting times, is paganish, traditional, volun- 

dnrkness of heathenism and superstition 
from the moral atmosphere of this our fall- 
en world. And shall we be the active, 
willing instruments to draw back again 
the dark curtain of ignorance and vain ob- 

tary and vain, and a sin in the sight of a ' servalions, till the spirit, the glory, the 

pure and holy God, who has said, Ye shall 
not observe times. 
Then, dear brethren and Christian friends, 

grace, and the light of the gospel shall he 
withdrawn, and sink our world in one 
eiernal night. Yet notwithstanding while 

having examined the subject briefly accor- j these things are going on in this our day, 
ding to the law of the land in which we like fields, and woods, and hills and dales, 
live, the reason with which the Lord has being all on fire darkening the atmosphere 
blessed us, or endued us, the law he gave with clouds of smoke, proclaims to the be- 
ns, the gospel precept, the example of holder afar, ruin, ruin. And as these 
Christ and his immediate followers, the flames are urged on by the genile air, or 
history of the world, its fatal cons quen- made more terrific by the passing wind, 
ces — and proved it to he voluntary, trad i- so by the soft tongue, and lively and 
tional, unprofitable and vain — God-dishon- hearty example of Christian ministers, (so 
oring, fatal in its consequences nod a sin, called,) all is consumed, destroyed And 
let us make some application by way of>0! my God, where are the watchmen, or 


*v ho shall answer for, or bear the blood of 

Let us in the fear and love of God, bring these men 

our practice to the light of God's s pi i it. as 
exhibited in his word; for the word which 
he has spoken, for the same shall judge us 
in the last day, saith the Lord the Saviour. 
John, 12th, 4Slh. Then let us ask our- 
selves, as in the presence of the all-seeing, 
heart-searching rein-trying God, whether 

Hut again: Have we considered how 
rmich we are sinning against Christ the 
Lord in his members, even while we in- 
dulge in things indifferent, to the wound- 
ing of their conscience. Now some of us 
understand by the scriptures that God 
chose, and Clmst purchased or redeemed 



his church, that they should he a separate, 
peculiar people, and zealous of good works. 
Titus, 2nd. 14lh. That they should not do 
as the Gentiles, which know not God. 
They have also learned that what is not of 
faith is sin, that sin dishonors Christ their 
head, so they are wounded and grieved; 
and Christ says, this is done to him. And 
there is as it were grief in heaven and on 
earth, that God is not glorified. 

Now a different spirit pervaded the 
breast of Paul, who counted all things loss 
for the cross of Christ, the glory of God, 
and the good of the church; suffering all 
things for the eleci's sake. 2 Tim. 2nd. 
10th. Declaring if meat made his brother 
to offend, he would eat none while the 
world stood. 1st Cor. 8th. 13ih, Again: 
when ye sin so against the weak brethren, 
and wound their conscience, ye sin against 
Christ. 1st Cor. Sih. 12th. Then 0! my 
brethren, where, 0! where is that love we 
felt in our souls when we first believed and 
rejoiced with joy unspeakable tnd full of 
glory, and rejoiced in hope of the glory of 

them, devils. 2nd Kings, 1 7ih. 33rd, and 
connection, or the worship of the golden 
calf. Ex. 32nd. 6th. When they sat down 
to eat and drink, and rose up to play. Or 
perhaps the greatest resemblance will be 
found to exist in those sacrifices which the 
Pagan world have continued to offer to, or 
in memory of their worthies, or titular dei- 
ties with which history abounds, and is 
beyond doubt the true origin of the present 
practice; and Paul calls it, sacrificing to 
devils. The names of three only we shall 
give at this time, with some features of 
their worship. 1st. Mars, the god of war; 
and worshiped by tactical parades. 2nd. 
Apollo, the god of profane music; and 
worshiped by bands and concerts. 3rd. 
Vacuna, the god of idle persons, and wor- 
shiped by wandering idly to and fro. (See 
list of heathen deities and worship.) Now 
let us suppose for a moment that one of 
the ancients, say Paul for instance, who 
was acquainted with the heathen and Jew- 
ish worship, in his journey had accidentally 
arrived at Republican, or Ebenezer, on the 

God? 0! my inconstant love and fickle fourth of July last, (1S45;) both places 

wandering mind, shall I, 0! shall I trample 
on eternal love, call back the gloomy 
night of Gethsemane, wake up the knotty 
scourge, and wet the pavement with his 
blood; bring forth the cross, the nail, the 
spear: and while he is crucified afresh, sur- 
round, and gaze, and mock, and hide the 
6miles of heaven from men. 

Once more, let us with respect to the 
exercise, apart from the term observe, cel- 
ebrate, time, &c. examine it by analogy. 
Now as we were not eye witness of the 
scene, we must trace it by enquiry. And 
as the precept and example of Christ, the 
apostle Paul, and primitive Christians 
bears no affinity to it, and the Jews would 
scorn to own it as belonging to them, 
therefore it did not come from heaven; 
consequently, the opposite region. And 
in its features more like the worship of the 
heathen at Samaria, when they feared the 
Lord and served by sacrifice eight heathen 
deities of their own make, or as Paul calls 


(professedly) set apart for the worship of 
that God who says he will be worshiped 
in spirit and in truth. Now from the ap- 
pearance he would have said, they are go- 
ing to have a sacrifice here to-day; and be- 
ing a stranger in these parts, yet knowing 
that it differed materially in all its visibili- 
ty from the Jewish worship, and that there 
was no su£h thing connected with the 
Christian worship; I can fancy the strength 
of that deep fetched sigh, and heart-rending 
groan, while pain would have thrilled 
through his trembling frame, 1 am 
again in a heathen land. While thus 
absorbed in thought, and swallowed up in 
pain, and grief, and wonder, the time ar- 
rives for ceremonies; and he, anxious to 
disco verthe objects, for acts of devotion are 
now performed, but in a language un- 
known to Paul. When the loud roaring 
of that devouring, desolating engine of 
death and mourning proclaims with voice 
ike thunder; — 



Midst trembling; earth and parting air, 
Proclaims 'lis Mars, the god of war; 
Apollo then in strains most sweet, 
His sacrifice we now will eat; 
While a numerous host behind, before, 
And some above and some below, 
Their homage to Vacuna show. • 

Now just suppose we all had had labels 

•sail h the Lord, if thou return, then will I 
bring thee again, and thou shalt stand be- 
fore me: and if thou take forth {he pre- 
cious from the vile, thou shalt be as my 
mouth: let ihem return unto thee; but re- 
turn not thou unto them. And 1 will 
make thee unto this people a fenced brazen 

on our hats in Greek, and Paul had read! wall: and they shall fight against thee, but 
on one, a Christian; on another, a Chris- they shall not prevail against thee: fori 

tian minister; on a third, a Baptist; it ap- 
pears to me he would in agonj of soul have 

exclaimed, Good God! and retired, and 


mournfully have said, this people- have 
certainly received, and read, and preached 
the word in vain. Gal. 4th. 1 Oth, 1 1 ih. in 

am with thee to save thee and to deliver 
thee, saith the Lord. And I will deliver 
thee out of the hand of the wicked, and I 
will redeem thee out of the hand of the ter- 
rible, Jer. 15th. lsth — 21st. 

Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and, 

vain do they worship, teaching for doc-! deliver every man his soul; be not a cut 
jlrines (even less) than the commandments 9,^1" ne >* iniquities, for this is the time of 
of men. Matth. 15th. 9th. Now suppose! (,)e Lord's vengeance. Jer. 51 st. 6ih. We 
(as might have been verified on the day) would have healed Babylon, but she is no| 
that he next finds one in solitude deeply | healed. Forsake her and let us go every 
mourning and in tears, Jeremiah like, be ; one into I! ' s own country. For her judg- 
wailing the state of his people; what ad- 1 ments reaqhelh unto the heaven, and is lift- 
yice, think ye, he would have given? j «'' "P evt ' n to 'he skies, verse fith. And, 
From such withdraw thyself 1st Tim. 6ih. t ! near(1 another voice saying, COME 
5th. And now we command you, brelh-l 0UT 0F HEK - MY PEOPLE, that ye 
ren, in the name of our Lord Je-us Christ, ; be not partakers of her sins, and ihat ye re- 
tha't ye withdraw yourselves from every ; ceive not of her P ,a S' ,es - For her sins have 
brother that walketh disorderly, and not reached unto heaven, and God haih re- 
after the tradition which ye received of us j membered her iniquities. Rev. 18th. 4th, 
J2nd Thes. 3rd 6th. H*ve no fellowship j 5lh - M y bowels, my bowels! I am pain- 
with the unfruitful works of darkness, but I ec! at m y ^ er - v hea r 1 '- m J heart maketh a, 

gather reprove them. Eph 5'h. H. And 
he must have thought, ihe people worse 
than the Athenians- for there was no in- 
scription on llieir allar, to the unknown 
God. Acts, 17th 2.3rd. And when nu'm 

bers were hardened and believed not, but 

* > i .• 

Spake evil of the gospel way before the 
multitude, he departed Irom among them 
and separated the disciples. Acs, : 9th. 
pth, &c. 

And what would the Lord have said to 
this weeping, mourning, disconsolate one, 
who in the midst of his grief and agony o 

noise in me; I cannot hold my peace, be- 
cause thou hast heard, my soul, the. 
sound of the trumpet, the alarm of war. 
Destruction upon doairuction is cried; for. 
the whole land is spoiled; suddenly are 
my lenls spoiled, and my curtains in a mo- 
ment. Jer. 4th. 19th. 20th. Oh, that my 
head were waiers, and mine eyes a foun- 
tain ol (ears, that 1 might, weep day and 
night Jar the shiin of the daughter of my 
people! Oh that i had in the wilderness a, 
lodging place of way- faring men; that I 
might leave my people, and go Irom them? 

„~.,i «k>» ». n i.,J^ i . i . ■!_/-■• j for they be all adulterers, an assembly of 

soul thus ventures to expostulate with God- ■? '••,.-' 

Why is my pain perpetual, and rny wound ' treacher0 " S men> An(l the ? bend their 
incurable, which refuse* to be |, eale(l? | 'ongues I, ke they bend their bow for lie 

wilt thou be altogether unto me as a liar. 
and as waters that fail? Therefore thus 

but they are not valiant for the truth upon 
earth; for they proceed from evil to eviJ, 



and they know not me, ssfith the Lord- 
Jer. 1st— 3rd. 

And now, as things are ag they are, and 
we in sqch a world as this, and in a time 
when iniquity abounds, the love? of many 
waging cold, Matth. 24th. 12th; and slee- 
ping timorous dpgs afraid to bark, and 
greedy ones that can never have enough, 
Isa. 56th 10th, 1 I th; truth and righteous 
pess falling to the grqund, equity shut out 
and the tiue Zion of our God" mourning, 
and the powers of darkness triumphing; 
yanity, hardness, and unbelief, as an im- 
petuous rolling flood, threatening to in- 
yolve the; world in everlasting night, and 
consequential ruin. Where, oh! where 
?hall we $ e 6i and to whom shall we go, 
and who shall we obey, but to lhat God 
who has given u§ the word of his grace, 
Acts, 2 p 1 h . 23nd, his direction, and his 
promises? And though for a season we 
are in heaviness through manifold tempta- 
tions, yet we must endure like good sol 
fliers; fqr in due time we shall reap, if we 
fajnt not. 1 Pet. 1st. 5th; and 2nd Tim. 
2nd. 3rd. 

And though carnal worldly professors 
are become wanton, and nourishing their 
hearts as on a feast day, and condemn and 
virtually kill the just without resistance; 
therefore we must wait till the Lord comes, 
for his coming draweth nigh. Behold the 
Judge standeth before the door. James, 
5th. 5th; and he will punish the world for 
their evil, and the wicked for iheir iniqui- 
ty; and 1 will cause the arroga,npe of the 
proud to cease, and lay low the haughti 
pess of the terrible. Isa. 13th. Ilth Wo 
to the. multitude of many people, which 
make a noise like (he noise of theseas; and 
f.q the rushing of nations, that make a rush- 
ing Ijke the rushing of mighty or many 
waters; the nations shall rush like the rush- 
jng of mighty waters, but God shall rebuke 
them and they shall flee lar off, and be cha- 
sed as the chaff of the mountains before the 
Wind, Isa. 17th. |2th, 13ih. Therefore 
hear, oh ! ye nations, and oh ! congregation, 
what is among you. Hear, oh! earth; be- 

hold I will bring evil upon this people, 
even the fruit of their thoughts, because 
they have not hearkened to my words nor 
to my law, but rejected it. Jer. 6th. 18th. 

Now hear the Lord's prophet once more 
and we are through with this part of the 
subject. He says in the close of his ad- 
dress on thg subject of our text: I will 
teaeb you the good and the right way; on- 
ly fear the Lord and serve him in truth 
with all your heart. For consider how 
great things he hath done for you: but if 
ye shall still do wickedly, ye shall be con- 
sumed, &c. 1st Saml. 12th. 24ih, 25:h. 

Now upon reviewing the subject we per- 
ceive there is much room for enlargement 
or improvement, but nothing to retrench. 
We shall proceed to the improvement or 
use of the subject. We then in the first 
place discover according to what the Lord 
has been pleased Iq reveal of him s elf to us, 
the possession or existence and exercise of 
seven powers, (called by the learned di- 
vines, attributes;) united and harmonising 
in himself, displayed to his glory, and for 
the good of his people. Those seven are 
thus expressed: wisdom, power, holiness, 
justice, goodness, mercy, and truth ; justice 
and judgment supporting his ihrone. Now 
il is abundantly evident, that afier the fall 
and redemption of man, that theie remain- 
ed in man while in the flesh notions of or 
inclinations to sin, and to follow vain 
things. And as his judgment, was weak 
and hi.s knowledge imperfect, it pleased 
the-all-wise and merciful God to give him 
a law, directive and prohibitory; and one 
said this law was a lamp to his feet, and a 
light to his pal h, &e; and another testifies 
that il was holy, just and good: and it said 
of the Lord Messiah the Saviour, he mas- 
nified it and proved it honorable. 

Now this law not only directs by its pre- 
cepts, but by the authority of its author 
says, thou shah not, &c. ; and by its pre- 
cepts, points out necessary consequences 
arising from a departure from it and its au- 
thor, as in the text, following after yaiu 



things, &c. Hence if we can bring our 
conduct to the light of God's word, under 
the softening rays of God's gracious spirit, 
we must of necessity discover that we have 
sinned and come short of the glory of God. 
Then being guilty we should not add stub- 
bornness to our disobedience, knowing he 
will judge us not only for our outward 
acts, but also for our inward and most se- 
cret thoughts. 

Then while it is written, he that cover- 
eth his sins shall not prosper, but he that 
confesseth and forsaketh them shall find 
mercy, Prov. 28th. 13th; Ps. 32nd. 5th; 
1st John, 1st, 9th, 10th; and though we 
might have done it ignorantly, as the apos- 
tle said to the Jews; we can only use the 
same precept and say, repent, that your 
sins may be blotted out when the limes of 
refreshing shall come from the presence of 
the Lord. Let us take with us words and 
turn to (he Lord and say, take away our 
sins and receive us graciously. Let us 
seek the guidance and enlightening influ- 
ence of that spirit which would enable us 
to behold and learn marvellous things out 
of the law of the Lord, that we might 
cease to do evil and learn to do well, seek 
judgment, relieve the oppressed, and plead 
for the widow. 

Come now let us reason together, saith 
the Lord; though your sins be as scarlet 
they shall be as snow, and though they be 
as crimson they shall be as wool. If ye be 
willing and oBedient, ye shall eat the good 
oftheland; but if ye refuse and rebel, ye 
shall be destroyed; for the mouth of the 
Lord hath spoken it. Let us remember 
that a small sin unrepented of, will damn 
the soul. What is the eating of an apple, 
and what is observing times but disobey- 
ing God's command? Then again let us 
hear the offered mercy and consolation of 
penitent Israel. And Samuel said to the 
people, fear not; ye have done all this 
wickedness, yet turn not aside from fol- 
lowing the Lord, but serve the Lord with 
all your heart. For the certain consequen- 
ces of turning aside was, they would of 

course go after vain things, &c. It is also 
evident from the examination of the sub- 
ject, that we sin not only against the posi- 
tive law of God, but against his precepts,, 
his examples, his people, his bones, ami 
his flesh. And woe to him that thus of- 
fends one of these little ones belonging to. 
Christ; it were better for him that a mill- 
stone were hanged about his neck and he 
were cast into the depth of the sea. Matth. 
18th. 6lh. 

Then, dear brethren and friends, let us 
call upon you for the s;ike of the character 
of that God that has created, and blesses, 
you with numberless blessings, that you 
endeavor to honor and obey him in (he 
light of that law which leads none astray. 
And 0! ye professed followers of the 
Lamb deceive not yourselves to suppose 
you may call him Lord, Lord, and trample 
on his holy lawi Let us be cautious that 
we do not kiss and stab at the same time; 
or cry master, master, and deliver him to 
his enemies to mock, and scourge, and cru- 
cify. But with all our numerous sins and 
multiplied transgressions, with all our 
blindness, darkness, hardness of heart, in- 
constancy, fickle-mindedness, feebleness, 
dullness, errors and unprofitableness, our 
miseries, our wants, our woes, impeniten- 
cy, and obduracy of heart, let us come near 
and bow down at the foot of the cross of 
the suffering Son of God, and ask, why 
thus scourged and torn? why bathed in 
blood? why washed with tears? why nail- 
ed to the wood? why agonise in death, 
thou lovely one, thou tender, spotless Lamb 
of God? And shall we be told, it was to 
redeem and save his people from the bond, 
the curse, the love of sin? that they should 
be separate, peculiar, and zealous of good 
works; shewing the light, the power, the 
grace, and the glorious excellency of the 
cross of Christ; being thereby crucified to 
the world, and the world with all its vani- 
ties crucified to us. 

Then should we in deed and in truth be- 
come the visible followers of the Lamb, 
which is impossible, while the world, its 



love, its honors, its pleasure's, its profits, 
its friends, its smiles and vanities, obtain 
our minds, employ our time, delight our 
hearts, and sink our love to the Lord Jesus 
Christ; who says, love not the world nor 
the things that are in tr i world. 1st John, 
9nd. 15th, &c. And such undoubtedly was 
the light, the love, the ways of those in ear- 
lv days who counted all things loss in the 
world, and of the world dross and dung 
for Christ; who took joyfully the spoiling 
of their goods, knowing they had in hea 
ven a better and enduring substance; who 
forsook all to follow him, professing him 
to be the chief among ten thousand and al- 
together lovely. Being filled with his 
love, renewed by his grace, redeemed by 
his blood, justified by the power of his 
resurrection, raised by his quickening spi- 
rit, they soared above this little perishing 
world; they defied their enemies, feared 
not death, and triumphed over the devil; 
for their God had promised to bruise him 
under their feet ere long. Romans, 16th. 

But alas! alas! these golden days are 
gone, are gone — are they forever gone? 
We have the name of Christians, but oto! 
thou heavenly, triumphant, nbsent power, 
art thou forever gone? 0! hast thou said, 
I will go and return to my place, till they 
acknowledge their offence and seek my 
face. Hosea, 5th. 15th. AndO! my God, 
what a miserable set ©f substitutes have we 
found, and medicines which make the dis 
ease worse, daily worse; and like death 
with doleful groans speaks dissolution near. 
Yea they are not the root, the leaf, nor 
fruit of the plant of renown. Eze. 34th. 
29th; but the most poisonous products or 
minerals dug from the bowels of this dis- 
solving tottering earth, and only that 
which would equally delight a heathen, is 
in repute with us. The riches, the amuse- 
ments, the fashions, the praise, the pride, 
the vanities of this poor perishing world, 
supply us with full delight in the absence 
of that power in whom those soldiers of the 
cross did triumph. And the wisdom of 

this world, the improvements and inven- 
tions of men have made holiday for the spi- 
rit of God. And instead of receiving the 
Lord Jesus Christ, who of God is made 
unto us wisdom, righteousness, sanctifica- 
lion and redemption, 1st Cor. 1st. 30lh; 
and have not only made him to serve with 
their sins, and wearied him with their ini- 
quities; Isaiah, 23rd, 44th; making him to 
them such as they would have him to be, 
and thus our creature instead of our crea- 
tor and lawgiver. Jer. lGth. 20ih. For 
being able to make a preacher when we 
please, we can make him preach what we 
please; and when the law of God don't 
please us in our carnality, we make it over 
again to suit our carnal mind, and justify 
ourselves by professing to believe it is 
right. And as we have at first worked 
ourselves into his favor, if we take liberty 
to sin a little, and he should frown upon 
us, when we have eaten the sweet morsel 
then we will go back and work for him 
again till he gels in a good humor and for- 
gives us; for it is natural for man to con- 
clude, what 1 have done once I can do 

Thus, brethren and friends, the law of 
God becomes of no effect, but is cast behind 
our back; and though he should say, don't 
touch the fruit of that fair looking tree 
yonder, we say 1 don't see any harm in 
eating an apple. And though he should 
say, thou shalt not commit adultery or be 
a fornicator; yet we say to ourselves, i 
don'l see any great harm in embracing my 
female servant, she is my money and 1 
have a right to do what 1 will with my 
own. He says, ye shall not be like the 
heathen; but we must imitate the world. 
He says, ye shall not observe times; but 
we say, we ought to celebrate the Fourth 
of July. He says, obey my voice; but we 
say, we are free men. He makes a prea- 
cher and we polish him; he raises up a 
praying man, and we furnish him with a 
book to learn him to pray; he gives us his 
precepts, and we alter them; he says that 
man shall be mine, and we say yoy must 



take that one too; he says his kingdom is take you, one of a household and two of 

not of this world, but we make it just like 
it; he says, his kingdom must be of living 
materials, but we drag the dead in; he says 
forsake all and follow me, but we say we 
have a wife, and friends, and oxen, and 
merchandise, and. we cannot come; he says 
abstain from the appearance of evil, and 
we say to ourselves this is not the unpar 
donable sin; he says be not conformed to 
this world, but we strive to keep time 
with it; he says walk worthy of your high 
vocation, and we say 1 wish he was not so 
hard to please. He loves holiness,, and we 
to gratify the flesh; he looks for truth in 
the inward parts, but the hypocrite's robe 
will do us; he says he will be worshipped 
in spiiit and truth, the form does us; he 
requires the whole heart, and we give the 
world the big half. 

Thus, fellow passengers through the 
deep enchanted vale of this delusive world 
to the grave and to eternity, we now make 
pur lest appeal to you. Who are we? 
where are we goinn? to whom are we ac- 
countable? who shall decide our fate? who 
is the judge? My soul, oh! who? Can it 
be hi in? who? Can it be him who gave his 
law, who came under it, who magnified 
and made it honorable?^ who made the way 
of life sure, the path of duly plain, the 
ways, of obedience delightful, and his foot- 
steps glorious, and can yet show mercy to 
the contrite and humble one; can be just 
and in equity justify all that beiieve. Jus 
tice and judgment unite, grace and righ- 
teousness, and grace and peace to embrace 
each other. And though sin had almost 
closed the heaven of mercy, and clouded 
the glittering skies of grace, and shut the 
world in heathenish night, and plunged 
mankind in hopeless despair; yet the day 
spring from on high hath visited us, and 
life and immortality is brought to light 
through the gospel. And God our crea- 
tor, preserver, redeemer, declares his grace, 
makes known his goodness, shows his 
tnercy, declares his love. Turn, 0! back- 
sliding children, saith the Lord, and I will 

family, and bring you to Zion, &c. Jer. 
3rd. 14th. Declaring the blood of Christ 
clean«eth from, all sin. 1st John, 1st. 7th. 

Then if we take the word of God we 
shall not only become acquainted with the. 
character of God, the wisdom and purity 
of law and what is sin, which we never 
could learn on the broadest stretch of de- 
praved human reason, much more would it 
be impossible to learn what is sin from the. 
thoughts of a heart already prone to evil, 
and that continually, nor from the vain 
propensities and lusts of carnal appetite;, 
which too often is set as judge, and to de-. 
cide in such cases. And if it gratifies van- 
ity, it enlists our verdict, and we say mod- 
estly we don't see any harm in it, (as in. 
the case under consideration.) But turn- 
ing from this treacherous tribunal to the. 
word of God, we find not only what is sin, 
but that we are sinners ofalmost Manasseh 
dye; but yet with him there is a beam of 
mercy, a ray of hope, and grace triumph- 
ant calls to return. Let the wicked for- 
sake his way, and the unrighteous man his. 
thoughts, and letjiim turn to the Lord who 
will have mercy upon him, and to our God, 
who will abundantly pardon. Isa. 55th. 
7th. Hut if ye shall still do wickedly, ye 
shall be consumed, &c. 1st Samuel, 12th. 

Then by the law we are condemned, but 
many transgressors are condemned who 
are never humbled, but are executed with- 
out mercy. O! that we might have a 
glimpse of that purity against which we 
have sinned, that we might be humbled, 
and that a sense of the goodness, the love, 
the mercy, the compassion, the long suf- 
fering of our God might melt us down in 
humble contrition at the sovereign feet, 
that he might in the glorifying of triumph- 
ant grace lift us up in due time. 1st Pet. 
5th. 6th. Let us take with us words and 
turn to the Lord and say, take away our 
sins and receive us graciously. Hosea, 14th. 
2nd. Beseeching him in the name and for 
the sake of his Son Jesus Christ, to have 



toe'rcy upon us, to spare, (o have pity for 
his great, name sake. Let us under a sen- 
sibility of our sinfulness, in view of his 
grace and mercy, draw near to him, be- 
seeching; him earnestly, fervently, and per- 
severingly, that he would have mercy on 
lis and his ZiOn, and restore unto us in the 
magnitude of his grace the joys of his sal- 
vation. Psa. 5 1st. 12th; that he cast uS not 
away from his presence, nor take his holy 
spirit from us, verse 11th; but that we 
might again rejoice in his smiles, delight 
in his law, walk in his precepts, and joy in 
his holy name; entreat htm to display his 
glorious power, open the bosom of his love, 
tinfold his bleeding hands, display the ban- 
ner of his love, reclaim all our wanderings, 
and give us to feel, and see, and realise the 
beauties of holiness, which becomes' the 
house or church of God forever. Psa. 93rd. 
5th. And thereby draw us away from the 
world with all its vanities, its pride, its 
pomp, its' show; with all its follies, decep- 
tions, delusions; its errors, sins, snares, 
temptations, vices, curse and death, and 
Consequential damnation. When we shall 
be set free from snares and griefs, and 
doubts and sins, and cares and death, fol- 
lies will no longei engross and fill our 

Let us then with all our weakness,, fic- 
kleness, sins and failings, cast ourselves at 
his feet saying: Here. Lord, I give myself 
away; 'tis all that I can do — when he will 
purge our conscience, enlighten our dark- 
ness, inflame our love and quicken our 
zeal, purify us and make our hearts a 
dwelling place for his holy spirit to teach 
and guide us in all truth; and enable us 
with an unwavering tongue to cry, Father, 
Father. May the Lord hasten the time 
to remove darkness, expose errors, restore 
the wandering, purify our hearts, purge our 
souls, and bless, his Zion with light and 
peace, to the praise of his glorious trium- 
phant grace, through Christ the Lord, his 
word and holy spirit. Amen and A men. 

17 th Oct. 1845. 

From the Western Predestinarian Baptist. 

Elizabeth City, Pasquotank co. N. C. 
Jan. 24, 1846. 
Dear Brother Newport: While' in the 
furnaceof affliction, both in body and mind, 
I have to sympathise with- you aiid your 
dear affii'eted companion, hoping the Lord 
will deliver us out of them all, either in 
this world or that which is to come, as it 
seemeth him good. I have long wished 
some able minister would write out their 
views on the latter times, since, so many 
have touched on it, but not to establish a 
scriptural line of doctrine in a manner td 
distinguish between the anti-christian 
opinion, and give the true time Of night. 
I am not able to write much-, but while I 
have strength, t desire td send my best 
Christian respects to all the brethren and 
sisters, readers and writers of your paper, 
that earnestly contend for, and believe in 
the one Lord, one Faith, and one Baptism; 
for I hope I love all that love our Lord 
Jesus Christ in sincerity, and truth; 
bnt, especially those that practice hti- 
liness in the fear of the Lord. Dear 
brother Thomas Paxton, where is he? 
slain in the gospel field, or weary in well 
doing? In due season we shall reap if we 
faint not v I could wish the Lord 
would send him here with the rest of 
the faithful ministers, if consistent with 
his will. We are almost destitute 
here. I could wish I had brother 
Paxton in my withered arms, I could un- 
boso'm myself to you, and let you know 
what the Lord has done for me,' through' 
your writings, as an instrument, at the Ve'- 
ry time of need — at the Lord's time^-at 
the appointed time the blessed Lord, f 
think, revealed to you in Louisiana, in 
your third letter on the New Creature,- 
the very doctrine in dispute, and which? 
seemed to have its desired effect in correc- 
ting the errors and causing the aggrieved- 
brethren to^ return home .with ; tears of re- 

I have many dear brethren who once were' 
neighbors in days past that are now scat- 
tered. beyond the western hills, that $ 



should like to hear from. With them I 
have enjoyed many precious moments in 
the presence of the Lord. Brother and 
Sister Sawyer, James Mason, Redick Cal- 
ley, and others were with us in some 
of our severest struggles with the anti- 
part of our Baptist brethren. Brother 
Sawyer stood to his post as a faithful 
soldier of the Cross, and earnestly conten- 
ded for the faith; may the Lord, who is our 
only hope, refresh our wings while waft- 
ing o'er the western hills to anticipate that 
heavenly oneness toward God and each 
other. Dear brethren, rt is a very cold 
time with us, some of our churches are al- 
most surrounded with a people who teach 
for doctrine the commands of men as the 
ancient Pharisees. Dear brethren, those of 
you who may chance to see this scribble — - 
scripture and some experience have taught 
me the more earnestly you contend for the 
faith, the more you come out from the i 
world; and the plainer you can make the: 
truth, as it is in Jesus shine, the more I 
you can refute and confound the doctrines 
of the day, the more false worshipers will 
persecute you, and the sooner you would 
be called the offscouring of all things, for 
Christ's sake, by them that know not 
God; for he that was born after the flesh 
persecuted him that was born after the 
spirit, it is even so now. But the scrip- 
tures command us to cast them out, for they 
shall notbe heirs; the law was our school' 
masterto bring us to Christ, that we might 
be justified by faith; but after that faith is 
come (Christ,) we are no longer under a 
schoolmaster; then the necessary change 
of priest, woid and law, from a ceremonial 
to a spiritual killing letter; for, by it, 
is the knowledge of sin in its literal 
and spiritual contents on the mind. The 
ten commandments says: "Thou shalt 
not kill, steal, bear false witness," &c, 
charging man with ten thousand sins, 
which he hath committed, setting home 
the condemnation of the law; this natural 
& spiritual men can see & measurably feel, 
hence he discovers the holy command- 
ments, showing thou shalt do unto all men 
as you would they should do unto you; 

thou shalt love the Lord, and thy neighbor 
as thyself, and be holy and perfect as your 
Father in heaven is perfect, &C. Here he 
engages to form or work out a righteous- 
ness in trying to fulfil the requirements of 
the commands, &c Here the self-righte- 
ous, wanders in the field of uncertainty or 
broad and frequented road to destruction, 
with no other zeal but a slavish fear; while 
the holy contents of the law imparts dri 
the quickened soul its condemriationj and 
shows him the sinfulness of his own hearty 
and destroys the first-born of his strength 
or former hope. Here the dreadful peals- 
of Sinai's thunders roll into his guilty soul 
—here he sees he must be lost without a 
better SavioUr than his own righteousness 
—here he discovers a Saviour, but aot for 
him^-here a godly sorrow works a repent- 
ance, not to be repented of — here he sees 
his sins hath Crucified the Lord of glory ,- 
and put him to an open shame— here des- 
pair reaches his guilty soul-<— here his dy- 
ing cry is, God be merciful to me a sinner' 
— here sin revives and he dies; those COrn- 
mandments he thought was unto life^ pro- 
ved to be unto death, crying, Lord save 
or I perish — here Christ shows himself 
the end of the law for righteousness, to the 
believer in language like this;, be not 
faithless, but believe; son or daughter be' 
of good cheer, thy sins which have been" 
many are all forgiven thee. Here the soul 
is made righteousness of God in him, and 
though once an enemy by wicked works 
hath he reconciled by the body of his flesh 
through death, to present you holy and 
unblamable and unreprievable in his sight;- 
that the righteousness of the law (the ful- 
filment of the commandments) might be' 
fulfilled in us who walk not after the 
flesh but after the spirit — that those holy 
commandments, that so condemn the soul 
in self, and justifies him in the spirit, and 
evidences his justification in Christ's righ- 
teousness which rejoices his soul, and often 
makes him cry out with full thanks be to 
God which giveth us the victory through 
our Lord Jesus Christ. 

Those things hinted at, I hope I am in- 
terested in, and under that filial tear due 



10 parents and companions in honor of our 
heavenly Father, submitting ourselves to 
his parental care so as to excuse ourselves 
in practical godliness, and to keep a con- 1 
science void of offence toward God and 
man. Yours in hope of eternal life. 



SATURDAY, JULY 4, 1846. 


Died, on Monday, the 29th June, in 
Louisburg, N. C. Alary, the wife of Elder 
C. B. Hassell, of Williamston, aged 35 
years. The deceased was the most affec- 
tionate of wives and the most devoted of 
mothers, sparing neither trouble or pains to 
render all around her comfortable and hap- 
py. Her health had been delicate for the 
last ten years, but yet through all this 
time she was nearly constantly laboring 
for her family in some department or oth- 
er. For the benefit of her health and that 
of his children, her husband had taken 
them to Louisburg, where they spent the 
last summer and intended to spend this al- 
so there. Her general health however did 
not much improve, and after giving birth 
to an infant eight days previously, she 
yielded up her spirit on the 29th, as above 
stated, amidst the kindest attention of her 
friends and in defiance of the best medical 

The deceased has left behind her four 
children, besides her tender infant of a 
week old. Her loss will be much deplo- 
red by her relations and friends, for those 
who knew her best loved her most. She 
led a very exemplary and Christian-like 
life, but never had made any public pro- 
fession of religion. 

name of Lucy Pitts. In a letter address- 
ed to James King, Of Cabell county, I 
learned that she lived in the State of Geor- 
gia, but county not known. 

It would give me great satisfaction in 
writing for your valuable paper, but I am 
getting very old and infirm, and my mind 
becoming impaired. I am now in my 78th 
year. I shall continue to take your paper 
for the present year, and probably longer 
if I should live. I desire to be remem- 
bered to all my Christian friends of the 
Primitive faith and order. I delight in 
reading your communications, for truth 
must stand when every thing else fails. 

I have nothing more to add at present, 
but remain your affectionate sister in the 
church. SALLY MILLER. 


Ballardnville, Logan county, Va. 7 
May 24 th, 1846. > 
Dear brethren Editors: I wish to 
obtain some information concerning a sis- 
ter of mine who lives in Georgia, by the 


The Good Shepherd. C. M. 
Great Shepherd of the sheep below, 

On thee we all depend; 
give us grace that we may grow; 

And hold out to the end. 

Tis by thy grace we grow and thrive, 

While on thy bounty fed; 
keep our drooping faith alive, 

Our Shepherd and our head. 

By faith we walk and not by sight, 

keep us in the way; 
And guide our wandering footsteps right, 

And teach us how to pray. 

And we shall stand and never fall 

And in the way be found; 
Until we quit this earthly ball, 

And tread o-n holy ground. 


Macon, Ga. May 6, 1845. 


Appointment a for Elder P. Puckelt. 

July 9th, at Tison's m. h.; II ih, at Tar- 
boro'; 12th, at Lawrence's; 13th, at Deep 
Creek; 14th, at Kehukee; 16ih, at Joiner's 
Chapel; 18th and 1 9 1 h , at South Quay; 
21st, at Joiner's Chapel; 23rd, at LogCha- 
pel;. 24th, at Cross Roods; 25lh, at Cone- 
to; 26th, at Great Swamp. 





North Carolina. C.B.Hassell, Wil/iamsfoi, 
R. M. G. Moore, Gemianton. W. w.MizeIl,F/,(/- 
mouth. Benji' Bynum, Nahunta Depot, H.\ve- 
ra,Jlverasboro' . Burwell 'Temple, Raleigh. Thos. 
Barley, 'Smii 'hfield. James H. Sasser, Waynes- 
boro 1 . L. Bi Bennett, Ileathville. Cor's Cana- 
day, Cruvensville Wfllfam Welch, Abbott's 
Creek, A, B, Bains. Jr. Stanhope. C. T. Saw- 
yer, Powell's Point. H. Wilkerson^Fe^Po/nr. J. 
Miller, Milton Park. Isaac Meebins and Samuel 
Rogers, Columbia, Wim Mi Rushing,- Whitens 
Stoie. James H. Smith, Wilmington, Jacob Her- 
ring, Goldsboro' , Si Tatum, Elizabeth City, Ad- 
am Hooker, Salem Church, Abiler Lamb, Cam- 
den C. Hi 

■ South Carolina. Wm. S. Shaw, Hock Mills 
W. B. tillard, Sr, liken. _ M.McGraw, Brown's 
J, L? Simpson, JVinnsBoro', Ji Gi Bowers, Whip- 
py Swarnp, Wrrii Nelson, Camden, G, Mat 
thews, Germqrivilfe. J. C. Lucas, Lexington C, H. 
Amos Hill, "Pleasant View-. 

Georgia- John McKenney, Forsyth. Thomas 
Ani'is, Lexington. John Mi Field, Macon. John 
W. Turner, Pleasant Hill. Wlliam Trice and 
Wiftia'm D.Taylor, Tho-uas/nn. Ezra McCr'ary- 
Wurrcntoti. Prior Lewis, Thomusville. L Las, 
setter', Verndn. Abner Durham, Greenville, Geo. 
Leeves, Milkdgeville. W.J. Parker, Chinuba. J ; P. 
E I \\s,'Pineville,'F. Haggard, .9 1 hens. A. Mi Thomp- 
son,' Fort Vulley, Daniel O'Neel, 0//ueCr/m'e. John 
Watfne, Cain's, R, Si Hamriek, Carrol/Ion. D. 
Smith, Cool Spring Moses H. LVnman, Marietta 
Jelhro'Oates, Mulberry Grove, Ishara Edwards, 
Marion. Joseph Daniel, Fish's. Ri L. Hayne, 
Lebanon. T. w. Hearing, Cotton River. E. Davis, 
Green Hi lit, 

Alabama.' A.Keaton, Belmont. FLDance and 
W. Bizzell, Eutaw. E.Bell, Liberty Hill. I. 
G.Walker, Milton. HiWilliams, Ha >dna, J. 
Daniel, Glaiborne, E.Daniel, Church Hill, I. 
Carpenter, Sr. Clinton, J, McQueen, I.bwndesbovo' . 
Wm.Talley , Mount MpriaAi, B Up church, Bene- 
vola. S. Hamriek, Ftan/ersrille. James S, Mor- 
gan, Bay/on. Ruf'us Daniel, Jamesion, Joel Hi 
Cha'mbless, Loweville. F. Pickett, China Grove, 
John w. Pellum, Franklin, John Harrell, Mis, 
souri. Win, Thomas, Gainer's Store. E. M.A- 
mos, Midway> Allen Moore, Intercourse,' John 
Bryan, Sr. Fulltrsville, Benj. Lloyd, Wetumpka. 
N. N. Barmore, Mill Pert, A. Hai.ley, Pinllala. 
Vincent Williams, Mobile: Young Smiih, Eufaa- 
la. T. J. Foster, Bell's Laudiirg. Henry Cason, 
Moniicello. Henry Petty", PickensviWe. D. R, 
P. King, PaincsviWe, John whitehead, Jr. Plea- 
sant A\ains. M. Wi-it'eims^Bridgeuille. Elly 
Bi Turner, Abbevilte. Thomas Townsend, Fork- 
land. Robert Grady, Bluff Port. R. R. Thomp- 
son, Cen'/.re-ji/le, James F. Watson, Geneva. 

Tennessee Michael Butkh'all'ef, Jasper, Wm. 
Crooin, Jackson. Solomon Ruih, Wesley. Ira E, 
Doiithit, Lynchburg, Geo. Turner, Waverly, 
Henry Randolph, Snody'sville, Pleasant A. Wilt, 
Russelville, William MoBee, Old town Creek, 
A. Burroughs, Moore's'* 1 , Roads. James Shelton, 
Fortersvi.lle'' Shadrach Mustaih, LevfisbUrg\ Na- 
than S. McDowell, Tazewell, Henry Turner, Fay- 
ettevllle. Isaac Moore, Ripley, James Sailing, 
Bull Run, 

Mississippi. William Huddleston and Ed- 
mund Beeman, Thoma,ston. Simpson Parks and 
Samuel Canterherry, Lexington. John Si Daniel, 
Cotton Gin. Pert. Mark Prewett, Aberdeen, 
Wm.Davis, Houston, C. Nichols, Stump Bridge. 
Woolen Hill, Cooksvi//e< John Davidson, Car 
rollton. Thomas Mathews, Black Huwk. 
Lee, Beatie's Bluff, James T. S. Coekerham, 
Grub Springs, James Crawley, Minghorna. Jos. 
Edwards, New Albany. Thomas Ci Hunt, Mc- 
Leod'i. John Halbert, Nashville. Wilson Hunt, 
Stewart's, John Scallorn* Pleasant Mount, John 
Kinnard, Daley's X Roads. K, B. Stallings, De- 
kalb. . <,..,.., j 

Florida. Hartwell Watkins, Monticello, Lew- 
is Tucker, Campbe/llon. . ■■ ... 

Louisiana. Thos> Paxton, Greensboro'. Jas, 
Peikins and Needham Coward, Big woods. L. 
Gi McGancrhey, Ballieu's Ferry. Benjamin Gar- 
lington, Ngreet, .. 

Arkansas. John Hart, Saline. George w- 
Rnaexs,Jirkadelphia. C, B. Landers, Union. J}. Hi 
Ji M. C i Robertson, Foster's, John Honea,,, Ozarkl 

Missouri. John P. McDowell, New Market', 

Illinois. John Alshury, Lick Creek. 

Indianai wilson Connar. Co\umbia, 

Ohio. John B. Moses, German/on, . ,. 

Kentucky. Washngion . Watts, Cornelius, 
vi/le. Levi Lancaster Canton. Skelton R'enfro,' 
(•.amherlaud Ford. Tandy James, Somerset,' Isaac 
Horn, Rome. 
Virginia. Rudol phRorer, Berger's Store. Wrrn.' 
w. West, 'Whea/ley. William Burns, Davis' 
Mills, Jesse Lank/ord. Bowers's, A> Rorer. Edge-' 
hill Thomas Flippen- Laurel Grove. Thomas 
w Walton, Pleasant Gap. Levi Bishop, Sj'nc/aj'rV 


Wm. Harrison, 


R. R. Thompson, 


E. Eatman, 


Thos. Latta, 


Wm. Price, 


Sally Miller, 


N. N. Barmore, 


Levi Bishop', 


Saml.L.Arrjngton, 1 

Samuel Rogers, 


Jacob Lindsey, 


Jason Matlock, 


Jer. Hv Pickens, 


Geo. W. Caraker 


Jas. L. 'Morgan, 


N. S. McDoWelli 


Wm. Croojn, 


Isaac Hobii, 


P. Burn, • 


John Hurst,' 


Robert Atchison, 


Jacob Butcher, 


Thos. H. Taylor, 


Benj. Tubb, 


John Smith, 


W. Moore, 


Isham Edwards, 


A. Atkins, 



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JBcllmoni, Alabama, 
301 h April, '46 

Beloved: I am desirous to contribute 
iny mite once more to our highly respect- 
ful, consoling, animating, little, fleeting, 
despised, calumniated paper. For my 
part, I esteem' sfnd" do'at on it in a peculiar 
manner, knowing and believing the good 
(hat has evidently resulted, for these ten 
years and more; a'rdently hoping it will 
continue its profitable endearing progress 
for years yet to come, in connexion with 
the Signs of the Times, &c. &c. Who is 
it pray that has undergone a thorough, ef- 
fectual,- renovating change of heart, can be 
in opposition, or, even speak lightly of its 
sacred, animating-, enlivening pages? None, 
'tis presumed. If there is a solitary one 
indeed, I have my doubts, be he who he' 
may, that he has never yet undergone the 
necessary ehanges constituting the new 

We cannot expect it to be perfect, no, 
indeed, for we of ourselves are full of im- 
perfection. 'Tis attached to our corrupt, 
depraved 1 nature; 'tis conspicuous, diffu-. 
sive light, that the annals of duration nev-! 
er will nor can effectually obliterate and 
annul. No, indeed, men and devils com- 
bined cannot effect it; and why? 'tis foun- 
ded on truth, which is omnipotent, all- 
powerful. The particular reason it is so 
detested,, is its detection of prevalent, dan- 

gerous error, stalking about under dis- 
guise of sanctity, and ardent pretended 
zeal and plausible hypocrisy: ? Beloved- 
brethren, don't be backward arid dilatory 
in your communications; let therri be fre- 
quent, vacant time can't be better em- 
ployed. The good that i£ effected from 
your writings, is incalculable iri various 
respects; don't plead inability, &c. &c; if 
it is ever so little and despicable irt your 
Own estimation, (esteeming others better,) 
'tis good indeed, and strengthening, and 
consoling to' us. Pardon repetition, the 
suggestion of anxiety; don't let our paper 
be deficient, for heaven's*, yours, vour 
children's sakes, and those in embryo. 
'Tis presumed there is enough, and more 
than enough of subject, profitable matter,- 
to occupy fully its sacred improving pa- 
ges, therefore, be up and on the alert, &c. 
Assiduity and industry are only requisite 
to effect the desirable laudable end. 

I felt much elated indeed and encoura- 
ged, to find that bro. P. Saltzmah was yet 
alive, and had not totally forgotten us iri 
6ur languid, depressed state. Permit me' 
to return my grateful thanks for your last 
favorable, consoling piece. May you' 
again renew, and that frequently tod, is' 
our ardent anticipated wish. 

A small incidental circumstance, as it 
were, often produces in a relative point, 
something of greater moment than was' 
first conceived 6f, as iri the present follow-' 
ing instance. Iri travelling lately the" 
road, a lady of respectability and a profes- 
sor too of the missionary order, overtook 



me. She asked me if I was then going to 
meeting? I replied, not to-day, but that I 
intended to go to-morrow; from which a 
religious discourse mutually ensued. In 
the result, however, 1 enquired if she be- 
longed to such a church? She answered, 
she did. And is the Rev'd Mr. W. the 
pastor? He is. Did he baptise you, 
ma'am? 1 was baptised, Sir, in Anson 
county, No. Ca. Are you satisfied to be 
where you are, and to continue?— Reliev- 
ing her to be a Christian. She replied, 
she was satisfied and contented. Well, 
ma'am, if you can enjoy yourself and are 
satisfied, my simple advice is to continue 
where you are. Why, Sir, I don't see 
any difference at all, and I don't see why 
they can't come together and be as one. 
No, indeed, there is a material, essentia? 
difference both in principle and in practice, 
quite opposite. As to their coming toge 
Iher, they retaining their present senti- 

rection. They appeared (o fhe as twO af- 
mies, (as indeed they were,) now fully ar- 
rayed for mutual contest. Their first mo- 
tion and resolve were to relate their evi- 
dence of faith. This was acceded to and 
performed alternately, first one and then 
the other, till completed. It appeared to 
me there Were a deficiency, a discord, not 
a full likeness, excepting one of their par- 
ty, which was Elder P. The rest could 
pronounce Sibbo/eth very fluently, which 
is not the true explicit countersign. This 
perhaps may be prejudice in me, being 
anxiously favorable to my own party; but 
the result however, evidently will show to 
a clear demonstration, beyond a doubt 
even; i. e. the next proposition was, noth-- 
ing shall be introduced but scripture 
proof, let scripture prove scripture, and 
fair and impartial deductions therefrom.. 
heavens be astonished and wonder, this 
they utterly and absolutely refused. O 

ments, r lisr an impossibility; neither is it 'shame, shame! for a religious body thus to 

right they should, for they could not live 
in mutual peace together, that's certain, 
the infallible criterion bejng judge. I 
could not help reflecting on her disadvan- 
tages, both in Anson and in her present sit- 
uation, the corrupt ministry that she- was 
and is now under; for 1 do verily believe 
she is a peculiar one, a Christian divinely 

1 could not avoid thinking of an impor- 
tant impressive circumstance that occurred 
in North Carolina, Lenoir county, at the 
m. h. Loosing Swamp, six miles north of 
Kinston. The event was on this wise, viz; 
The Freewill Baptists requested of the 
Neuse Association an interview, (before 
she the Neuse had separated,) to see if 
they could come together and be as one. 
The Neuse Association accepted the invi- 
tation. They appointed, I think, six rep- 
resentatives each. I hey met, 1 think, on 
Friday in April. It must be twenty or 
more years since the occurrence took place. 
It was twenty miles or more from me, but 
I was desirous to see the meeting. When 
met they took their seats in an opposite di- 

refuse. Tell it no*t in Gath, publish it no 
more in the streets of infamy and reproach. 
They shamefully refused the good Book, 
the infallible standard. -This was FairgulN 
ing,. and an intended imposition, a cheat? 
but instead thereof they would introduce a 
little noted book compiled by themselves, 
their creed, whieh they said they were 
willing to abide by, in preference. This? 
takes the "rag off the bush." Infamous, 
indeed. This was suggested and offered 
by their principal, their arch, enterprizing, 
ingenious one, Elder J. B. B-ut his odi- 
ous proffer was contemptuously refused, 
with utter disdain and contempt. They 
held their meeting three da) s, and there 
parted in quite an ill humor, seemingly 
much irritated; so their parting was worse' 
by far than their meeting. They were 
finally disappointed in their fond, errone- 
ous anticipation. This of itself goe3 .to 
shew clearly, beloved, that the Baptists are 
a sterling, obstinate, a distinct people; and 
ought and will be separate from the per- 
verse. .And why? They are of the royal 
blood princes and principles allied to 



{he bfessed Jesus', ihe prince of order and 

I went td the meeting from curiosity, 
a'rtd was highly gratified; for I could not 
See hdW it was possible for them to come 
Together' and be united as one, when the 
difference was so great; and they believing 
is they did, qhiile in opposition to each 
Other. It would be 1 i It e joining Coil and 
{felia'l in 1 unison as one, &c. This is" not, a 
hovel, a' strange thing; no indeed, belov- 
ed 1 ,, it has ever been from ihe commence- 
iWent of time', and will continue while lime 
Js suffered tOlast and conlinue. And why,' 
pray? ' Pisf the' Lord's doings, and it is 
great afid marvellous, indeed beyond our 
full conception. And why again, pray? 
tie has declared the War himself, and we 
is hi's subjects are bound of necessity to 
Contend and persevere in the raudahle, just, 
equitable war. -.Let it be in ,-incerjly and 
truth, and from a right principle, because 
h is' his blessed cause, and he will strength- 
en, and : embolden, and animate us, in his' 
rigWeous cause, to ; the discomfiture of the 
perverse- and' wicked. Remember, never 
to compromise .00 no terms whatever, in- 
compatible with his blessed word, the de- 
claration of the 'blessed spirit. 

In' reference to the above, Ihe enemy 
frequently and snealiingiy endeavoring lo 
introduce,- to intrude, and impose, them- 
selves, their corruption, and to get unlaw- 
ful entrance into the true' church, has ever 
Been; and' now is, and will ever be the case,, 
is" undoubted; and cannot be plausibly de- 
nied, to call attention and fo quote .from 
Buck's Theo: Diet. 

"Arminian's; persons Who follow the 
doctrines of Arminian, who was pastor at 
Amsterdam, and afterwards professor cf 
divinity at Leyden. Armifiius had been 
educated in the opinion^ of Calvin; but, 
thinking the doctrine of that. great : man 
wilh'regard to free will, predestination, 
and grace, too severe, he' began to express 
his doubts concerning thdin in the year 
1591 ; ; andi upon farther inquiry, adopted 
the sentiments of those whose religious 
{System extends the love of the Supreme 
Being_and the merits of Jesus Christ to all 

mankind. The Arminians are also called 
Remonstrants, because, in 1611, they pre 
sented a remonstrance to the States-gene- 
ral, wherein ihey state their grievances, 
and pray for relief. 

"Ihe distinguishing tenets of the Armi- 
nians m iy be comprised in the five follow- 
ing articles relative to predestination, uni- 
versal redemption, the corruption of man,' 
conversion and perseverance, viz: 

"I. That God,. from all eternity, deter- 
mined to bestow salvation on chose whom 
he foresaw would persevere unlo ihe end; 
and .to inflict everlasiing punishments on 
those who should continue' in their unbe- 
lief, and resist his divine succours; so that 
election waS conditional, and reprobation, 
in like manner, the result of foreseen infi- 
delity and persevering wickedness. 

'•II. That' Jesus Christ, by his sufferings 
and' death, made an atonement for the sins 
of all mankind in general^and of every in- 
dividual in particular; that, however, none 
but those who believe in him can be parta- 
kers of divine benefits. 
, 'dll That true faith', cannot proceed 
from the exerc.ise of our natural faculties 
and powers, nor from the force and opera- 
lion of free will; since man, in conse- 
quence of his natural corruption, is incapa- 
ble either of thinking or doing any good 
filing; and that, therefore, it is necessary, 
in order to his conversion and salvation, 
that he be regenerated and renewed by the 
operation- of (he'Holy Ghost, which is the 
gift of God through Jesus Christ. 

'•IV. That this divine grace or energy 
of the Hoi}' Ghost bpgins and perfects ev- 
ery thing that can he called good in man, 
land, consequent I v, all good works are to - 
be attributed to God alone;, that, neverthe- 
less, this grace is offered to all, and does 
not force men to a>'t agunst their inclina- 
tions, but may be resisted and rendered in- 
effectual by Ihe perverse will of the impe- 
ndent sinner'. Some modern Arminians 
interpret this and the last article with a 
greater latitude 

"V. That God gives to the truly faith- 
ful who are' regenerated by his grace the 
means of preserving themselves in this 
slate. The first Arminians, indeed, had 
some doubt with respect to the closing part 
of this article;but their followers uniform- 
ly maintain 'that the regenerate rm:y lose 
true justifying faith, fall from a state of 
grace*, and die in their sins.' " 

''Some of the principal writers on the' 
,sidc uf the Arminians have been Arming 



Us, Episcopins, Vorsius, Grotius, Curcel- 
leus, Li m bore h, Le Clere, Wetstein, Good- 
Win, Whitby, Taylor, Fletcher, &c. &c. 

"Some of the principal writers on the 
other side have been Polhill in his Dook 
on the Decrees; John Edwards in his Ve 
ritas Redux; Cole in his sovereignty of 
God; Edwards on the Will, and Original 
Sin; Dr. Owen in his Display of Armini- 
anism, and on particular Redemption; Gill 
in his Cause of God and Truth; and Top- 
lady in almost all his works." 

This we may call Arminianism in full 
colors and splendid array in opposition, en- 
deavoring to sully and obliterate, and dero- 
gatory to his character as a full and com- 
plete Saviour, a propitiatory sacrifice, ful- 
ly adequate in all respects, determined and 
fixed in eternity, without a particle of re^ 
servation whatever. The creature has no 
part nor lot in the matter, and 1 am glad 
and rejoice that it is so indeed. And 
why? 'Tis a sure and solid foundation, that 
the gates of hell cannot penetrate and dis- 
comfit in no wise whatever. 

It may be seen from the quotation, that 
the boasted, the chieftain of Arminianism, 
had his opposers in the memorable time 
two centuries past, who contended earnest- 
ly and vehemently for the truth, and seal- 
ed the truth with every privation, and ulti- 
mately with their precious blood. They 
speak and ask loudly yet; 'tis a lesson, 'tis 
admonitory; take prudent assiduous care 
of the little flock, guarding against the nu- 
merous devouring wolves in disguise, in 
sheep's elothing, &c. They are stalking 
about almost in every direction, bunting 
for the rich the desirable fleece. These al- 
luded to wolves are easily known, and 
why? they often over act their conspicu- 
ous, obnoxious, hateful part; devil like 
they carry the noted impress, the signet 
en their external figure and odious appear- 
ance, i. e. frizzled foretops, scented and 
stiffened with sweet scented odoriferous 
pomatum. Then only notice their high, 
lofty, aspiring, self-important looks of self 
approbation. This crowns all — where they 
strut they can act divers parts in the igno- 
minious drama, being profoundly system- 

atically taught by the did fiend th&ir pf8» 
ceptor in all the advantageous crafts, &cS 
They tan assume and act many lucrative» 
ingenious, profitable^ accumulative part?) 
equally as well as a stage actor, &c. Un- 
doubtedly their father the devil can boast 
aloud in their proficiency. No doubt he 
has pronounced them great and wonderful 
things, for their assiduity in patterning af- 
ter and coming so near to — 

"Baxterians, so called from the learn* 
ed and pious Mr. Richard Baxter, who was 
born in the year 16(15 His design was 
to reconcile Calvin and Arminius: for this 
purpose he formed a middle scheme be- 
tween their systems. He taught that God 
had elected some, whom he is determined 
to save, without any foresight of their good 
works; and that others to whom the gospel 
is preached have common grace, Which if 
they improve, they shall obtain saving 
grace, according to the doctrine of Armini- 
us. This denomination oWn, with Calvin, 
that the merits of Christ's death are to be 
applied to believers only; but they also as-* 
sert that all men are in a state capable of 

''Mr, Baxter maintains that there may be 
a certainty of perseverance here, and yet 
he cannot tell whether a mas may not 
have so weak a degree of saving grace as to 
lose it again. 
'■In order to prove that the death of Christ 
has put all in a slate capable of salvation, 
the following arguments are alleged by 
this learned author. \. It was the nature 
of all mankind which Christ assumed at 
his incarnation, and the sins of all mankind 
were the occasion of bis suffering.. — 2. It 
was to Adam, as the common lather of lap- 
sed mankind, that God made the promise 
(Gen. iii. 15). The conditional new cov- 
enant does equally give Christ, pardon, and 
life, to all mankind, on condition of accep- 
tance. The conditional grant is universal; 
Whosoever believe/ h shall be saved — & 
It is not to the elect only, but to all man^ 
kind, that Christ has commanded his min- 
isters to proclaim his gospel, aiwl oSer ihe 
benefits of his procuring. 

"There are, Mr. Baxter allows, certain 1 
fruits of Christ's death which are proper to 
the elect only: 1. Grace eventually work- 
eth in them true faith, repmlance, conver- 
sion, and union with Christ, as his living. 
members. — 2. The actual forgiveness of sin 
as to the spiritual and eternal punishment* 



—3. Our reconciliation with God, and 
adoption and light to the heavenly inherit- 
ance. — 4. The spirit of Christ to dwell in 
us, and sanctify us, hy a habit of divine 
love, Rom. viii. 9—13 Gal. v. 6—5. 
Employment in holy, acceptable service, 
and access in prayer, with a promise of be 
ing heard through Christ, Heb ii. 5, 6. 
John xiv. 13. — 6. Well grounded hopes 
of salvation, peace of conscience, and spi 
ritual communion with the church mystical 
in heaven and earth, Rom. v. 12. Heb. 
xii. 22. — 7. A special interest in Christ, 
and intercession with the Father, Uom. 
viii. 32. 33. — S. Resurrection unto life, 
and justification in judgment; glorification 
of the soul at death, and of the body at the 
resurrection, Phil, iii, 20, 21. 2d Cor. v. 
1,2, 3. 

♦•Christ has made a conditional deed of 
gift of these benefits to all mankind; but 
the elect only accept and possess them. 
Hence he infers, that though Christ never 
absolutely intended or decreed that his 
death should eventually put all men in pos 
session of those benefits, yet he did intend 
and decree that all men should have a con- 
ditional gift of them by his death. 

"Baxter, it is said, wrote 120 books, 
and had 60 written against him." — Buck's 
Theo. Diet. 

Beloved, watch them closely, 'lis need- 
ful. Brethren, stand to your several as- 
signed posts, guarding every avenue. They 
can assume the white devil at pleasure, es- 
pecially whenever any extraordinary thing 
is to be effected, they'll put on the white 
plausible deceptive dress, &c; for they 
can transform themselves at any time when 
'tis necessary to dissimulate, &c. Some- 
times they are over-righteous much, they 
are very condescending, extremely kind, 
placid, and benevolent to a fault. You 
may see very devil himself in miniature 
resemblance internally, operating external 
ly in appearance, &c. Therefore, beloved, 
be on the assiduous alert, for 'tis given to 
you, the unction, the spirit of discrimina- 
tion to know the spirit of actuation from 
whence it rises, &c. and judge correctly. 

1 will endeavor to come to a close, as I 
have said enough to entitle me to another 
blessing from the good and benevolent 
folks round about, who are very liberal to 

me indeed, in bestowing their encomiums 
of hatred; 'tis a rich legicy and bequest 
given me in eternity; they give me my 
due, and in gratitude 1 must and do cordi- 
ally thank them, when in a right approv- 
ing spirit to receive. Well done, bestow 
on my inheritance the diadem, &c. 

Before 1 come to a final close, however, 
I must relate a little anecdote, for you to 
see how good and plausible it is, A noted 
preacher, formerly of renown and not far 
distant, went to a church with a mouthful 
of woful dire complaints; in the most mo- 
ving, plaintive, pathetic manner, observ- 
ing to the benevolent church, that his wife 
at home was very sick in ieed, and very 
fearful indeed that it was a sickness unto 
death: (don't laugh, brethren, for he's a 
full blooded missionary;) and that he nev- 
er more expected to see her alive again, 
(poor man,) and that his poor destitute fa- 
mily were in a state of starvation, for the 
want of peculiar necessaries, &c. But his 
agitated mind was disturbed and impress- 
ed, for the great worth of souls, so that he 
could not abide at home. (O thou pious, 
benevolent philanthropist, how admira- 
ble!) The worth of souls was so interest- 
ing and impressive, they very liberally 
contributed an eagle, say $10 00, and for 
him to give it to his unfortunate sick wife. 
What they gave him in addition 1 don't 
know, but to be sure something for his ar- 
dent zeal in visiting them and exhibilingto 
them all he possessed; which I presume 
was not of much value to them, unless they 
could feed on swine's food, &c. But the 
best is to come yet, for instead of his 
spouse being bed-ridden, as was represent- 
ed and nigh unto death,, she was up, then 
going about the neighborhood, only a bad 
cold attendant. This is a new singular 
craft to get some of the needful, a low, ly- 
ing craft indeed. 

Beloved, write on; "don't give up the 
ship." The fury of the storm has not sub- 
sided, 'tis yet raging furiously. 1 still, 
brethren, feel myself as a sinner of the 
greatest magnitude, and do yet remember 



the wormwood and the g^H, and how I was! golden calf, or cry aloud to Baal, while 

carried to and shook over (he bottomless 
pit; the appalling, awful thunders of Ml. 
Sinai, I never shall nor can forget; nnd the 

others may offer incense to the queen of 
heaven. The Greeks may have their 
30,000 deities, and other Gentiles may 

unexpected exulting relief 1 obtained. | have vast numbers. Multitudes may fol- 
through the atoning Mood of the blessed i low Mahomme'd, or the Pope of Rome, 

others may adore the Grand Lama, Boadh, 
Fo, or Sha, or offer their lives a victim un- 
der the .wheels of Juggernaut And in 


"0 come, my clear brethren, count al 
things but loss, 

Your treasure's in heaven, don't shrink Christendom and among Protestants there 
from the cross; 

You're fav'riies of heaven, dear lambs of 

the fold, 
By devils surrounded, be faithful & bold. 

Go on, my dear brethren, and stronger 
you'll be, 

are idols innumerable, "gods many ami 
lords many," instituted instead of the God 
of heaven, For whatever object may have 
special hold of the affections, or may be 
looked up to, or in any degree relied on as 

Fill you come to Zion your Saviour to, a deliverer from sin or fiom hell, is a god 

to that being, that thus adores, or relies on. 
A man with a Bible in his hand professed* 
ly contending for it and its principles, may 
not have his affections supremely on the 
God who is its author He may cry aloud, 
his congregation may weep and mourn, and 
the worship of God not be carried on, con» 

And then all the ransom'd will join you to 

Sweet anthems of praises to Jesus your 


You do not, nor can any, yet fully see, 
How glorious and happy the Christians 
will be; 

But this for your comfort in scripture is trition for sin may not be felt, nor one feel. 

c ' ear > . ing of a solemn joy mingled with sorrow 

That saints shall be like him when he doth , f «• - .- • , . . .. - 

because ol a suflering Saviour bearing their 

sins may not thrill through their souls. 

Farewell, my dear brethren, beloved of ,-, ... ■ • ,i a- ■ c e 

■ , i , ; Faith mav not view the suffering Son of 

the Lord, 

The footstep" of Jesus you find in his word; 

God as their deliverer, nor his blood as the 

Then follow your leader wherever he goes, onMy fountain that can wash away their 
Stand last and unshaken, whatever oppose I guilty stains; and therefore they "worship 

Brethren, the Lwci bless and keep you 
Adieu, beloved, yours as usual 



Tazewell, Tennessee. 
May 81 A, IS 10 
Dear Brethren: I have often said i 
have often written that the principal cause! He does not foel any need of the holiness 

they know not what.'' 

Man having any dependence in himself 
has none in Gad. If he relies at all in his 
own wisdom, works, merit, righteousness, 
power, sincerity, or intentions, he hag poor 
opinions of and no true reliance on the 
wisdom, woiks, merit, righteousness, pow* 
er, faithfulness, or purpose of his Creator. 

of the difference in religious matters be- 
tween any two individuals, is their diffei- 
ence of opinion on the character and di- 

or righteousness of God, because he has 
never discovered what he is, nor what 
God is, nor the groat distance between 

vine perfections of God, and the character, them; he has no true knowledge of the 
and nature of man, and the relation he g'^l disparity between his wisdom, works, 

bears to his great creator and sovereign. 
IVlan appears to be a creature fond of wor- 
ship, and as his ideas, are of God, so will 
his worship be. Some may sing around a 

righteousness, &c , and the wisdom, &c of 
God. He consequently levels the perfec- 
tions of God, to the capacities of a creature, 
and judges how he works and how he 



should work, and is ready to murmur, fret., 
and repine, against the dispensations of 
Providence, when adversity overtakes 
him, instead of being resigned to his allwise 
purpose; believing himself to be capable ol 
judging or determining what the works ot 
the Almighly are, what his government 
and justice aie, and what his judgment 
6hould be. 

But poor man he knows no more of the 
modus operandi, the manner or way of his 
operation, than he does of the modus exist- 
endi, how he exists. He knows not that 
there is as much difference between him 
and his creator, as there is between time 
.and eternity, light and darkness, life and 
death, wisdom and folly, iniquity and holi- 
ness, finitude and infinitude; and therefore 
he relies on his free will, free agency, 
power of choice, righteousness, obedience, 
&c., as the ultimata by which he is to come 
into the favor of God, and be heard or re- 
ceived by him. And he certainly places 
himself independent of the dominion of 
God or the devil, when he holds that man 
has power as much to do good as to do evil: 
that he can choose or refuse, receive or re- 
ject, worship or not worship; worship 
aright or worship wrongly. And thus he 
places himself as it were between God and 
the devil; God wooing and beseeching 
him, the devil alluring and tempting him; 
and he thus situated can according to his 
opinion turn to God or the devil as he may 

Tell me, ye wise logicians, ye powerful 
reasoners, whether or not, (if the creature 
has the power of choice,) he cannot equal- 
ly choose to remain where he is, and nei- 
ther follow God nor the devil? For it is 
evident, if he has power to turn to the one, 
or the other as he may please, he has equal 
power to remain where he is if he please*. 
And what would become of him? he would 
neither be a follower of God, nor the devil; 
he would not be taken captive by satan at 
his will, nor under the dominion of Jeho- 
vah. He would neither be under the reign 
of grace nor of sin ; the strong man armed 

would not have his palace nor obtain it, but 
would only be trying to get it; neither 
would the stronger have po-session, nor be 
likely or able to obtain it, for he might 
choose to remain where he is in defiance 
of both, and set up for himself. He would 
be neither good nor bad, he would have no 
goodness in him to move him towards God, 
nor no iniquity to move him towards satan. 
Where would he be? Would he not be 
between truth and falsehood, enmity and 
love, iniquity and holiness, belief and unbe- 
lief, justification and condemnation, light 
and darkness, life and death? He would 
neither be righteous nor sinful, he would 
neither be a saint nor a sinner, he would 
have no Saviour to save; nor no naed of, 
nor desiie for one. And as the devil could 
not overcome him, 1 ask emphatically, 
where is he? Yes, where is he? He is 
on the middle ground so much esteemed 
by money hunters, and gospel perverters; 
and as he has finally to die, and as this 
world is to be destroyed, where would he, 
according to the power of choice system, 
eventually land? He has not been a fol- 
lower of God nor of satan, neither grace 
nor sin have had dominion over him. He 
cannot enter into, nor see the kingdom of 
heaven, because he is not born again. God 
is too just to cast him off to hell, except he 
has been a follower of satan, and where 
will we find him? He must exist some- 
where. 1 know of no place for him to oc- 
cupy, except the only middle ground the 
scriptures reveal, viz: the gulf between the 
rich man and Abraham, at which place, 
though between them, he would not be 
able to act out free will, free agency, nor 
power of choice. Surely those who be- 
lieve in free will, &c. are not like me — 

For they have not feelings like me, 
Nor know themselves wretched & lost. 

I was not between God and the devil, but 
taken captive by satan at his will. My 
will was, I will not come till I and my 
will were subdued by the power of God, 
and brought in sweet subjection by the 
reigning power of divine grace. Heaven 


pmmitivh: bap'i ist. 

born souls do not want a middle ground, 
because they know there can he no middle 
Way, except there are at least two others 
leading to the same place. They know but 
two ways and these are not parallel, but dir 
{imetrically opposite; the one leads to hea- 
ven, the other to hell. They want no freer 
dom except that which comes from truth 
£»pd the Son of God. They know nothing 
about a middle belief or doctrinp. they 
know of but two, the one following or ori- 
ginating from faith as the gift of God, or 
• the witnessing testimony of the Holy Spi- 
rit; the other, from the imagination of 
jriqn, or testimony or delusion of satan, 
They c|° not become belter and wiser in 
their oavr v\ew 1 but view an infinite dis- 
tance between them and their God, i hey 
View an infinite disparity between their 
best performance and the demands of the 
law, and the work and. holiness of God. 
They view an infinite distance between 
their faculties and perfections of God. 
They are free to acknowledge that God's 
Work of creation, from the smallest minu- 
tia of matter to the most ponderous msss, 
with every intermediate purl of matter, is a 
mystery to them. The ways of Provi- 
dence are inscrutable lo them. VVhen- 
ever they endeavor to search put the pur^ of God. or any of the divine per- 
fections of Jehovah, their minds are lost 
jn their infinitude. They find each and ail 
to he greater and greater, higher and high- 
er, and deeper and deeper the more lF>ey 
discover of them; and that like the river 
revealed to Ezekiel, though they ran wade 
tQ the ancles, the knees, or the loins, they 
Will find that the further they may pro- 
gress in their knowledge of each, 'of any, or 
pf a|| the divine perfections, wavs, work, 
or judgments of God; that any, each, and : 
all will be an impassable ground. If their 
minds turn to the self-existence of God, 
they will there find infinitude impassable. 
Jf they turn to the eternity, immutability, 
pmnjscjence, omnipresence, omnipotence, 
justice, love, goodness, righteousness, truth 

and faifhfulness of God, they will find in 
" ' J i 

each and in all infinitude, eternity, and im? 
mutability, incomprehensibly impassable, 
and in incomprehensible union of the one 
incomprehensible and evpr living God the 
Father, Son ami Holy Spirit. 

Could we, dear brethren explore, the 
height and depth, and length and breadth, 
of the infinitude of any of the ways, judg- 
ments, or perfections of Jehovah, with the 
rapidity with which a ray of light passes 
from the sun to our eaith, we would find 
each and all (so to srJeakl to become infi- 
nitely wider, deeper and higher; and we 
would after spending eternal ages in this 
manner, be so far from comprehending the 
infinitude of . ach and of all, as we would 
fall short of filling eternity. And when 
the bride shall have got home, and shall 
have feasted on the riches of Cod's grace 
eternal ages, she will be as far from di« 
mimshing ;he richness and sweetness there- 
of, as she will he of finding out the end of 
eternity, or the length of the duration of 
her Saviour and God. She will sing a new 
song forever and ever, and gaze with holy 
rapture on the superlative glories of King 
Emanuel, her husband and redeemer, in a 
never ending eternity. O eternity! how 
sweet thy name} How transporting to me- 
ditate p,n the happy employment in thee, of 
praising God in an infinite strain ot hea-: 
venly melody. '^Alleluia, the Lord God 
omnipotent reigneth." Being with him 
and being like hiro, and seeing him as he 
is, without a veil between, is, what will 
make heaven to he a place of infinite tes',. 
of infinite happiness, joy and pe-ace. What 
a Saviour! what a heaven! what riches of 
grace and infinite enjoyment, for God-pror. 
yoking, heaven-dai ing, hell deserving 
wretches! But Christ has died and risen, 
a id inti rcedes and prevails: and has a righ- 
teo'Hness th it will hide the sinful deformi- 
ty and heart felt pollution of every one of 
his chosen. Their wills, will be swallow- 
ed up in his; his choice will be theirs,, 
he is their judge, counsellor, advocate, bus 
band, r ghteousne-s. Saviour and Cod 
Farewell. MS. MxBGWEL^ 


1 21 



North Carolina, Edgecombe county, ? 
Jnly, 184 6. $ 


I have seen some writings in the Prim- 
itive that I much approved, and some I 
dickjiot like so well. When I see a piece 
upon Christian experience, and the ups 
and downs of a Christian life upheld by 
sovereign grace, I am well pleased; hut 
when I see some partake too much of 
ridicule and bombast, I do not like it, for 
truth wants no such helps. Let us use the 
word of God and solid arguments, to con- 
found these gospel speculators and distur- 
bers of our peace; their own weight will 
bear them down. Let us, my brethren, ' 
stand up to the truth and bear our united 
testimony against this mass of corruption, ' 
with all its peace-breaking influence. 

When I first became a Baptist which is 
about forty-two years ago, I heard nothing 
about this missionary noise and clatter, 
and brethren dwelt in love and peace to- j 
gether. But about the year 1803, it was 
hrought into our Association, and very I 
quickly began to spoil our peace and cause \ 
division and strife, and so on until the 
present time. We, the Kehukee Associ- ; 
ation put it out of doors in 1827, but trav- ' 
elling mendioants will come within our ' 
borders, and tell the people they are on 
original ground, and the old prodestinari- 
an Baptists are gone off to antinomian ; 
ground. And hear one of them and a 
more rotten Arminian can't be found, if 
among that sect, but sometimes will try to ! 
imitate the old Baptists, and as far as they j 
pan go is into Fullerism, and sometimes in- | 
to Campbellism; and depart from the old 
track of gospel truth, that firmly unites 
the old Primitives in one band. 

Their plans of modern invention are 
enough to sioken any man or woman of 
grace, to lqok and see how modern priest- 
craft can plan and invent schemes to de- 
ceive mankind, and lead them into error 
and falsehood. But God's truth will 

stand, and his Elijah's must defend it, i 
alone. It appears to me that, these mod- 
ern religionists are trying to do away the 
office of the spirit of God, and substitute 
the spirit of delusion in its place; for these 
new sort of Baptists are heaping to them- 
selves teachers having itching ears, that 
shall turn them from the truth and shall be 
turned to fables. And all this noise, and 
rant, and protracted meetings, and Baptist 
fairs, which I think little better than gam- 
bling shops, if I hear the truth of them, 
are fabulous and false. We are but few, 
and we had better be few and be in peace, 
than many in strife and contention. We 
must bear our testimony against this mass 
of corruption. I don't expect to be here 
much longer, as I am seventy-three years 
of age; but let us, my brethren, turn to our 
own house and keep it as clean as we can, 
and keep out all disorder from among 
ourselves. If we are hut few in number 
let us try to keep up good discipline in 
our churches. The greater part of us 
have become too much after the world and 
its flattering toys, and neglect our own 
conference business; but we must try in 
this cold and lifeless time to do our duty 
and leave the event to our God, and watch 
and pray, and try to keep our garments 
unspotted from the world, and turn our 
back upon all false teachers and their doc- 

1 will now address myself to Benjamin 
May, who writes in the Primitive as a por 
et. I expect you, Sir, and my wife are 
own cousins, if you are the son qf Jonas 
May, who went from this country when I 
was a boy. I can remember three broth- 
ers, Mark, Jones, and Samuel, and my fa- 
ther-in-law, Col. Nathan Mayo, was their 
brother. His sons are all dead. I live in 
Edgecombe county, near Tarborough, and 
would be glad to have a line from you at 
any time. I return to my communica- 

I see in the last No. of the Primitive 
there are some of our old sort of Baptists 
away yonder in Texas, and they talk like 
our folks. Some of these modern sche- 
mers complain we are hard with them, be- 



cause we won't fellowship them; that, is I where there was none; and for some time, 
right, turn them every one out if they seemed like the whirlwind that Elijah 
will hold and cling to these -.modern Jesu- heard. But thanks be to God, he sent hi* 
its, For give them power, and they | small still voice amongst us, and the ene- 
show themselves to be a priest-ridden set i my became as still as a stone. I sought 
of despots. Not long since a very promi- him and could not find him, for he wa* 

nent man among them who professes to be 
a great advocate for liberty, offered a reso- 
lution in his church to deal with a member 
of the same church for reading the Primi- 
tive; that don't look much like gospel lib- 
erty, hut like religious despotism. I have 
never run after them for controversy, and 
I will not run from them for. fear of them. 
I stand my ground and have for thirty 
years, and think no better of them now 
than I ever did, but rather worse. I hope 
their plans and inventions are going down 
hillj for their State Convention is likely to 
come to nought for want of funds; but 
they do twist and turn every way but the 

soon cut down and !o he was not. 

In this section the Old Baptists go by 
the name of old ironsides, and it is a name 
given us by the Babylonians. Though a 
hard name, 1 don't think we shall be much 
loser by it; rub the rust off of iron and it 
will shine the brighter, and so we don't 
appear righteous to men hut rusty, but 
God knows them that are his. But what 
discriminations does (lie word of Godl 
make between the old ironsides and th© 
missionaries? Some very clear ones, I 
think, to be discovered by the spiritual- 
minded man, of which is the following. Ir* 

right way to keep their little viper alive, j lh - ( - l2[h chapter of Daniel* you will find 
but I hope it will go like tadpoles in a Daniel in propheoymg-nf a kingdom that 
mudhole, when the water is gone. If lies ! exalted itself above all that, is called God, 
and misrepresentations can keep it alive, it j and that should divide the. land for gain; 
may stand awhile longer; but I hope God's ' this is the mission kingdom. Daniel goes 
truth will kill it yet. i | further and says, he shall have power over 

Now in the bowels of Christian love I the treasures of gold and silver, and shall 

bid you farewell. WM. HYMJlN. 


Henry county. Virginia, 
May 25th, ;»4 6. 
Dear Brethren of the Primitive faith: 
Thinking it might afford you some plea- 
sure to hear from this region, though by 
the pen of a bad writer; if you think prop- 
er, you can give my communication a 
place in your puper. Though the writer 
is very weak, yet the battle is not to the 
Strong, nor the race to the swift, hut of the 
Lord. Knowing not what I shall write, 1 
feel dependent on the Lord for subject 
matter and manner of writing. 

In this neighborhood some time past we 
had a great excitement in religious matters, 
caused by the missionaries declaring them- 
selves to be the old Primitive Baptists, 
spreading themselves like a green bay 
tree, and getting up a considerable church 

stretch forth his hand upon the countries. 
What is this but what they call sending the 
gospel to- the different heathen countries? 
But Daniel says, that tidings out of the 
east and the north shall trouble him; there- 
fore' he shall go forth with great fury to 
destroy. The east here spoken of is the 
Holy Ghost, for when the wise men saw 
his star in the east, they came to worship 
him; which was a figure of the Holy 
Ghost leading to Christ. The north here 
spoken of is the old ironsides, for they 
say how cold 1 am, how barren; yet they 
have to bear the tidings of the Holy Ghost. 
As jeremiah the prophet says, the Lord 
shall raise up a people from the north conn- 
trv against Babylon, and archers that 
should shoot at Babylon and spare no ar- 
rows; and that is why the old ironsides 
have to shoot at missionism and pull down 
the strongholds other craft. For the wea- 
pons of our warfare are not carnal, but 



mighty through God to the pulling down f to editors primitive baptist. 

of strongholds. 

When you shall seethe desolation spoken 
of by Daniel the prophet stand-in the holy 
place, then let them which be in .ludea Are. 
unto the mountains. 'This '.scripture has 
been fulfilled. The holy place here spo- j the stage, of action, and blessed with a 
ken of is the - church, the desolation is the | good degree of health. .1 know not how 

Blount county, Alabama, ) 
June 21st, 1846. $ 
Dear Brethren: Through the mer- 
cies of God 1 am yet permitted to stay on 

false doctrines introducer! into the church 
by the missionaries, before they divided 
the church for gain; which abomination "of 
desolation was the false doctrine of educa- 
ting young men for the ministry, and sejn 
ding the gospel by the money power. A- 
bominable, sure enough. Those that be in 
Judea were the old ironsides portion of the 
church, for he is not a Jew which is one 
outwardly; but he is a Jc-w which is one 
inwardly. The mountain here spoken of 
is the promises of the gospel, as says the 
87lh Psalm, 1st verse: His foundation is 
in the holy mountains. The promises are 
the holy mountains that the old ironsides 
fled unto. 

But a missionary will tell you that a 
man can't preach without going to a semi- 
nary first to get a great education; but let 
us see what the holy mountain will hold 
forth. I come not preaching with the wis 
dom ol words, lest I make the cross of 
Christ of none effect. For ii is written. 1 
will destroy the wisdom of the wise; God 
hath' chosen the foolish things of the world 
to confound the wise, and the Lord knows 
the thoughts of the wise that they are vain. 
A missionary will tell you that, unless the 
people throw in money enough, that the 
gospel can't go to the heathen. John 
says, 1 saw an angel fly through heaven, 
having the everlasting gospel to preach to 
every nation, tongue and people. We 
read that the love of money is the root of 
all evil, can a missionary then take the 
root of all evil and make it bear the fruit 
of all good? I trow not. 1 would as soon 
believe the hemlock could bear figs. By 
their fruits yotr shall know them. And so I 
must come to a close by subscribing myself 

your unworthy serv't. JOHN D. WADE, 'over four hundred members, who profess 

to express my thanks to God and the 
brethren for the satisfaction 1 have receiv- 
ed through the medium of the Primitive 
Baptist. It is a consolation to my soul to 
hear from the brethren! though I have nev« 
er seen many of them-, nor never expect to 
see them in this world, 1 expect to meet 
them where troubles will be done. 

Dear brethren, I am young in years and 
young in grace, and leel weak in mind; 
but 1 wish to ask my Primitive brethren 
one question, and that is a scriptural one. 
1 wish to know if the glorification of a cer- 
tain people that God foresaw, does not 
solely depend on the justification, and the 
justification on the calling of God, and the 
calling on the predestination, and the pre- 
destination on the foreknowledge of him 
who wor keth all things after the council of 
his own will? Romans, 8th chapter, 20, .SO 
verses. i hope some of my Primitive 
brethren will give their views on this im- 
portant .subject, for, brethren, there are 
many in this country who call themselves 
Christians, who deny (hat God will save 
any without some effort by the dead sinner 
to eternal lile. And I am accirsed of prea- 
ching absurd doctrine, when 1 preach sal- 
vation by grace; or, that the correct tree 
cannot bring forth good fruit. 

Brethren, I am surrounded by this kind 
of people. 1 hope my brethren will .vrite 
as plain on the subject as they can. So I 
will close these remarks by assigning my- 
self yours in Christian bonds. 


P. S. I wish to say to brother Lloyd 
that I think there is considerable demand 
for his Primitive Hymn Book in this As- 
sociation, viz: Ml. Zion. There are some 



to be of the Primitive Baptist order, and 
there is a considerable want of Hymn 
books among them.. And if you, brother 
LJoyd, will send some of them to Blounts- 
ville,. Blount county, Alabama,. I will act 
as. agent for you to the best of my skill 
and ability. J Eli EMMH IMILY. 


luick Creek, fMinsia, } 

June 5/ A, 1846 y 

RftETBREN Editors: I shall take this 

opportunity to write a few lines for the 

Primitive, as an epistolary letter to brother 

James Osbourn, of Baltimore. 

Dear hrother in the Lord, 1 shall take 
Ibis method of writing a few lines for your 
perusal. You need not think it strange of 
a boy writing to you, although a stranger 
in the flesh, but I hope not in the spirit. 
You are a man I never have seen the per- 
son of, nor heard you preach. The first 
time I ever had a knowledge of you, was 
seeing your name in the Signs of the 
Times concerning your difficulty in the 
Miami Association. Then thought I you 
must be a corrupt man, as many hard 
things were said about you;, but since that 
time I have learned that a servant of God 
has to suffer many things for the gospel's 
sake, and cause af Christ. There is a fa- 
miliar spirit that exists among the people 
of God, by which they know each other in 
the face of Jesus Christ I one time was 
on a tour among the brethren, and there 
was a brother by the name of David Heart, 
who handed me a book titled The Lawful 
Captive Delivered, which was your life. 
In looking over it, things I found which 
were much to my delight, in seeing your 
life set forth, your Christian conversion set 
forth in it, and also your travel in your 
Christian warfare. 

Dear brother, in looking back to the 
time and place of your deliverance under 
the preaching of Elder Harm, and the sing- 
ing of the song, 

This is the day the Lord hath made, 
He calls the hours his own, &.c. 

It had that tendency to me, although year* 
before my birth, that 1 could look back to> 
the time aud place of your deliverance, and 
rejoice with you of your sins .slain, your- 
enemies destroyed, and not to rise again.. 
In perusing your life, and' many commu- 
nications which you have written, I can, 
chum a full relationship withvyou.inChrist^. 
although 3'our heavenly work was done in, 
the old country, and mine in the Western^ 
States of America. God's method in sa- 
ving poor, lost, and helpless sinners has- 
been one and the same plan eternally. A. 
saint of God by faith, can look back in this* 
generation, and claim relationship witht 
righteous Abel, who brought a more excel- 
lent offering than that of Cain. They can, 
claim the same with old faithful Abraham,, 
as the scripture, Abraham believed] 
God, and it was counted unto him for righ- 

Now to him that worketh is the reward! 
not reckoned of grace, but of debt;, but to 
him that worketh not but believeth on him 
that justi&eth the ungodly, his faith is coun- 
ted for righteousness. Even as David al- 
so describelh. the blessedness of the man 
unto whom God imputetii righteousness 
without works, saying, blessed are they 
whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose 
sins are covered. We can find old David, 
a man after God's own heart, who was in 
possession of the same like precious faith ^. 
of old Abraham, who could say totheGod- 
fearing people, that the Lord had separa- 
ted his sins from him as far as. the east is 
from the west. We further hear the apos- 
tle say, by faith Moses when he came to 
years, refused to be called the son of Pha- 
raoh's daughter; choosing rather to suffer 
affliction with the people of God, than to 
enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; es- 
teeming the reproach of Christ greater rich- 
es than the treasures of Egypt. Indeed 
we might bring a cloud of witnesses to tes- 
tify to one and the same thing, but space 
will not permit in the limit of a short let- 
ter; but there is one thing 1 wish to say 
concerning the matter of those witnesses, 



&nd that familiar spirit or knowledge thai } 
•exists among the people of God. It is in 
"Buch a manner and way that they can't be 
^mistaken in the matter; as we hear the 
apostle say: For this is the covenant that I 
will make with the house of Israel: after 
'those days, saith the Lord, I will put my 
laws inlo their mind, and write them in 
their hearts, and will be to them a God, 
■and they shall be to me a people; and they 
shall not teach every mar. bis neighbor and 
■every man his brother, saying, know the 
Lord; for all shall know me from the least 
to the greatest, for I will be merciful to 
their unrighteousness, and their sins and 
their iniquities I will remember no more. 
It is that invisible vvoik wrought in the 
soul, thai newness of life in Christ Jesus, 
that we should not walk after the flesh, but 
after the spirit. 

Dear brother, when we are in Christ we 
shall not want, for he is our all in all; and 
and may you through the further progress 
of j'our ministry, be enabled to feed the 
lambs and sheep of the fold, and say with 
the apostle: 1 am not ashamed of the gos- 
pel of Christ, for it is the power of God un- 
to salvation to every one that believes. 
IVJay you be in possession of that principle 
of the apostle, that you should feel to be a 
debtor to the Greek and barbarian, to the 
wise and to the unwise. Say unto the', them. And he will shew them what great 

hope the time is not far distant when I 
will be able to send and procure a lot of 
them. So 1 will have to come to a close 
by saying, when it goes well with you re- 
member me. May the time not be far dis- 
tant when I shall hear from you again. 1 
Would be glad you or any of the brethren 
would write to me. Direct to Lick Creek, 
Sangamon county, Illinois. Sonomoreat 
present. * ;«/ JlLSHUHY 


Black Hartk, Mississippi, 
Jane 29, IS46. 
Dear Brethren and Sisters IN THK 
Lord, scattered all over these United 
Stales: This is to let you know that 1 love 
the little messenger* for 1 think it brings 
good news to me almost wherever it comeS 
from . For it is pleasure for me to read my 
brethren's writings, when they tell their" 
experiences and the travel of their minds 
on religious matters. 1 believe that God is 
carrying-on his work, and will do all his 
pleasure and save all his people; and all 
the praying, and all the preaching tha' the 
people can do, will not add any to his king- 
dom nor make any the less; for his people 
are bone of his bone, and flesh of his flesh, 
and when the right time comes he will let 
them know that he is acquainted with 

poor, the blind, halt, and lame, to come to 
the feast, behold t all things are ready. 
There is a gospel that is clebted to the 
Greek and not to the barbarian, to the wise 
and not to the unwise; has soothing 
words but an empty sound, which is calcu- 
lated to deceive and give currency to the 
prophet Baal, or to Hagar's children. 

Dear brother Osbourn, I hope you will 
visit us in these parts of Illinois soon in 
your travels. I hope your mind has been 
led in this part of the world. Religion is 
cold here at this time, but I hope the Lord 
will soon raise up a people here famous for 
the name of Jesus. Comeoverand help 
us, and may' the Lord bless you. 1 would 
be glad to see more of your books, and 

sinners they are; and make them believe in 
him; and he will make them walk in good 
works, for he has ordained good works for 
them to walk in. And he is not to be frus*- 
trated in any of his calculations. 

Religion is at a low ebb here, but 1 
think the Lord has some people here, and 
they have a hard time of it; but I think 
that is their portion in this world, but the 
Lord has promised them a crown when 
they leave this world, and a robe too, and 
this ought to make them willing to bear a 
great deal. These are my doubts some- 
times, whether 1 have ever tasted grace or 
not; 1 have so many things getting in my 
way, that 1 cannot bear them as I wish to, 
on account of nay not doing, what I think i 



ought to do, it almost makes mc feel asha- 
med to own that I am a Baptist- But 
there is no other name so sweet. I be- 
lieve he that is a Baptist is one that is a 
Baptist inwardly, for it is not the outward 
appearance that will do. 

My race is almost run, I feel like I was 
almost alone. My children are all most 
grdw'n, and none of them belong to trie 
Primitive church as I know of. I would 
ask the brethren to remember them in 
their prayers. I think every Christian 
has prayed for them, hut I would like to 
see them buried in the liquid grave before 
I leave this world, if the .Lord is williii"-, 

I would like to see some more of that 
brother's writing that lives in Texas, for 
he has wrote one piece I like to read. 
Brother' Durham is his name. My dear 
brethren, I hope we will get out of the 
reach of these temptations, where trials 
will be no more. Amen. . . 


Thomas county, Georgia, ? 
July §th, 1846. >. 

Dear Brethren: Please publish the 
death of two of our ministers, a statement 
of which I give you below, though I do 
not think it necessary in common to trou- 
ble our Editors with such publications; 
but preachers generally have an extensive 
acquaintance, and for the sake of those 
distant friends with whom a Christian .inti- 
macy has been made, obituary notices 
would likely be acceptable. Yours in 
Christian love. . PRIOR LEWIS. 

Elder William Hawthorn departed 
this- life the 15th day of May last, after- a 
short illness of about three days. He was 
about eighty years of age', had been in the 
ministry about fifty-five years, was a man 
of talent, and devoted a long life to the 
eanse of God and the people. ' He was af- 
fectionate to his . family, tender of his 
brethren', and given to hospitality — has 
fought a good fight and kept the faith, and 
is gone to< realize the blessed promises of 
the gospel; leaving his aged- companion 
with a number of children, and children's 

merous Christian friends to lament tfieir' 
bereaved state. From whom the melan- 
choly tears had. but just been wiped'away, 
which were shed at the death of— 

Elder Elias 0. Hawthorn, (son of 
the above,) which took place on the 19th 
of February last. He was in the forty- 
first year of his age, had labored in the 
gospel fourteen years, and remained sted- 
fast in the Primitive faith. He left no 
children, but a widowed companion to 
mourn the loss of an affectionate husband. 

Both the above died at their own resi- 
dence in Decatur county, Ga. 

From the Signs of the Times, 
Brother Beebe: A few days ago I 
received ■ a letter from my father in Ma- 
con county, Ala., informing me of the 
death of my beloved sister LucindA- 
Towees, of Russell county, Ala.,- and in! 
this letter I am requested to furnish a 
short notice of her life and death, to be' in- 
serted in the' Sigfis. 

She was born in Chester district,- South . 
Carolina, and my father, together' with the 
family having, subsequently moved to 1 
Troup county, Ga., it was there, in the- 
thirteenth year of her age, that God thro' 
his abundant .mciv.y- was pleased to give' 
her a discovery. of her situation as a : poor, 
lps't, and helpless sinner, and also the' 
,e. year "she received an evidence of her* : 
justification before' God through the mer- 
its of Jesus Christ and was enabled to' say 
■as Thomas did, ; My Lord and my God' ! 
In her fourteenth year.she - was united to- 
the Baptist church at Emmaus, Troup 
county, Ga.',' being the first of my father's 
family who was'enabled to- claim a hope in 
Christ " and follow. • Jesus in the way. 
Though I was nearly two years older than 
she was, her knowledge in the written 
word, was much better than mine, and in 
the spiritual import she was far superior,, 
.for I was at time "without God and ; 
without hope in the world." It was a ve- 
ry cold day in which she was buried in 
Baptism, but I feel disposed to pass no en- 
comiums on the memory of my departed 

reat grand children, together with his nu- sister, all the praise is due to God alone;, 



he\" motto was, both in life and death, "By 
the grace of God I am what I am." That 
she truly walked in newness of life is evi- 
dent to all who knew her, but she was des- 
tined to wade through much tribulation 
find affliction of soul during the early part 
of her Christian life. The fog and smoke 
arising from the inventions of. man seem- 
ed likely to obscure the rayS of gospeL 
truth and becloud the minds of a large ma- 
jority of the Baptist denomination. At 
this juncture of time in my father's house 
she had none to console her, nor any one 
who was wise unto salvation to give her 
any advice,, and therefore she consulted 

none but God and his word; and by such The Covenant of Grace. L. M 

teaching as this she was settled and groun- God , g covenant stands forever sure> 
ded in the faith, doctrine and practice of Ffom a „ e tQ gge it will endure . ■ 
the Old School Baptists. In the winter of . And so before lhe worl d was made, 
1837 my father moved.' to Macon county,' R edemplion > s p[an wasfixt 3&d lakK 

Ala., here she^Vvas received at a Primitive „,.', , ,.■• ,-,, 

, , , . w . r. ' ,-. '",•/■ I- Before the sun that shines so bright, 

church about eight miles distant, some d if- ' , . ,-,•',, 

r. ... , ■ .'. „. , ..." .,: ... I Or moon and stars that shine by night; 

nculues also arose in this ehureh- during' „ _ ,, . 

..... T , c , •>•: ■ ■ ; t Belore a man was form d or made, 

Which 1 have often seen her consulting the „',.',, « ,, •. 

, , c „ , ., . • n . . .. , Salvation s plan was hxt and laid. . 

oracle ot (jod with her eyes "flowing' in I . • 

tears, yet she was never heard to murmur i His w -isdo«i ran eternal round, 

or speak evil of any person:- she appeared i His love and mercy-had no bound; 

her she was well and that it would afford 
her great consolation to know that Lucin- 
da was happy, to which she replied: Well, 
Ma, I am happy, my soul is now m hea- 
ven. Shortly afterwards her soul and 
spirit took theii* exit from the body. She 
has left a tender husband, and one child 
about IS months old, and a father and mo- 
ther, three brothers and two sisters, with 
other- relatives, and numerous friends to 
mourn her loss. She died June 20, 1S4G, 
aged. 25 years, 5 months, and 28 days. 

• Chambers co., Ala., July 3, 1846. 

willing to admit "(if overpowered in' argu- 
ment) that she might, be wrong' in her 
Views, but if so, she said it was for the 
Want of a better understanding of the word 
of God. She was taken with a bad cough 
and sore throat and, in April last, she was 
prostrated on her dying bed. I visited her 
about three weeks before her death and 
she then told me that she was fully per- 
suaded her time in this life had nearly ex- 
pired, but said she felt thankful to God 
that she had no fears of death. She told 
me that she had heard me preach on the 
fifth Sunday in March about the hidden 
manna, Rev. ii. 17, and that she felt that 
God had applied it to her poor soul and 
she hoped shortly to take an everlasting 
feast with Jesus her Priest and King. My 
father writes that on the night before her 
death she gave thetamilyand friends who 
conversed with her, entire satisfaction as 
to her acceptance with God, and about*. 
three hours before her death she inquired 
after my mother's health: my mother" told 

His justice too was satisfied, ■" 

When Christ the Saviour-bled and died. 

The law in covenant found us dead, 

We now are by the Spirit led; 

To faith and hope within the vail, 

As such his promise will not fail. 

To Abraham and his numerous seed, 

The promis'd land he gave indeed; 

So Israel was a chosen race, 

Chosen and saved by sovereign grace} 

Israel by faith must live indeed, 

Because they are a chosen seed. 

For Christ the great atonement made, 

The ransom price he fully paid. 

And now he intercedes above, 

And shows himself a God of love; 

And sinners now made heirs of heaven. 

And pardoning grace is feely given. 


Lexington, Mi., 2nd July, 1S2CL 
Bear Editors: Please give the follow- 
ing a kw insertions in your paper. 

The Primitive Baptist Association will 


primitive Baptist. 

hold its ninth annual meeting with the 
Lewis's Creek church, Carroll county, 
Mi., commencing on Saturday before the 
third Sabbath in Sept. 1S4G. 0. S. Bap- 
tists are especially invited to meet with us. 
I remain with great respect your obedi- 
ent servant. 



roR tiIe primitive bap'tisti 

NoRTk Carolina. C.B.Hassell, Williamstoi, 
R. M.G. Moore, German/on. W. w.Mizell,/ J /y- 
tttouth. Benji Bynum, Nnhunta Depot, H.\ve- 
t-n,Averasboro' . Burwell Temple, Raleigh. Thos. 
Bagley, Stndllifltld. James H. Sasser, Waynes- 
boro'. L. Bi Bennett) HealMille. Cor's Cana- 
day, Cruvensville William Welch, Abbott's 
Creek, A. B. Bains, Jr. Stanhope. C. T; Saw- 
der, Puwelfs Point. H. W Ukerson, West Point. J; 
"Miller, Milt on Park. Isaac Meekins and Samuel 
Rogers* Columbia.! Wm. M. Rushing, White's 
Stoie. James H.Smith, Wilmington, Jacob Her- 
ring, Goldsboro', S. Tatum. Elizabeth City, Ad- 
am Hooker, Salem Church, Abner Lamb, Cam- 
den C. H, 

South Carolina. Win, S. Shaw, Rock Mills 
W. B. Villard, >Sr. Aiken. M.McGraw, Brown's. 
J. Li Simpson* Wlnrlsbar*?. Ji G. Bowers, Whip- 
pi) Swamp, Wm* Nelson, Camden, G. Mat 
thews, Germanville. .1 C. Lucas, Lexington C, II. 
Amos Hill, Pleasant. View. 

Georgia. John McKen*iey, Forsyth. Thomas 
Amis, Lexington. John M. Field, Macon. John 
W. Turner, Pleasant Hill. VVIIiam Trice and 
William D. Taylor, Thomast&n. Ezra McCrary- 
Warrenton. Prior Lewis, ThorndsiSille, L Las, 
seller* Vernon. Abner Durham, Greenville, Geo. 
Leeves, Milled gevi He. W.J. Parker, Chenuba. .LP. 
El lis, / J i»M»'//e.F. Haggard ,..?///.e>?*. A.M.Thomp- 
son , Fort Valley . D a n i e I O ' N e e 1 , Olive Grove . J o h n 
Way.fle,, Cain*s, R< S. Hamrich, Currollton. D. 
Sm 1th, Cool Spring Moses H. Denman, Marietta 
Jethro Oates, Mulberry Grove, [sham Edwards, 
Marion. Joseph Daniel, Fish's. R. L. Hayne, 
Lebanon. T. w. Dearing, Cotton River. E.Davis, 
Gretn HilL 

Alabama. A.KenVon, BelmOnt. H. Dance an/1 
W. Bizzell, Eutaw. E.Bell, Liberty Bill. J. 
G.Walker, Milton. H< Williams, Havana, J. 
Daniel, Claibornf, E. Daniel, Churc h Hill, I. 
Carpenter, Sr. Clinton, J. McQueen, Lowndtsboxo' . 
Wm.Talley ,Mount Mtrriahi B Upchurch, Bene- 
tola. S, Hamriek. PlanlerSville. James S. Mor- 
gan, Dayton. Rufus Daniel, Jamestan, Joel H. 
Chambless, Loweville. F. Pickett, China Grore, 
John w. Pellum, Franklin, John Harrell, Mis, 
souri. Wm. Thomas, Gainer's Store. E.M.A- 
mos, Midway Allen Moore, Intercourse, John 
Bryan, Sr. Fullersville, Benj. Lloyd, Wetumpka. 
N. N.Barmore, Mill Port, A. Hailey, Pintlala. 
Vincent Williams, Mobile. Young Smith, Eu/au- 
la. T.J. Poster, Bell's Landing. Henry Cason, 
Mon/icello. Henry Petty, Pic/ymsviUp, D. R. 
P. King, PainesviWe, John whitehead, Jr. I'ka- 
sant Mains. M. W. Helms, Bridgeville. Elly 
Bi Turner, Abbevilte, Thomas Townsend, Fork- 

land. Robert Grady, Bluff Part. R. R.ThOmp» 
sou, Centreville, Jaiues F. Watson,. Geneva. 

Tennessee Michael Burkhaher* Jasper, Wrq; 
Croom, Jackson. Solomon Ruth, Wesley. ..Ira Ei 
Douthit, Lynchburg, Geo. Turner, Waverlyl 
Henry Randolph, SiiodysviUe, Pleasant A.Witti 
Russelville, William MeBee, Old Town Creek, 
A. Burroughs, Moore's X Roads. James Shelton; 
Portersvilk' Shadrach Miistain, Lewisburg. Na- 
than S. McDowell, Tazewell, Henry Turner, Fay- 
ettevlile. Isaac Moore, Ripley, Jarries Sailing, 
Ball Run. 

Mississippi. William Huddleston, and Ed^ 
mund Beeman, Thomas/on. Simpson Parks and 
Samuel Canterberry, Lexington. John S. Daniel; 
Cotton Gin Port. Mark Prewett, Aberdeen! 
Wm. Davis, Housfou. C. Nichols, Stump Bridge. 
Wooten Hill, Cooksville, John Davidson,. Car 
rollton. Thomas Mathews, Black Hawk. James" 
Lee, Beatie's Bluff, James T, S. CdCkerhamj 
Grub Springs, James Crawley, Minghonia. Jos. 
Edwards, New Albany, Thomas C. Fiunt, A/c- 
Leod'i. John Halbert, Nashville. Wilson H.tintj 
Stewart's, John Seal lorn. Pleasant Mount. Johri 
¥Jnnard, Daley's >*\ Roads. K. B. StaJlin<*s, /Je- 

Florida. Hartwell Watkins, Manticelio, Lew- 
is Tucker, Cumphellldn. 

Louisiana; Thos Paxloh, Greensboro' . Ja's; 
Pei kins and Needhanrt Coward, Big woods. Lj 
G. McGaughey, Ballieu's Ferry. Benjamin Gar- 
lingt.on, Negreet. 

Arkansas. John Hart, Saline. George v*', 
Rovptx.drkadclphia. C. B. Landers, Union C.Hi 
J, M. C. Robertson, Foster's. John Honea, Ozarki 

Missouri. John P. McDftwelt, Neiv Market/ 

Illinuis. John Alsbury, Lick Creek. 

Indianai wilson Connar, Cohtmbia, 

Ohio. John B. Moses, tiermauton. 

Kentucky. Washngtoh Watts, Cdrrieliilg- 
ville. Levi Lancaster. Canton. Skelton Renfro; 
Cumberland Ford. Tandy James, Sotekrset, Isaac' 
H nrn, Rome. 

Virginia. Rudol phRorer, Berger's Stbrt. 'Wfr.i 
w. West, Wheatley. William Boms, Davis' 
Mills, Jesse Lankford. Bowers's, A- R6rer, Edge- 
hill Thomas Flippen Laurel. Grove. Thomas 
w Walton, Pleasant Gap. Levi Bishop, Sinclair's 

Pennsylvania. Joseph Hughes, Gum Tree.- 

NewYork. Gilbert Beebe, New Vernon. 


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Joseph Huhr.e>, 2 
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A. Strickland, 3> 

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"®otue out of plftr, tug igeoDie." 

Vol. it. 


No. ft 



6 ^ 

J. K. Polk's being elected was' what entk 
tied him to the office of President, and 
[that any creature being horn again was the 
result of the previous choiee 6f the greafi 
I AM. 

8th. I cannot understand how infinite 
justice and holiness, could demand and 
receive satisfaction of Christ, for all the' 
sins of anj creature, and afterwards punish 
that creature eternally in hell. 

9th. I cannot understand how a Chris- 
tian can say, that Gotl almost makes a 

iaretoell, 'Tennessee, 

May 26th, 1846? 

D*ear Brethren: I will send you 
Some scraps and thoughts that 1 cannot 
ele'tfrly understand. 

l'st. I cannot Understand how a plan, 
Scheme, or ptt'rpose, can be called all-wise, 

Hhat may he thwarted, frustrated, or nulfi- : Christian of any, and because the creature 
fied, by an inferior power and Wisdom. j refuses, or rebels', the Spirit takes its ever- 

2nd.- I cannot sec any thing like omni- j lasting flight, and the soul sinks to' hell: 
pOtence, in that power which may be except that Christian so' saying had experi- 
ehecked or overcome. | ehced every part Of it. 

# -3rd. I (fan-not understand the' nature of; l ; 0trr. I cannot understand the doctrine 
a cove'nafit,- .that has in it no certain and that says, "If you refuse and rebel you will' 
definite stipulation. j be lost, but if you yield and obey you will 

• 4th 1 . f cannot understand hoW a price fee Saved ", in any other way than that the 
can be paid, and a purchase made, except- creature is neither in a state of condemna- 
i'ng something definite is given for the. fion, nor justification, and that his condem- 
pi ice, and obtained by the purchase: nation depends upon his refusal, and his 

5th. I cannot understand hoW a Child f salvation upon his obedience, 
being bom makes it a child, nOr how g\ nth. I- cannot understand how grace' 
man feeling like he is an heir, ot believ- • reigns, arid yet loses its subjects". 
nig' he is an heir, of receiving" a part, or j 12th. I cannot understand how any re- 
tire' whole of an inheritance makes him an generated soul, can believe that the Lord 
heir! j ever failed to save any that he undertook to- 

6t'h. I cannot understand how it' is pos- save; except he' believes lie himself was" 
siblet'hat there Can he an inheritance with- 1 more yielding and obedient, Or better by 

out an heir, or heirs 

7th. I cannot understand how James K. 
Polk being President, elected him; nor 
how a soul being regenerated, makes it to 
be one of the elect; for I really thought 

nature than any that are lost. 

r3th'. I do rtbt know why Christians do' 
not s'ee atf infinite difference, between a 
call' of conscience, or of parents, or the' 
ministry, and the call of the Spirit of Gdd^ 



14th. 1 do not know what is the reason 
that professors believe that a creature can, 
by his opposition to God, slop God's work 
on his soul, when he cannot stop the wind 
(a creature of God) from blowing where it 
listetb, nor its progress in the world; nei- 
ther can he any more carry on the <work 
of God than he can cause the wind to blow 
when and where he pleases, or carry on 
its progress in the world in a manner to 
please his own fancy. 

1 5th. I cannot see the reason why 
Christians do not know that Christ did not 
stay the sword of justice for any that are 
lost, longer than their natural life, and that 
he did not stay it eternally for every one 
that is saved; for as the sword of justioe 
never was, nor never will be bathed in the 
blood of the redeemed, it is incontestible 
evidence, that it is eternally stayed for 
them and is satisfied in the blood of their 
Redeemer, and on the other hand it is in- 
controvertible, that it was not stayed for 
the finally impenitent longer than their 
natural life, and that it had not received 
satisfaction in the blood of Christ. 

16th. If any creature is reconciled to 
God by the death of his Son, I cannot see 
any need for any other mode or means of 
reconciliation. God in Christ is all the 
way I know. Neither can I see how it is 
possible for any other mode, or means, to 
effect reconciliation, for there is no neces- 
sity for reconciling, the reconciled, nei- 
ther can such a thing be performed. 

17ih. If Christ by his death destroyed 
him that had the power of death, I cannot 
understand how it is possible for him that 
is destroyed, to destroy the redeemed of 
the Lord. 

18th. I cannot tell why professors hate 
the doctrine of election, except it is be- 
cause they do not believe that they have 
an evidence that they are one of the elect. 

19th. As a regenerated soul is a new 
creature, and old things have passed away 
and all things have become new, I cannot 
tell why the professor holds the old prac- 
tices, or doctrine, or belief, he formerly 
held; and as the disciples were warned to 
beware of the leaven (doctrine) of the 

Pharisees, and as we are -told to purge OCT* 
the old leaven that it may be a new lump; 
I cannot tell why professors love and con* 
tend for the same old leaven (doctrine) 
, and do not beware of it, excepting it is be- 
j cause they are still the old lump, instead 
of the new creature, old things remaining, 
instead of passing away, no new lump, nor 
new creature appearing. 

20th. When 1 hear a preacher preach- 
and contend for, and against, the same doc- 
trine and principles that the wicked non- 
professing world generally does, how am 
I to tell which is the Christian? If it is 
said, because the preacher is a professor — : 
profession don't make a man a Christian. 
If it is said, because he is more moral — 
neither does rrrorality make him one, and 
besides there are many non-professors who 1 
are moral. 

2lst. Though I am opposed to dram 
drinking as a beverage, yet I cannot see 
the reason for so- much outcry about drin- 
king moderately when the weightier mat- 
ters of the law are neglected, viz: judg- 
ment, mercy, and faith; and when so little 
is said against false and deceptive doctrine,- 
or against flattery, deception, covetous- 
ness, fraud, extortioning, envy, backbiting, 
hatred, variance, pride, vanity, luxury, ne- 
glecting the widow and the orphan, op,- 
pressing the poor and the hireling in his* 
wages, &c. &c. 

22nd. I can see no use for a society to' 
encourage that which is right, nor to- 
check or stop the progress of that which is- 
wrong; excepting there was a society in- 
cluding offences and to stop their progress, 
and also one for every thing which is- 

23rd. I cannot, understand how a prea- 
cher preaches the truth, when the world 
generally says, "That is my preacher, for 
he preaches what I always believed" — ex- 
cept the world always believed the truth. 

24th, I cannot understand foew a crea- 
ture can be a free agent, and at the same- 
time a servant of sin, and taken captive by 
satan at his will. 

25th. If the devil cheats any soul out of 
his interest in heaven, or his title to the 



incorruptible inheritance, I know no rea- 
son why satan shall not get possession of 
those possessions or each creature's part 
(thus cheated) 'out of that inheritance. 

26th. I do not know why professors 
talk of repentance and faith being acts of 
the creature, neither can I tell the reason 
why they cannot understand what the scrip- 
ture says about thenT, except it rs because 
they have' never felt the power of either. 

27th. I cannot understand how any 
man that believes in God, can believe that 
he in wisdom made the world with all ap- 
pertaining to it, without predestinating 
what he would do with it; neither can I 
Understand how a man that believes God 
to be infinite in understanding, eternal, im- 
mutable, and omnipotent, can believe that 
he does not precisely carry on and effect 
his first great design in spite of all opposi- 
tion from men and wicked spiiits. 

28th. I cannot understand what ideas a 
man has of God, if he does not view his 
wise counsel, his handy work, his protect- 
ing arm, his overruling power, and his 
providential care in, and over all events 
and circumstances; and in, and over all 
things from the least to* the greatest. 

29th. I cannot tell why so many pro- 
fessors, try so hard to separate, the fore- 
knowledge of God, ami his divine de- 

30th. I do not know why so many peo- 
ple speak of the government of God, and 
of his holy law and purpose, as though 
they completely understood it, when they 
do not understand the laws of their own 
country, nor the nature, principles, and 
manners of earthly governments. 

31st. I cannot tell why so many profes- 
sors hold precisely the doctrine I did when 
profaning the name of my Lord, excepting 
they are in the same darkness I was. 

32nd. When Christians study, how it is, 
and' why it is, that they are saved, while 
so man)'' equally good by nature, and pro- 
bably much better by practice than they 
were are yet in their sins, I cannot tell 
why they are not convinced of the doc- 
trine' of election, excepting they believe 
their works were meritorious. 

33rd. When people join the church by 
telling her that God began, carried on, 
and completed the work of salvation, and 
their works, duty, or obedience had noth- 
ing to with it, but that it was solely of 
grace' and mercy, I cannot tell why they 
afterwards tell people a different road to 
heaven, and a different way to obtain sal- 

34th. I do not know why professors 
acknowledge a doctrine to be truth accor- 
ding to scripture, and yet say it ought not 
to be preached, excepting it is because 
they have not "received the love of the 

35th. I do not know why professors say 
that if they believed the doctrine of elec- 
tion and predestination, ''they would take 
their fill of sin," or at least "would take 
but little care how they acted;" excepting 
it is because their love of sin has never 
been destroyed in them, nor the love of 
holiness implanted in their souls." 

36th. I can see no essential difference 
between the doctrine the serpent preached 
to Eve, and the doctrine of many in this 
day. The one said, "ye shall not surely 
die;" the other, "ye are not dead." 

37th. I do not understand what is a 
"non-essential in religion," for if God has 
not cammauded it, it should not be at- 
tempted; but if he has commanded any 
thing, it is not non-essential, but should be 
folio wecf. 

38th. I do not know why Christians do 
rrof see that had it not been for the decree 
of God concerning them, and his election 
of them, that they never would have cho- 
sen him but would have sunk to hell with- 
out a remedy — the remedy (so to speak) 
being provided in the decree of election. 

39th. I cannot tell what people mean by 
One life quickening the soul and another 
life saving it. I know of but one efficient 
life — Christ our life — eternal life. 

40th. I do not know why churches li- 
cense a man to preach that they do not 
wish to hear, nor why they set one for- 
ward for ordination, whom they would 
not (being destitute) be willing to receive 
as their pastor. 



41st. I do not know why preachers so 
Seldom quote the following, "Having food 
and raiment therewith be content;" ex- 
cept they having food and raiment want 
more than a kind God has given them, or 
because they are not content with the rule 
laid down in scripture, nor the divine dis- 
pensations of the providence of God. 

Lastly. I Understand hut little, I know 
but little, but I sometimes hope God has 
taught me to know, how little I do know, 
and that without divine teaching I should 
know nothing as- it should be known; nor 
do nothing as it should be done, nor say 
nothing as it should be said. It may be 
that my brethren know or can understand 
what I cannot. If they do, they will please 
write in answer to these. Farewell. 

a: & Mcdowell. 


Cotton Gin Port, Mississippi, > 
July 8th, 184 &. $ 
Dear Editors: Please give the within 
Circular Letter a place in your paper. 
Yours in respect. 



Of the Buttahatcha Association, 1844 
To the churches composing the Buttahat- 
cha Association-,- Greeting! 

Beloved Brethren: According to our 
forms and custom heretofore, you have a 
right to expect from me a Circular Ad- 
dress, on some religious subject; and as 
such, I call your attention to the union that 
exists between Christ and the church. In 
shewing this union we will take a view of 
the godhead, and to End this glorious Re- 
deemer we must eaSI your attention to the 
scriptures of eternal truth. 

The existence of a God ismanifesled by 
the light of nature and good reason, and in 
making this declaration we do n-o more 
than the apostle has given us authority. In 
Rom. 1st chapter, 20th verse, it is said: 
For the invisible things of him from the 
creation of the world, are clearly seen; be- 

ing understood by the things that are' rfraoV 
even his eternal power arid godhead, su> 
that they are without excuse. In the 1st 
chapter and 1st verse of the book of Gene- 
sis it is said: In the beginning God created 
the heavens and the earth. Here the? 
work of creation is assigned unto him, 
which implies eternal and almighty powers 
To create heaven and earth with all the 
things which they contain, implies a pre- 
vious existence, of the 1 eternity of God 
To create at all, implies almighty power. 
in Kxodus, 3rd chapter. 14th verse, God* 
in speaking to Moses says: I am that I am.. 
Thus shall thou say unto the children of 
Israel, I am hath sent me unto you. This 
name which God applies to himself, im- 
plies s If- existence, independence, un* 
changeableness, eternal. 

Dear brethren, we will now take a view 
of the equality of the Son with the Father* 
As a proof of the divinity of Christ, we 
shall first shew that the name of God is- 
given by the Holy Ghost to the Lord Je- 
sus Christ. John, 1st chapter, 1st verse? 
In the beginning was the word, and the 
word was with God, and the word was* 
God. And lo shew who this word was, it 
is said in the 14th verse of the same chap- 
ter: And the word was made flesh and 
dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory f 
the glory as of the only begotten of the 
Father, full of grace and truth. And ir> 
the 1st Timothy, 3rd chapter, 16th verse,, 
the name of God is applied to the Lord Je- 
sus Christ-, And without controversy great 
is the mystery of godliness;. God was mani- 
fest in the flesh. Isaiah, 7lh chapter, 14tb 
verse, which is applied to Christ in this* 
language: Behold a virgin shall be with 
child and shall bring forth a son,, and they 
shall call his name Emanuel, which being 
interpreted is God with us. Hebrews, 1st 
chapter, 6*th verse: And a gate, when' he 
bringeth in the first begotten into the 
world, he saiih, and let all the angels of 
God worship him. Verse 8ih: But unto- 
the Son he saith, thy throne, O God, is for 
ever and ever; a sceptre of righteousness- 

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is the sceptre of thy kingdom. And we 
hear Jesus say : I and my Father are one. 
John, 10th chapter, 30th verse. We 
think the above quotations sufficient to 
prove the divinity of Christ. 

De^r brethren, we shall next shew by 
scripture evidence of the divinity and equa- 
lity of the Holy Ghost, that he is God. 
And in making this attempt we will call 
your minds to the 1st chapterof Luke, and 
25th verse: The Holy Ghost shall come 
upon thee, and the power of the highest 
flhall overshadow thee; therefore also that 
holy thing which shall be born of thee 
shall be called the Son of God. Acts, 5th 
chapter, 34th verse: But Peter said, Ana- 
nias, why hath satan filled thy heart to lie 
to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part 
of the pride of the land? And in the 4th 
verse it is said; Thou hast not lied unto 
men, but unto God. The evidence then is 
clear that the Holy Ghost is here said to 
be God, John, 14th chapter, 26 ih verse; 
But when the Comforter, which is the Ho- 
ly Ghost, whom the Father will send in 
my name, he shall teach you all things and 
bring all things to your remembrance 
whatsoever I have said unto you. Also in 
John, I5ib chapter, 26th verse, we have 
similar language: But when the Comforter 

view under the similitude of a man and 
his wife connected. Brethren, they are 
said to be one flesh, and to prove this, look 
at the 1st chapter of Genesis and 27th 
verse: So God created man in his own im- 
age, in the image of God created he him; 
male and female created he them. And 
God blessed them, and God said unto them, 
be fruitful and multiply. Then we see in 
the 5ih chapter of the same book and 2nd 
verse: .Male and female created he them, 
and blessed them, and called their name 
Adam in the day when they were crea- 
ted. So we see the man and his wife are 
one flesh. So when God caused the deep 
sleep to come upon Adam, and he slept, 
God separated the rib from Adam and 
made the woman, she was no less related 
to him than when she was in him; for God 
breathed one breath into them when they 
both existed in one body. So we see when 
she was taken out of man, it was just Ad- 
am multiplied, the means through which 
God intended to people the world. And 
when we see the -offspring of Adam, we 
just see Adam multiplied. And the great 
love that Adam had for his wife when she 
transgressed the law by taking the fruit 
that God commanded them not to do, he 
partakes at her hand and did eat also, and 

is come, whom { will send unto you from ! fell under the curse, and his sin became 
the Father, even the spirit of truth which J our sin. So by the disobedience of one 
proceedeth from the Father, he shalljesti- j ma n sin entered in the world and death by 
fy of me. So we will add one more pass- j sin, so death hath passed on all men, for all 
age of scripture and think that ought to be j have sinned. This ought to be enough to 
enough for every person who wishes to j this point. 

know the truth. Here it is: 1st John, 5th 

So, brethren, when we take into eonsid- 

chapter, 7th verse: For there are three that eration the golden cord of God's great love 
bare record in heaven, the Father, the that he had for us, and thereby united us 

Word, and the Holy Ghost, and these 
three are one. 

We will now take into consideration the 
union of Christ and the church. Bringing 
in this union in a clear light, we will call 
your attention to Ephesians, 5th chapter, 
23rd verse: For the husband is the head of 
the wife, even as Christ is the head of the 
church, and he is the Saviour of the body. 
Hgre Christ aBd the church are brought to 

to Christ and called us his bride; when we 
view Christ and the church we view them 
as one, for St. Paul in his address to the 
Ephesian church says; For we are mem- 
bers of his body, of his flesh, and of his 
bones. 5th chapter, 30th verse. Also in 
Isaiah, 54lh chapter, 5lh verse: For thy 
maker is thine husband, the Lord of hosts 
is his name; and thy redeemer the holy one 
of Israel, the God of the whole earth shall 

3 34 


he be railed . So we see the very maker 
of this glorious being the church, is said to 
he the God of the earth; then he claims 
her by crea'ion and redemption, and call* 
hims-If her husband. And in Ephesian-', 
5th chapter, 9th verse: For no man ever 
yet hated his own flesh, but nourishe'h and 
eherishelh it, even as the Lord the church 
So we see when Adam's bride had fallen in 
sin by transgressing the law, ihat he yei 
loved her because she was his flesh; even 
so when the bride of Christ had fallen in 
sin by the transgression of one mm, even 
Adam, thai it was the very flesh aud bone 
of Christ, even the church. And Go I in 
his wisdom and by his all seeing eye, be- 
held her helpless slate and condition thai 
she was lost in by reason of sin. and ihai 
she was unable of herself lo exiricate her- 
self from the state in which she had gone 
into; therefore. God had fixed the glorious 
plan of salvation jn the trinity of that 
ihree-one God bt fore the foundation of the 
world, and agreeably lo ihe foreknowledge 
and eternal counsel of God, thai he propo and covenanted wiih t he Son, (hat he 
would send the darling of his bosom inio 
this world to die for her. 

And in showing of thjs covenant, we will 
take a small travel in the scriptures and 
»hew wjio this covenant, was made vvjih. 
Psalms, S9ih chapter, 3rd veise: I have 
made a covenant with my chosen — which 
chosen was his Sop,. Zechariah, 9ih (Snap 
ter, lllh verse: As for thee also by the 
blood of thy covenant 1 have sent fufih thy 
prisoners out of the pit wherein is no wa 
ter. 2nd Samuel, 23rd chapter. 5th verse: 
Although my house be not so wiih God, 
yet he hath made with me an everlasting 
covenant, ordered in all things and sure. 
And now to prove the eternal existence o! 
this covenant, Paul in Hebrews said: Now 
the God of peace th it brought again from 
the dead our Lotd Jesus, that great shep- 
herd of the sheep, through ihe blood of the 
everlasting covenant. Here in the last 
quoted text it is cleaily proven, that the 
blood of that covenent is as old as God 

himself; and we are hound to believe that 
this same blood is the price of our redemp- 
tion; for when Paul had called all the eU 
ders together, he charged them to take 
heed therefore unio yourselves, and to all 
ihe flock over which the Holy Ghost hath 
made von overseers, to feed the church of 
God which he hath purchased with hi* 
blood Acts', 20th chapter. 28th verse. 
There we see that the church is called the 
purchase ol his blood. Thus when Christ 
viewing hi* precious bride ten thousand 
talents in debi in *in, thai he was made sin 
for her 2nd Corinthj rh«, 5th chapter. 21 st 
vers- : For he hath made him to be sin for 
us who knew no sin, that we might be 
made the righteousness of God in him. 
Ih/n ihe church is the righteousness of 
God in Ch i*t, and no where else, for the 
life she now liy'i s is in Christ, for there was 
grace given her in Christ before the foun» 
elation of the world. 2ml Timothy, 1st 
chapter, 9th vt r*e- W ho hath saved us and 
called us wiih an holy calling, not according 
to our works, but according lo his own pur? 
pose and grace which was given us iq 
Christ Jesus before the world began 

Then we see Christ unped to the church 
and the church to hjm, and God loved her 
in him wiih the same eternal love; and 
now we see that she is united to God in 
Christ, and that God. Christ, and the 
church are one. 'To prove this to be the 
truth, we will refer you to John, 1 7ih chap- 
ter. 23rd verse: I in ihem and thou in me, 
that they may be made perfect in one, and 
that the world mav know that thou hast 
sent me, and h i.-t loved them as thou hast 
loved me. In the next verse we hear him: 
For thou lovest me before the foundation 
of the world. So we see that the godhead 
cannot he complete without the church in 
it. So when they sutler he suffered with 
them, when they rejoice he rejoices with 
'hem. Then he bears them as the vine the 
branches. John, 15th chapter, 5th verse. 
He here compares himself to the vine, and 
them to the branches, the same vine that ye 
are the branches of. So when we see a vine 



planted hy the wise husbandman, it then 
springs up; and when we see the little ten- 
der branches shoot forth, it is the same 
vine, as it was multiplied into many; yet 
the same root bears them all. A beautiful 
figure indeed of Christ and the church, 
Christ being planted in the fruitful soil of 
God's eternal love before the foundation of 
the world, and all his elect church in him; 
therefore, as the church is in him, so are 
the branches in the vine. Inasmuch a* the 
vine could not be complete without Ihe 
branches, God gave them one nature that 
they might receive from the same root the 

viewing her in Christ as her head, having 
loved her as his own he loves her to the 
end. And when we receive mercy, it 
must be in a way of justice; for God can 
do nothing unworthy of himself, therefore 
as justice must be satisfied and God look- 
ing down from heaven to see if there were 
any thal'done good, and there were none. 
Having viewed Jesus from all eternity as 
the great covenant head, and he viewing 
his bride in him, and her in sin, and the 
law not satisfied, it now calls on her hus- 
band for full payment, and nothing could 
satisfy its demands but life, seeing the 

same sap, that they might have one life. So j penalty of the law is death. 

that when we view Christ, we view the Now in the great council of heaven we 

church right in him. See Colossians, 2nd hear him saying by the mouth of the pro- 

chapt. 9th and 10th verses: For in him, 
that is in Christ, dwelleth all the fullness 
of the godhead bodily; and ye are com 
plete in him, which is the head of all prin- 
cipality and power. 

So, brethren, for a further proof of this 
glorious union, man and wife by their mar- 
riage, they become as one flesh in union. 
So Christ and the church are one spirit. 
1st Cor. 6th chapt. I 7th verse: but he that 
is joined unto the Lord is one spirit. 
Then, brethren, as one spirit in both the 
head and the members in the natural body, 
so the one spirit of God dwells in Christ 

pbet Zechariah, 6th chapt. 13th verse: 
Anil the counsel of peace shall be between 
them both. And we hear it spoken by the 
mouth of the apostle Peter, in Acts, 2nd 
chipt. 23rd verse: Him being delivered 
by the determinate counsel and foreknow- 
ledge of God, ye have taken and by wick- 
ed hands have crucified and slain. Also 
in John, 10th chapt. 10th ver^e: I am 
come that they might have life, and that 
they may have it more abundantly. And 
viewing her under the curse of the law, he 
redeems her from under the curse of the 
law by being made a curse for her. Gala- 
and the church. So if any man have not j tians, 3rd chapt 13th verse: Christ hath 
the spirit of Christ, he is none of his. Ho- j redeemed us from the curse of the law, ue- 
mans, 8lh chapt. 9th verse: Then being ! i»g made a curse for us; for it \a written, 
chosen in Christ, as it was revealed to I cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree. 
Paul. Eph. 1st chapt. 4th verse: Accor- Also in Isaiah, 63rd chapt. 4th veise: I 
ding as he hath chosen us in him before j have trodden the wine press alone, and of 
the foundation of the world, that we should i tbe people there was none with me; for I 
be holy and without blame before him in i will tread them in mine anger, and trample 
love. So when we see the church, we just j ihem in my fury, and their blood shall be 

see Christ multiplied. So as the vine and 
the branches constitute one vine, so Christ 
and the elect constitute one church; and 
when the great God of all good saw the 
church fallen in sin, and under the curse of 
his righteous law, and justly condemned 
and exposed to eternal death; and she be- 
ing unable of herself to satisfy the just 
claims of the law being a sin; and God 

sprinkled on my garments, and I will stain 
all my raiment; for the day of vengeance 
is in my heart, & the year of my redeemed 
is come. And 52—3: For thus sanh the 
Lord, ye have sold yourselves for nough', 
and ye shall be redeemed without money. 
And the 63rd chapt. 9ih verse: In all their 
affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of 
his presence saved tlaem in his love, anu in 



his pity he redeemed them, and he loved 
them, and carried them all the days of old 
And in the Sth verse he says: For he said, 
surely they are my people, children that 
will not lie. So he was their Saviour 
And in Luke, 1st chapt. 67th verse: And 
his father Zechariah was filled with the 
Holy Ghost, and prophecied — saying in 
the 68th verse: Blessed be the Jj°rd God 
pf Israel, for he hath raised up a horn-qf sal- 
vation for us in the house of his servant 
David. Hebrews, 9th chapt. 1 2th verse- 
Neither by the blood of goats and calves, 
but by his own blood he entered in once 
jnto the holy place, having obtained eter- 
nal redemption for us. 13th: For if the 
blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes 
of an heifer, sprinkling the unclean saneti- 
fieth to the purifyjng of the flesh — 14th 
verse: How much more shall the blood of 
Christ, who through the ethernal spirit of- 
fered himself without spot to God. Purge 
your conscience frqm dead works*, tp serve 
the living God. 

We will here close or remarks on re? 
dernption from the curse of ihp law» having 
cited your minds to the above passages ol 
scripture. We will now look for the spe- 
ciality of redemption, by searching the 
scriptures; for there is no other source to 
which we wish to^go for testimony, belie- 
ving them to be the truth. Revelation, 
5lh chapt. 9th verse: And they sung a 
new song, saying, thou art worthy to take 
the book and to open the seals thereof; for 
thou was); slain and hast redeemed ub to 
God by thy blood, ont of every kindred, 
and tongue, and people, and nation. JOtli 
verse: And has made us unto our God 
kings and priest*, and we sha|l reign on 
the earth.' 16th chapt. 4th verse: These 
are they which were not defiled wjth wo 
men, for they are virgins; these are they 
which follow the Lamb whithersoever be 
goeth; these were redeemed from among 
men, being the first fruits unto God and to 
the Lamb. Sth verse; And in their mouth 
was found no guile, for they are without 
fault before the- throne of Cod. Ais«j we 

hear Paul in speaking; to Titus in the 2nd 
chapt. 14th verse saying: Who gave him- 
self for us, that he might redeem us from 
all iniquity, and purify unto himself a pe- 
culiar people zealous of good works. Isai? 
ah, 51st chapt. llth verse: Therefore the 
redeemed of the Lord shall return and 
come with singing unto Zion. and everlasr 
ting joy shall be upon their heads; they 
shall obtain gladness and joy, and sorrow 
and mousing shall fire away. 

Therefore, we see God has redeemed his 
elect church, which he claims to be his 
flesh, viewing Jesus to be the object of 
God's eternal love; and we by him, which 
gives him the right of redemption. Then 
we may safely conclude that the union be- 
tween Chrjst and his people is such, that 
they as members of his body, of his flesh, 
and of his boness were in hjm in his birth, 
that thsy might inherit eternal glory. We 
see Christ prepared and qualified to ac? 
complish the work that was before him, by 
taking on himself a body of flesh, and 
made a little lower than the angels for the 
suffering of death, the death of the cross, 
which was due us here. We see Jesus 
nailed to the tree, not that it was his wil, 
lingness, but the approbation of divine jus? 
tice; for we hear him say, Father if it be, 
possible let this oqp pass. Inasmuch as the 
church was jn Jesus, when he suffered they 
suffered in him; for when his blood was 
shed the whole church was then shrouded 
in blood Isaiah, 53rd chapt, lQth verse] 
Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise hiiii, he 
hath put him to grief; when thou shalt 
make his soul an offering for sin he shall 
see his sped, he shall prolong his days, and 
the pleasure of the Lo rt l shall prosper in 
his hand. Verge llth: He shall see the 
travel of hjs soul and shall be saljsfied; by 
his knowledge shall my righteous servant 
justify many, for he sliaijf bear their iniqtiK 
ties. Then he was delivered for our offen- 
ces, and was crucified, and the third mor- 
ning, the appointed day, rose for our jus- 
tification, and is gone to prepare a place 
■for us. and has said he will come again and 



take us lo himself. Then Ihis moital will 
put on immortality, and then we can say, 
O death, where is thy sting? When God 
will call home all his dear bride, and re- 
ceive her to himself as a chaste virgin, hav- 
ing neither spot nor wrinkle. 

I shall now come to a close hy request 
ing all my brethren to pray for me, that 
God may direct me whilst in this unfriend- 
ly world; that I may meet you all in that 
great Association, where God will be our 
great Moderator. Farewell', 




TO EDITORS pfti :\n i ivn: BAPTI»1 

Gum Neck, Tyrrell county N. C ) 
July 24, Ig-t6 \ 

Dear Brethren in Christ, preserv- 
ed and called: Grace, mercy, and truth be 
URl'o you, and peace from God the Father 
and from our Lord Jesus Christ. 

Dear brethren, I have a long lime been 
thinking to write to yog, but my courage so 
oft lias failed me when remembeting my 
uoworthjness. But the time has arrived 
that I am rather constrained by the un 
searchable love of I hristio take my pen in 
Jiand, whereby I do send greeting unto 

Brethren, beloved of the Lord, my im- 
perfection will not admit me 10 write any 
thing worthy of publication, bgi you can 
do wjih this as you think proper 1 am 
now in tolerable good health, and I believe 
that it is a blessing bestowed upon me from 
above, for which I hope thai I am humbly 
and truly thankful to him a bo is the giver 
ofeyerygood and perfect gift Though 
we do have to encounter wiih many trials, 
and great ones too; for verily, dear breth- 
ren, our enemies are strong and many, 
wbo draw the sword and spear, and are 
often shooting with their bows, and hack- 
ing at our he ids, or stabbing at oui hearts 
jjut all in vain so long as our king doth 

reign triumphant in the castle, and fortifies 
the city of our God. 

Yes, brethren, they ride rough shod over 
us as they think, and make the Bible their 
text book, which causeth the people to 
give audience; and then by telling great 
tales, using many theological words which 
they nor their hearers do understand, as by 
rushing violently against the bosses of Je- 
hovah's buckler, they by so doing gain the 
whole army of the enemies of God, and 
equip them with the noble uniform of hu^ 
man skill and worldly wisdom, and set 
themselyes in battle arrav against the saints 
of the God of terrors, who is the God of 

Phis is the state of things in this part of 
our Lord's vineyard at this lime, but bless- 
d be ihe Lord our God who givelh us the 
victoty. We do not fear those that are 
only able to kill the flesh, but are not able 
io destroy the soul, I do not feel able to 
spiritualize the word of God to part of 
such, but 1 do wish those brethren who are 
able would not be backward in helping us 
here in ibis low ground of sorrow, where 
there ape many prowling beasts endeavor- 
ing to devour the little flock of Christ. 
Therefore, pray for us, dear brethren,, and 
come unto us as often as }oju can; for the 
linle lambs get very hungry between 
feeds. Jt is i heir desire to feed on nour- 
ishment, desiring milk, not being able to 
bear meat. So nothing more at present. 

Ye wanderers through this dreary land, 

In search of Canaan'a ahorej 
Gird on your shield, your sword ifl hand, 

Prepare to meet your foes. 
For saian doth his banner raise, 

And hellish monsters come; 
They shoot with one infernal blaze, 

I hough different are their drum. 

Now pilgrims in this wilderness, 

To danger are exposed; 
While devils clad in warlike dress, 

D >lh to the saints disclose. 
Now fiery serpents doth appear, 

And dragons do roar too; 
Which often makes the pilgrims fear ? 

They never shall get through, 



But when our Captain doth appear, 

And doth his banner wave; 
We're undismay'd and cannot fear, 

Then songs of gladness raise. 
Then when our King in martial dress, 

His little flock doth arm; 
They fig' 11 with vigor for that grace, 

Which keeps I hem safe from harm. 

Then, brethren, let us never fear, 

What man to us can do; 
They only can afflict us her°, 

With words and actions too. 
Ye humble followers of the Lord, 

Who wait upon his word; 
Let's bow submissive to the rod. 

Of our incarnate God. B II. H. 


Pittsylvania county, Va. ) 
J/i/y 4th. 1846. \ 

Beloved Brethren and Sisters in 
Christ Jesus; May grace peace and truth 
abound with you through our Lord Jesus 
Christ; for he is the author ami finisher of 
the Christian faith, or the faiih of all the 
elect; which are all the Christians that 
have been, or are now, or ever shall be. 
For you, brethren, know that Jesus said: 
Neither pray I for these alone — that is, he 
(Jesus) says, he prays for them also, which 
may or will believe through their word, 
or through the words of the apostles. 

O, brethren, this is what the free wili- 
er.*, or free agent fellows say; and this is as 
near the truth' as the devil their master 
wants them to come, for Jesus never said 
so. But see the 17th ch of John, 20th 
verse: Jesus says, neiiher pray I for them 
(that is, for the apostles) alone, but for 
them also that (may, no, bieihren, there 
is no may here; but Jesus said, far them 
also that) shall believe on me through their 
or the apostles' word. Now, brethren, 
we will notice the word also. You know 
Jesus says, he prays also; that is, Jesus 
prays for them that shall believe just like 
he did, for them that did believe. Hence 
he will save all he will save, the same way ; 
and that way is agreeably to his Father's 
will, and the will of the Father is, that of 
all which he gave to his Son, he (his Son) 

should lose nothing, but should raise it up 
again at the Ia4 day. See 6th ch. of John, 
9th verse. 

Now we will notice again the Father's 
will is, that his Son (or Christ) should 
raise up ail that he (the Father) gave him 
(his Son,; and none were to be lost. So 
you, fallers from grace are wrang. But 
who did he (God) give to his Son? Why 
he gave him all who shall believe through 
their word; that is, all that shall believe 
through the words of God's ministers — not 
seminary or college preachers, no, but 
through the word of God's apostles and 
ministers And it does not depend on if 
he ran, or if you do; no, it does not; but 
all that shall b°lieve through their word, 
and not as our modern Ishmaeliles say, if 
you will, or please, or run, or do, or get ii> 
the aliar or straw pen, or to an anxious 
seat. No, brethren, it is not of him that 
willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of 
God that sheweth mercy . Hence he will 
have metcy on them that shall believe 
through their word. 

But, say some, every body can believe 
if they will. yes, say I, if they will; 
but you know, brethren, they (the world) 
will not believe, because they are carnally 
minded; and -you also know, that the car- 
nal mind is enmity to God, not subject to 
his law, neither indeed can be. So they 
must be made subject to the will of God, 
and that must be done by the spirit of God. 
See 7lh ch. of Uomans, 7th verse. Again, 
see 14th ch of John, 17th vertex Even the 
spirit of truth whom the world cannot re- 
ceive. Here, brethren, we hear Christ 
say the world cannot receive the spirit of 
truih; but we hear our reformed infidels 
say, all can receive the spirit of truth, and 
so disgrace God and please the devil by 
contradicting Christ; for Christ says, the 
world cannot receive the spirit of truth; 
but our religious infidels say, all can re- 
ceive it. So you, my friends, may judge 
who tells the truth, Christ or those reli- 
gionists or modern infidels. 

Now, brethren, I wish to let you and 



(he Roanoke Association know that one of 
their preachers has passed about here seve- 
ral years by telling the people he was not a 
missionary and so deceived some. But I 
knew he was of the sneak family all the 
time, and for that cause I forbid his prea 
ching at the Union meeting house. Now, 
Mr. Pluiikettj you know this is so. Yes, 
breihren, his name is William II. Plun- 
kett. Now, Mr. P , von know I sup- 
pose when you had that great protracted 
meeting at Union, and it is said that you 
were electioneering at the same time for 
the care of that church. This all happen- 
ed before I was a member of that church, 
but I lived or breathed near there then; 
and what I say about the matter is the 
truth, and if Mr. P. does deny any oi it, 
and will let me know he wants me to prove 
it, I will try to do so and think I can do it 
to his dissatisfaction. 

But I will say to yon, Mr. P., in a plain 
and friendly way, that you know one day 
of your meeting above named was on Sat- 
urday of their church meeting in August. 
IS 12. Brother Adams was not there, you 
acted as Moderator, and in the time of the 
church's sitting the missionary subject was 
talked about; then and there you denied 
being a missionary. Some seemed to be- 
lieve you, and I suppose some did, as they 
have since acknowledged you had deceived 
them; but I was not deceived in you, Mr, 
P., for I never believed you was sound in 
the faith of God's elect, therefore I could 
not believe you told the truth when you 
s,*id you was no missionary, Mr. P. And 
some of your own church say you deceived 
them, since they have seen the Minutes of 
the General Association held in Lynch- 
burg in IS 15. 

Now, my friends and brethren, we have 
heard from Mr. P. for several years back, 
and we always hear he is no missionary; 
whether or not, he says he is a missionary 
now. I cannot tell, but I should like to 
know where he and all the go-betweeners 
have got to, since the Roanoke has become 
a missionary body. But, brethren, I reck- 

on it does depend pretty much on the com- 
pany they are in. for that has been the 
point a long time on which their principles 

But we will now notice the Minutes of 
the General Association of 1845, and see 
where he is now. See Minutes, I3ih page. 
Here we see Mr. P. has g<>t a seat in the 
General Association, and he (Mr. P.) paid 
into their funds $43 24. Now, my 
friends, you who have said Mr, P. is no 
missionary, what do you say now? Why 
I think he is a red boned missionary — yes, 
and so do I, and so 1 have all this time al- 
though he denied. See 20th page, there 
we see Mr. P. has had the honor of being 
appointed on a committee for to do busi- 
ness for this missionary body. Hence I 
think he nor his friends will not deny his 
being a missionary now; no, I hope they 
will not if they continue to be his friends, 
for such a lie as that would make an)' thing 
but the devil blush. But there is only one 
position which Mr. P, can take to prove he 
is not a missionary, and that is my friends 
he may say he has never been hired and 
sent out to preach by that body, so no mis- 
sionary. But I will say to Mr. P., if that 
is what makes a missionary you nor I never 
will be a missionary; for I think your 
preaching is woi th so little to that respecta- 
ble body, they never will hire you. But 
if they should get so bad off for preachers 
as to hire you, the old proverb would be 
fulfilled — the devil has daggered himself. 

So nothing more, Mr. I\, at present; but 
may the Lord turn you and you shall be 
turned. Do not get mad, Mr. P.; I am 
not mad with you nor any person on earth 
at ibis time; but as ever your friend and 
well wisher. Farewell, 



Stump Bridge, Madison county. Mi. 

July 10M, 1846. 

Dear Friends: 1 feel to he under the 

necessity of publishing some of the acts of 

Doak's Creek church. We were constjtu- 



ted in Ihe fall of 1833, or '34. on predesti- 
narian faith and principles by Elders G 
W, Noland and VVm. Denson. At that 
time all that came in the conslitution refu- 
sed to be constituted on any other faith. 
Some refused to coma in on the faith, they 
said they did not believe that way. Both 
the Elders seemed to believe and contend 
for the faith of the church Elder Denson 
was called to supply the church, which he 
accepted for several years and seemed to 
try to preach and contend for the faith of 
the church. We got along in peace with 
some increase, Some came and wanted to 
join that refused to join before on account 
of the faith and hold the former principles, 
I was surprised that the church, all but 
myself, were ready to receive. I proposed 
that he must not oppose or fight the faith 
of the church as formerly, which was 
agretd to. Some three days meetings and 
protracted meeiings were held, and a con* 
siderable increase in number to the church. 
Some of the members with Elder Denson 
seemed to be mightily up with the mission- 
ary cause, began to try to get it in the 
church, myself and others opposed its com- 
ing in, then difficulties began to arise. 

They wanted to join or liberty to send 
delegates to the Convention. The vole 
was taken, 13 male members present, the 
question put for them opposed lo rise first; 
7 out of 13 rise, no sister rises. Then put 
dif <he:T) in lavor to rise — 6 male rise, give 
a sign, lo the sisters, some of them rise — 
the first time any sister voted in Doak's 
Creek church, only in receiving and ex- 
cluding members, and in a few cases in 
calling a supply and sending delegates to 
the Association, so fetched it in that way, 
Sijl| they say it should not affect fellow- 
ship. Some appeared much dissatisfied, 
\fter some time it was voted out for the 
peace of the church, which is certain, for 
part of the church seemed much hurt at 
the way it came in, or its coming in at all. 
It was voted out on that account, and prom- 
ised to keep it out, but not minuted. 

About this time secret talks of a few 

members off to themselves, Rev'd Denson 
taking a very active part in these conferen- 
ces before and after preaching, then strange 
notions and resolutions brought in publio 
conferences, such as no church or church 
book can show. I think the acts of meet- 
ing appear satisfactory. After a few meet- 
ings the Rev'd Denson not satisfied it must 
be taken up and tried again, The friends 
of the institutions of the day are most in 
number, and carry their stiange order with 
much ambition and party spirit. At one 
time after a great many troublesome diffi- 
culties, a committee came to try to settle 
them, but failed. At the request of Rev'd 
Denson and others, for each to acknow- 
ledge their faults and live in peace, several 
of them acknowledged some of their faults. 
Likely some told all, It seemed the most 
hard feelings had arisen from the way the 
missionary question had been agitated op 
carried on in the church. I then proposed 
to keep the missionary question out of the 
church. The Rev'd Denson made an 
amendment to the proposition, by saying 
to keep it out on the church meeting days, 
Not opposed by a.ny. 

After several acknowledgments and pro- 
positions, all appeared to be in love and 
iiood feelings. Such a lime I have not seen 
before or since at the church. Eaph eye 
appeared wet with the tear of sympathy or 
love. The right hand of fellowship was 
given or passed generally, as some thought, 
to sanction the acts of the meeting, forgive 
the past, and for the future to try to take 
the scriptures for our guide and live in 
peace The acts of this meeting seemed to 
be short lived, not long remembered, In 
a short time the missionary question was 
urged and preached with warmth by the 
Rev'd Denson and others. The doctrine 
so changed, they seemed to find the scrip* 
lures are not translated right. If they had 
said the scriptures did not sanction their 
institutions, I would have believed as 
soon. The preaching seemed to try to 
condemn the faith the church was constitu- 
ted on. Some of the members began to 



ftrgtie the same. Some have paid they 
never believed in the faith of I he church, 
but thought they would be Strong enough 
to change it after awhile. Preachers be- 
gan lo come to the protected meetings, as 
if their object was to establish the mission- 
ary cause attd a general atonement It 
has been preached by several that the nat- 
ural man could come to Christ) and the 
church receive it in contradiction to the 

Several of the members that could not 
receive the doctrines of men as they thought 
so many promises made and broke by the 
Church, took letters in fellowship when It 
Was for the want of fellowship they left the 
church. Still the members generally, 
though some of them in constitution, say 
Ihey have not changed but believe as they 
Formerly did, although lhefy have changed 

Richards, Robert Shipp; Jerusalem, S. J. 
Denson. The trial commenced* the infor 
mer told them the case was not minuted as 
he told it. I asked them to Correct it, I 
had more charges if they would hear them. 
The committe and church actually refused 
to conect or hear any more) but proceeded 
as they stood. 1 asked the flev'd Wm. 
Denson if the church had not agreed 1.. 
keep the missionary question out of t i>e 
church; He said, as myself and several 
others believe, that they had for the peace 
of the church. S. J. Denson then said, 
nothing was actionable at common latv but 
what was reduced to writing, I told him 
it was at common law and equity too. 1 
could have proved the same by others that 
were in the house at the time, but thought 
it was sufficiently proved, though 1 suppose 
it is desired, since it seems the church sup- 

the articles of faith. 1 opposed the change I pose as these promises were not minuted 

of the faith and the doctrines that were 
preached and advocated by the members. 
I refused to commune with the church. 1 
have told ihem 1 could not feel like I was 
at home when at the church, and 1 had no 
fellowship for their conduct. 

One day myself and one of the members 
in company, after same talk about the 
church he asked me if I did not think 1 
was lying to the church in not communing 
with her. I said, not worse than the 
church was lj ing to me in not keeping her 
promises, in not keeping the missionary 
question out and other promises. He said 
that was very rough. I made all the apol- 
ogy that I thought necessary. I suppose 
he thought not, as they were a church. 
He reported me to the church, 1 appeared 
and told them 1 said it, and how it was in 
answer to the question asked me. Also, 
I had more charges if they would hear 
them. They denied sueh promises, kept 
it on hand several meetings, sent a commit- 
te to labor with me; some of them denied 
that they had broke their promises. They 
reported no satisfaction, the church sent 
for a committee to try the case. They ap- 
peared, from Sharon, Wm. Joiner, James 

nothing. There have been other acts of 
considerable importance not minuted in 
the book; others minuted and not regarded* 
I he committee reported about to this 
amount; Brother Coleman Nichols has en- 
tirely failed to make proof in his attempt 
to slander the church in saying the church 
had lied and departed from former practi- 
ces. Wm. Denson, Chairman. 

The church very readily received the 
report. I appealed to the Mount Pisgah 
Association to try to get another commit- 
tee, but cotdd not attend on account of 
sickness in my family. At the Associa- 
tion the same S. J. Denson and Wm. Den- 
son were appointed on the committee. 
Wm. Denson it is said was not one of the 
committee at Doak's Creek church. He 
signed their proceedings as Chairman in 
the case that they investigated before now; 
whether it was generally known by the As- 
sociation or not, 1 don't yet know, but it is 
certain it was known by the delegates 
from Sharon, Jerusalem, Pisgah, and 
Doak's Creek. The case was disappointed 
or thrown out, and agreeable to S. J. Den- 
son's rule not actionable: for the committee 
were told that it was not written or minuted 



right They may have thought they [emigrated with his family to the Stafe of 

would put a stop to the case. 

I would say to (hose that Want to know 
concerning these promises of the churchy 
to calf on those that took letters from the 
phurch on account of the change of doe- 

Alabama, where he resided until his death. 
In recording his death it is but just to 
his memory to speak of the many excellent 
virtues of this truly good man. He em- 
braced the Christian religion at the early 

frine and their failing to keep their promi- age of seventeen, and attached himself to' 

ses. f have proposed, as there appears to 
he a difference in cur hearing the evidence, 
also disappointed at the Association, to 
leave the case to some steady citizens, 

the Baptist church of Christ, whose cause 
was his chief delight. He was licensed to 
pieachthe gospel. Often has the writer 
heaid him pointing the sinner to the Lamb' 

members of the church, for them to heart of God in such touching strains that the 
the evidence and say who has been slander- j most obdmate was want to weep. In his 
ed. Not acceded to. Some may say, do speaking from the pulpit, he was mild and 
you want fhefr fellowship, I say noy but courteous, but not shrinking to decfate 
want 'o get the infamous charge of slander j tl e counsel of God. In his theme he 
on them thai should bear it. The meeting seemed to melt at l he touching incidents 
house seems to be open for all oihers^ that of 'lie cross of Christ, a subject on which he 
are common in the country, but the pre- delighted to dwell. But Ids true wortb 
de>tinaiians; or the doctrine that was re- does not stop here, in his private life he 
ceived by ihe church at the time the house was honorable, and truly amiable. 

was- built is not invited, still they say no 

To the fatherless and the widow, he 
was a father, to the poor he was charitable 

boiida of love. 



Vienna, Jila 
May 14/ ft, 1846 
f>EAR Editors: By the request of the 
friends and i elation*, you-will please pub 
lish the enclosed obituaries in your paper, 
and oblige yours very respectfoll v. 

li. WEAVER. 


Died, fft his residence in Pickens county, 
Alabama, on the morning of the 27th 
April, A. IK 1S46, Hudson Harris, in 
the sixtieth year of his age. The deceased 

I must close, my sheet is fuff. If any and kind; and lo the disconsolate he was 
exceptions are taken to this. I must wiile soothing, pouring in oil io the broken heart 
again and be more plain. Yours in the and causing many to be glad lhat sorrowed.- 

Long will he be held in remembrance by 
the poor and needy of his acquaintance. 
During the shoFt illness which terminated 5 
his earthly career, he was patient and re- 
signed, and often spoke of his dissolution 
with calmness; and near his last moments, 
when the sting of death had already fasten- 
ed itself upon him, his confidence in his 
Redeemer was firm and unshaken, and in 
his patience he seemed to say '*thy wdl be' 
dune." He has been called from among, 
us, to a beiier world we trust, where he 
may be re uniied to his companion, who 1 
was called from his embraces a few years 
previous. He has left a large family of 
children, all of whom he was spared 1 to 
see arrived at the years of matuiity; and a 
wide circle of friends and relations to 

was born in U'ake eotinty, North Carolina 

from whence he removed wiih his parents mourn iheir loss But ihey sorrow not as 

to Richmond county, in the same Slate, 
where he lived for many years, respected 
and esteemed by a large circle of friends 
and relations. In the year A. D. 182S, he 

i hose who have no hope, their loss is his 
eternal gain. Often will the friends and 
relations, and particularly the servants of 
the deceased to whom he vvab ever kind. 



repair to his grave, and rlrop a tear in 
memory of him whose face they will si e 
no more on earth; and returning from 
thence will recount the many acts of kind- 
ness which they ha\ e leceived at his hands. 
Sleep on, thou sainted one. 9leep on; thy 
memory still lives* And when the trump 
of God shall sound to wake this sleeping 
dust, may it be united to his happy spirit 
in glory and there in the church Ilium* 
phant, and around the throne of God and 
the Lamb, meet his- children, relations, 
and family^ where parting will be no more. 
Hut the destroyer stops not here Also 
at the le-itlerce of her daughter, in Pick- 
ens county* AlirbattJaj on Sunday e\e' ing 
Ihe 3rd May, 1646, Elizabeth liar, is 
(mother Of the above deceased.) aged 
eighty eight years The deceased was ihe 
wife of Shei rod Harris, and was a native ol 
Virginia, from whence she removed to 
W.ike count v in the Slate of North Caroli 
iia, where she lived for many years, useful 
hi her sphere, respected and beloved by a 
wide cii cle ol r< lat ions and friends \ t an 
advanced age she reqnoved to Alabama 
with her children, with' whom she spent 
the declining \ ears of her life. The <le 
ceased w;is no ordinary character, -he was 
One of those mothers who has witnessed 
perils in the dark days of our country's 
adversity. In her character she was ener- 
getic, noble and free, and although her life 
has been spared far bej'ond Ihe nitiunon 
lot ol man. ami until the roiurse ol nature 
seems almost to ha e dime its ork, \ et 
her death is much to he d'eplured, because 
on earth we will see her lace no moie. 
Ahhough the deceased had not attached 
herself to any chinch on earth, yet we 
have no downt I ■ t > t ihat her name was i gjs 
leie ' in the • htw^h above, hivn g for mai \ 
years lived lh Ide i hris un She 

has left that testin ouy hi hind wlu< i ra t e 
ttiieiTing fiui s of a pioun alk an rts df\ 
eonveisaiion. Kite (lay h* tore her death 
she set up in bed had the Ijitle matters 
pertaining to her burial brought to her and 
adjusted. She told her friends that the 

time of her departure Was at hand, and 
filial k he was read}' to go, and in the lan- 
guage of the apostle, she had ''fought the 
good fight and kept the faith/' She has 
gone we trust where the wicked cease 
from troubling and the weary are forever 
at rest 

1 would say then to the relations and 
friends, weep not for her, she cannot return 
lo us, hut lei us be prepared to go to her, 
The young muy die, and the aged mvsl ', 

R. M. 

Sine/airs Bottom. Smyth enmity, Va.') 
August \st, 1S4 6 $ 
Dear Editors: You will please publish 
the death of your Ag<nt in your paper. 
A KD It EW J. U(j USE. 
Died, at his residence in Smyth county, 
j Va. on Sunday the i2ih day ofJuly, IS46. 
I (at)' Levi Bishop, in the 70ih \ ear of his 
,agi ol a protracted dyspepsia of 13 \ears 
ICapt. Bishop whs a pure model of all the 
I perfections o! piety. He wasa kind, con- 
! filling and affectionate husband, father and 
li iend ; a u uly good neighbor, kind under 
[all circumstances to the poor, so fur as his 
ability extended; and a kind and very 
igri e.ihle companion. Hut above all. he 
whs t true woi'! hiper of the great 1 AM, 
and ;i faithful believer in the atonement 
made by our Lord and Saviour; and for 
! the last 31 years has been a member of the 
Sinclair's Bottom church; and although 
deeply afflicted for the last few years, yet 
I he was meek and patient under every trial, 
and his faith seemed as an ever rolling 
stream, smoothly gliding along lo the ocean 
! of eternal glory. Perfectly resigned to the 
will of his Lord and Vlasler, he had noth- 
ing to bind him on eat"h but a strong af- 
1 fed ion for a doling, at' en live and confiding, 
wife and children. But when the time of 
his departure can e, he passed the vait 
without a struggle or a gioan, with a goodl 
ci ui lenance, *js if invited away by angels 
to ihe skies. He is gone and his family 
s,i I mourn hislos-; hut their sorrow is 
i t like tie sorrow o 1 those who have no 
hope; they mourn, bin their sorrow is min- 
gled with joy from ihe recollection, that 
their loss is his eternal gain. Let us all 
imitate his bright example, and theo we 
shall find peaee on earth, and eternal joys 
at God's right hand for evermore. 




JippoininieritS for Elder Ii. J. Mot I. 

Sept. 19th, at Newport Chapel; 0&th, 
at Cross Roads, in Johnston county; 220(1, 
Mt. Gilead; 24th, at Rocky Spring; 25th, 
at Salem 1 ; October 2nd, at Falls Ta'r River; 
7th, at Tarboro'; 8th, at Coneto; 9th, at 
Gtim Swamp-, 10th, at Flat Swamp, 11th, 
at Great Swaimp. 

to EBTTORS primitive BAPTisf. 

Lexington, Mi., 2nd July, 1826. 

I^ear Editors: Please give thefollc'w- 
l'u'g a few insertions in your paper. 

The Primitive Baptist Association will 
hold nf ninth annual meeting with the 
Lewis's Creelt church, Carroll county, 
Hi., commencing on Saturday before the 
third Sabbath i'n Sept. 1846. O. S. Bap- 
tiatsare especially invited to meet with us. 

1 remain with great respect your obedi- 
erot servant. 


fmmmmmmmmmmm —— — — ■— — T— ■■■» 



North Carolina. C.B.Hassell, Williamtatw 
R. M. G. Moore, G£rman/on. W. \v. Wtiigti,Pty- 
mouth. Benji Byrrum, ftahunta Depot, H. \ve- 
r-&,Jiverasboro' . Burwell Temple, Raleigh. Thos. 
Bagley, Smithfcld James H. Sasser, Waynes- 
boro''. L. B. Bennett, Heathville. Cor's Cana* 
day, Crutensville Wi'lTiam Welch, Abbott's 
Creek, A. B. Bains, Jr. Stanhope. C. T. Saw- 
yer, Powell's Point. H. Wiikerson, Went Point. J. 
Miller, Milton Park. Isaac Meekirts and Samuel 
Rogers, Columbia, Wnn Mi Hushing, White's 
Store. James H.Smith, Wilmington, Jacob Her- 
ring, Go/dsboro''. S. Tatum. Elizabeth City, Ad- 
am Hooker, Salem Church, Abner Lamb, Cam- 
den C. H, 

South Carolina. Wm. S. Shaw, Rock Mills 
W. B. Villard, Sr. Aiken. M.McGraw, Brown's. 
J.L.Simpson, Winnsboro 1 . Ji Gr Bov?ers, Whip- 
py Swamp, Wm. Nelson, Camden. G. Mat 
thews, Germanvil/e. J C Lucas, Lexington C, H. 
Amos Hill, Pleasant View 

Georgia. John McKenney, Forsyth. Thomas 
Amis, Lexington. John M. Field, Macon. John 
W. Turner, Pleasant Hill. Wlliam Trice and 
William D.Taylor, Tho'iiaston. Ezra V?f< rai y- 
Warrenton. Prior Lewis, Thomaaville. I. Las,' 
seller', Fernon. Ariner Djufhamv Green milt, (,eo 
LeeveS; Millcdgevi lie. W. J. Parker. Chenub LP 
Kllis, Pineville, ?. Haggard ,Athehs. A.MiTho | - 
son, Port Valfey. Daniel O-^eclfffliveGrme. .i,,nn 
Wayne, Cain's, R. S. Hamrick, Carrollton D. 
Smith, Cool Spring Moses H. Denman, Marietta 
Jethro Gates, Mulberry Grove k lsham Edwards^ 

Marion. Joseph Daniel, Fish's. R, L. HayrteV 
Lebanon. T. w. Dearing, Cotton River. E.Davis- 
Gretn Hilh 

Alabama. A. Ke.alori, Belmont. H.Darice and 1 
W. Bizdell, E'utdw'. JG.Bell, Liberty Hill. J 
G.Walker, Milton; HrWiniams, Havana, J.' 
Daniel, Claitto¥ne, E. Daniel, Church, Hill, J. 
Crfrpent'e^Sf. Clinton, J McQaeen^Lowridesboro '„• 
Wm.Talley, Mount Moriahi B Upcrrurch, Bene- 
tola. S. Hamrick. Plant ersvllle. James? S. Mor- 
gan', tfayton. Rufus Dan'feT, Jameston, 5oel H.' 
Chambless, htiweuilje. F. Pickett, China Grovei 
John w. Pellum, Frartklin. John Harrell, Mis- 
souri. Wm'. Thomas, Gainers' Store. E. M. A- 
mos, Midway, Allen Moore, intercourse, John 1 
Bryat!', Sr, Fullersville, Benj. Lloyd*,- Weiurripkd 
N. N.BafmoYe, Mill Pert, A. Ha'iley, Pintlala; 
Vincent Williams, Mobile. Young S ; rni i th, Eufau- 
la T.J. Foster, Bell's Landing. Henry Cason'- 
Movticello. Henry Petfy, Pickimt'iWe. D. R. 
P. King, Painesvifk. John' whitehead', JY. Plea- 
sant Mains. M. W. Helm's,- Bridgeville. Eliy 
B. Turner, Mbevitte. Thomas TowngeiYd',- Fork- 
land. Rohert Grady, Bluff Port. R. R. Thornp- 
sou, Centreville, James F. Watson, Geneva; 

Tennessee Michael Burkhalter./asper,- Vv'm.- 
Croom, Jackson. Solomon Ruth, Weslei/; fVa E. 
Douthit, Lynchburg, Geo'. I'urner,-' Waverly,- 
Henry Randolph, SnOdysvitk, Pleasant A. Witt, 
Russdvil/e, William McBee. Old Town Creek,- 
A. Burroughs, Moore's X Roads. James Shelton,- 
Porlersuille. Sharfrach Mustain, Lewisburg. Na-' 
than S. McDowell. Tazewell, Henry Turner, Fay- 
Utevllle. Isaac Moore, tiiplcu, James Sallinrf.- 

Bull Run 8 

1 LofjisiA'NA. Thos PaxtJon, Green sb6fh' . JaS,- 
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they will, it is what I believe to be th*< 
doctrine of our Lord JeSus Christ. 


As the doctrine of Election, has bee'ri 
the subject of much debate, and long con- 

July 3rd 1846. ' S ' troversy, and as it iff worthy of an examin- 
es t> t j ' • ation, to see if it be true, I will endeavor 
Dear Brethren: I send you a piece ' , ,. , , . ', ™V 
' . , o,... *i ir ■ .,._... T -, to speak the things which become Sound 
wrote by Simeon 1V1.. Kee, which I wish , ' . tv i • it"" 

. . I u i- p i. i . '-J. i , >• doctrine. Fsalms. 139 c. 16 v. Thine 
you to publish. It Was wrote by him' ,. ■ 

v ,-, • . 4 , i • • , lit eyes did see my substance, vet Being im- 

while rrr the Arminian. church, and he ■ J c , • , , , , & 

v . x . v c *. .u i » - xlL ,i perfect; and in thy book all my members 

contended for the doctrine of the apostles; r . / J 4 

,j.i - . „ , j . t . i« . r i J were written, which in continuance were 

and they could not stand it, and he wrote ■ ' . v 

i-'C i- f i ^ ■« . 4 t > a fashioned,- when aS yet there was none of 

bis belief and read it to them, and thev T . - • ■ 

*• ii j •* *w j * • u e' j -i a i iv" them. Isaian, 46 c. 9 v. I am God- and 
(tailed' it the doctrine of devils, And he. , . ;., 

^ .. . . iV , i-i- ." a., i there id none like me. v. 10. Declaring 
sent it to be published in' the. Alabama' ,. .... ' .?■* M u e 

B.--.-^ j.. ... ... . .,, , . . , ,. . . , the end from the', beginning, and from an- 

aptist, but they would not publish but . .. ... » • »' 

'half of it, Aid would be injurious to C ' ent time3 '- the" things that arc not yet 

the cause: So he did not think that all' ^J&*&?* cbunseI shaI1 Stand ' aml l 
I n M <**~ tu * i i i .k - i ft will do all my pleasure. 

Were Baptists that held the name, and has • , ,, , / ' 

i t^.u nil iv i „i r> As God' is omnipotent, onininresenG 

come home to the Old Regulars, the Bap- ... ' ' ' c " 1 * 

.- . c . ' t & . J- • ana Omniscient, will it not be admitted he 

tists. So no more at present, but remain ; . . . „ . »«»*cu,.iie 

•• /-i..- »• i is eternal, • infinite, and universal; extend- 

yours- in Christian love. . -,' , '. ' c u 

BtTP CHURCH | 7n S toa11 P^ces, times; and things, and 

knows all events by his own essence,, in- 

■ | tlependenth", distinctly, infallibly^ and per- 

Dear Brethren: By the request of petually. And as God is that' sovereign 

Some brethren I send you the following being that made all things by the word of 

essay for publicity, as it was written when his power, determined to create man in 

f remained with the. ■ Missionary Baptists, his own image, and to leave him to the 

I vtfaS'displeaSed with" their preaching, (and j freedom of his own will, possessing holi- 

ad vantages sought to turn me out of thc! n ess and elevated faculties", and large capa' 

church' for my principles- of doctrine and cities, for enjoyment, was designed to an- 

faith in Christ,) was the' cause of my wri- swer his eternal purpose. Nor was the 

ting the following essay. Some of them 
acknowledged the doctrine to be true, and 
some said it wasfalsejlet others say what 

entrance of sin subversive of his great de- 
sign; but made subservient to it, in various 
ways. It was impossible such an event- a£ 



Bin, should bring confusion into the plan 
of divine operation or eternal counsel, 
which the trinity had formed (yet man 

God foreseeing man would certainly fallj 
he chose his elect in Christ before the 
foundation of the world, out of the fallen 
race of Adam; which he did ordain, or pre- 
destinated them unto eternal life, to be sa- 
ved in the dispensations of the fullness of 
time. As it pleased him, they should have 
their existence in this world by the merits 
of Christ, who was virtually a Lamb slain 
from the foundation of the world, and in 
the fullness oi lime he was actually slain 
for the sins of his people, which I will 
prove. Isaiah 53 c. 8 v. He was taken 
from prison, and from judgment, and who 
shall declare his generation; for he was 
cut off, out of the land of the living, for 
the transgression of my people was he 
stricken. Verse 10. Yet it pleased the 
Lord to bruise him, he hath put him to 
grief, when thou shall make his soul an of- 
fering for sin (he shall see his seed, he 
shall prolong his days,) and the pleasure 
of the Lord shall prosper in his hand. 
Verse 1 1. He shall see of the travel of his 
soul, and shall be satisfied, by his knowl- 
edge, shall my righteous servant justify 
many; for he shall bear their iniquities. 
Verse 1$. Therefore will I divide him a 
portion with the great, and he sball divide 
the spoil with the strong, because he hath 
poured out his soul unto death, and he was 
numbered with the transgressors, and he 
bare the sin of many, and made interces- 
sion forth* transgressors. 

It is very plainly shewn in the above 
qtwMation of the prophet,that the sufferings 
of Christ, should be for the sin of his peo- 
ple, or hiaeleet; as he was stricken for the 
sins of hi* people, and speakingof justifying 
many, and he bearthe sin of many; which 
words, cannot be understood all, or every 
person. Again, we will refer to the words 
of Christ in proof of this doctrine. John, 
$. c. 3T v. All that the Father giveth 
me, shall come to me, and him that com- 
eth to me, I vyill in, no wise cast out. 
Verso 3^ Fori came down from heaven 

not to do mine own will, but the will of 
him that sent me. Verse 39. And this is 
the Father's will which hath sent me, that 
of all which he hath given me, I should 
lose nothing, but should raise it up again 
at the last day. The Jews then murmured 
at him. Verse 43. Jesus therefore an- 
swered and said unto them, murmur not 
among yourselves. Verse 44. No man 
Can come to me except the Father which 
sent me draw him; and I will raise him up 
at the last day. Verse 45. It is written 
jn the prophets, and they shall all be 
taught of God. Every man therefore that 
hath heard, and hath learned of the Fath- 
er, cometh unto me. John, 10 c 11 v. I 
am the good shepherd, the good shepherd 
giveth his life for the sheep. 

Christ is a shepherd of his Father's ap- 
pointing and sending, to whom the care of 
all his sheep, or chosen, or predestinated 
ones, was committed; and under the charac- 
ter of a shepherd, died far them, and arose 
again, and is accountable to his Father for 
every one of them. Yes, he lay down his- 
life freely for the sake of the sheep,in their 
room and stead, as a ransom for them, that 
they may be delivered from death, and 
might haveeterna-1 life. Verse 15. As the 
Father knoweth me, even so know I the 
Father, and I lay down my rife for the 
sheep. The Father knows Christ as his 
own Son, and loves him as such, and has 
entrusted him with his chosen, or elect; 
and as he lay down his life for the sheep, 
proves him to be the good shepherd. 
Verse 16. But ye believe not, because ye 
are not of my sheep. On the contrary , 
this text proves that they were not given 
to him, by his Father, if they were they 
would have come to- him (that is) have 
believed on him'-, they were not the chosen 
of God, (predestinated) unto eternal life,. 
for as many as were ordained t& etiernali 
life believed^; but these not being the elect 
of God, had not the faith of God's elect 
given to them. Verse 2.7. My sheep 
hear my voice, and. I know them, and; 
they follow me. Verse 28. And I give- 
unto them eternal life, and they shall nev- 
er perish, neither shall any pluck then* 



6iit of my hand 1 . 

It is evident from this text, that the gift 
6f fidil is eternal life to his people; yes, 
Christ is made Unto them wisdom, and 
righteousness, and sanctification, and re- 
demption; as it is written', he that gtoriethj 
let him' glory in* the Lord. Although they 
were lost in Adam, and 1 in a perishing con- 
dfitionf, in themselves during their state of 
tihregeneratio'n, in which Condition, they 
see themselves to he, when convicted hy 
(he Spirit of God, and come as persons rea- 
dy to perish to Christ, as a Saviour, resol- 
ving if they perish they'll perish at his 
feet. Great God thy everlasting love has 
Drought them to the feet of Jesus, and none 
Can perish there, but are freely pardoned 
for Christ's sake. Yes, the saints are a 
Crown of glory* in the hand of the Lord, 
and a royal diadem in the hand of their 
God; they are a signet on: his right hand, 
that shall never be plucked off; they are en 
graved, upon the palms of his hands, and 
their walls are continuaflv before him. 
Verse 29. My Father which gave them 
me is greater thm all: and none is able to 
pluck them out of my Father's hand. 

Is it not surprising that this doctrine 
Will not be believed, by many who say 
the Lord hath sent them to preach 1 the gos- 
pel? This last text shews that there i« no 
power thai can destroy them, although they 
have a messenger of sat'an to buffet them, 
feast they should' be exalted above mea- 
sure; which at times, causes them to cry 
out and say, surely if I was one of them, 
who are kept by the power of God through 
faith ready try be revealed in the last times, 
if wouhl never bb thus with me. John, 
lf7c". 2' v. A* thou hast given him power 
over all flesh, that he should give eternal 
life feo as many as thou hast given him. 
Verse 9. I pray for them: I pray riot 1 for 

them. Me prayed hot for the world, but 

for his people that were given him by the 
Fa' her before time began Romans, 8 C. 
29 v. For whom he did foreknow, he also 
did predestinate to be conformed to the tm 
age of his Son, that he might be the first- 
born among many brethren. By his know- 
ledge he foreknew all things, and all men 
in a general sense; and if this was the pro- 
per meaning of the text, afll men were pre- 
destinated to be conformed to the image of' 
Christ; called, by graces justified, a'nrf 
glorified. Now it is evident that this i* 
not the meaning of the text, for Christ 
says, at the last day there' will be many 
that will speak of their good] works thai 
they suppose they have done; and his an- 
swer will be, depart from me, ye worker* 
of iniquity, for I never knew you, (that is* 
in the eternal counsel, or plan of rederrip- 
frcm.) put whom he did foreknow in the 
determinate counsel, or covenant, he did! 
predestinate to be conformed to the image 
of Christ. Verse 30. Moreovef whom he 
did predeslinate, them he afeo called; atid 
whom he called, them he a feo justified; and 
whom he justified, them he also glnrified 1 . 

fnthe above text, t will boldly say, all 
the men of learning, and cunning crafti- 
ness, and all the powers of darkness, can 
never make void, the plain sense and do- 
minion of Almighty God, that is brought 
to view in this text, in predestinating, call- 
ing,- justifying, and glorifying, al'l that he 
gave to Christ, to be saved with an ever- 
Testing salvation; not in consideration of 
any thing good in them, arty more that* 
those that perish, but according to his/Own 
eternal purpose, which he purposed in 
Christ .Jesus before the world began. 
Verse 32: He that spared not his own Son. 
But delivered him up for us all, how shall 
he not wiih him alse freely give us all' 

the world, but for them which thou hast things. That is, God the Father delivered- 
given me, for they are thine: I him according to* the determinate counsel? 

Jesus whilst on earth prayed for his peo- ' and fore'uiowltdge, into the hands of wick- 
pie in submission to his- Father's will, and | ed men* into the hands of justice, and to 
in his prayer he sa')s, all mine are thine death itself; not fuv alp men individually, 
and thine are mine, and I am glorified in I in a saving sense of the righteousness ©£ 



Christ being imputed to them; for all do not 
come to Christ, nor do all men receive the 
gift of. grace, and all things freely with 
Christ; no, all men do not receive Christ, 
nor all men are not delii/ered from con- 
demnation and death by him. If he was 
delivered up for al! men individually, by 
the determinate counsel he must be deliv- 
ered in vain for some, which would charge 
God with derangement in his eternal pur- 
pose and counsel. But for U3 all, whom 
he foreknew, predestinated, called, jnsti- 
fied, and glorified, according to his own 
good will and pleasure, without any con 
ditions, for he is not moved thereunto, by 
any thing. in them, or. performed by (hem. 
Rom. 9 c. 11 v. (For the children being 
not yet born, neither having done any good 
or evil, that the purpose of God according 
to election might stand, not of work's, but | 
of him that calleth. ) In this text it is plain 
iy shewn that God viewed all mankind 
alike by nature, and in a deplorable and 
most wretched condition, when as yet, he 
had not made man; consequently, they had 
not done any good of evil, yet the purpose 
of God according to the election must 

It is evident from the Scriptures that the 
elect, were chosen in Christ before the' 
foundation of the world. Ver.«e 13. As it 
is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau 
have I hated. By this text the apostle 
proves God's eternal love to his people, by 
refering to God's revealed Jove to Jacob, 
snd his hatred or rejection of Esau, as to 
his choice who should possess the kingdom; 
although, Ksau was Jacob's brother, and 
the same by nature, yet it pleased God that 
Jacob should be ruler of his brother, 
the lot of his inheritance. As it is written, 
concerning Jacob, 1 have loved thee with 
an everlasting love, therefore with loving 
kindness have I drawn thee. Again, 1 am 
the Lord, I change not, therefore ye sons 
of Jacob are not consumed; which plainly 
shews that Jacob was not loved, and saved, 
by any condition that he performed, any 
more than his brother that was hated or 

rejected. Mark God's words to Jacob 1 - 
But thou hast not called upon me, O Jacob, 
but thou hast been weary of me, Israel. 
Thou hast bought me ho sweet cane with 
money, neither hast thou filled me with 
the fat of thy sacrifices: but thou hast made 
me to serve with thy sins, thou hast wea- 
ried me with thins iniquities. After such 
a complication of charges exhibited against 
Jacob, who cou)d expect but the next word 
would flash vengeance and denounce utter 
destruction. But lo, rejoice, oh ye chil- 
dren of men, every wprd teems With con- 
solation. 1 even 1 am he, that blotteth out 
thy transgressions for mine own sake, and 
will not remember thy sins. Verse 15< 
For he sayelhto Moses 1 will have mercy 
on whom I will have mercy, and I wijj 
hare compassion on whom 1 will have 
compassion. • ,''" ' ■ '.•" 

The apostle continues to prove this doc- 
trine by testimonies from the writings of 
Moses, shewing that God had delivered the 
doctrine of election to Moses by saying, I 
will have mercy on whom 1 will have 
mercy, &c. This is produced, in favor of 
special, particular, and personal election, 
and to clear it from any charge of unright- 
eousness; and by jt, it appears, that God 
. bestows his grace and mercy ih time, On 
sod) persons. as he has 'willed* and deter- 
mined from all eternity to bestow it. See- 
ing no new will can possibly arise in God, 
! God wills nothing in time, but what he 
' willed belore time, and thai this grace and 
mercy, are shewn only to some persons, 
and not by the works, and merits, or con- 
ditions, of men. Verse 23. And that he 
might make known the riches of his glory 
on the vessels of mercy, which he had 
afore prepared unto glory. 

That is, his glorious riches and perfec- 
tions; his love gracey and mercy; his wis- 
dom, power, faithfulness, justice, and holi- 
ness; all which are most evidently display- 
ed in the salvation of his people, here called 
vessels of mere}', which he had afore pre^ 
pared unto glory, as creatures made and 
brought into being; termed vessels of mer- 



cy, as fallen beings, and by sin become 
miserable, for only such are objects of mer- 
cy. They are by nature children of wrath 
even as others, but called of God by his 
infinite goodness, and filled them with his 
mercy, in the regeneiation of them by his 
spirit, and these are by him afore prepared 
unto glory, (virtually;) and in consequence 
ol which virtue, are called, in time and re 
Veals the knowledge of Christ's righteous 
ness being imputed to them, according to 
his good pleasure and eternal purpose, 
which he purposed in Christ Jesus our 
Lord. Who can charge the Lord with 
unrighteousness in thus acting? Romans, 
U c. 6 v. And if by grace, then it is no 
more of works; otherwise grace is no more 
grace. But if it be of works, then it is no 
more grace otherwise work is no more 
work. Here the apostle forms an argu- 
ment sufficient to stop the mouths of all 
gainsayers or condiiionists as regards their 
works, shewing the contrariety, and incon- 
sistency of works; as grace is unmerited, 
free favor, and works of men by nature 
void in that affair, proving that it must be 
by one or the other, and if by one then not 
by the other, and that these cannot be 
mixed, and blended together by no means 
in this matter. 

This is the axe or sword that is drawn 
by Jehovah, with its sharp and glittering 
edge, to cut down all the pride of man, and 
the Armjnian boasted works of condition, 
and beloved free agency. Verse 7. What 
then? Israel hath not obtained that which 
he seeketh for, but the election hath ob- 
tained it, and the rest were blinded. Who 
can dispute the truth of this doctrine, 
which the apostle has so clearly proven by 
the revelation of God and the dictates of 
the Holy Spirit? It is as clear as the sun, 
it is out of all question, to stand in opposi- 
tion to this doctrine; yes, those persons 
epoken of ;n the text obtained favor of 
God by virtue, and in consequence, of 
their being elected, for which reason mer- 
cy was shewn them, grace was bestowed 
upon them, and the righteousness of Christ 

was imputed to them, faith was given 
them. And so God's elect in all ages, and 
nations where the knowledge of God has 
been revealed, obtain the same things, and 
will obtain, for the counsel of the Lord 
shall stand, and he will do all his pleasure. 
His word and oath are immutable, his eter- 
nal purpose inviolable, his grace unaliena- 
ble, and his power omnipotent. And the 
rest were blinded, or stumbled at the word 
of the gospel, being disobedient whereun- 
to they were also appointed. See 1 Peter, 
2 c. 8 v. And a stone of stumbling, and a 
rock of offence even to them which stum- 
ble at the word, being disobedient; where- 
unto also they were appointed. 

Yes, the apostle was well aware the 
preaching of Christ crucified, always was, 
and still is a stumbling block unto many, 
because their carnal mind is enmity against 
God, therefore they could not comprehend 
or conceive the works of God, and they 
refused to submit their carnal reason to the 
doctrine of Christ. He being set in the 
counsel, and purpose of God, as for the ri- 
sing of some; so for stumbling and falling 
of others and for a sign that shall be spoken 
against. For as there are some whom God 
has appointed, and foreordained to believe 
in Christ, and on whom he has determined 
to bestow true faith in him, so there are 
othcs, left in that disobedience, and enmi- 
ty into which the fall brought, and included 
them, through which they stumble at 
Christ and his word, and in consequence 
thereof, justly perish. Ephesians 1 c. 4 
v. According as he hath chosen us in him 
before the foundation of the world, that 
we should be holy, and without blame be* 
fore him in love. This choice cannot be 
understood of a national one, for the per- 
sons the apostle writes to were not a nation, 
nor does he address all the inhabitants of 
Ephesus, only the saints, and faithful in 
Christ; and this choice is made in Christ, 
and by being chosen in him they come to 
him by the will of God, and as the king- 
dom was prepared for them from the foun- 
dation of the world, the end of this choice 



follows that they should be holy, and with 
out blame before him in love. Verse 5. 
Having predestinated us unto the adoption 
of children by Jesus Christ to himself, ae 
cording to the good pleasure of his will. 

This shews that the elect of God were 
predestinated before time to be adopied 
children in time, to be heirs of God and 
joint heirs with Christ. Verse 7. In whom 
we have redemption through his blood, 
the forgiveness of sins, according to the 
riches of his grace. Verse 9. Having 
made known unto us the mystery of his 
will, according to his good pleasure which 
he hath purposed in himself. Verse 11. 
In whom also we have attained an inherit- 
ance, (the question may be asked whv?) 
being predestinated according to the pur 
pose of him who worketh all things after 
the counsel of his own will. This text 
plainly shows that they obtained salvation 
in consequence of their being predes'ina 
ted; and this test also shews God's domin- 
ion, eternal purpose, and will, and counsel 
to be unchangeable, and undeniable 

Again, when Paul admonished Timothy 
to consider what he said, that God might 
give him understanding in all things, and 
to remember that Jesus Christ was raised 
from the dead acording to the gospel, he 
adds: Wherein 1 suffer trouble, as an evil 
doer even unto bonds; but the word of God 
is not bound. 1 Tim, 2 c. 10 v. There- 
fore I endure all things for the elect's sake, 
that they may also obtairi the salvation 
which is in Christ Jesus With eternal glory 
This evidently proves there is a ceitain 
number of persons whom God has chosen 
in Christ from everlasting unto salvation, 
who shall certainly be saved; for these Je- 
sus Christ suffered, and died; and on then 
account is the gospel sent, preached, and 
published to the world. Yes, for their 
sakes, and ministers fitted and qualified to 
preach the gospel, that they may also ob 
tain, as well as those that have obtained. 

After so many strong and undeniable 
proofs of the doctrine of election has been 
revealed by the Spirit in the aacred volume 

of inspiration, yet it is said to be a mystery, 
that has never been revealed to man. Let 
us hear what t lie apostle Paul says about 
the mystery. Ephe. 3 c. 2 v. If ye have 
heard of the dispensation of the grace of 
God which is given me, to you-ward. 
How that by revelation he made known 
unto me the mystery, as I wrote afore in 
few words, whereby when ye read, ye 
may understand my knowledge in the 
mystery of Christ, which in other ages 
was not made known unto the sons of men, 
as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles, 
and prophets, by the Spirit; whereof 1 was 
made a minister according to the gift of the 
grace of God, given unto me by the effec- 
iual working of his power. And to make 
all men see what is the fellowship of the 
mystery which from the beginning of the 
world, hath been hid in God who created 
all thing* by Jesus Christ To the intent, 
that now unto the principalities, and pow- 
ers, in heavenly places, might be known 
bv the church, the manifold wi*dom of 
God, according to the eternal purpose which 
he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord; who 
hath saved us and called us with a holy 
calling, not according to our works, but 
according to his own purpose and grace, 
which was given us in Christ Jesus belore 
the world began; yes, by grace are ye sa- 
ved through faith; and that not of your- 
-elves, it is the gift of God. 

Is not this enough to make the child of 
God exclaim, in an exalting yet an humble 
sensation of soul, didsi thou record my 
worthless name in the book of life, and 
constitute me a member of that m)slieal 
body of which Christ is the head? Didst 
thou, my God, in the original plan of sal. 
vation. provide for the honor of thy justice, 
as well as the glory of thy g'ace, in thy 
eternal purpose and counsel by appointing 
a surety (thine only Son) to perform the 
obedience, to which 1 am bound as a crea- 
ture, and to suffer the punishment that I 
deserve as a criminal? And in order to 
effect the amazing design, didst thou deter- 
mine before I had a being or time corn- 



mencen 1 , lo deliver up the Son of thy love, 
clothed in hurmnily, to suffer the stroke of 
stern justice, and the ignominious death of 
the cross, and lo arise again, and ascend to 
thee on high lo make intercession for such 
a worm as 1; and all this to magnify, to res- 
cue, to save, to ennoble and to dignify? Oh, 
be astonished, oh my soul at this, (marvel 
ous grace.) Didst thou enter into an ever- 
lasting covenant with the Son of thy love, 
to save me from final ruin, and bring me 
to immortal bliss, and shall not I freely 
engage with hand and heart, to be thine 
fotevei? Bind me. oh blessed Lord, for- 
ever bind me to thyself, with the delight- 
ful cords of thy love, that 1 may never de- 
sert thy service, that I may never dishonor 
thy name. 

But however comfortable this doctrine 
may be to such as aie persuaded of their 
interest in the love of God, is it not adapt, 
ed to discourage the inquiring soul, and to 
overwhelm the awakened sinner, with des- 
ponding fears? Does it not administer 
abundant occasion, for a sinner, thus to re- 
flect; I know not whether Christ and his 
salvation be free for me, if I be not of the 
number of God's elect. All that make 
such objections do not seem to have a suffi- 
cient knowledge of the work of the spirit, 
and entire depravity of human nature; 
which is wholly corrupt, and their natural 
mind is enmity against God, and is not 
subject to the law of God, neither can be. 
Seeing that this is the situation of man by na- 
ture, it is evident that the spirit of God has 
quickened the dead faculties of his soul 
and convicted his guilty coneience if he is 
hungering and thirsting, after the righte- 
ousness of Christ. These are the very 
characters the Lord has drawn, and in his 
word invites to Christ; and I will bring the 
blind by a way that they know not; I wil] 
lead them in paths that they have not 
known: I will make darkness light before 
them; and crooked things straight. These 
things will I do unto them, and not forsake 
them. Yes, the natural man is addressed 
by inspiration in the following words: 

Hear ye deaf, and look ye blind, that ye 
may see. After Jesus had opened the eyes 
of one that was born blind he conversed 
with him and said, for judgment 1 am come 
into this world, that they which see not, 
might see; and that they which see, might 
be made blind. And the Phaiisees said 
unto him, are we blind also? Jesus said 
unto them, if ye were blind, ye should have 
no sin; but now ye say, we see; therefote 
your sin remaineth. 

A sinner while under conviction, should 
endeavor to claim such promises, as Christ 
has promised that apply to his condition. 
Blessed are they that mourn, for they shalt 
be comforted. And we will say by the 
authority of the word of God, that all that 
truly mourn, and have been convicted by 
the spirit of God, are embraced in the cov- 
enant, or plan of redemption. In proof of 
this doctrine see Philip, I c. 6 v. Being 
confident of this very thing, that he which 
hath begun a good work in you will perform 
it until the day of Jesus Christ. And be- 
cause ye are sons, God hath sent the spirit 
of his Son into your hearts crying Abba 
Father. And as the tternal glory of God 
in the consummate happiness of all his 
chosen, is the exalted end of the decree of 
election, so the means appointed to accom- 
plish the wonderful design, are equally 
worthy of infinite wisdom. The principal 
of these means undoubtedly are the incar- 
nation of the eternal Son, and his divine 
mediation, the sanctification of the Spirit, 
and belief of the truth. 

Again, Isaiah, 59 c. 81 r. As for me, 
this is my covenant with them, saith the 
Lord; my spirit that is upon thee, and my 
words which 1 have put in thy mouth, shall 
not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the 
mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of 
thy seed's seed, sayeth the Lord, from 
henceforth and forever. Isaiah, 55 c. 10, 11 
v. For as the rain cometh down and the 
snow from heaven, and returneth not thith- 
er but watereth the earth and maketh it 
bring forth and bud that it may give seed to 
the sewer and bread to the eater, so ehall 



jmy word be that gotth forth out of my 
mouth; it shall not reiurn unto me yokl. 
but it shall accomplish that which i please, 
and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I 
sent it. 

• The above means, with many others 
which the Lord has been pleased to use, 
yes by the foolishness of preaching it pleases 
God to save them that believe; for there is 
the same reason that the appointed means 
of God, and the choice of hjs elect shouid 
unchangeably stand, as there is for any 
Other pf his eternal designs, and that im- 
mutability is stamped upon the divine de 
jcrees in general the scripiures abundantly 
show. Thus it is written, the Lord of 
hosts hath purposed and who shall disannul 
jt. My counsel shall stand, and I will 
do all my pleasure. He is in one mind. 
and who can turn him. To shew unto the 
heirs of promise the immutability of his 
counsel. With whom is no variableness 
neither a shadow of turning 

Korean we suppose that God should re- 
verse his decrees pr alter his purposes, 
without impeaching either his omniscience 
as though he dftl rjqt foresee the events that 
would happen, or his omnipotence as if he 
were not able to execute his own designs; 
neither of which, can possibly attend that 
infinite being whose will cannot be changed, 
and whose words can never be reversed. 
The only wise God had no need for second 
thoughts, as he is wise to perfection he sees 
no cause pf reversing his eternal purposes 
or decrees. I o suppose therefore that am 
who were chosen lo eternal glory should 
fail of enjoying it, when salvation is alliof 
God, is an imagination absurdly impious. 
a# it suggests a chajgje of palpable imper 
fection against Jehovah and j\yould make 
himja deceiver and violator of his oath and 

'I his doctrine of election has been tram 
pled underfoot, by many who prpfess to 
be called of God to preach the gospel of 
peace, and it has been said b> some ol them 
that the doctrine of election, and God's 
ptcrnal purpose, in saving the elect, had 

its first origin in the dark regions among 
the devils. It isconsidered by many lo be 
unworthy of a close examination, as worthy 
of no more regard, than t > be called the 
doctrine of devils, which bring lo our mind 
the persecutions of Chri-i, when he cast 
out devils, it was said he )>ad a devil, and 
cast out devils thro' the prince of devils; & 
accused him of blasphemy and said, he is 
guilty of death Melhinks 1 can behold the 
forbearance of the Saviour and his humble 
prgrepts to his disciples saying; The dis- 
ciple is not. above his master, nor the ser- 
vant above his Lord. If they have called 
the master of the house Beelzebub, hovy 
much m {,, e shall they call them of his 
household. It is also declared to be an 
enemv to the work of godliness. Oh may 
we adopt the language of Jnde, 9 v. Yet M l- 
chael the archangel when contending with 
the devil, he disputed about the body of 
Moses, durst not bring against him a railing 
accusation, but said, the Lord rebuke ihep. 
(hit these spgak evil of those things which 
they know not, but what they know natu- 
rally, as brute beasts, in those things 'hey 
corrupt themselves 

Again we will adopt the language of 
Paul. 1 Tim 6 c. 3 v. If any man teach 
otherwise, and consent not to wholesome 
words, even the words of our Lord Jesus 
Christ, -and to the doctrine which is accord. 
ing to godliness He is proud knowing 
npthing. but doting about questions, and 
strifes of words, whereof cometh envy 
strife, railings, evil surmisings, perverse 
disputiiiiS, of men of corrupt minds, apd, 
destitute ol the trulii Isaiah 8 c. 20 v. 
To the law and to the testimony: If they 
-.peak not accoiditlg to this word, it is be r 
cause theie is no light in them. Isaiah, SOc 
1 v and from S to 13, Wo tp the re-beT 
lions .children, sai'h the Lord, that take 
counsel, but not of me: and that cover with 
a covering, but not of my Spirit, that they 
may add sin to sin: Now go write jt before 
them in a table, and note it in a book, that 
it may be for the time to come for ever 
and ever: That this is a rebellious people, 




jy'ing children, children that will not hear 
the word of the Lord: Which say to the 
seers, See not; and to the prophets. Proph- 
esy notunio us right things, speak unto us 
smooth things, prophesy deceits: Get you 
out of the way, turn aside out of the path, 
Cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from 
before us. Wherefore thus saith the Holy 
One of Israel, Because ye despise this 
word, and trust in oppression and perverse- 
ness. and s-l«y thereon: Therefore this 

still I am not tired of reading the commu- 
nications of my brethren, and I hope the 
brethren are nottjred of wiiting, although 
it must be discouraging to the printer to 
see so many discontinuances. 

Brethren and sisters, I think with a lit- 
tle more exertion vyeean sustain the paper. 
It is very true we cannot compel any per- 
son to subscribe for them, but I wish the 
paper kept up. Brethren can write their 
doctrinal views of the plan and scheme of 

, ,i ■ u i i salvation, and their experiences, and their 

iniquity shall be to you as a breach ie>d\ • ' ■ ■ . ' ' l ' 

jto fall, swelling out in a high wall,, whos>' 
freaking come,th suddenly at an instant. 


trials; churches through their clerk, speak 
of their travel; preachers can have their ap- 
pointments published, &c. I would suggest 
another idea, let the clerks of the different 
Associations of the Primitive order, after 
the adjournment of their respective Asso- 
ciations, sendona copy of their proceedings 
to be published; then we should have a 
history of the proceedings of the Associa- 
tions throughout the United States, all of 
which would be a satisfaction to the people 
of God while in this world of sin and sor- 

And now, brethren, suffer a word of ex- 



flalifax county, Va. ? 
sJlug. 12, 1846. I 
Dear Brethren: Having to send on my row. 
remittance for my papers, I thought \ 

would write a few linesto the agents, and j hortation. First, I would say to the min- 
readers of the Primitiye Baptist, to stir up j jsters of God's word, be faithful in preach- 
your pure minds by way of remembrance, J n g for God, and the good of souls; take 
for fear the paper would be discontinued heed to yourselves and to the doctrine; 
altogether. | continue jn them, for in doing this thou 

Dear brethren and sisters, I can say of a shall save thyself and them that hear thee, 
truth that I am always glad when the time 1st Tim. iv. 16. Feed the flock of God 
rolls round for me to get my paper. I which is among you, taking the oversight 
can from this source hear from the breth- thereof, not by constraint but willingly; 
pen jn yarjoys quarters throughout the no t for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; 
United States, and the prosperity of Zion. neither as being lords over God's herit- 
We read in tbe word of God, they that age, but being ensamples to the flock. 
feared the Lord spake often one to anoth- : And when the chief shepherd shall appear 
pr, and the Lord hearkened and heard it, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fa- 
and a book of remembrance was written dsth not away. 1st Pet. v. ch. 2, 3,4 ver- 
before him for them that feared the Lord ses. Your work is of great importance, 
and thought upon his name. j h'u,t the reward is sure; and when you shall 

Speak, brethren, through the papers pne have filled up the measure of your days 
to another; speak of the goodness of the ' here on earth, God will take you to hinir 
Lord, and of his wonderful works to the self on high. Therefore, my beloved breth- 

children of men. Let us not be weary in 
well doing, but exhort one another daily 
to love and to good works. My bible I 
hold in preference tq all other books, and 
hold its sacred contents most dear. But 


ren, be ye steadfast, unmoveable, always 
abounding in the work of the Lord, for as 
much as ye know that your labor is not in 
vain in the Lord. 1st Cor. xv. 58. 

And I would say to the private member? 



of the church, brethren and sisters, be care- 
ful to attend your church meetings; don't 
let little things keep you from the house 
of God; be careful to maintain good works; 
let your light shine before men that they 
may see your good works, and glorify your 
Father which is in heaven. Not that I 
believe there is any merit in any, perfor- 
mance that you can do, but it is an evi- 
dence of a change from nature to grace, 
and from death unto life; for by grace are 
ye saved through faith, and that not of 
yourselves: it is the gift of God. Eph. ii. 
8. And this grace was given the church 
in Christ Jesus before the world began. 
When I speak of the church, I don't mean 
the meeting house; I mean the mystical bo- 
dy of Christ. Those that are born of the 
spirit of God; flesh of his flesh and bone of 
his bane. The church of Christ is spoken 
of under the idea of living stones, a spirit- 
ual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up 
spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God by 
Jesus Christ. 1st Pet. ii. 5. 

With these remarks I stop for the pres- 


Columbus, M'SS ~) 
July 9/h, 1>46. S 

Dear Brkthren: By reqm si I wrote out 
my views of \hejtne Points, without any 
design of having them printed, but 1 send 
them on. Should you think them to be of 
any use at this time, use them at your pleas 

Frsf, Predestination 2nd, Total deprn 
vity. 3rd, Effectual calling. 4th, Par 
ticular redemption. 5th. Certain persr- 

We know thfre is too much written and 
published on both sides of the old contro- 
versy, that is for, or against, Jirminian- 
ism, and Calvinism, and as the lader ap- 
pears to oe much overrun in this our pres- 
ent day, and as the truth appears to be ve- 
ry much on its side, why not say some- 
thing on its behalf? We should take heed 
to the things the Lord hath spoken by his 
inspired Prophets and Apostles. And if 

some twist or tangle the scriptures to sub- 
serve a purpose, or gain proselytes, we 
should earnestly contend for the faith once 
delivered to the saints. I did nut intend 
casing stories, or putting stumbling blocks 
in any body's way, but must make this re- 
mark, that an empty barrel sounds the 
First, Predestination. Why should any 
body deny this, and yet believein the fore- 
k now ledge of God To deny the prescience 
ol' <!od would he to deny his existenee. 
But to the scripture declarations. Isaiah, 
47 <h 9 and 10 1 am God and there is 
none else: an God and there rs none 
hue me.' 'Declaring the end bom the be- 
giunii.g/ See Acts, 2. 23: Jesus of 
Nazareth, 'being delivered by the deter- 
minate counsel and foreknowledge of God, 
ye have 'ak^n and bv wicked hands have 
crucified and slam ' A^ain, Acts, 15 13: 
'Known unto Gnjjare all his works from 
the beginning of the world. God's fore- 
know!- dg^ being infinite and unchangea- 
ble, dot s not thereby make him the author 
of .-in, or the murderous Jews might have 
had an excuse when the apostle Peter 
charged it on them, that they by wicked 
hands had crucified and slain the Lord Je- 

Now then it will b j admitted that fore 
knowle tge had no influe >ce on their fault. 
Now if one thing, iiem, hair, or sparrow, 
was foreknown, all things v\ere; and if it 
were not so, it would be all uncertainly 
from beginning to end. Prophesy would 
be i'^l^e. useless and vain. But (ioD sits 
on no uncertain throne, no contingency can 
disturb nis repose: Being infinitely wise, 
he knows the past, the future, as well as the 
present now. God then is the first cause of 
all things, for we read (Col. I. 16.) 'all 
things were created by him and for him.' 
The cause has its effect, the effect may pro- 
duce a second cause, so we may say theie 
is a succession of cause and effect, a series 
of cause and effects following one another, 
a* in the case of Joseph and his brethren, 
Jtsus Christ and all his saints. Let us 



hear St. Paul's inspired reason on the sub- 
ject. Rom. 8. 29 Eph. 1.11: 'For whom 
he did foreknow he did also predestinate — 
predestinated according to the purpose ot 
him who worketh all thing* after the coun 
pel of his own will.' 

This then is predestination in the ab 
stract point. Let us now consider it as the 
effect of a cause. That cause was previ 
ous determination, or a resolve in the mind 
of God, to counsel, and accomplish his de- 
signs of love and mercy in the plan of sal- 
vation to man. The prophet says, '1 ha\re 
loved thee with an everlasting love, and 
therefore with loving kindness have I 
drawn thee.' (0, how humiliating and 
consoling, to the believers to think that the 
Lord Iesus should have thoughts of mercy 
and peace toward them, whilst as yet they 
had no earthly existence.) 'For whom he 
did foreknow he also did predestinate to be 
conformed to ihe image of his Son.' We 
read in Acts, 13. 48: 'A* many as were 
ordained to eternal life believed.' St Pe- 
ter uses the word elect, and thus begins his 
first epistle: 'Elect according to the fore- 
knowledge of God. Thus we see, predes- 
tination runs parallel with election. Elec- 
tion is to choose from among and before 
hand. Paul was a chosen vessel unto God. 
'Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I haled.' 
(Esau was profane. ) Now you may see. 
that it is much better to be in the hands of 
that Heing, who is unerringly wise, and 
sees all the downward tracts of time, and 
regulates our ways; than to be in the hand 
of blind chance, (so to speak,) where all is 
uncertainty and disorder. Although God 
knows all the fatesof men, why should that 
dishearten us, but raiher encourage us to 
trust in his name; like good old Job said. 
although hf slay me yet will I trust in him 
SoCromwell disciplined his soidiersto trust 
in God: but keep their powder dry. So I 
dismiss this point, by a few more scripture 
sayings: Thus our eternal happiness being 
provided for, our holiness is next promoted 
'This is a faithful saying, and these things 
1 will that thou affirm constantly, that they 

who have believed in God, might be care- 
ful to maintain good works: these things 
are good and profitable unto men. Tit. 3. 
8. Hut -God is in one mind and who can 
turn him. ' 

The 2d point, Total Depravity. The 
great Creator pronounced all thing" good, 
as coming from his pure hand. Adam and 
Eve made in the image of God did not 
thereby give them the full attributes of 
God. or they might have had creative pow- 
er as God, and given law as God But not 
so, they were creatures, and free actors; 
nor did not blame their Maker, or their 
making They were capable of keeping 
the law. but liable to fail, which they ac- 
knowledged. But Adam, though free, by 
a train of circumstances which he could not 
foresee or prevent, failed in his obedience 
to the law, and so incurred the penalty 
which was death. His failure caused his 
bankruptcy, which was so total, when 
called loan account, as Job says he could 
not answer one sin of a thousand; therefore 
he had to ask favors by calling on God to 
havewerc^. So our representative at the 
court of heaven who transacted the busi- 
ness for us, forfeited uor bond, and subject- 
ed us all, to death, to sin, and total deprav- 
ity. So to say with Milton, Adam's 
crimp, made guilty all his sons. 

See the picture before Noe's flood. 
Gen. 11. 5. 'And God saw that the wick- 
edness of man was great in the earth, and 
that every imagination of the thoughts of 
his heart was only evil continually.' Not 
someiiiries good and sometimes evil, but 
continually evil, totally depraved in his 
purposes and de*ires. The total man as 
the prophet has it from the crown of the 
head to the sole of the foot. And as the 
ptophet says (of every unrenewed heart,) 
desperately wicked who can know it. Jesus 
says, (Luke, 9 60 ) 'Let the dead bury 
the dead.* In a state of nature totally dead 
as to spiritual life. The apostles were 
taught by the spirit, said the same things. 
See Eph. 2 1, 2, 3. Dead in trespasses 
and sins. James, 3. 8: 'Full of deadly 



poison.' See the many various scripture 
representations to (he same point; lost, 
ruined, in the pit where there is no water, 
in the open field of ruin, helpless, standing 
guilty before Gon, indebted ten thousand 
talents, nothing to pay, blind, halt, and 
maimed, in a waste howling wilderness, 
in this situation they need a Saviour. It 
is the sick man that needs the good physi- 
cian's cure. A just God, and Saviour, no 
where else to be found, but in Christ Je- 
sus, the Lord. 

Now let us pass on to the Third Point, 
effectual calling. The short meaning of 
this, effectual calling, is whereby those to 
tally depraved and lost sinners savingly 
believe and obey the gos])el. Called effec- 
tually, awaked, the dead faculties of the 
soul quickened and made alive by the Spir- 
it and power of Gon, called from nature's 
darkness, to the. marvelous light, and liber- 

and clime. Klection is known by the ef- 
fectual calling. Adam after he fell was 
blind, but the Lord called him, and gave 
hi rn promise of a better Paradise than he 
lost. Abel was called and given faith to> 
offer an acceptable sacrifice. Enoch was 
called to walk with God and then called to> 
heaven. Noah was called to preach right- 
eousness, and was saved in the ark from 
being drowned. Abraham was called from 
his father's idolatrous house, and believed 
in God and it was imputed to him for 
righteousness. Isaac, Jacob, and Job, 
were called to the same faith, with an in- 
numerable company of aid saints. 

Christ says, before Abraham was •! am.* 
See Heb. 13. 8. Jesus Christ, the same 
yesterday, to day and forever. The apos- 
tles were called to be apostles and saints 
with Cornelius, Lydia, and many others. 
See Cor. 1. 26. "For ye see your call<- 

ty of the gospel, being predestinated and ing. "brethren, how that not many wise 
loved with an everlasting love before the men after the &e*h, not manv mighty, not 
world began. Now this love is made many noble are called." Jesus Christ, 
manifest, and believing they rejoice. So the same to day, calling whosoever he will. 
the virgin Mary said, my soul doth magni- The blind, the deaf, and those dead in trea- 
fy the Lord, and my spirit hath rejoiced in passes and in sins, calls them to be saints, 
God my Saviour. (Luke, 1. 46 ) Some and followers of the h.amb. Strangers 
times it is called an holy calling, as in 2, and pilgrims, elect according to the fore- 
Tim. 1. 0: 'Who hath called us (all the knowledge of God. Calls and sanctifies 
saints) with an holy calling, not according them, works in them to will and do accor- 
to our works, but according to his own ding to his good pleasure, 
purpose and grace which was given us in Now in this effectual calling something 
Christ Jesus before the world began.' So must be known and felt- The Lord pre- 
we see how \\\\s point agrees wiih the oth. pares the heart (man may prepare the hetrd.) 
ers— called to be saints,' (Cor.l. 2 ) Those Who has this good experience, a white 
who are called effectually, are called to re- stone and in the stone a new name written 
ceive gifts— 'the gift of God is eternal life, which no man knoweth, save be that re- 

through J KSUS < HRIST OUT LORD ' 

oeiveth it; or can say, whereas 1 was blind 

Jesus Christ while here on earth, went but now 1 see. Every one who sees sal- 
about doing good, effectually calling, heal- vation must be born again. Many are 
ing and blessing whom he would. The called, but few are chosen, this runs into 

lepers were cleansed, the deaf heard, the 
dumb spake, the blind see, the lame leap 
for joy. Devils are cast out, the dead re- 
stored to life, the lost found. This is an 
emblematical representation of sinners in a 
state of nature, dead in trespasses and sins, 
and this is the case of man in every age 


the fourth point. 

Particular Redemption. Particular, 
not general; something that makes to dif- 
fer, from something else; as Paul asked the 
question, 1 Cor. 4. 7. "Who makelh 
thee to differ from another?" The answer 
would be redeeming grace, Now the sun 



rises otl the evil and the good, and the rain 
is sent on the/ftS? and the unjust. We 
see that mankind are classed into two parts, 
just and unjust, saint and sinner, and often 
the difference is so small it is hardly distin 
guishable, but the Lord knows them that 
are his. Hut to lake another start. lo 
redeem, to deliver sinners from the power 
of sin, satan, and death and hell by the pur 
chase of Christ's blood. Christ then is the 
Redeemer, and has the best right, as he 

law, being made a curse for Us/ Gal. 3. 
13 Christ laid down his life lor his 
sheep, and though his flock is always 
small, when he culls, they hear his voice 
and follow him, and he gives unto them 
eternal life, and they shall never perish, 
neither shall any man pluck them out of 
my hands. 

If 1 were to believe in a general redemp- 
tion, or a general atonement, I should he a 
Universalist, and think finally all might be 

paid the greatest, price and has the highest redeemed; for it would reflect on the wis- 
power. The apostle says, I Pet 1. 18: (lorn and love, justice and power of God, 
Ye were not redeemed with corruptible, to assume humanity, and die for all, and 
things, as silver or gold, but with the pre not have means or power to save all. But 
cious blood of Christ. Now we admit hell redemption is not a link of our chain, 
that Christ made a complete atonement. Fallen men are represented as owing a 
and I cannotsee how it could be general, debt. which they cannot never pay; if.lE» 
or universal, without destroying the har- st/s Christ paid ihe debt for them, their 
mony of the attributes of (ion bond is cancelled, and as Elisha said, (Job. 

• Now as we are called ratiohal creatures. 33 24.) 'Deliver him from going down to 
let us reason a little on tins important point.' the pit, I have found a ransom.' an atone- 
lsa 53. 6, not all the verse. -The Lord ment, no other name under heaven where- 
hath laid on him, the iniquities of us all.' by men can be saved. But 1 will dismiss 
This all does not mean all mankind, — the this point, with a verse of the poet's: 
prophet did not conclude that way. Nor 

did he promise that way. See how he 
(the prophet) begins the chapter: V\ ho 
hath believed oar report,' or declaration of 
the Messiah, none did but those believers, 
to whom the arm ol the Lord was revealed. 
And so the prophet, concludes; 'He (allu- 
ding to I hrist) should justify many, for he i Let us take Walker for the definition of 

If thou hast my discharge procured, 
And freely in my room endured, 

The whole of wrath divine, 
Payment God cannot twice demand, 
First at my bleeding surety's hand, 

And then again at mine. 

The fifth point — certain perseverance^ 

shall bear their iniquities.' Not all, or it 
might not have been said in verse 12; 
'Therefore wilH divide him a portion 
( I'he Lord's portion is his people) wiih the 
great, and he shall divide the spoil with 

the word perseverance, who says it is, not 
to give over a design. That will do, and 
it accords with the scripture doctrine of 
certain perseverance, which is a link of the 
same ehain, in the plan of salvation. God 

the strong.' Jind he bore the sins of is said to be immutable in his designs, of 

many, But the prophet concludes, that 
•the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper jn 
his hand. He shall see of. the travail of 

love and mercy. — having his own he loved 
them to the end. I know there are many 
objectois to this doctrine, but 1 did not de- 

his soul, and shall be satisfied.' The same sign to answer objections, but to quote 
prophet, lsa. 56: 8. 9. speaks of away of! scripture proofs, in confirmation of this 
holiness. The unclean shall not pass over point. See John, 10. 27, 2S. 'My sheep 

it, but the redeemed shall walk there.' So 
in the New Testament also, redemption is 
made out as a particular thing. Thus 
'Christ redeemed us from the curse of the 

hear my voice, and 1 know them and they 
follow me, and I give unto them eternal 
life and they shall never perish, neither 
shall any man pluck them outof my hands.' 



John, 14. 19. 'As 1 live ye shall live also.' 
Can there be any stronger language than 
this? The mauler s;iid it, the servants re 
peat it, who can g unsay it? Rom. 2 2H: 
•And we know that all things woi k tojieth 
er fur good to them that love God, to ihem 
who are the called according to his pin- 
pose.' Thus Pawl reasons and proves up 
predestination, and effectual calling and 
perseverance. See his question, (verse 33,) 
'Who shall lay any thing to the charge of 
GoD*seleet?' 'Who ishelhat condemns? 
It is Christ that died,' &c. So Paul eon 
eludes that the saints, fhe Christians, shall 
be mote than conquerors; nothing to sepa- 
rate fhem from the love of God. which is 
in Christ Jesus our Lord.' The work 
which his love has begun, his power will 
complete; for his promise is yea and amen, 
s<d never was forfeited. Th^n, those 
who have the earnest of the spirit, will fi- 
nally persevere. And though all nature 
should change, not one of God's promises 
can fail. Yours in Christian love. 



prohibited from eating of the tree of life** 
but had free access to every tree in the gar- 
den, only one excepted, which was the' 
tree of knowledge of good and evil. Note' 
this also, that the tree of life grew in the 
midst of the garden. Now this tree of life 
which grew in the midst of the garden of* 
Paradise, Was a lively figure of Christ. 
You know when Adam fell, God turned 
him out of the garden of Eden, and he 
planted at the east of the garden cheru- 
bims and a flaming sword, that turrie'el 
every way to keep the way of the tree' of 
life, lest he put forth his hand, and take 
also of the tree of life and eat and live for' 

Now 1st, I shall notice the c'hefrio'ims 
and flaming sword, being planted at the 
east of the garden. We all know that 
any thing planted is securely fixt, and why 
at the east of the garden? why, to show 
that the sun of righteousness should arise 
in the east with healing in his Wings, and' 
should illuminate the world by his healing 
and warming influence. 

2nd, I shall notice the cherubims, and 
flaming sword which turned every way, to 
keep the way of the tree of life, &c. Now 
cherubims, represent angels, and afrgels, 
were figurative of the prophets & apostles, 
and also of God's trae ministers of the 
gospel, under the New Testament dispen- 

| Ration, till time shall end. 

Hickry Grove, Bibb county, Ga. > 
\Oth June, 1846. S 
Dear Brethren in the Lord: I feel 
again just like Elihuonce did in the case 

of Job, to act my part and show you my 

. . „*„•„ „ *:„„ „,r =„..;„. ,,..0 3rd, I shall notice this naming sword, 

opinion, on a certain portion 01 scripture' ' « » 

which reads as follows: Genesis, 3rd. 22 which turned eve, T war to f*fe the way 

r. And the Lord God said, behold, the of the tree of ''fe, lest man should put forth 

. ■ r ,,„ tn l„„,., n-r.r.,1 hishand,&c. This flaming sword repre- 

man is become as one 01 us, to know good ' e v 

, ., ,; 1 . 1 _ „,. f„„ t u u;» sents nothing more nor less than God's 

and evil, and now lest fie put torth his s 

hand, and take also of the tree of life, and holy and righteous law, which man had 

eat and live forever,- 23 v. Therefore the vlolated and fallen mider lts curse> ' and ' en ' 

Lord God sent him forth from the garden ^^ come short of the glory of Godl 

of Eden, to till the ground from whence he 4th, I shall try to show some of the 

, . . . o , j,._„„ „,,t t u schemes and plans which man has hunted 

was taken. 24 v. bo he diove out the, t 

jl » .„j „t iu^ t i n f iho mr up to try to put forth his hand 1 , &c. Cain 
man, and he planted at the east ot the gar- r ■ J r ' 

j c r< \ „w„...,u; m o onrl o fl im in>T wa\s the first that started to come to this 

den of Eden, cherubims, and a naming ,.,'",, 

j l- l : 1 ..,„,r 4^ir 0£ ,,-.fWo tree 01 life, he reached out his hand, but 

sword which turned every way, to keep the ' ' _ 

way of the tree of life. 

you see he failed. Next we find the phari- 

.~f,.,~ „r,t*A »rooo ' saical Jews made a very bold start indeed, 
Now we find there were two noted trees , , , , , , 

1 j cttm t\ t „„„„n;r n „„/i : and what did they do? they made broad 

n the garden of Eden, the tree of life and _ J- * 

the tree of knowledge of good and evil. lhe "' and enlarged the borders 
So now in the first instance Adam was not j ° f their garments; and for a pretence made 


!ong prayers, and sounded a horn at the J Moses Op on the Mount and showed him a 
Corners of the streets when they went to! pattern of the tabernacle and all the furni- 
give alms, so we find they failed to get to ture pertaining to the ceremonial worship, 
this tree. so after he had shown him the whole, he 

5th, I shall now come down to the New gave him a strict charge, for see said he, 
Testament, or gospel dispensation, and no- that thou make all things according to the 
ticeafew plans among us to try to get to pattern shewed to thee in the Mount, 
this tree of life. So now as the Arminian All this, I think, goes to convince all 
plan appears to be the most familiar to us, unprejudiced minds, that the God of heav- 
1 shall give it a passing notice. They tell en has devised a plan for the salvation of 
Us that we must begin to pray and keep at ! lost, wretched, miserable, and dead sin- 
it, and God will meet us on the half way ners — yea, dead in trespasses and sins — > 
ground, and so we shall be sure to get to through the instrumentality of the preach- 
this tree, if we do not fall from grace. : ing of the gospel, being the most ordinary 

6th, I shall notice one more very broad means to the awakening sinners and bring- 
plan to get to this tree of life, and then (lis- ing them from nature to grace, from dark- 
miss the subject of the tree, and try to say ness lo light, and translating them into the 
a little something about God's plan. Now glorious kingdom of Christ. Fortheapos- 
there are many plans fixt to get to this tie says, by grace are ye saved through 
tree of life. The wide plan is to come to faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the 
this tree by baptism. They tell us that a gift of God; not of works, lest any man 
little water thrown In your face is just as should boast, &c. 

good as to put you entirely under. Oth- Now it is as much impossible for poor 
ers say it is better to take a horn or pitch- puny man to undertake to form any other 
er, and pour it on the top of the head. This plan one side of God's plan, in order to get 
is their way of getting to this tree by bap- to the tree of life, as it would be for him 
tism. Now I could fill a volume with to rise and take a voyage to the moon, 
thissubject, but my limits will not let me But the natural mind of the human family 
do it. has ever been fruitful, hewing for them- 

7th, God has devised a plan, and that selves cisterns and broken cisterns too, 
from eternity, whereby sinners can be which never can hold any water, 
freely justified from all things, by which So now I must conclude for lack of 
they could not be justified by the law of room. I now shall give you in the close, 
Moses, and freely come to this tree of some of my homespun poetry in confirma- 
life which is Christ. By repentance to- tion of God's plan in the salvation of sin- 
ward God and faith in him who is their ners, yea'the worst of sinners. 

great law fulfill er, or the propitiation for r », '"'•:.■» „.,„„ :♦ ,„:n «,„j„..„ 
& " v Uod s covenant sure, it will endure, 

their sins, as also the end of the law for \ t? * tu„ n ^ 

' b rom age to age the same; 

righteousness to every one that believeth, i n . /■ • r 

" f 'J O come and see, his grace is free, 

to the Jew first and also to the Greek, he . , , - r »• 

. ' I And glorily his name. 

is the power of God unto salvation. r . 

Again, John theRevelator tells us, that 1 ^heme was laid the covenant made, 

, ■ r . i-vr i Before the world began; 

he saw a pure rtver ot water ol life, clear • . & ' 

i.i i- , r .. ., r This plan of grace, we now can trace*, 

aschrystal proceeding out of the throne of ' , 

n j i-ftu. i.»i t ,u •] . r\ Before he made a man. 

God and ot the L,a«ib. In the midst ol 

the street of it, and on either side of the 1 This good old way, we think and say,, 

river, was there the tree of life, which 
bare twelve manner of fruits, and )'ielded 
her fruit every month, and the leaves of the 
tree were for the healing of the nations. 
Once more, we learn that God crlled 

Will save the chosen seed^ 
This gracious plan, is sure to man, 

And truly safe indeed. 
This is the way, we boldly say, 

The prophets trod of old; 



This way is straight, and so is the gate, 
Which truly makes us bold. 

This covenant strong, has lasted' long, 

From age to" age the same; 
We love this grace, our hiding place?- 

And glorify his name. 

Who fixt the plan, for dying man; 

To' shun eternal pain; 
That he might be, from sin set free',- 

And rise and live again. 


iftppdinhhenis for Elders Parhatn Puck- 
et and D. J. Mott. 
At Red Banks, 29th October; 30th, at 
Great Swamp; 3 1st, St Flat Swamp; 1st 
Nov. atSpting Green; 3nd, at Baregrass; 
3rd, at Skewarkey; 4th? at Fic'ot's; 5th, at 
Morattock; 6th, at White Chape}; 7th 1 aiid 
8th, at Concord; 9th, at Angeley's; 10th, 
at Bethlehem; IJth, at Sound Side'; l2th, 
at.l/ittle Alligator; 15th, at PoWel's Point; 
16th, at Coenjoerk; 17th, at Sawyer's 
Creek; ISth, at William ForbesV, 1 9th, at 
Flalty Creek; 2- 1st, at Sawyer's Creek; 
22nd, at Coenjock; 2f4th, at Jame3 BVin- 
son's 1 ; 25th, at Peticogtfe; 26th, at Roanoke 
Island: 28th and 29th, at PWe'l's- Point; 
1st, Dee", at Lake Alligator; 2nd, at Sound 
Side; 3rd, at Bethlehem; 4th, at Angeley's; 
5th and 5th, at Concord; 7th, art White 
Chapel; 8th, at Morattock. 

i matmm ■ 



North Carolina. C.B.Hassell, Wi lliarnstoi, 
R. M.G. Moore, Gtrmanton. W. w.MiZe\\,Ply- 
mouth. Benjr Bynum, Nahunta Depot, H.\ve- 
Ta r flvcrasb()ro\ Bnrwell Temple, Raleigh Thos, 
Bagley , Smithfield. James H. Sasser, Waynes- 
boro 1 . L. B. Bennett, Healhaille. Cor's (^ana- 
Hay, Cravensvifle William Welch, M6of-t , s 
Creek, A, B. Bains, Jr. Stanhope. €. T. Saw- 
yer, Powells Point. H. Wilkers.m, JF,**/ Point J. 
Miller, Mi Hon Park. Isaac Meekins arid Samuel 
Rogers* Columbia, Wrrn M. Rushing, While's 
Sime. .lames H. Smith, Wilmington, Jacob Her- 
ring, Go/dsboro 1 ', S, Tatum. Elizabeth City, Ad 
am Hooker, Salem Church, Afener Lamb, Cam- 
den V. Hi 

South Carolina. Wm, S. Shaw, Hncl< MMy 
W. B. Villard, Sr, Aiken. M.McGraw. «™»'»' 
J. Li Simpson, Wtnjtsbord' , Ii U, Rowers. Whip- 
py Swamp, Wmi Nelson, Camden, (>. Vial 
thews, Germanvil/e. J ® Lucas, Lexington C, 11 
Amos Hill, Pleasant View. 

Georgia. John McKenney, Forsyth. Thoma£ 
Amis, Lexington. John M, Field, Macon. Johrf 
W. Turner, Pleasant Hill. Wlliam Trice anrf 
William D.Taylor, Thomasfon. Ezra McCrary* 
Warrenton. Prior Lewis, Thomasvil/e; T. Las,- 
setter, Fernon. Ahner Durham, Greenville, Geo. 
Leeves, Milledgevi/le. W.J.Parker, CKenuba. J,P. 
Ellis, Pinevi/ie, F.Ha^gafd,^M,««s. A.M.Thomp- 
sorii Fort Valley, Daniel O' NeelytiliveGrove. John' 
Wayne, Cain , s, R, S. Hafffrick, Carroll/on. D* 
Smith, Coal Spring Moses H. Denman, Maiettar. 
Jethro (Dates, Mulberry Grope, fsham Edwafsp,' 
Marion. Joseph! Daniel, Fish's. R, L. Hayne,' 
Lebanon. T. w. Dearing, Cotton River. E/ Davis.- 
Gretn Hill* 

Alabama 5 .- ' A.Keaton, BelmMt. H.Darice arid 1 
W. B'rzi'ell, Eutaw. E.Belf, Liberty Hill: JV 
G.Walker, Milton; H.Williams, Havana,- J. 
Daniel, Claiborne, E. Daniel, Church Hill,; I. 
Carpenter, Si 1 . Clinton, J. McQueen, Low'ndesb'or'd' / 
Wm.Tafley, Mourit Moriah, Ef UpchurcTr, Bene- 
void. S. HWrick. Fldnters'ville. JameS S7 Mor- 
gan, Dayton. Rufus Daniel, Jdmestori, J'oelHr 
Chambless, Lowevilte. F. Pickett, China Grover 
John w. Pellum, Franklin, Johri i Barrel!, Mis, 1 
souri. Wm. Thomas, Gainer's Store. E. M < A V -" 
mas, Midway Allen Moore, Intercourse, Johtf 
Bryan, Sr. Fullersville, Benj : . Lloyd", Wetuttflfta 
N, N.Ba/moTe, Mill Pert, A. Ha'tley, PMllala. 
Vr'ncefrt Williams, Mobile. Young SYni'th'. Eufau- 
la T. J. Foster, Bclfts Landing. H'eriry Cason, 
Monticello. Henry Petty, P'ickenni'iUe. D. Rv 
P. Kins', PdinesviVh, .form' whitehead, Jr. Plea* 
sant Mlains. M W. Helms, ffridgeville. Elly 
J B. Turner, Jffibtmlti, l^'ma-; Townsend, Fork* 
\land. Rooert Grady, Bluff Port R. R. Thomp' 
isou, Cenfrevit/e ■ .Pa'ines F. ■ Gemtva. . 
Tennksske Michael BurkhaltpV, ^itwer^^tA'f 
doom, Jdeksori. Solomon Ruth, Wesley fra E*.- 
Douthit, Lynchburg. i; P0 . L'nr"iWl , < H'arerly? 
Henry Randolph. Snodysvi/le, Pleasant A Witt,. 
Rugsehille, William McBee, Old Town Cree/e,- 
A. Bnfronghs, Moore's X Roads. J#mes Sfteltdn, 
Porters'ville Shar!rnr-h MsVstain, Lewi.sburg,- Na- 
thart ft. Mr.D'welK Tuiemll, Henry Tufner,- Fay-- 
cttevllle. Isaac Motor*. ' Ripley,- James Sailing. 
Bull Run ^ 

[Other Agents'' tta'mes omitted fhi's No.} 


Max'n Tatum-. $1 
Wright Smith, 1 
Patience Hinesy 1 
W. W. Mizzel'l', I 
Richard Peae'ocfe, t 

Stand ly Duggatiy $ 
Thos. Biggs,- $ 

S. B. WdliaTnsv i 


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Saturday in each month, at One Dollar p>r year. 
Five Dollars will pa'y fc/r six copies srtfiscfihed' 
for by any one person. fftffrVhl harrk note.* 
where sohscribers reside will be received i'rt pay- 
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Letters and eommtinioations should be post paid, 
and directed to "Editors Primitive Baptist, Tar- 
Vroujfh, N. C." 

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Edited by: primitive (ok oi>i> sciiooi,) baptists. 

Printed and Published by George Howard, 


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Vol. if. 


No. 11. 



Of the Kehjikce Baptist Association, 
held at Williams's rri. h. Edgecombe 
county, N. C, commencing Saturday 
before the list Sunday in October, A. 

D. l'sHe. . 

... SATURDAY, Oct. 3rd, 1846: 
1. The Introductory Sermon was deliv- ^ Luie/apd Elders Ichabod Moore and 
ered by Elder Blount Cooper, from 1st 

6. Petitionary letters for., membership 
in this Association were called for/ but 
none were received. 

7. Letters of correspondence and cor- 
responding delegates were called for, when 
a file of Minutes from the White Oak As- 
sociation was handed in by their delegate. 
Elder Josiah Smith; Elder John Stadler 
handed in a file of Minutes from the Coun- 

epistle of Peter, 5" chapter and 8, 9, and 10 

2. The delegates from the several chur- 
ches then assembled, and the Association 
was" opened, with prayer by Elder C. B. 
Hasseil, s and proceeded to business; when 
Elder William Hyman was chosen Moder- 

John Smith handed in a file of Minutes 
from the Contentnea Association. 

On motion, the following Preamble and 
Resolutions were adopted: 

Whereas, that portion of the Circular 
Letter attached to our Minutes for the 
year 1844, treating on the subject of min- 
isterial support, has not been well received 

ator, and B'rb: Joseph D. Biggs Clerk, who | b - v some of our brethren > who have con- 
called to his assistance Elder C. B. Hassei | 8tmed ;'?, .differently from other some; 

3. Brethren in the ministry from sister therefore 
Associations, (of the same faith and order,) , ^s«lved, That we wish it distinctly 

were invited to seats with us, when Elders 

understood, by all, that we disavow any 

Johh'Stadler from the Country Line; Jo^i indention in said Circular, to either build 
siah'Sr^ith and D! j; Mott, from the White 1 HP ° r , eilc0LII ' a ge a gospel ministry by un 
Oak; Ichabod Moore and John Smith, from 

the Contentnea; and Burrell Temple, from 
the Little River Association, seated them- 

41 On motion, the Rules of Decorum 
were read. 

$. Letters from 31 churches were hand- 
ed in, read, the names of the delegates en- 
rolled, and the, representation stated in the 
table of churches. 

Elders Moore and Mott, were request- 
ed to occupy the stage to-day. 

lawful means; and that it is foreign to our 
design to predicate a preached gospel on a 
monied foundation. And as such seems 
to have been the inference drawn by some, 
we now frankly say to such, that we in- 
tended to declare no such sentiments by 
the adoption of said Circular Letter.' . 

Resolved, That we believe the minister 
of the gospel, to be the servant and ambas- 
sador of God; and as such must look imme- 
diately to his Lord and master for all kinds 
pf support and reward, while in the excr- 



cise of his vocation. But as in the wisdom 
of God he designs to give temporal sup- 
port to his ministering servant, through 
the medium of the church, (and not super- 
haturally as he does spiritual aid,) there- 
fore the minister may indirectly look to 
the church for that kind of encouragement, 
and it is the bounden duty of the church 
to attend to it, being thereunto required 
by the laws of her king. 

Individual members of the church being 
moved by the Holy Spirit of God to ad- 
minister to the temporal necessities of his 
ambassador, not by constraint or grudg- 
ingly, but of a ready and willing mind, 
by doing so, act under the direction of the 
Almighty, whose they are and whom they 
serve, and the minister thus receiving a 
portion of his reward, receives it, it is true.* 
indirectly from the church, but. directly 

Names of churches and 

counties wherein 



to 5bi fci t*r Ca 

<§ *l ?• s? i s 

S3- c- Or- 

1 Beargrass, Martin county, Wm.WIiitaker, David Woolard, 

2 Blount' sCt%Beaufort,-]' 

3 Conoho, Martini — 

4 Concord, Washington, — 

5 C'onetoe, Edgecombe, 
6Cowenjock, Currituck;] 

7 Cross Roads, Edgecombe, 

8 Cedar Island, Carteret, — 

Blount Cooper, JohnBryan, 
■Samuel Lewis,* Max. Tatum, 
[John H.Daniel, Wm.Thigpen, 

Samuel Tatum, 
, Wm. Hyman, Sov'n Purvis^ 
■Thosi Robasonj 

9 Deep Creek, Halifax,—] 
10 Falls Tar River, Nash,— 

11 Flat Swamp, Pitt, — 

12 Flatty Creek,Pasquo'k,-] 

13 Fishing Creek, Halifax, 

14 Gum Neck, Tyrrell,, — 

15 Great Swamp, Pitt, — 

16 Goose Creek, Beaufort, - 

17 Joyner's, Northampton, 

18 Kehukee, Halifax, — 

19 Lawrence's, Edgecombe - 

20 LittleAlligaior,Tvrre//,-t 

21 Moraltock, Washington,- 

22 North Creek, Beaufort,— 
S3 Picot, Martin, — 

24 Powell's Point, Cur'h,— 

25 Pungo, Beaufort, — 

26 Rocky Swamp, Halifax, 

27 Sappony, Nash, — \ 

28 Scuppernong, Tyrrell,—] 

29 So. Mattamuskeet, Hyde, 

30 Sandy Grove, Nash, — ] 
3"i Skewarkey, Martin, 

32 Sawyer's Cr'k,C«Wen-f 

33 So. Quay, So'arnptun, Fa. 

34 Smithwick'sCr'k,lVlar'Aj- 

35 Sound Side, Tyrrell, — 
36 Spring Green, Martin,— 
37 Tarboro', Edgecombe, — 

58 Washington, Beaufort,-] 

59 WhitePlains, Beaufort, 
40 Williams's, Edgecombe, - 

Jos. Si Battle, James S Battle, 

W> W.K.Philpof, ll^geTChdnce 

D- B.Pendleton,* W.P.Banks,* 

|W. Powell, Henry Nickels, 

I Isaac Meekins-, 

Bsnj. Flemming, Wm. Shiver, 

.lames Potter, 

Trios. Joyner,* Isaac Outland,* 

Turner Brewer,* J no. Stamper, 

Arthur Parker, John White, 

&»|g!-S - 4g6w Yearly 

W. W.Mizell, D. T. Ayrea, 
Jos. Hi Clark, Jno. Harrington, 

Aquilla Davis,* J. W, Satchel!,' 
L. B. Bennett, S. Nickels,* 

G.W.Carrowan, T. Bridgeroan, 
[R. M.G.Moore,* 
C.B.Hasseli,,Jos D. Biggs, 
Wm. Forbes,* [Gardner, 

E.Harrison, J.J.Lawrence,A.L. 
John Hodges, D. Singleton, 
A. J. Swain,* Saml. Rogers, 
J. Griffin, Aldridge Andrews, 
Rob't D.Hart, Coltield King, 
Jacob Swiudel,* L. Wallace, 
J. Wallace, A. Waters,.! Bowen, 
D. Bradley, Ed. Power, 

5 3 

re S « 

Si. 1 g- ~i 

2 1 4i 1 
1 1 

6 meetings 
a- > J Sundayii* 

$ Cts 





28 1 
30 1 

24' J 

16 1 . 




1 00 

3d inMar» 













00 3dinSep. 

00 3dinSept, 





29 5 15 23 35 10 1154 39 75 


2 00 

2<l in Jan. 

2d inOct, 


4th inSep 
1 stin Aug 

NOTE. Pastors of churches and other ordained ministeis are in small capitals; unordained 
ministers in italic,- those marked thus * were not present; from churches marked thus ] we receiv- 
ed no intelligence, in that case their number stands as last represented; dashes — denote no pastors; 
the column before the last, shows the contributions from the churches to the Association fund this 
year; the last column shows the yearly meetings of each church. , 



from God; whose servant and ambassador 
he is, and who is the great author of the 
whole movement. 

8. The following committees were ap- 
pointed, (viz:) Brethren James S. Battle 
and Robt. D. Hart on finance; Brethren, 
Stadler, Smith, Temple and Biggs and the 
writer, to examine the Circular Letter. 

9. Resolved, that we correspond by let- 
ter and delegates with the following Asso- 
ciations; White Oak and Contentnea. Jno. 
H. Daniel was appointed to write to White 
Oak, and brother Hart to Contentnea. 

10. The Minutes of the different Asso- 
ciations with which we correspond were 
distributed to the delegates. 

11. On motion agreed that the name of 
the Sound Side church be changed to Beth- 

12. Elders Stadler, Temple, and Hassell 
were requested by private ballot to occupy 
the stage to morrow in preaching, and that 
worship commence at 10 o'clock, A. M. 

13. Queries were called for, when the 
following were read. 

Query. Does this Association think it 
according to gospel order, to continue in 
fellowship with a church, whose members 
are in a state of such disorder that they are 
not in a condition to commune, and yet 
continue in this state from year to year 
without taking the steps necessary to re- 
move the difficulty which prevents com- 

Query. Is it consistent with the spirit 
of the gospel for an Old School Baptist to 
attach himself to the society called Odd 

The Association adjourned till Monday 
next, at 9 o'clock, A. M. with prayer by 
Elder Josiah Smith. 

SUNDAY, Oct. 4th. 

Elder C. B. Hassell opened the services 
of the day and preached from 8 chapter 
John, an*! latter part of the 1*2 verse: "I am 
the light of the world., he that folTow- 
eth mesh«Il not walk fn darkness-, but shall 
have the light of life." 

Elder Burrell Temple, followed and 
preached from 4 chapter of 2nd Kings, 
and 34 verse. "And he went up and lay 

upon the child, and put his mouth upon 
his mouth, and his eyes upon his eyes, and 
his hands upon his hands, and he stretched 
himself upon the child, and the flesh of 
the child waxed warm." 

Elder John Stadler also followed and 
preached from 15 chapter of 1st Corin- 
thians, 25 and 26 verses: "For he must 
reign till he hath put all enemies under his 
feet, the last enemy that shall be destroyed 
is death." 

MONDAY, Oct. 5th. 

The Association assembled and was 
opened with prayer by Elder Blount Coop- 

The names of the delegates of this As- 
sociation were called over, and those ab- 
sent, marked as such in the table of chur- 

Elders John Stadler and Burwell Tem- 
ple were requested to occupy the stage to- 
day in preaching. 

The committees appointed on Saturday 
were called on to report. The committee 
of finance reported that, 

There was in the hands of the Trea- 
surer at the close of last Associa- 
tion the sum of 

raid for printing the Minutes 
of last year, - $25 

For superintending the prin- 
ting and distribution and 
recording one copy on 
record 10 

il 55 



35 00 

Now in (he handaof the Treasurer, $16 55 
Received in contributions from 

the churches at this time, 39 75 

Making #56 30 

The Association concurred with th© re- 
port and' the committee were discharged. 

Elder John H. Daniel, who was ap- 
pointed to write to 1 the White Oak Asso- 
ciation, handed in a letter which was read 
and approved; and' Elder Blount Cooper 
and Brethren Robt. D. Hart and John 
Bryan appointed to bear the same. 

Resolved, that Elder John H. Daniel 
and brethren Robt. D. Hart and James S. 
Battle be appointed our messengers to the 



Little River Association, and carry 25 co- 
pies of our Minutes. 

Brother Robt. D. Hart, handed in a let- 
ter to the Contentnea Association, which 
Was read and approved; arid appointed 
Brethren Wm. Thigpen, and R. D. Hart, 
arid Elder John H. Daniel to bear the same. 

Resolved, that brother Robt. D. Hart 
and Elder Lemuel B. Bennett be appoint- 
ed fur messengers to the Country Line 
Association, and that they carry 25 copies 
of o&r Mintite3. 

Resbived, that the Clerk be directed to 
forward lb Abbott's Creek Union Associa- 
tion 25 copies of bur Minutes. 

The committee appointed to examine 
the Circular Letter reported, that they had 
performed their duty and recommend the 
reading of the same; it was read, approved, 
and ordered to be attached to these Mrn- 

Resoivec?, that our next Association be 
tleld with the church at Spring Green, m. 
h. Martin county, to commence tin Satur- 
day before the first Sunday in October, A. 
D. 1847, and that Elder Wm. Hyman be 
requested to preach the Introductory Ser- 
mon, and in ease of failure, C. B. Hassell; 
worship to commence at 11 o'clock, A.M. 

A file of Minutes from Abbott's Creek 
Union' Association was handed in and dis- 

On motion Resolved, that we appoint 
committees of investigation to visit the 
churcheyat Sappony, Sandy Grove, Little 
Alligator, Scuppernong, and Blount's 
Creek, to enquire into their condition and 
report to next Association; whereupon, 
tirethren R. D. Hart, James S. Battle and 
Joseph S. Battle, were appointed a com- 
mittee for Snndy Grove and Sappony; and 
Brethren Arnet Waters, Samuel Rogers, 
and M. Tatum, were appointed the com- 
mittee for Little Alligator and Scupper- 
nong; and Elder Wm. Whitaker, and 
brethren! David Singleton and James Pot- 
ter, were appointed the committee for 
Blount's Creek. 

Queries introduced on Saturday were 
again read and answered — Noi 

Resolved, that brother Joseph D. Biggs 

be requested to prepare these Minutes for 
the press, superintend the printing thereof, 
have 700 copies printed, and record One 
copy on the Association record, and dis- 
tribute them as usual, and that he be allow- 
ed $10 for his -services. 

The Association then adjourned with ari 
address by the Moderator and singing. 

Jos. D. Biggs, Clerk. * 


The Elders and messengers ot the Ke= 
hukee Association, now convened with the 
church at Williams's meeting house} 
Edgecombe county, N. C, to ihe church- 
es they represent; send Christian greeting. 
Dearly beloved in the Lord: Four- 
score years with all their mighty events; 
have forever p&ssed away, since the forma- 
tion of our Association. And in view of 
the commotions, felt in the moral and phy- 
sical world, during this period of time; 
how exceedingly thankful to Almighty God 
should we feel, on the present occasion,' 
for thatspecial grace and protection, which 
he hath given us and our predecessors, and 
for the perpetuation of our name and order, 
independent of all external and internal 
commotions, from the year 1765, dowri 
to the present time! 

Our coming together at this our annual 
meeting has been one of pleasantness and 
peace; and we humbly trust, a practical il- 
lustration of the object our predecessors? 
had in v4ew, when they first organized the 
"Kehukee Association." We think we 
have met in gladness, — deliberated in love, 
and are about to separate in peace; with 
this word of encouragement to you. 

There are two things, we believe, that 
appertain to the Christian character, vizi 
Faith and Works. These in the economy 
of salvation 1 , have been held, as inseparably 
united in the child of God: and in precise- 
ly theorder in which they stand here; viz'; 
Faith first and Works last. To change 
I his order of the terms, would be to deviate ; 
from the word of God, reflect on his wis*- 



Holy Ghast and" that "these three are awe. 

1 John, 5.. 7. And that ihis God is engag- 
ed in the salvation of his people; neither 
does it allow of any other God. Isaiah, 
48 9,10, 11. 45.23. Col. 2. 2. Faith 
receives the Old and New Testament as 
the word of God, an,d believes all scripture 
lo be given b) 7 inspiration of God and to be 
"profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for 
correction, for instruction in righteousness; 
that the man of God maybe perfect, thor- 
oughly furnished unto all good works." 

2 Tim. 3 16, 17. 

Therefore it is an evidence of faith in us 

dom and attack his system. And to exalt 
either one at the expense of the other, is a 
pretty sure way to prove the existence of 
neither, in the individual who attempts the 
achievement. Both must stand or fall to- 
gether. For as faith without works is dead 
being alone, James, 2. 17, even so works 
without faith is ajso dead, Heb. 9. 14 and 
11. 6. Therefore what God hath joined 
together let not man put asunder. 

First then of faith. What is faith? 
i'Faith is the substance of things hoped for, 
the evidence of things not seen. Heb. 9. 1. 
Faith is the gift of God. Eph. 2 8. Faith 
is that in the believer, which "is counted to believe that God from all eternity knew 
for righteousness" to him. Rom. 4. 5; 9, ] that man would fall from his created right- 
30. and 10. 16. Faith also stands for jus- , eousness; and without some heavenly in- 
^ification to the believer; who by it appre- terposition would sink into endless ruin — 
hends Christ, <<who was delivered for our that he determined the eternal salvation of 
offences, and was raised for our justifica-ja portion of this fallen class of beings, in 
tion. Therefore being justified by faith, consequence of his eternal love for them} 
we have peace with God through our Lord and therefore gave them to his Son and 
Jesus Christ; hy whom also we have ac- prepared a place for them in heayen before 
cess by fajlh intp this grace wherein we the foundation of the world. 1 John, 3- 
stand and rejoice in the hope and glory of 2tj. Acts 4. 12. Matthew, 1. 31. and 25. 
God." Rom. 4 25 and 5. 1,2. Faith is 34. Jer.31.3. John, 1 7. 2, 24. That wh«n 
a firm belief in the Lord Jesus Christ, a,sj in eternity God's chosen people were givr 
being the Son of God and also the son of j en the Son, grace wasi gi,ven the people} 
man. As being the "wonderful counsel- i and they, conaequently were elected in 
}or, the mighty God, the everlasting Fath- Christ and predestinated unto eternal life; 

er and the Prince of peace. " Isaiah, 9. 16,, 
and also the tender offspring of Mary, wrap- 
ped in swaddling cloths and laid in a man- 
ger. Luke, 2. 19. A s being possessor of 
heaven and earth, the infinitely great God, 
almighty creator and supreme ruler of the 
universe, without variation or the shadow 
o! a turn. 1 Cor. 10 2Q. John, 1. 3. 
James 1. 17; and also the despised Naza? 
rene, "made of a woman, made under the 
law, to redeem them that were under the 
law." Gal. 4. 4, 5- Faith is a firm be- 
lief jn Christ as the atoning sacrifice for 
pur sins, and is a perfect reliance on him 

— hy and through which theirs becomes 
an eternal salvation, though only manifest- 
ed to them after time began,— according to 
the saying of the appstle: "Gpd who hath 
saved us and called us, with a holy calling, 
not according tp our works, but according 
to his own purpose and grace which was 
given us in Christ Jesus before the world 
began; but is now made manifest hy the 
appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, 
who hath abolished death apd hath brought 
life and immortality to light through the 
gospel." 1 Tim. 1. 9, 10. And again, 
Peter to the brethren says, "Elect accord- 

for life and salvation and all the blessings ing to the foreknowledge of God the Fath- 

of this world and that which is to come. 
Rom. 8. 32. Psalms 84. 11. Faith appre- 
hends God as subsisting in a trinity ef per- 
sons called "the Father, the Word and the 

er, through sanntification of the Spirit, unto 
obedience and sprinkling of the blood of 
Jesus Christ." 1 Pet 1.2. And agai > 
Paul to the Ephesians, 1. 4, 5: '•/ 



cording as he hath chosen us in him 
before the foundation of ihe world, that 
we should be holy and witheut blame be 
fore him in love; having predestinated us 
unto the adoption of children by .Jesus 
Christ to himself according to the good 
pleasureof his will." 

It is an evidence of faith to believe that 
all those thus ordained to eternal life, shall 
believe in Christ, grow in grace and never 
fall finally away; but on the contrary be 
"kept" in Christ by the power of God 
through faith unto salvation, ready to be 
revealed in the last time. Acts, 13. 48. 2 
Pet. 3. 18. John, 6. 54. and 10. 23. Phil. 
1. 6. 1 Pet. I. 5. 

Faith therefore, to say nothing at prea- 
ent of various other points of doctrine, at 
least includes these, viz: Election and pre- 
destination and the final perseverance of 
the saints in grace. These are bright and 

or obsolete. And priestcraft, by the pro- 
mulgation of a variety of wishey-washey, 
linsey woolsey, ring-streaked and speckled 
kinds of doctrines and commandments- of 
men; all in opposition to the Christian 
faith; have produced a host of false wor- 
shippers throughout the length and breadth 
of many so called Christian binds, who are 
ready unless grace interposes to join the 
standard of the beast, whose deadly wound 
is healed, and who will again shortly come 
forth to battle against the saints of the most 

But beloved ye have not so learned Christ, 
as to forsake him in the hour of danger; 
and although your professions of friendship 
to him may not be the loudest of all others, 
yet we believe them genuine, and that you 
will stand by the cause of your Redeemer, 
and contend for his truth and his honor 
down to the latest period of your lives. 

prominent pillars in the temple of faith: Then when the hour of conflict arrives, 
and were it pofsible to remove them, faith I when antichrist shall again lead forth 
itself would be destroyed by tumbling into his armies against the Lord and his chosen* 
ruins. Any pretension to faith, therefore,' (for they will be led forth,) if within our 
where these points are rejected is a sure 'day, we shall expect to see your Christian 
indicative of a dead faith and one which is profession shine brighter and brighter, 

not according to the gospel of God. 

And these points which are very beacon 

while marching triumphantly to the fire, 
the faggot, the stake, the inquisition, the 

lights and polar stars to the Christian mar- | rack, the torture and the toiments of tra- 
iner, pointing him to the fair haven of tan's emissaries, saying as ye go, "Thanks 
eternal rest; become overhanging cliffs be to God which giveth us the victory 
and awful breakers to the unskilful pilot? i through our Lord Jesus Christ." 1 Cor. < 
against which his frail bark is dashed to 15. 57. 

pieces. Fashion so rules the hour and I So we desire to stir up your pure minds 
falsehood so exalts itself in this our day by way of remembrance, to a renewed con- 
and generation, that judgment is turned templation of these things and to the great 
away backward and justice standeth afar importance of strong and abiding faith in 
off, truth is fallen in the street and equity j the Son of God. That lively and evangel- 
eannot enter. Isaiah, 59. 14. ical, holy, deep and abiding, high and lofty 

Many who profess to have evangelical faith of which we have been treating, is a 

faith are either unwilling or afraid to ad- 
vance these truths: thereby proving them- 
selves recreant to the cause of Christ and 
virtually planting themselves within the 
ranks of the «nemy. They attempt to 
bring the doctrine of the gospel into disre- 
pute, by causing the opinion to prevail 
that it is either uncharitable, unprofitable, 

great thing in peace; and if possible a still 
greater in war. For when conflicts arise 
it shines more conspicuously, and whether 
they come from within or from without, 
in life or in death, it inspires a hope which 
is to the soul as an anchor both sure • and 
steadfast — Heb. 6. 19. and enables th* 
man of faith while grappling even with the 



king of terrors to cry out, "0 death where 
is thy stin^? grave were is thy victo- 
ry?" 1 Cor. 15. 55. God's people an 
ciently "through faith, subdued kingdoms t 
wrought righteousness, obtained promises* 
stopped the mouths of lions, quenched the 
violence of fire, escaped the edge of the 
sword, out of weakness were made strong, 
waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the 
armies of the aliens" — Heb. II. 33, 34. 
Awl the children of God now and hereafter 
through like precious faith shall be enabled 
to accomplish like wonders and come oflf 
more than conquerors, with the great cap 
tain of their salvation. 

Secondly of works. What are works? 
Good works, negatively are not of that 
character exhibited by men in a state of na- 
ture. Not one deed ever yet. performed 
by man of himself and while in nature, 
since the fall, can be denominated a good 
work. This is obvious from the fact that 
all men since the transgression, are fallen; 
are evil and that continually; are all gone 
out of the way; there are none good, no 
not one— Gen. 6. 5. Rom. 3. 12. Matt. 
19. 17. Seeing therefore no man is good, 
itfollowsasa matter of course that no 
works of man can. be good. No proposi- 
tion it seems to us can be.more plain to 
the human understanding than this, and 
nothing more reasonable, allowing the 
truth of the scriptures. See Matt. 15. 19. 
and 12. 35. James 3. 11, 12.' . 

All the w orks of all carnal men, either 
separately or combined, are incompetent 
to beget faith or save a soul. In the mat- 
ter of eternal salvation they do opt amount 
to a feather's weight and are. not worth the 
paper on which we write this letter. Like 
their original author, they are forever evil 
and according to God's holy word, must 
ever be denominated bad works, dead 
works, and deeds of ungodly men which 
they have ungodly committed. John, 8. 
4. 4. Jude, 15 verse. 

These things are premised, in order to 
remove the rubbish and open the way for 
the introduction of the main subject which 

is "Good works" in the positive form. 
Affirmatively then,, good works are of 
that character which properly belong to, 
and are manifested in the lives of the liv- 
ing in Jerusalem. God is not the God of 
the dead but of the living. The living — 
the living — those who have been made 
alive from thodead and are alive for ever- 
more—these are they and these only of all 
the sons of men, who can live, move and 
have their being in the spiritual kingdom 
of Christ, and who are competent to the 
performance of works acceptable to him — 
Isaiah 4. 3. and 38. 19. Matt. 21. 32. and 
5. 16. Ephesians 2. 10. Titus 2. 14. 
These people therefore are exhorted by 
the good word of God to abound in good 
works, inasmuch as they are ahle to per- 
form them — these are eneouraged to be 
up and doing — to work while it is day — to 
flee idolatry — to sleep not on the watch- 
tower— to avoid defilement — to touch not 
the unclean thing — -to keep their garments 
unspotted from the world — to become bea- 
con lights, ensamples and patterns to oth- 
ers— to adorn the doctrine of God their 
Saviour, and to work out their salvation 
from the errors and delusions of the world 
with fear and trembling: ever bearing in 
mind that it is God who worketh in them 
"both to will and to do of his good pleas- 
ure." Titus, 2. 10. and 3. 8. Eph. 6. 6. 
1 Thess. 5 5. 8. 1 Cor. 10, 14. Matt. 5. 
14. and 24.42. Mark, 13. 37. Col. 2, 21. 
Phil. 2. 12- 13. These and many other 
things we might name, are what we term 
good works, and they are certainly good 
and profitable to men. 

These exhortations are both scriptural 
and reasonable. They are scriptural as 
hath appeared by the references above 
made. And it is no disparagement to the 
church of God, therefore, or departure 
from the doctrine of the gospel to make a 
frequent repetition of them. "For precept 
must be upon precept, precept upon pre- 
cept; line upon line, line upon line; here a 
little, and there a little." Isaiah, 28. 10. 
And Peter, addressing the household of 



faith, says — "Wherefore the rather breth- 
ren, give diligence to make your calling 
and election sure; for if ye do these things 
ye shall never fall; for so an entrance shall 
be administered unto you abundantly, into 
the everlasting kingdonofour Lord and 
Saviour .lesus Christ. Wherefore I will 
not be negligent to pot you always in re- 
membranceof these things, though ye know 
them and be established in the present 
truth." 2 Pet. 1. 10, 11, 12. Here we 
find the apo3tle declaring that the brethren 
knew the things about which he was writ- 
ing, and were established in the truth; 
nevertheless he deems it expedient to call 
their attention to them again, and urge 
them onward to diligence in the service of 
thair Redeemer. So it is not because we 
Jike you the less, brethren, but because we 
Jove you the more, that we exhort you in 
the name of our Lord to abound in good 
works — yea, to continue steadfast in that 
work ef faith and Jlabor of love and pa- 
tience of hope, in our Lord Jesus Christ, 
in which primitive saints abounded, who 
were declared by the apostle Paul to be 
the elect of God at the same time. 1 The ss. 

1; 3,4. 

These exhortations are reasonable, be- 
cause they are addressed to those who can 
understand them, appreciate their impor- 
tance and comply with their demands. 
Temporally speaking, if we say to a dead 
man "rise up and walk" we shall be guilty 
of an absurdity, because he neither hears 
or is able to comply with the command, 
and it is not our prerogative to raise the 
dead. But if we should say to a living 
man "rise up and walk, run, sit or talk'.' 
we act reasonably, inasmuch as he can both 
hear and comply. Even 30 in spiritual 
matters; if we urge the (lead in trespasses 
and sins, to move onward in the divine life, 
to grow in grace and work out their salva- 
tion with fear and trembling; we shall be 
using words in vain and the exhortation 
will fall lifeless at their feet: because they 
have no ears to hear, eyes to see, or hearts 
to understand, the voice, the beauty, or the;; 

doctrine of our Lord Jesus Christ, in thajl 
spiritual kingdom which is not of this 
world. Mark 4. 12. Hut )et these exhor- 
tations be made to the living — to those 
who have been made alive by a quickening 
spirit — to those who have experienced the 
new birth, and have been translated from 
the dark domain of satan into the bright 
and glorious kingdom of the Prince of 
peace, and there is no absurdly involved 
— there is a proper reasonableness and fit- 
ness of things, that come aptly to the com- 
prehension of all judicious minds; because 
the exhortation in such instance comes to 
those who can both appreciate ana) comply. 
For want of a proper discrimination 
here, a large portion of the professing 
world have made shipwreck of themselves. 

Thev first set sail under the false colors of 

. ■ 1 1 .1 -_ I 

original perfection, and by the fjattering 
breezes of popular favor are wafted onward 
in their career, thev are lost in unknown 

i V !' i 'i ''V 1 

seas, and at length are entirely swallowed, 
op in the vortex of that Maelstrom of satan 
called "do and live " which has spread the 
boundaries of its impetuous whirl far and 
wide, and roared most awfully in the sea ot 
human life, ever since the great transgres- 

But we are addressing the giving men in 
Jerusalem, who are of ''the circumcision, 
which worship God in the spirit, and re- 
ioice in Christ Jesus and have no conn- 
denceitUhe flesh." Phil. 3. 3 Those who 
have fried enough of doing to ^ive, and 
who now by the grace of God are H'Y' n 8 
to do," and who through love to God, ancfj 
not through servile fear desire to walk "in 
all the comman'Imerits and ordinances oj". 
the Lord blameless. " Luke 1. ft Those 
who are created in Christ Jesus unto good, 
works, which God hath before ordained 
they should walk in them. Eph. 2. 10. 

As such we address you, beloved, not in 
a dictatorial spirit or as those who have au- 
thority over you; for the former we de- 
precate and the latter we disclaim; but in 
that spirit of brotherly kindness and for- 
bearance, which one disciple of Jesus should. 




eyer cherish towards another. Let us not 
JLhen be found imparting more advice, than 
we are willing to receive, either, when we 
say that it is an evidence of our abounding 
in good works, when we are at peace one 
with another, and have only one Lord, one 
faith, and one baptism to our profession. 
Kph. 4. 5. When we bear "one another^ 
burdens and so fulfil the law of Christ." 
Gal. 6 3. When we "love one another 
with a pure heart fervently." 1 Pet. 1. 
22. Wjien we speak evil of no man, are 
not found brawlers, but are gentle, showing 
all meekness to all men and ready to every 
good work. Titus, 3 1,2. When we 
pray in our families and ljve a godly, 
righteous and sober life, before our children 
and servant^. Psalms. 92. 2. Titus 2. 12 
When we do not neglect the assembling 
ourgejves together in a church capacity, but 
are regularly occupying our proper places 
in the house of God, and improving the 

1 Pet. 5. 1,2, 3. 2 John, 9. 10, 11. I 
Tim. 3. 2, 3,4, 5. 1 Titus !. 7, 8, 9. 

It is an evidence beloved of our abound- 
ing in good works, when we are found 
ready to share the burdens of the church in 
all lawful matters; particularly when we 
readily administer to the necessities of the 
saints. 1 Cor. 16. 1, 2, 3. And freely 
contribute of our carnal things to those 
who administer to us in spiritual things. 
1 Cor. 9. 11. And when we esteem such 
very highly in love for their works' sake, 
who are over us jn the Lord, laboring 
with and admonishing us in thjngs heaven- 
ly and divine. 1 Thess. 5. }2, }3. It is 
also a good work to stand fast by the land- 
marks of our forefathers and not allow 
them to be removed. Association^ are one 
of those landmarks, and therefore let Asso- 
ciations be honored and perpetuated, so 
long as they subserve the purposes of their 
organization In such casp, brethren 

talents given us of the Lord, to do all should not. be hasty to repudiate them., ^ut 
J;hings therein decently and in order, to the i ready to protect and defend them, 
honor of God and the prosperity of Zion. j If they should transcend their limits, 
Heb. 10. 25. 1 Cor. 14. 20. When we grow despotic, or become tyranical in their: 

quench not the spirit, and despise not pro- 
phesyings; but rejoice evermore, pray 
without ceasing, and in everv thing give 
thanks — knowing this to be the will of 
God jn Christ .lesus concerning us. 1 
Thess. 5. 16,17,18,19,20. When we 
do not look up too much to others to go 
forward in church business, but consider 
ourselves individually charged wifh a re- 
sponsibility there, which must be met and 
a duty which must be performed. Luke, 
if 3. 47 John, 7. 24. Matt. 18 15, 16, 17, 
}S. When we hold Up the hands of our 
minister. Exodus, 17. 12, and guard 
his reputation well, that he may "have a 
good report of them which are without; 
lest he fall into reproach and the snare of 
the devil " 1 Tim. 3. 7. When we look 
well into his moral character, and examine 
welLthe doctrine he advances; and provid- 
ed he is deficient in either, advise him as a 
brother, entreat him as a father and warn 
him of the danger that lies before him. See 

nature, then of course they must be brought 
to terms or abandoned by the churches. A 
union or Association of churches, is bu£ 
the creature of the churches, and of course 
must perish whenever they withdraw their 
support; which they have always the orig- 
inal and reserved right to do. We think 
it ranging high in orthodoxy to say, that 
each and every well regulated church of 
God, is the highest ecclesiastical authority 
in the world, and was never intended by 
the great head of the church, to be forced 
into measures contrary to. its will, by eith- 
er, conventions, councils, boards, or Asso- 
ciations. Yet the remark is no less true, 
that from the earliest ages of Christianity, 
down to the present time, there has ever, 
existed a desire on the part of individual 
churches, to associate, to correspond with 
each other, and to send letter.sand messen- 
gers to one another; in order, apparently 
to cherish, a more extensive brotherly ac- 
quaintance — to enlarge the labors of the? 



ministry — to hear of each others' welfare — 
to seek edification in the things of the king- 
dom and to preserve uniformity of faith 
and works, throughout the bounds of the 
Catholic or Universal church of God, so 
far as time, place and circumstances would 

We find the beginning of this recorded 
in the fifteenth chapter of the Acts of the 
apostles, (which book is the best commen- 
tary on the gospels, in the world, and we 
can do very well without any other,) but 
the end is not yet, for like customs will 
prevail, among God's people, from genera- 
tion to generation, in ages yet to come. 
Then, brethren, snek to cherish this annu- 
al assembling of yourselves together, by 
affectionate epistles and faithful delegates. 
The more effectually to insure the perpetu- 
ity of your Association, be sure to guard 
against all its encroachments, keep it with- 
in the line of duty, the path of humility, 
and shorn of aU unlawful powers; then will 
it stand upon the strongest of all founda- 
tions, viz: love. For if it has your affec- 
tions it lives; without which it dies. If 
we'll conducted it has your affections. It 



We have several communications on 
hand that we are unavoidably compelled 
to defer publishing — but they shall be in- 
serted early the ensuing year. 


Tarborough, Oct. 6th, 1846. 
Dear brethren in Christ: Anoth- 
er year has passed away and the Kehukee 
Association commenced her eightieth ses- 
sion on Saturday the 3rd day of the pres- 
ent month. This body convened with 
the church at Williams's meeting-house', 
Edgecombe county, and closed her ses- 
sion on Monday the 5th, after having at- 
tended to and conducted the business of 
the same; and we can say of a truth that 
seldom if ever, at any previous session, 
have we witnessed such congeniality of 
sentiment and unanimity of action, as was 
generally observed during the session first 
above alluded to, and which closed yes- 

terday forever. You can more easily ima- 
hath been so conducted and we trust will ^ than j can describe> the thri n ing 

continue so to be, as an advisary council of 
many churches, strengthening and increas 
ing in your confidence and good wishes. 

Brethren, farewell. May the grace of 
our Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God, 
and communion of the Holy Ghost, be 
with you and all the true Israel of God, 

scene which usually ensues on (he first 
day of our a^se^nbling together. 

To see the various ministers and dele- 
gates of the much despised and calumnia- 
ted mother of Associations, all coming to- 
gether from their respective (and some of 
them distant) homes, eagerly and affect ion- 

and finally conduct us all into that Associa- < ately shaking hands while their counte 

tion of saints on high, which is never to 
rise — where the words good bye are never 
heard and where parting is no more — where 
congregations never break up and Sabbaths 
never end; but where one eternal day, will 
witness the praise and adoration of redeem- 
ed spirits of earth, all ascending high to the 
throne of God, and glorying in the light of 
his countenance forever. Amen, and A- 


(jQ^Admonish thy friend; it may be 
that he hath not done it, and if he hath, 
that he should do it no more. 

nances are lit up by smiles, and their 
cheeks oft bedewed with teais of joy, at 
the pleasing thought of meeting with the 
long and well-tried soldiers of the cross, 
who have long stood shoulder to shoulder, 
battling for the rights of man, the cause 
of Christ, the freedom of conscience and 
against spiritual wickedness in high pla- 
ces; nor should we neglect to notice here 
the ministers and messengers of the dif- 
ferent Associations of our order, which 
yearly and without fail, find their way 
among us to sit with us in council and to 
witness our deliberations, whose looks 



and actions seem to respond to the lan- 
guage of Ruth to Naomi: Whither thou go- 
est I will go; and where thou Iodgest I will 
lodge: Thy people shall be my people, 
and thy God my God. These come from 
the Country Line, Little River, Content- 
nea and White Oak Associations, whom 
we believe. to be of the same faith and or- 
der, and contending for the same glorious 
truths, as does their ancient mother, the 
Kehukee Association. The Introductory 
sermon was delivered by Elder Blount 
Cooper and being of a persuasive, instruc- 
tive and consoling character, we have 
some reason to hope that some good may 
result from it. 

The Association then went into confer- 
ence by choosing our aged bro. Hyman, 
Moderator and Joseph D. Biggs, Clerk. 

Letters from 31 churches were read. • , 
. On invitation, the following visiting 
ministering brethren took seats among us, 
to wit: Elder John Stadler from the 
County Line, Elder Burwell Temple from 
the Little River, Elders Josiah Smith and 
David J. Mott from the White Oak; and 
Elders Ichabod Moore and John Smith, 
from the Contentnea Associations. A 
Circular Letter was handed in by Elder 
C. B. Hassell, and we exhort our breth- 
ren to read and observe its contents. 

Elders David J. Mott and Ichabod 
Moore occupied the stage on. Saturday. 
Elders C. B. Hassell, Burwell Temple and 
John Stadler on Sunday, and Elders Tem- 
ple and Stadler on Monday; and from the 
intense interest and anxiety manifested 
generally, we believe that times are better 
among us than usual. 

The Weather was very pleasant; but a 
long drought had prevailed up to sitting 
of our Association, the result of which 
was, as usual, dusty roads, paths, &c. 
But the stage and seats were so admirably 
situated, that the congregation suffered 
little or no inconvenience from the dust. 
Although the assemblage on Sunday was 
(as usual) large; yet, it seems to be gener- 
ally remarked, that as little frisking and 
gadding about, and as good order and uni- 
yersal attention has seldom if ever been 

observed on a similar occasion. Notwith- 
standing the Association sat in a neighbor- 
hood, where there are very few Baptists; 
yet the distant visitors were kindly and 
hospitably entertained by our non-profes- 
sing friends: and no where did there seem 
to be more room and welcome, than in the 
hearts and houses of Our Methodist 
friends. Thanks be to God for his good- 
ness to us-ward. 

And now brethren, let us cast a retros- 
pective glance at our past history. The 
Baptists have long been a divided people. 
In the year 1689, a division took place 
among the Baptists in and about London; 
the one calling, themselves Regulars, the 
other party composed of members which 
called themselves Separates. The Regu- 
lars adopted and published a profession of 
their faith, and. were united together upon 
the Calvanistic creed. The Separates 
on' the other hand were Arminians (or 

We have observation and history both 
united to teach us something of the strife, 
contention and heart-burning, which here 
ensued and which has marked the progress 
of contending parties up to the present 
time, and which divine truth and experi- 
ence have taught us to look for among such 
discordant materials as are Arminians and 

The Kehukee Association was organi- 
zed and sat with the church at Kehukee 
meeting-house, Halifax county, N. C, in 
the year 1765. The few churches which 
first met in an associate capacity, did not 
for several years publish any thing like a 
profession of their faith, till it became ev- 
ident that the, spirit o{ error had found its 
way among them. Whereupon the chur- 
ches were requested by the Association 
in 1779, to. send to the ensuing session, jn 
their letters of correspondence, a profes- 
sion of their faith, when it was discovered 
that 4, of the 10 churches which then 
composed the Kehukee Association, were 
dissenters from the regular or apostolic 
order; and thus they continued till the 
Association numbered 51 churches and 
3944 members, and a happy union said 



to have been effected between the Regu- 
lars and Separates; but from recent 
events, it is clearly manifested that the 
Regulars were more unfortunate in theia 
supposed happy re-union, than in their 
separation in 1779, since we are told that 
two can't walk together except they be 

The Kehukee Association in 1790, was 
composed of 61 churches .and above 5000 
members; and about this time it was pro- 
posed and agreed to, that the churches in 
Virginia should peaceably separate from 
those in North Carolina, and form a dis- 
tinct body, but upon the same principles 
by which the whole had long been united. 
These two hodies seemed for a season, to 
see eye to eye and speak the same things; 
but that bad leaven — the spirit of error, 
which was suppressed and concealed in '79 
and '80 under the name separatism, was 
again resuscitated and developed about the 
3'ear 1820, under the assumed name of 
missionism — the baneful effects of which 
have been too plainly seen and sensibly 
felt among us, to require any testimony 
now of the fact3 as they have long existed. 
After separating, the Association in North 
Caroljna numbered 42 churches and retai- 
ned the name qf Kehukee. The one in 
Virginia took the name of Portsmouth. 

A correspendence was kept up between 
}he Kehukee and most or all the other As- 
sociations round about, both in Virginia 
and North Carolina, till about the year 
1827, when the Kehukee Association de- 
clared a non-fellowship with all Missiona- 
ry and Bible societies, and Theological 
seminaries, and the practices resorted tp 
by them, for the purpose of supporting 
the same by a system of begging not rec- 
ognized by the scriptures of divine truth, 
nqr (we believe) practiced and persisted 
in by any strict adherent to the cause of 
Christ: whose kingdom is not of this 
world, and who redeemed his church not 
with corruptible things as silver and gold, 
but his own heart's blood. 

But to return. We stated in the outset 
that the Kehukee was the mother of Asso- 
ciations. We have reference to North 

Carolina more particularly, (the Philadel- 
phia being the first that was constituted 
within the American Colonies;) and let us 
notice for a moment the conduct of some 
of her giddy and untoward daughters, 
towards their aged and discreet mother. 

1st then. The Chowan Association has 
long since declared non-fellowship with 
and withheld her correspondence from the 
Kehukee, and her ministers and members 
generally unite in villifying and traducing 
the latter; and endeavor to defame and 
bespatter her character, and never once do 
her the justice to publish or even allow, 
that she yet stands to and abides hy the 
same Articles of Faith that she was conr 
stituted upon; and which, the Chowan hag 
transcribed and processes to have adqptr 
ed, verbatim — which Articles emphatical- 
ly profess and approve the apostolic doc- 
trine of election and predestination. An4 
notwithstanding they may be and are con- 
demned (in heart and principle) by all the 
missionary or New School churches and, 
Associations in Christendom,, (the Chowan, 
included,) still we believe they fellowship 
them in theory or profession only, merely 
to keep up a show of consistency while 
(we repeat) they repudiate, and violate, and, 
condemn, and set them at nought hy prac- 
tice; and we here take the liberty to use 
the appropriate language of inspiration iq 
their behalf, which they should address tq 
the Kehukee: We will eat our p,wn bread, 
and wear our own apparel: only let us be 
called by thy name to take away our re- 
proach. Isaiah, 4 c. 1 v. 

Notwithstanding the bitter invective 
and denunciation, which the Chowan has, 
indulged in towards the old, uniform, con- 
sistent, and unpretending Kehukee Asso- 
ciation; still we remember that hut a year 
or two back, the former petitioned the lat- 
ter for a renewal of their former corresr 
pondence and offered terms of cqmprqm-: 
ise; thereby demonstrating beyond, cavil, 
that Old Ironsides was not in deed and in, 
truth as odious in the esteem of the Chq-t 
wan, as she had hitherto pretended tq 
think. But we hasten, and as we glance 
hurriedly along we must notice briefly i.fl 

the 2nd place, the youngest daughter of 
the family. 

In 1831, ten or fifteen churches with- 
drew from the original compact, and con- 
vened with the church at Mearns'S chapel, 
In Nash county, N. C; when and where 
they were constituted into an Association, 
arid took the name of the Tar River. 

These churches, like those of the Ports- 
mouth, professed to withdraw alone for the 
Sake of convenience; but never have they 
On the first occasion evinced a disposition 
to correspond or sit with us in council. 
ThiiS has the Tar River forsaken her 
chaste, constant, and devoted mother; and 
Wandered after strange lovers and blind 
guides, till she has become so completely 
Enveloped in the smoke of Arminianism, 
alias hu'man-effortism, that the dim, stiller 
light of Ftjllerism is not sufficient to com- 
prehend and disperse the darkness with 
Which she is overwhelmed; and hence she 
Cannot retrace her steps, unaided by the 
light of revelation. And unless Jehovah 
Should make bare his own arm in her be- 
half, the must still remain among her twin 
sisters of every name or denomination 
(from' the first Episcopalian Society in 
J534, down to her diminutive self in 
1&46,) in Mystery, Babylon the Great, the 
mother of harlots and abominations of the 
earth. Rev. 17 c. 5 v. 


able priesthood, who have long endeavored 
to lead or drive- her from her stronghold: 
Rut having thrown off the ecclesiastical 
yoke, with which her wOuld-be-rulcrs in 
vain attempted to entangle her, may she 
continue true to herself, and stand fast in 
the liberty wherewith Christ hath made; 
us free, and not suffer herself again to be 
entangled with the yoke of bondage; but 
may her last request to her survivors, be 
that of a dying Lawrence: Don't give up 1 
the ship. ROBERT D. HART. 



And now we assert in conclusion, that 
notwithstanding our number of churches 
fray dwindled from 61 to 40, and our num- 
ber of members from 5000 to 1200, still 
We feel we'll assured that our condition 
Was" never sounder, and our members sen- 
erally never more determined to expose 
err*or, condemn heresy and to contend ear- 
nestly for the faith once delivered to the 

And brethren, we do and we' Will re- 
jbice while' we inform you that old Kehu- 
kee is yet herself, and still remains undis- 
mayed and unterrified- by the numerous 
and increasing host of outer-coUrt wor- 
shippers, who threaten and would gladly 
accomplish her overthrow and extermina- 
tion; unseduced by the arts, devices and 
flattery of a fawning, sycophantic, fashion* 

Of the Lexington Primitive Baptist 
jSssociatioti, convened with the Mount 
Pleasant church, Barnioelt diitribi, 
S. C, October 2nd, 1846, ettld days 
following — sixth session: 

The Introductory Sermon was deliver- 
ed by Elder J. G. Bowers, from 1st Co- 
rinthians, 9 chapter and 16 verse: "For 
though I preach the gospel, I have noth- 
ing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon 
me: yea, wo is unto me, if I preach not 
the gospel." After which the delegates 
assembled in the house, and after prayer 
by Elder John Galloway proceeded to bu- 

1st. Read letters from the churches irf 
union, enrolled the names of the delegates,- 
and minuted the state of the churches. 

2nd. Elected Jacob G. Bowers, Moder- 
ator; and Stephen Youmans, Clerk and 

3rd. The Constitution, Articled of Faith, 
and Decorum were then read'. 

4th. Called for corresponding letters — 

5th. Appointejd the following commit- 
tees, (viz:) On revision, Elder John Gailo-" 
way and W. Hardy; oh preaching, Herii L 
ehdine Bowers, Saul Harvey and Charles ; 

6th. Called for the Circular Letfeiy 
vvhich was prepared by J. G. Bowers- — 
read, approved and ordered to be pririted 
with the Minutes. 



7th. Appointed Stephen Youmana to 
prepare our next Circular Letter. 

8th. Appointed Elder John Galloway 
to preach the next Introductory Sermon, 
and Elder W. B. Villard his alternate. 

9th. Called for and received the report 
of the committee on revision. • 

10th. Called for and. received the report 
of the committee on preaching. 

11th. Our next Association will be held 
with the Bethlehem church, Edgefield dis- 
trict, So. Ca., Friday before the first Sun- 
day in October, 1847. 

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Prayer by Stephen Youmans — adjourn- 
ed till to-morrow morning, half past 10 

Saturday morning, met according to 
adjournment-sprayer by the Moderator- 
called the names of the delegates — procee- 
ded to business. 

Resolved, that this body return their 
thanks to this church and the neighbor- 
hood, for their kind treatment and hospi- 
tality, during this meeting. 

Adjourned until the Friday before the 
first Sunday in October, 1847. 

Preaching was continued at the stand, 
through the day. Sunday the 4th, prea- 
ching was continued by Stephen Youmans, 
W. B. Villard, J. G. Bowers and John 
Galloway, in the order of their names, to 
a large and attentive audience. We hope 
not without effect. 

JACOB G. BOWERS, Moderator. 

Stephen Youmans, Clerk. 


The Lexington Primitive Baptist Asso- 
ciation to the churches she represents, 
sends Christian salutation. 

Dearly beloved Brethren and 
Sisters: Our former practice will author- 
ize you to expect an anniversary address 
Irom us in our present session, and with 
pleasure on our part we cheerfully comply. 
And the subject that we call your attention 
lo in this our little epistle, is the 10 verse 
of the first chapter second epistle general of 
Peter: Brethren, give diligence to make 
your calling and election sure; for if ye do 
these things ye shall never fall. 

So, dear brethren, if the Christian is in 
the miserable condition that the apostle 
says that they are in before conversion — 
Paul to the Ephesians, 2 chapter and 2 
verse: Where in time past ye walked ac- 
cording to the course of this world. 3 
verse. Among whom also we all had our 
conversation in times past in the lust of our 
flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flpsh and 
of the mind, and were by nature the chil- 
dren of wrath even as others. 4 verse. 
But God who is rich in mercy, for his 
great love wherewith he loved us, 5 verse. 
Even when we were dead in sins, hath 



quickened us together with Christ, by Hebrews, 11 chapter, 6 verse says: With- 

grace ye are saved. And as it is by grace 
and not by works that we are brought vo 
the knowledge of our salvation, so we can 
plainly see that the text has no allusion to 
the calling of men to the ministiy, nor any 
other office in the church of Christ; but as 
all men have sinned and come short of the 
glory of God, it proves very evidently that 
all God's elect were children of wrath even 
as others, until we are brought from that 
lost estate by the grace of God, which is 
his eternal love and good will. Romans, 11 
chapter and 6 verse: And if by grace, then 
is it no more of works. 2 Timothy, 1 
chapter, 9 verse: Who hath saved us and 
called us with an holy calling, not accord- 
ing to our works, but according to his own 
purpose and grace which was given us in 
Christ Jesus before the world began. 1 
Peter, 2 chapter, 9 verse: But ye are a cho- 
sen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy 
nation, a peculiar people; that ye should 
shew forth the praises of him who hath 
called you out of darkness into his marvel- 
lous light. 10 verse of same chapter: 
Which in time past were not a people, but 
are now the people of God; which had not 
obtained mercy, but now have obtained 
mercy. 2 Thessalonians, 2 chapter, 14 
verse: Whereunto he called you by our 
gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our 
Lord Jesus Christ. 

And these quotations of scripture we 
deem a sufficient proof, that all the follow- 
ers of Jesus Christ are brought into a 
church estate by grace and grace alone; and 
as we see that many are called, but few 
chosen, Matthew, 20 chapter, 16 verse; 
and also 22 chapter, and 14 verse, we tru- 
ly and sincerely with the apostle pray you, 
brethren and sisters, to give great diligence 
to make sure that you have the right call 
of God, which truly requires a close exa- 
mination to find out if you have the right 
faith, which is truly necessary in all God's 
children. For Paul in the 2 Corinthians, 
13 chapter and 5 verse says: Examine 
yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; and 

out faith it is impossible to please him. 

So we pray 5'ou all, dear brethren and 
sisters, to try and make sure that you have 
the right faith; that faith which works by 
love and purifies your souls. For if ye do 
these things, ye shall be more than con- 
querors through him that loved you; for 
we are persuaded that neither death,' nor 
life, norangels> nor principalities, nor pow- 
ers, nor things present, nor things to come, 
nor height, nor depth, nor any other crea- 
ture, shall be able to separate you from the 
love of God, which is. in Christ Jesus our 

And now we close our little epistle, by 
praying you to remember him that is able 
to keep you from falling, and to present 
you faultless before the presence of his glo- 
ry with exceeding joy. To the only wise 
God our Saviour be glory and majesty, do- 
minion and power, both now and forever- 
more. Amen. 

(j^^Honor thy father with thy whole 
heart, and forget not the sorrows of thy 
mother. How canst thou recompense them 
the things that they have done for thee. 

Honorable age is not that which stands 
in length of time, nor which is measured by 
number of years; but wisdom is the gray 
hair to man, and unspotted life is old age. 


Appointments for Elders Parham Puck- 
el and D. J. Molt. 
At Red Banks, 29th October; 30th, at 
Great Swamp; 3lst, at Flat Swamp; 1st 
Nov. at Spring Green; 2nd, at Baregrass; 
3rd, at Skewarkey; 4th, at Picot's; 5th, at 
Morattock; 6th, at White Chapel; 7th and 
8th, at Concord; 9th, at Angeley's; 10th, 
at Bethlehem; 11th, at Sound Side; 12th, 
at Little Alhgator; 15th, at Powel's Point; 
16th, at Coenjock; 17th, at Sawyer's 
Creek; 18th, at William Forbes's; 19th, at 
Flatty CreeTt; 21st, at Sawyer's Creek; 
22nd, at Coenjock; 24th, at James Brin- 



son's; 25th, at Peticogue; 26th, at Roanoke 
Island: 2Sth and 29th, at Povvel's Point; 
1st, Dec. at Lake Alligator; 2nd, at Sound 
Side; 3rd, at Bethlehem; 4th, at Angeley's; 
5th and 5th, a£ Concord; 7th, at White 
Chapel; 8 K th',atMofattock. 


North Carolina. C.B.Hassell, Williamston 
R. 1VLG. Moore, Germdnton. W. w.MizeLl,/Vy- 
mo'uih. Benjt Bynum, Nahunta Depot, H.Ave- 
ia,Atjerasboro' . BurwellTemple, Raleigh. Thos. 
Hag]ey„Smi,thjield. James H. Sasser, 
bpro\' . L. B. Bennett, Healhville. Cor's Oana- 
tiay,,Cruyensyille William Welch, Abbott's 
Creek,' A. B, Bains, Jr. Stanhope. C. T. Saw- 
yer, Powell's Point. H . W i I kerso n , West Point. J. 
Millet 1 ,' Miltpn park. Isaac Meekinsand Samup] 
Roger's",' Columbia, Wim Mi Rushing, White's 
Store. J.ames H.Smith, Wilmington, Jacob Her- 
ring, Goldsboro', Si Tatum. Elizabeth City, Ad- 
am Hooker, Salem Church, Abner Lamb, Cam- 
den C. Hx. 

South Caroli:naY Wm. S. Shaw, Hock Mills 
W. B. Vfllard, Sr. Aiken.. M.McGraw, Brown's. 
J. Li Simpson', VVinnsboro' , Ji Gi Bowers, Whip- 
py Swamp, Wmi Nelson, Camden, Gi Mai 
thews, Germanville. J. C. Lucas, Lexington C, H. 
Amos Hill, pleasant View. 

Georgia. John McKenney, Forsyth. Thomas 
Amis, Lexington. John Mi Field, Macon. John 
W. Turner,' Pleasant .Hill. Wlliam Trice and 
William' D.Taylor, Thonaston. Ezra McOrary, 
Warrenion. Prior Lewis, Thomusville, L Las- 
setter', Vernon. Abner Durham, Greenville, Geo. 
Leeves,.Milledgevi/le. W.J.Parker, Chenuba. J.P. 
EU\s,Pineville, F. Haggard, Athens, A. MiThomp- 
son, Fort galley, Daniel O' Nee\,OliveGrove. John 
Wayne, Cain's, R, S. Hamrick, Carroll/on. D. 
Smith, Cool Spring Moses H. Denman, Marietta 
Jethro Oates, Mulberry Grove, Isham Edwards-, 
Marion. Joseph Daniel, Fish's. R, L. Hayne, 
Lebanon, T. w. Dearing, Cotton River. E. Davis, 
Gretn ffilh 

Alabama. A.Keaton,/?e/'W(mf. H. Dance and 
W. Bizzel), Eutaw. E.Bell, Liberty Hill, J. 
G.Walker,'M//on. HiWilliams, Havana, J. 
Daniel, Claiborne, E.Daniel, Church Hill, \, 
Carpenter, Sr. Clinton, J ,VlcQ\ieen,Lowndesboro' . 
Wm.TzMey, Mount Moriah, B Upc-hnrch, Bene- 
volo, Si Hamrick, Plantersville. James Si Mor- 
gan, Dayton. Rufus Daniel, James/ on, Joel Hi 
Chambiess, Loweville. F. Pickett, China Grove, 
John w. Pellum, Franklin, John Harrell, Mis, 
Souri. Wm. Thomas, Gainer's Store. E.M.A- 
iWjrjg'j Midway Allen Moore, Intercourse, John 
BryVtH'Sr' Fullersvi/le, Benj. Lloyd, Welumpka 
>f, N.Bar'mofe, Mill Perl, A. Hatley, Pinllala. 
yihc'e'n't Williams, Mobile. Young Smith, Eufau- 
la. T.J. Foster', Bell's Landing. Henry Cason. 
Mont'i'cello. Henry Pelty, Pickensvi]\e. D. R. 
P. King, PainesviUe, John whitehead, Jr. Piea- 
s'ant A\ains. M. W. Helms, Bridgcvillc. Elly 
Bi Turner, Abbevilte, Thomas Townsend. Fork- 
Hind, Robert Grady, Bluff Port. R. R.Thomp- 
Sbu; Centretrille. JauiesF.' Watson, Geneva. 

Tennessee Michael Burkhalter, Jasper, Wm 
Oroom, Jackson. Solomon Ruth, Wesley. Ira E t 
Douthit, Lynchburg, Geo. Turner, Waverly, 
Henry Randolph. SnGdysville. Pleasant A.Witt 
Russclville, William McBee,. Old Town Creek, 
A. Burroughs, Moore's X Roads. James Shelton, 
Portersville. Shadraeh Mustain, Lewisburg. Na- 
than >S. McDowell, TazewelU. Henry Turner, Fay. 
etlcnllk. Isaac Moore, Ripley, James Sailing-. 
Bull Rim. 6 

Mississippi. William Huddleston and Ed- 
mund Beeman, Thomas/on. Simpson Parks and 
Samuel Canterberry, Lexingtm. John S. Daniel, 
Cotton Gin. Port. . Mark Prewett, Aberdeen; 
Wm. Davis, Houstou. C. Nichols, Stump Bridge. 
Wooten Hill, Cooksville, John Davidson, Car 
rollton. Thomas Mathews, Black Hawk. James 
Lee, Bcatie's Bluff. James T. S. Cockerham, 
Grub Springs, James Crawley, Minghoma. Jos!' 
Edwards, New Albany. Thomas C, Hunt, Mc- 
Leod's. John Hal bert, Nashville. Wilson Hunt' 
Stewart's, John Seal lorn-. Pleasant Mount, John 
Kinnard, Daley's X Roads. K, B. Stalling, De- 
kalb. ~ . ° 

Louisiana. Thos> Paxton, Greensboro'. J a g„' 
Peikins and Needham Coward, Big woods. L. 
G. McGaughey, Ballieu's Ferry. Benjamin Gar-* 
lington, Negreet. , . ., 

Florida. Hartvvell Watkins, Monticellb, Lew".' 
is Tucker, Campbellton. 

Arkansas. John Hart, Saline. George w 
Rogers, Arkadclphia, C, B. Landers, Union C.H.' 
J, M. C. Robertson, Fosters, John Honea, Ozark,' 

Missouri. John P. McDowell, New Market, 

Illinois. John Alsbury, Ijick Creek. 

Indiana, wilson Connar, Co\umbia, 

Ohio. John B. Moses, Germanlon, . 

Kentucky. Washington Watts, Cornelius- 
ville. Levi Lancaster. Canton. Skelton Renfro, 
Cumberland Ford. Tandy James, Somerset, Isaac 
Horn, Rome. 

Virginia. RudolphRcrer,i5er*erV.S7o?-e. Wrru 
w. West, Wlieatle-y. William Burns, Davis' 
Mills, Jesse Lankford. Bowers's, A- Rorer, Edge- 
hill Thomas Flippen- Laurel Grove. Thomas 
w. Walton, Pleasant Gap. Levi Bishop, Sinclair's 

Pennsylvania. Joseph Hughes, Gum Trte. 

NewYork. Gilbert Beebe, New Vernon. 


Thomas Davis, ' $1 
Mrs. N. T. Davis, 1 
Spencer Kallam, 1 
Stanford Carver, 1 

Ste'n Youmans, $6 
Sanders Mills, 1 
Thomas Low, 1 


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Vol. 11. 


No. I*. 



Jackson coxtnty, Tennessee, 
Jiugust 23, 1S4&. 

Dear Brethren of the Old School or- 
der: It is through the mercy of an all-wise 
God, that I am yet in the land among the 
living, and enjoying a reasonable portion 
of the comfort* of life; for which I fall 
short of returning the thanks that are due 
to Almighty God. 

I would= say to- my brethren and sisters 
of the Primitive order, that I removed 
last 1 year from Blount county to' Jackson' 
county, Tennessee; and, dear brethren, I 
feel W thank God that he has cast my lot 
among his children, among a people that 
can end we sound doctrine.- f live in the 
bounds of the Caney Fork Association of 
Old School Baptists: This-Association, so 
far as X have learned, is composed general- 
ly of members that are sound in the faith. 
There has been a considerable increase for 
the last two years in this section of coun- 
try, yet there are some Arminians here; 
they' mostly consist of the Methodist de- 
nomination; The church 1 that I put my 
letter in appears to be travelling, for it is 
said- that when Zion travels she brings 
forth'. There have been five baptised 
since I came here. Love, peace, and una-j 
nimity appear to abound among the breth- 
ren) and the word preached appears to 
have effect. Saints rejoice together, and 
praise God for his rich, free, and unmerit- 

ed grace bestowed on fallen man, while* 
sinners are made to cry, men and breth- 
ren, what shall I do to be saved? 

There are many things that; t should 
like to wri ; te, but lest I should be in the-' 
way I will stop after saying to our bietfo-- 
ren, go on in the strength of Israel's 5 Gtfd 
to' Write and sing; for the little messenger 
Hoes always- some good tidings bring. As 
ever your unworthy brother in tribulation^- 


Owsfey county, Kentucky, f 
June 22; 1846; l ! 
Dear brother Davis: After my best 
love and Christian fellowship to you' and* 
family, f wish to- inform you that I am 
still in the land of the living, and still in 
the gospel fteldandat war with principali-- 
ticsand powers, and spiritual wickedness 
in high places, as God has commanded hijr 
ministers to do! Brother Davis, the har- 
vest is great and the true laborers of the 
gospel are few. You know that the devil 
and his preachers have always been trying? 
to cut me down ever since youknew me;? 
but thanks be to God all their schemes,, 
plots, and lies, are in vain. I stand my 
ground, and by God's assistance still Keep 
the field. I want you to tell old Mr. KoB- 
orfcs, if he is yet alive, that I often look 
buck at Pine Creek and think of his treat- 
ment to me, poor old man; I hope if he 
is yet alive that God may not kill him till 
he truly repents for his conduct. 



Brother Davis, we old fashioned Bap- 
tists in this country where I now live, are 
in peace ami love one with another? and 
we don't suffer a forked tongue, dirt-eating. 
Baptist even to ask a blessing at our table, 
nor go to duty in one of our houses' We 
view them as enemies both to God anfl 
man, and bringing- a curse on the whole 
earth 1 tell you in plain English, thn 
mi^sionism is one of the worst devils that 
ever was wrapt up in a sheepskin yet;- and 
thank God the people are beginning, to see 
its cloven foot in Kentucky. The mis- 
sion name is beginning to make some of the 
peopls heave up the black vomit, and 1* 
love to see the poisun of missionary craft 
work thera severely. And" I" siy, well 


can you o? any other man think of ft prf'sr* 
cher that will beg a poor servant girl for a' 
bras* ring off of her finger to help him 
spread what he calls" ihe gospel. I can tell 
you what 1 think about him. I think all 1 
such ate nothing more ridr less than tessa- 
boys for the devil, and ou^ht to have their 
bieUs WeB slashed whh a good cow hide. 

As I know no better way to write to my 
friends than to Write to Tar-borough and 
there have it printed, I have taken this" 
method. And 1 now, brother Rorer, you' 
know when the lion i oars' the beasts of the' 
forest tremble, and those bea>ts the mis= 
sionaries ever since the rnsning^of the Pri- 
mitive, hatfe been trembling for fear their 
craft will come to nought. And k h«r 

done, missionaries, kick them and cuffj come just to what I ever expected, that is, 

them, pull them and lug them, lug their 
money out of them by hmclfuls. They 
loved your poison so well that youhave 
given' trrerriV that- r think many of them 
that have taken such large doses will be apt 
to die with it in them There is btit orvr 
medicine in heaven or on earth that can 
cure them, and that is the grace of God; 
and I feel very doub Mil whether ihey are 
in reach- of that medicine or not. For 
whenever God sends a man strong delu- 
sion to> believe a- lie so^ that he may be 
damned, it is certain death; no cure for 
that man in time nor eternity. 

So I would advise those dirt-eating kind 
of Baptists to bervare of missionary poison, 
for the bite of a rattlesnake is nothing to 
be compared with the bite of a- missionary . 
Poor, trifling, lazy, miserable wretches; 
they once thought they had the true 
church of Christ completely sunk in the 
mite of delusion by their lies, but, brother 
Davisj God has never left his church and 
given it to the devil to be trampled under 
foot by him yet, nor never will. Thanks 
be to his beloved name, for his goodness to 
his church and people. 

Brother Davis, fear them not; they are 
noihirig but chaff and stubble, that will be 
consumed by fire and br irnstjtjne; fortiori 
has declared iV and he cannot lie. What 

shame and disgrace to themselves and to' 
their followers. And, brother Rorer, I s 
don'i v-ianf yot) to show them any favors' 
or give them any quarters. Take the two- 
edged sword and chop off every one of 
their heads wherever you find them. 

And you, my well beloved brethren,' 
that work' with the snake pole. thraslV 
them down wherever you find them, and 
mash their heads well;* for of alt the ser-" 
pents on earth, those missionary serpents'* 
are the worst to bile^ other serpents catv 
only kill the body, but thojte missionary 
serpents when they get a fair grip with ; 
their long^teeth, and dart their poison irv 
with their foiked jjungue^they kill soul* 
and body. Iherefoie, my brethren, don't' 
leave ihem only half killed, be sure you' 
flatten their heads well wi h your snake 
snake poles. And, brethren, don't think 
that I will he idle all the time, while you' 
are snake poling; although I am an old man, 
1 assure you that I will be smashing about' 
among them with my club axe; and when- 
ever I gel near enough with my club axe,- 
be you well assured that I will give them a 

Dear brethren, some of you that read 

ihis piece will no doubt sa\ that I am too 

haul on the missionaries; but, biethien, if 

you knew as much aouul thtw as 1 do, you 


rmKirNVb; kaVti^t. 


would not think so Fur I do know, and 
i .■ ■ , 

God knows. llial I do know, them lo be wil- 
ful ;ind designing liars. There is not one 
man on the whole eaitn ihat k mws a mis 
s'ionary belter ill m I do, they had me a 
prisoner as they thought for something 
like fifteen years;' ;iml I as much believe 
as I heheve there is a God. that if they on 
ly could have got law power on tieir >ide, 
ihey would have hid my hod off or my 
body burnt at a slake yeaig ago. Ves, 
brethren, I as much believe what \ am now 
writing, as I believe the pen is in or he 
iwten my fingers. And I do firmly be- 
lieve that ihey the missionaries do hate me 
worse than any other man on earth, and I 
can firmly say that I don't believe there is 
one drop of love lost between us; for 1 can 
say in truih, ihat of all the kinds of people 
that ever lived on earth, from the days of 
Adam down lo the present time, 1 know 
thai I do abhor l heir way the worst.' Let 
any man otreaith have the same trial with 
them thai I have had/and if he don't have j 
the same opinion of them that I have, 1 will j 
give that, man leave to come to Kentucky ! 
and cut my head off with an old light wood 

And, brethren, what will you think 
when 1 tell you, that those same forked- 
tongue vipers when they meet or see me 
they have the impudence to call me broih- 
iTillefy, and say they will love the old 
fashioned Baptists whether ihey love them 
or not. thou deceitful Lucifer, thou 
brat of hell, how I hate you and all your 
legions with you. O thou old horny- 
headed brimstone king, well may you be 
called legion." 

And, George, 1 want you to publish this 
little dodging piece of mine as soon as pos 
sible, so that my old brethren in the differ- 
ent Stales may know that I am not dead 
yet. And, George, 1 want you to send 
trie on my beloved paper called the Primi 
tive, and direct it to Kentucky. Clay coun 
ty, Manchester post office, and oblige your 
old friend Isaac Tillery. And, tieoige, I won't be long till I shall have to 

*em\ on for sever*! new subset ibers There 
• re several persons that have spoke to me 
<n<\ requested me to aet as agent for them 
hi re in Kehtucky, and if 1 should consent 
to do so, I expect a good many old sub- 
-cribers will take the paper again that have 
quit. Brother Levi Hunt ia dead, their 
old agent. He died the last of October in 
the \ ear 1845, and ts much lamented by 
his biediren; worse than all, his lossin his 
own family. And his death has also 
brought more hardship on me than 1 
should have had if he had lived. I have 
to supply two churches that he had the 
cite of, beside the one where my member- 
ship is. 

I i bought when 1 left North Carolina, 

that I never would take the pastoral care of 

another church while I lived; but, breth- 
ren, what can a servant of God do, when 
the children of the most high are looking 
up to him and calling, him a father in the 
gospel, and begging him to 'eed them with; 
the bre.d of life? On those grounds, 
brethren, I give tip' all and go. lam 
bound to love my Father's children wher- 
ever I see them, and to comfort and feed 
them in those days cf famine where the 
hirelings are so plenty. I mean those mis- 
sionaiits who are poisoning the people 
with i heir fifth. 

Brother Henry Randolph, I wonder if 
you possibly can think that I have forgot- 
ten \ou all this lime? No, no, nor never 
shall while sense and memory lasts, 
long lo see you and hear you pieach again, 
my dear old brother; many long milesand 
high mountains are between our bodies, 
yet in heart and soul we are together. 
Brother Randolph, 1 want ybtj lo keep 
thrashing with that heavy flail of yours 
tilf you thrash down the mountains of 

Broiher McDowell and brother Witt, I 
love you both and I think you both know 
it; and as I am a far older man than either^ 
of you, I advise you both to quit chunking 
one another. If either of you or both of 
you want a dram, drink it and throw no 



chunks about it nor over it at one another, close shoots and wound the enemy's cau.«e 
I know you boih, and know you both to I as bad as you do. Brother Osbourny we 

be sober steady n en; and according to my 
judgment both what 1 call teal gospel prea- 

Brother Wilson Oliver, pick op Ihe 
crooked ram's horn and blow down the 
stately walls ol missionism. Brother A. 
Kealon draw up your anchor and hoist ev- 
ery sail to Ihe breeze, and give the pirates 
another chase. Brother Pate, gird on your 
shepherd's bag and pick up your sling and 
pick up I Fie filtle stones out of the brook; 
the giants are yet in the field, defying the 
armies of the living God. Knock their 
brains out, brother Bate Brother Grego- 
ry, come into the ranks with jour rod in 
your hand and throw it among the mis- 
sionaries; and let it become snakes to bite 
them every one. Brother Thomas Dud 
ley, rally your forces; ihe Midianites have 
spread themselves all along the valley of 
confusion as thick as grasshoppers for muf 
titude. They hive got them a President, 
a Vice President, a Secretary, a Cashier, 
and the dear knows what all; they think 
they are in a mighty good fix for war. and 
boast of their number. Brother Tom, 
fetch up your three hundred lappers and 
hoist your flag, and what you don't kill 
will run from Dm to Barsheba, or across 
Jerich for what I know, for they dread the 
weapons of your warfare. 

My brethren, in the State of Georgia, I 
know you to be equal to the Benjamiies in 
the days of old. You can throw a stone to 
a hair's breadth, and knock down a mis- 
sionary every lick. As for poor old North 
Carolina, in the time cl the Revolutionary 
war 1 know there were a great many to 
]>ies there, but thanks be to God she has 
now many choice whigs in her ranks; to 
be sure there are many tories there yet, but 
when they hear the sound of the whigs' 
drum marching into the field, they dodge 
and squat like rabbits. 

Brother Osbourn, you belong othe rifle 
company, and as your gun has two sights to 
it, it if no wonder that you, make 6uch 

have some excellent marksmen here m 
Kentucky, when they get rightly engaged 
I tell you they eut hide and hair as they go. 
And, my (Fear brethren, as I have not been 
to see yon for a long time, I have conclu- 
ded at last to pay yon another visit; and I 
hope you will excuse me for my short 
dodges and quick turns. I have beard i! 
said, that it was a poor preacher that could) 
rrot make the people laugh nor cry neither. 
And as there are so many of ywo that 
write such excellent pieces, I have conclu- 
ded to leave all such beautiful joint work as 
a great many of you make^for better heads 
and pens than mine. 

But, brethren, there is one thing that I 
do know and God knows it too r and that \» T 
f do love God and his dear children if my 
poor old heart does not deceive me My 
dear brelhien,it is as natural for me lo joke 
and have a httie merriment with my pre- 
cious brethren as it is for me lo live, andl 
God dees know that I mean no harm by it. 
And I have always been from first to> 
last and yet remain a true friend to the 
Primitive press and its work. Yet I have 
heen so unsettled in my nvind, that 1 have 
not known what to do; but thanks be lo 
God. I have got much better satisfied than 
I once thought 1 ever should be again. 
When F first moved to Kentucky i do 
think that I was if possible the most dissat- 
isfied man on earth; but I have met with 
so much friendship among, my p*ecioa* 
brethien. both rich and poor r they have ac- 
ted the part of fathers and mothers, broth- 
ers and sisters indeed. I feel myself 
bound to love my neighbors, and as I have 
one mo>t particwlar neighbor who belongs 
to no society, 1 feel bound by duty" to men- 
lion his name to my distant brethren, so 
that if they ever should see him or any of 
his family, t hope they v»iSl- treet them 
well for his kindness to. me; and not o«ly 
lo me, for he is a true friend lo all honest 
and industrious men. 1 here give you hi* 
name, it is Robin Morris. Thin same man 



$ave me a pood plantation when I first 
came to Krntuky, will) a reasonable goo<i 
house and a first-rale orchard on it, and 
told me to stay oo it as long as I lived if I 
saw proper to do so. This is not all, 
brethren, this same man gave me five good 
killing hogs for my meal the first year, and 
bread to eat with it The reason I men- 
tion this man's nrme in particular is, be- 
cause be belong* to no church, but he is a 
true friend to tbe old fashioned Baptists 
and I believe to all honest men; and, in 
«hort, my neighbors are all good and kind 
to me 

And I tell you now, my old daddy Ad 
am's family, while ever you choose rotten 
hearted deceitful men to rule over you in 
church and State ? you need never look for 
better times. 1 am not a prophet, nor the 

You know, my brethren, that bast.ird chil- 
Ircn can get nothing of their father's es- 
tate at law, though they are his children; 
and the reason is, they are not by a lawful 
wife. So likewise the children of anti- 
christ cannot be heirs with the children of 
Jesus Christ. Hagar and her children will 
be cast out, while Sarah and her children 
will fall heir to the kingdom. Here are 
H^gar's children, who depend on their 
good works cast out; here are Sarah's chil- 
dren, who depend on the promise of God, 
which promise or covenant was made be- 
fore the world began. And now, devils, 
with '#11 your lying legions, break it if you 

My dear old fashioned Baptists, I tell 
you that the devil has been employing 
false witnesses ever since \dam was in the 

aon of a prophet, but I now give you my garden, to break this covenant or will that 
opinion and that from the heart, I am bound I God made to his Son, and this covenantor 

to believe that the wrath of Cod is kindled 
against the nations of the earth, and that 
he will shortly send the sword, the famine, 
the pestilence, death and destruction, and 
destroy the greater pari of the earth, if not 

My dear brethren, when'! look all around 
me and see the great curse that the devil 
and his ministers has brought on the human 
family, I am brought to cry out, Lord, 
who will be saved in those days of dark- 
ness? Then 1 can say, none, Lord, but 
the elect lady and her children whom thou 
lovest in truth; while the strange woman 
that is now riding on the four winds of the 
earth, with all her large family, will be 
cast into hell with all the nations that for- 
get God, 

My dear old fashioned Baptist brethren 
and sisters, don't let any of these things 
discourage you; gird on the gospel armor, 
be ready at your geneial's call, fear not 
your enemies; God is king in Zion, he has 
enclosed you with walls and bulwarks of 
salvation around you. The victory is his, 
he will give it to his own children, he will 
not give it to the strange woman nor her 
children, for they are not lawful heirs. 

will is signed and sealed in heaven with 
seven seals, and there js none in heaven 
nor in earth that can open the seals and 
look into this will and read it, but the lion 
of the tribe of Judah And this lion spo- 
ken of is the Lord Jesus Christ, the only 
heir of God the Father; and he, God, has 
given him, Jesus his Son, the -keys of 
death, hell, and the grave; he can open 
and none can shut, he ean shut and none 
can open. 

And now where are you, you poor, for- 
ked tongue dirt-eaters? what sav you to all 
i his, you great fellows who are going about 
setting up missions to make preachers and 
Christians? God pity such preachers and 
Christians as you can make. 1 am asha- 
med of you, you greedy dogs. Brethren, 
did vou ever take notice of those greedy 
dog*, when they go to pray, as the) call it, 
how they will wallop their great white 
eyes, and look like a poor dying call, and 
calling Jesus Christ to come down from 
heaven with his bloody garments and 
shake them among the people.- They even 
command the God of heaven, with as much 
authority as they would a bloody by'.cher 
out af the slaughter pea. Now en ■-, 


j j |ii.\j.rriy,K $4 r"#J.&T. 

nan on earth, with common sense, believe 
that the God of heiven will put up with 
BUch conduct much longer? Thry me 
nothing but mockers of heaven and him 
that dwells therein. I view them even a 
scandal to the oi>en and profinely wicked 
part of the community. lueifer, thou 
king of the brimgione <\en, how long will 
the hlessed God. of heaven suffer \ on 10 go 
on wiih your hellish scheme-* of deception 
and delude A am'* family? 

And now if the forked t,pngi)p mi a'or.a 
ries, those generation of vipeis. yyyn'.t b.j 
too mad at ihis piece, the next I write 1 
will lell them some more about it, as ih< 
naif has not been told yet. MydeiroUl 
fashiont d Baptist brethren, 1 must bid yon 
farewell for the pre-eot, by subscribing 
mys If your friend and bioiher till death. 
jSJl.iC TILLER}'. 


c. and 16 v.: "Take heed unto thyself, and 
unto the doctrine; continue in them: for 
in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, 
and them that hear thee." 

2nd. The delegates met together, and 
the Association was opened with prayer 
and praise by brother James Griffin. 

3rd. Appointed brother Benjamin By- 
nnm, Moderator; and brother Ichabod 
Moore, Clerk; and brother Jesse C. 
Knight, Assistant Clerk; and brethren 
Moses Baker and Sanders P. Cox, a com- 
mittee on finance. 

4th. Ministers, and messengers from 
sister Associations, were invited to take 
seats with us; when brethren William 
Thigpen and John II. Daniel, from the 
Keliukee, handed in a file of their Minutes 
and took seats with us. From Little Ri- 
ver, brethren Bnrwell Temple, John Canna- 
dy, and Rufus Temple, took seats with us, 
and the two latter handed in a file of their 
Minutes. From White ; Cfek\ brethren 

Of the 16M annual session of the C<fn-\ Robert Aman and Aaron Davis took seats 
tenlnea Baptist Association, held at „,;,], llB< afll j jy am \ ec \ j n a file of their Mim 
rfutrey's Creek m.h., Edgecombe uleS- From Country Line, brethren Lat- 
county, North Carolina, on the 23? d, 
24th, and 25th days of October, 1S4G. 

FRIDAY, October 23rd. 
J st. Pursuant to adjournment from last 

year, Elder John Smith preached the In- 

troductory Sermon from 1st Timothy, 4 following table. 

ta and Jesse P. Parker took seats with us, 
and handed in a file of their Minutes. 

5th. Called for the letters from the dif- 
ferent churches in this Association, and 
entered their contents as appears in the 

Namen of Chur'he*, and 

eochties wherein 




a, g 

Antrsy's Oiepk, Bdgeeombe,\ John R MusoreySle'W VVh'oieiiV^nh'n'Gobh,) tj 
Beaver Dam. Lenoir, 
Black Creek. Wayne, 

Friendship, Wmj/n'e, 
Hancock's, Pitt, 
Meadow, Greene, 
Memorial, Wayne, 
Nalmnta, Wayne, 
Newport Chapel,- Wuyne, 
Pleasant Hill, Edgtcnmhr, 
Pleasant Plains, Wayne, 
Red Banks, Pitt, 
Bandy Bottom, Lenoir, 
Tison's, Pitt, 
Toisnot, Edg/eombe, 
Town Creek, Edgecombe, 
Union, Edgecombe, 
White Oak, Edgecombe, 

iParjjam Pocket. A lone** I. V\ illiams,' 
Win [!;ir«. Lirisv Hell. Abraham Lamb,* 

ft. -» *■ 5 

rS" s 

.laco'il-'e'rinLr.Benj Horring,* las R Parker,' 
\i Griffiii, John Sii.ji'i. Win' Mum ford, ■ 1 
Beni Hymim, \\ rn V\ illiam , Jos Ra<-r>erry,; 2 
Woo.lard Holland, Washington Hooks, ! 2 
fnh/i Smith, s h idjrach Pate, Leonard Pale, i 2, 
gandaraPC x. Win R. use, II Howell. I a 1 
Jacob Procter, K'lzy Taylor, Fred Proctor. 
V\ ritjht Si.iih, ' ' 

James CriiTlu. t'nleh Nelson. \ll<vi Storks, 
J R 0rrf'»iri,R'4Jdin Croom, A W Wooton,* 
Samuel Moorn. B Bri'py, Benjamin Corey," 
N T t repr> soiled. 

Moses Ba'keK Jesse C Knight, T Bynnm, 
J H Armstrong, N Taylor, f']ly Rchhins, 
Ichabod Mucre, W M Stanton.JB Woodartl, 

! 2 



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29i 1 00 






I 0(> 
l oO 

1 00 

1 00 

1 50 
J 00 
1 00 




«th. When the letter for Sandy Bottom read, received, and ordered to be printed 
was called for, there were two letters nan- with these Minutes. 

ded in; which the Association received so j 15th. The committee on finance report: 

far as to have them read. And after they | H a | anc e in h»«d last year, $12 00 

were read, it appeared from them that a i Contributions this year, 13 50 

division had taken place in .that churchy 
and brethren Benj. By num and Jacob Her- 
ring being well acquainted with the cir- 
cumstance, by the request of the Associa- 
tion explained the matter in a brief man- 
ner. After which .several explanatory re- 
marks were made by several of the breth- 
ren, and the Association withdrew from 
vthe church, leaving hersejf the privilege to 
receive one or both parties back again if 
.she chose. And after a few minutes, Jo- 
seph R. Crooni petitioned for himself and 
sixteen other members, which was receiv- 
ed into this Association in the name of the 
Sandy Bottom church, and the names of 
ftheir delegates appears in the table of the 

Paid Ichabod Moore for Iran- i 

scribing, superintending and 
dixtribuling last year's Mio- 
utes, 86 00 

Paid for printing last year's 

Minuses, 7 00 

1*5 50 

13 00 

Balance in the hand* of the Trea'r, 3812 50 

16th. Appointed messengers to sister 
Associations: to Kehukee, brethren John 
Smith, James B. Woodard, Benjamin Bri- 
ley, John R. Moore, Jesse C. Knight, and 
Washington M. Stanton; to White Oak, 
Joseph R- Croom, Benjamin Bynum, and 
John R. Moore; to Little River, Jacob 
| Herring, William Bass, John Smith, San- 
7th. Petitionary letter* called for — none , ders P. Cox, and Joseph R. Croom; to 
present. I Country Line and Abbott's Creek Union, 

8th. Called for a Circular Letter, and j Benjamin Bynum, John Smith, and Icha- 
X)ne was handed in, and a committee ap- 1 bod Moore, 
pointed to examine the same, consisting of! nth. Called for letters from sister As- 

ibrethren Burwell Temple, John Cannady, 
.John Smith, Joseph R. Croom, with the 
writer, and to report to-morrow. 

9th. Appointed our next Association to 
be held with the church at Black Creek, 
Wayne county, io commence at 11 o'- 
clock on Friday before the fourth Lord's 
day in October, 1847. 

10th. Appointed brother James Griffin 
io preach the Introductory Sermon, and if 
Jie fail, brother Benjamin Bynum. 

11th. Then adjourned till to-morrow 
10 o'clock. 

SATURDAY, October 24th. 

12th. Met pursuant; ito adjournment 
from yesterday, when the Association was 
opened with prayer and praise by Elder 
John Cannady. 

13th. Called the roll, and noted the ab- 
aentees thus *. 

14th. The committee appointed to exa- 
mine the Circular Letter reported favora- 
bly to ita reception; after whiph it was 


sociations, when brethren Robert Aman 
and Aaron Davis handed in one from 
White Oak, which was read and received. 

18th. Appointed brother Ichabod Moore 
to write a Circular Letter to be printed 
with our next year's Minutes. 

19th. Appointed ministers to preach to>- 
morrovv, brethren John Cannady and Bur- 
well Temple, and that preaching begin 
half after W o'clock, A. M, 

2Qtb. Appointed brother Ichabod Moore 
our treasurer, and to transcribe and super- 
intend the printing and distributing these 
Minutes, and have 450 copies printed, and 
distribute them as last year. 

21st. The Minutes were read and as- 
signed by the Moderator and Clerk, and 
then adjourned to time and place as above 


SABBATH, October 23th. 

Met 81 the stage at haJf past 10. •'flock, 



•when brother John Cannady opened the 
worship of the day and preached from 
Psalms, 127th chapter and 1st verse: "Ex 
£ept the Lord build the house, they labor 
in vain that build it: Except the Lord 
keep the city, the watchman waketh but 
in vain." Brother Burwell Temple fol- 
lowed and preached from Revelation, 31st 
c. and latter part of the 9th verse: "Come 
hither, I wj}l shew thee the bride, the 
Lamb's wife." A large, respectable, and 
well behaved auditory attended the word 
preached, and we hope the Lord God, of his 
goodness and mercy, will bless the same; 
and our prayer is, that the meeting may 
prove a blessing to the neighborhood and 
all those who are interested in the same, 
for Christ's sake. Amen. 


The Contentnea liupti/s .Association to 
the Churches of lohich she is composed, 
sendelh greeting: 

Pear Brethren; God who has been 
in all time, the support of his church and 
solace of his peop'e, h is not v\ it h held from 

from fete operation. No effort of the mind, 
no energy of the body, no sacrifice of the 
band can eradicate ihese things from the 
heart, for they constitute its being. — But, 
brelhn-n, we baye not so learnt I hrist, if 
so be that we have beard him, and have 
been taught by him, as the truth is in Je- 
sus That truth has taught us to know 
SJmelh.'ng of ourselves and something of 
Cod, and Chris', and heaven. Its fi rsl les- 
son aroused us from the slu ub r of carnal 
security in wh'j h we reposed; wa awoke 
and found onrs'lves undone. The spel' 
whi.-h bound us was broken, hut we were 
1 fl weak and powgrbssas the feeble in- 
fant when (jisl it sees the light. Light 
had indeed penetrated the dark recesses of 
our hearts, and exposed to our view some 
of the pollutions there. God jn his mercy 
withholding a full disclosure. Oh, who 
can know the corruption of the human 
heart. Tjme may furrow the cheeks and 
silver the locks of the child of God^-nnd 
con d his life be prolonged till timeshould 
be no more, yet the depths of that hideous* 
ness could not be fathomed by htm, for it 

us in the past year, the mercies of his hand, is d( ceilful above all things and dtsperately 

The enlivening sun and the genial show- 
ers, the products of earth, (and perhaps as 


Brethren, we cannot (rust it; it has 

much as usual the blessings of health) the prompted us, and jt will prompt us again 
charms of nature, and >he sweet converse -to rely upon our own strength; whereas 
of friends, and above all the delightful in- I we aie as weak and helpless now as when 
tgrchange of Chiistian aff cliun, and the | we first believed. The experience of every 
consolation of the gospel of Chr's 1 , have day shows us that in our weakness lbs our 
all been extended to us by a kind Pio.-i- ! strength, that in prosperity and in advei'- 
dence and an indulgent parent. And whit; sit v. in sickness and in death, in trial and 
hare we rendered in return for all tin se in triumph, in joy and in sorrow, in all 
benefits? Alas, brethren, nought but in- ! 1 he virissitud-es of this mortal life, the dust 
gratitude, which swells above our hunt | from whence we sprung, and to which we 
praise* and feeble aspirations, an.! lifts its | musf return, js our proper place. Hiimil* 
brazen front on high and irreverently [. i • y is the atmosphere in which the child of 
claims the bounties of heave 1 as its due God breathes most freely, and in which 

Mature, fallen and corrupt, knows nothing 
of God, or Christ, or. heaven Chn-l is as 
9 root out of dry ground t« i'; the carnal 
mind is enmity to God. Self is the idol 
upon whose altar all the powers arid capa 
bility of soul, spirit and body were offered 
Np. No »£», sex or condition is exempt 

be i* enabled to do all thjngs through 
Christ which sttengiheheth him. But this 
ies on, engraven on our hearts by the spir- 
it of God, not only taught us our weak- 
ness am\ nothingness, it not only laid open 
the fountain of our pollution, hut it taught 
us something of God, and Christ, and 



heavpn; it directed in to the tree of life,? ince of faithfully discharging them, where- 

whose leaves were for llie healing of the 

nations. We had all our li\es, like the 

rest of mankind, heard of Jesn«; bui oui 

eyes had never beheld the King in his 

beauty. W'e had all our lives?, heard ot 

his mercy .and kindness, hut the half had 

not been told us. It was when ah 8< II- same expense, and are ajl destined to t he 

righteousness and self-dependence failed, j fime mansions of glory. Then fore, let 

by God is glorified, and the fruits of right- 
eousness abound in the Christian life. Ac- 
cording to our views of the plan of salva- 
tion, and the economy of God's grace, all 
( hristians stand ui>on a level in Christ Je- 
sus. I'hev have all been redeemed at the 

when vvreiched, arid mi-eiable, and poor, 
and blind, and naked, we hit our condem- 
nation; lit was then that his mercy, in all 

us consider what are the mutual duties ot 
church members. — Everv act of members, 
either in public or private, which is ealcu- 

its richness and abundance, sheheied out ' lated to influence in any degree the dis- 
wearv sinking souls, and fillel us with joy ' cipJine oi' the churches, it is conceived is 
.unspeakable and fujl ofglorv Hut it ".as properly embraced within the compass of 
not merely the kindness of Jesus in lifnng the question. 

us above the ruin of fallen and depraved The government of a church signifies 

nature; it was not alone ihe sense of sale- someihmg more than the business ordina- 
ty from impending destruction that glad- nly transacted on the day* of meeting. It 
gened our hearts and tuned out tongues; reaches to all that salutary kind of influ- 
tltoe merey of God though extending far enee, which the grave and <nore orderly 
beyond our utmost thoughts, and running members exercise over those of an oppo- 
over in regard to our deliverance, had not site character. The conversation and ex- 
been exercised at the expense of justice; ample of such , persons create a sort of 
for then our cup of rejoicing could soon wholesome government over others — con- 
have been exhausted; bot mercy and truth nee ted with which is the Vt ry important 
had met together, righteousness and peace consideration ol watch care. W 7 hen Ihe 
had kissed each other. Justice had reeei- primitive disciples gave themselves to the 
yed infinite satisfaction in the surety's Lord, and to one another, one of the es- 
bJood. we ha<l been introduced to the sential benefits designed to he secured was 
privileges and immunise** of the Father's watch care. They did not unite to resist 
house, where Jesus reignsand where there the authority of the Sand, which held its 
is no law but love. 

From hence the holiest duties flow, 
Of saints above and saints below. 

And now, brethren, as the object con- 
templated by a t ircular Letter, is to ad- 
dress personally each individual member 
composing all the churches of the Associa 

sword at their bosoms, nor to enhance their 
temporal interest. No, there was a high- 
er and nobler object held in anxious con- 
templation, it was the assisting each other 
to lead a life so holy and harmless, both in 
word and deed, that their persecutors 
should be constrained to ackowledge they 

tjon, and to apply the consolations as well na< J been with Jesus; (and such brethren, 
a* the precepts ol the gospel to each mind j should be our course in the present day, 
and heart; as such, it not only becomes; f°'' we are proscribed and every where 
our duty to instruct and comfort the Chris- spoken against.) But they were too well 
tian, by Ihe solacing doctrine of the elec- acquainted with the natural depravity of 
tion ol God and all its happy eonsequen- 'heir hearts to expect to accomplish their 
cea; but it becomes our duty also to point ! object, without a constant and sharp sighted 
out to the Christian those duties incumbent ' watch care. Self interest and prejudice 
on him from the relationship he sustains to j blend in us, and we therefore need the im- 
God, and to urge upon him the import- 1 partial minister, who will survey our ae- 



rttlMITlVE KArMfPf! 

lions and point out .oil* faults, destitute of conducted, that each member mii;ht e-X> 
lhat interest which is inseparable fiora press his approbation or disapprobation by 
righteous self. Hence *e discover the . his vote, which, if silence vyere to decide, 
necessity of brotherly rebuke, which is he might not express. 

one of the great Christian duties inculcated I It is the duty of every church to frame a 
.by the Saviour in the 18 c. of Matt, and if decorum, or a rule of government, predi- 
those in.cipienl measures there introduced ca'ed upon the scriptures, and each new 
by him, were more closely adhered to in j member should be well acquainted with 
fhe present day, no doubt but our churches those rules. We are aware that there sre 
would be more healthy and prosperous, some who are opposed to decorums or 
There was a faithfulness in the perform- creeds, alleging that the Hible is a suffi 
#nce of this du£v among the primitive dis- cient rule of faith and practice. I hat we 
jrjisciplesof Jesus, which is arranger jn the cheerfully admit, but thai is no ground of 
church in these davsof worldly conformity, objection. To those that J.hus object, we 
I heir own Ijableness to err js urged as would say, the minister takes his text and 
an excuse by many for neglecting lo rebuke deduces therefrom the doctrine inculcated 
others. But the secret Ql the is, we jn the scripture by making quotations, or 
are too unfaithful, too much afraid of the bringing up certain passages or subsidia r 
eross to discharge these duties, as it i?e ries op proofs qf hjs views. BJow jt you ob- 
comes the sell-denying Christian. The jVct to the creed pi decorum, the preacher 
spirit of this plea for neglecting to rebuke, should continue to quote scripture in sue 
when the good of wanderers requires it, cession, till proof amse to demonstration, 
would relax if not de»i>oy every nerve of and not to seleei certain passages, for what 
Christian discipline. David remained in 19 a cre^d or rules qf church government 
sensible of his crime umil Nathan rebuked but eertain passages of scripture, so that the 
him; and Peter had no compunction of f ye may catch them at a single glance, 
conscience for his profane denial of Jesus, We have a cusom among u« (and one of 
till his peuetraiiiig e\ e called up the trans much importance too.) for church mem- 
action of a previ. us hour. hers w)ien speaking in debate, tq rise from 

When the Christian ei rs, which all are their seats and ad<|ie>8. the Moderator; 
jiable to dq, & such error is pointed out to though sometimes with regret we see 
him in the spjjii of ii)eeUness ? he is always mernuers k<-ep their seats, while sheaking 
ready to make suitable concession. I he in conference. I^ow if it is the du- 
duties named are common even day tlu? ty of a church member, when speaking in 
Jies; but there are others to be performed debate, to rise from his seat and address 
by the church, as a body. Heie motions (he Moderator, could there be any impro- 
are to be made and seconded, subjecs 10 piieiy jn having it §0 expressed jn the 
be discussed candidly and I'reeL , and votes rules of decorum, We expect the Mode- 
to be given. That manner which obtains rator qf a church to have a|l her business 
in some churches of al owing silence lo ile- conducted in good order, and yet there are 
«ide a great portion; of the qnestiqns lor no pules bv which he op the church are tq 
ponsideration, we conceive to be a subject be governed. And suppose, as is some 
well worthy of our deliberation; and in all times the ca<=p, that some member may he 
transactions of importance, thp decision frequently absent from church meeting*, 
should be known by the expressed will of umil the feelings of other members be'-ome 
th.e church; for church acts not only relate , hurt; you have no rules by which you 

lo ppr peace and happiness here, as church 
members, but they are predicated upon 
the authority of Christ; and should be so 

dare eay to him it is his duty 10 attend con- 

It is true, the scripture eays, not forsa,- 



iking the assembling of ourselves together; 

but who is more competent to determine' have it In the fulness o( the revelation of 

the times and places of assembling, ihan 
the church collective!},? And we all know, 
that it is the duty of all church members, 
without some good cause of absence, to at- 
tend .their church meetings. And cutild it 
do any harm to say, in a rule of the church, 
that it should be the duty of each male 
member in particular, ,to attend as above, 
and ih^n in the event of such repeated ab- 
sence, ft would become the duty of the 
church to notice such absence. 

Hut some will say, if members are not 
influenced by the love of God and a love 
for his cause .to attend, it would be use less 
,to coerce attendance by a church disci- 

election and soverign price. You now 

God through the ministry, by which it is 
apparent that wc lave this tteasure in 
earthen vessels, that the excellency of 'he 
power may be of God and not of us Ye», 
we have still to a want of reforma- 
tion in Christian duties, the faithful per- 
formance of which exert so happy an influ- 
ence over the church- s, and reflects so 
high a degree of praise to our heavenly 

How many of u?, ,in the enjoyment of 
a ble<sed gospel and Christian privilege*, 
employ .those means by which we are to 
grow in grace and in the .knowledge of our 
Lord and Sayieur, Jesus Christ. .Who of 

pline. So say we. But we contend that us obey the injunction of the Saviour, 

if members by neglecting to attend their 
church meetings reproach the cause and 
wound the feelings of other members, that 
the church should have some rule t<> re- 
claim them, or to cease to be accountable 
for their acts. For it is belter for one re- 
fractory member to suffer, than fur the 
whole church to suffer, or the cause be 
brought into disrepute. 

To all religious bodies, there should be 

•'search the scriptures, for in them you 
think you have eternal life, and they are 
they that testify of me." How many of 
us call our families together at evening, or 
morning, and instruct them from the t s,crip- 
tures, and invoke the messing of God up- 
on them and us; or do we forget the grrat 
responsibility that rests upon us as the 
heads and dire Mors of those the Lord has 
given into our charge, and for the welfare 

wholesome rules of government, to which , f whom we feel so much anxiety. It is 
they could at any time appeal lor the ad- j therefore the duly of each Christian parent, 
juslmenl of all difficulties. Finally wje j )0 order his household according to the di- 
cannot terminate thai portion of our sub j reetton given in (he scripture, and if we 
ject, which relates to Christian duties, . W ould realize the blessing, we must learn 
without mentioning some otheis, though ; tnat j t j s j„ fij 9 deeds that the righteous ate 
not immedntely connected with the gov I blessed. 

ernment of ihe church Brethren, who of B u t how many professing parents do we 
you but rWe witnessed, with gratitude to no w address, whose children have never 
/lod. the reformat'on in the churches, in heitfd ihem pray for them, and how will 
doctrine which has been brought about, our children know we desire their salva- 
within a few years, by those who have so t j on am \ wrlfaie. unless we point them to 

ably defended the truths of the gospel, and 
by the withdrawal of the chun-hes from 
the popular innovations that were corro 
ding her vitals. And whereas, the dear 
childien of God were deprived, to a con- 
siderable extent, of that gospel that dis- 
claims all human merit, and predicates the 
salvation of the lost sinner, upon the righ- 
teousness of Jesus, as being the result' o' 

the Saviour and ask his pardoning mercy 
upon them. And though we may offer up 
our secret prayers, and shed a thousand 
tears before the Almighty for our chil- 
dren, yet this does not exempt us from 
that important duty, in view of which, the 
patriarch Joshua exclaimed, "Let others 
do as they niay, as for me and my house, 
we will serve the Lord." But in passing 



from these duties, we wish to impress on 
3'our minds, 1 1 1 m t. your obligation to per- 
form them, arises not from the relation 
ship you sustain to man, but to ( '-oil A ml 
if the love and merry of t.»od, made mani- 
fest Co us through Chrisi, have imposed 
these duties upon us, how can we omit 
them? for it is through the manifestation 
of God's mercy, that we have a knowledge 
of Jesus Christ, whom lo know is life eter- 

But, brethren, the knowledge of Christ, 
though constituting eternal life, is as im- 
perf cl as the knowledge of ourselves. 
Here we know but in p u t — we see through 
a glass daikly, — the lull display of the 
brightness of the Father's glory is not 
adapted lo human sense, for no man can 
see God and l:\e It was only by being 
veiled in a body of flesh, that the Godhead 
could become visible to, and acceptable to 
mortal touch: hence, the words of oui 
Lord, ''He that hath seen me, hath seen 
the Father; and yet the grandeur of Jesus 
cannot be fully comprehended by us, for 
he was without sin. (logged with the in 
firmitiesand frailties of his people, we may 
follow stumhlingly in his footsteps. Our 
longing eyes may trace indistinctly the 
pathway to gloiy, which he has marked 
out; but it is reserved for another state of 
being, to see him as he is, and to know 
him as we are known. We have learned 
to admire his wisdom and his righteous- 
ness in the scheme of redemption, where 
nothing is left to human imbecility or lo 
blind chance; but all our interests, tempo- 
ral and eternal, are bound up in the sure 
mercies of David, where our own righte- 
ousness is cast aside as a worthless thing, 
and in its stead we have the soul sustaining 
the substantial assurance, that the Lord is 
our righteousness. Brethren, do we want 
more? Can our hungry souls long for bet- 
ter food? 

Is not the grace of God adapted lo eve- 
ry exigency and to all our necessities? 
Certainly it is. And can we desire again 
to be in bondage to the weak and beggar- 

ly elements? No, the knowledge of Christ 
is far superior to earthly paradise. The 
knowledge of Christ is heaven, for where 
t'hiist is, there is heaven. Now Jesus 
dwells with his church, his bride; he 
reigns in Zion, and if we are his, our names 
are wiitten in heaven He bears our 
name* on the palms of his hands, our bo- 
dies are the temples of the Holy Ghost. 
Yt s. those vile bodies, though defiled with 
sin, to the dust, are the habitations of the 
spirit of Christ; for if we have not the spi- 
rit of Christ, we are none of hi*. These 
same bodies, after they have suffered the 
penalty annexed to transgression, when ev- 
ery thing earthly shall have been swallow- 
ed up in the grave, these same corruptible 
bodies shall be raised incorruptible, and 
fashioned like unlo the body of Christ. 

Here we have but an imperfect view of 
the gloties of that state, like the infant up- 
on whose feeble vision surrounding objects 
make but a slight and transient impiession. 
Here it doth not appear what we shall be, 
but we know that when he shall appear, we 
shall be like him, for we shall see him as 
he is. It is by this hope we are saved, sa- 
ved from the allurements and temptations 
of the world, saved from its follies and ex- 
travagancies, saved from the promptings 
of our own deceitful and wicked hearts; 
and indeed but for this hope, why do we 
encounter the scoffs and derision of an un- 
godly world? Of what advantage all our 
suffering and patience, if the dead rise 

But, brethren, be not deceived; so bright 
a dawn cannot be shrouded in eternal 
night, so blissful an expectation cannot 
terminate in disappointment; lor Christ 
has risen from the dead, and as he is our 
life when he shall appear, then shall we al- 
so appear with him in glory. This cheer- 
ing, this glorious hope, should encourage 
us to endure, with patience, the tribula- 
tions of the way, to render our bodies a liv- 
ing sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, 
which is our reasonable service. 

Finally, brethren, let us remember, Uy 



members as well as ministers, thai dealh 
will soon put a period to otlr active dutie-*, 
thai in a fe»v short years ihe labors of the 
young of this body, as well as the aged, 
will lerminaie, and wo shall be called lo 
render op an account of our stewardship. 

The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be 
with you ;dl. Amen. 



This number closes the subscription 
year of the Primitive Baptist. The pa- 
pers of those who have directed them to 
be discontinued, will be stopped unless 
their subscription is renewed—where we 
have not been thus notified, the papers 
will be continued as heretofore. 

In consequence of having the Minutes 
of several Associations to print, this num- 
ber of the Primitive has been somewhat 
delayed, but we will soon make up the 
time. The Minutes of the S. C. Primi- 
tive Baptist Association will appear in our 
next, together with a receipt for the mo- 
ney sent. 

Those friendly to the continuance of the 
Primitive Baptist paper are informed, that 
it is in contemplation to issue it at the 
close of the ensuing year from perhaps a 
more favorable location in this- State, un- 
der a competent Editor, and semi-monthly 
as heretofore. 


Gum Neck, Tyrrell county, N. C. 
Dec. 18th, 1846. 

Dear brethren and sisters in 
Christ, whom I hope the Lord hath 
brought me to love: The time hath come 
that it is my desire to write to you, but 
not being able to admonish my brethren 
with any thing worth much attention, I 
shall only give a few sketches of what I 
Would wish to tell; but not being willing 
to crowd your valuable paper with my 
scribbling, I will cut it short. 

That valuable little messenger, called, 

the Primitive Baptist, when I read it, 
gives great delight to me to heaf from 
brethren in every quarter almost, content 
cling for that faith which Was once deliv» 
ered to the saints, and for the truth as it is 
in Jesus. Thy servant is notable to assist 
in the conflict, but is a Well wisher to all 
who are. Now, brethren, if in these perN 
Ions times I dan be allowed to speak for* 
myself as was Paul when accused by his 
enemies, I will give you a few words of 
the dealings of God with my sold, if he 
ever has dealt with me in and through a 
Mediator. Being taught, the way of life 
by the law of Moses, which was and is the 
manner of the day in which We live, so I 
was convicted of sin and being called con- 
verted, I joined the Methodists and So went 
on trying to do the best I knew, and 
thought 1 was almost a Christain. 

This began in the year 1836, which 
was the 1 8th year of my age. So I con- 
tinued a Methodist after modern order for 
the space of five years, which brought 
1841; at which time the Lord revealed 
himself to me as a God of terrors, if ever 
at all. Then oh how sad the state of my 
soul. I found myself in a deplorable con- 
dition indeed. Then was I brought as it! 
were to the very bar of God, arraigned' 
and tried, and found guilty. There all 
my secret sins were made manifest, and I 
was for the first time given to see my bad 
heart. After all my outward performan- 
ces I found I was a sinner of all men the 
worst. The law by which I thought t©» be 
justified, condemned me and became a 
killing letter to me. Then I knew not 
what to do, but being brought by a way I 
I knew not of, I saw that Jesus Christ the 
Son of God stood as an advocate for poor 
sinners, holding forth his righteousness 
for their justification. Then before his 
feet did I humbly fall, imploring him to 
have mercy on me a sinner; and thus the 
law was mj> schoolmaster to bring me un- 
to Christ. While I remained pleading for 
mercy, I received a most glorious answer, 
saying, my grace is sufficient for thee;. 
which made a great calm in my soul. 

This took place in the year 1843, and 



being led by the Holy Ghost, F believe, to 
hear an old Baptist preach, it sounded to 
me like truth, for he preached my very 
experience; and it seemed to me as ii an 
angel had came down from heaven, having 
the everlasting gospel to preach. And to 
me it was as a great sound of a trumpet, 
that spake peace to my soul. This was in 
the summer of the same date aforesaid; 
artdl went home rejoicing much at the 
heavenly fruit I received that day. And 
so I went on, sometimes mourning, some- 
times rejoicing, until the opportunity arri- 
ved for me to meet the church a second 
time, and to hear the gospel preached. 
Then was there a door opened and I offer- 
ed myself and was received April 23, and 
was baptised oh the 24th, 1844, with my 
beloved wife\ 

In those days, my dear brethren, my 
(foul was' lifted up and it seemed that winter 
si nd clotitls were all passed away;' 

And I' could sing in jbyful lays! 
My great deliverer's Worthy praise. 

So have I been ever since, sometimes 
up and then doWn, and thusT pass thro' 
this howling wilderness to the promised 
land of rest, if I' am not deceived. So 
pray for me and mine, dear brethren, and 
leave the event to God. Excuse my 
seribbling, and do s with' this as you think 
proper; if you lay it by it will not insult 
me. So I am yours in the bonds of love. 

To him who "ought me when a stranger, 

May I endless praise ascribe; 
To him who shed his blood to save me, 

And washed me in the cleansing tide. 

Then, O my" soul!' givd adoration, 

To Christ who ope the fountain wide, 

Thai thou might prove his great salvation, 
By coming'near the SaviourVsidp. 

Then for the grace of God abounding, 
To wretched sinners such as I; 

C" may we ever be surrounding, 

The throne of grace with voices high. 

Through faith in Christ, lhe Mediator, 
Is brought salvation for the poor; 

To him be glory, glory, glory, 
Honer'and praise forever more. 


Mobile, Alabama, Nov. 3, 1846. 

Dear Brethren: It is through the 
goodness of God I am blest with this op- 
portunity to say something about it, un- 
worthy a9 I feel. . The founding of elec- 
tion upon grace affords us such useful in- 
struction, as to fall down and adore the 
great God, for this unspeakable discovery 
of his love to men. It is one of the richest 
mercies that he would not entrust in our 
own keeping; that another, and he one 
that had not the least need of us, should be 
more provident for us, than we would 
have been for ourselves; that our chiefest 
interest should have the highest security; 
that it should be founded upon grace, the 
attribute which our great king most de- 
lights to honor; and that he should do it, as 
it were, against our wills. For so it isj in- 
asmuch as to graft our happiness oil the 
will of another, is contrary to nature?; of all 
bottoms, we should not have pitched it 1 
there; and yet, in truth; no other' ground 
would hold us. His name may well be 
called wonderful; "it is not after the mari- 
ner of men: this is the Lord's doing, and 
let it be marvellous in'our eyes." Psalms, 
cxviii. 23. 

It shows what reason we have to discard 
and cast off forever that groundless and 
blindfold opinion, which lays the stress of 
.salvation on a thing of nought; for what 
else is the will of a frail and mutable man? 
To forsake a living"fonntain, and rest on a' 
cistern, a broken cistern, what folly is it? 
To cast our eagles' wings, and trust to' a 
p'osl out of joint, who would do it that is 
not void of understanding? Surely Job 
was aware of it, when he profe3seth,-he 
"would not value a life that depended on 
his own righteousness." Job, ix. 16. 21. 

The grace of God is a little beholden to 
that doctrine, which would give the glory 
of it to a graceless being; and as little have 
the souls of men to thank ii for. It feeds 
them with dreams' and fancies, which, 
when they awake, will leave them "hard- 
ly bestead and hungry: and it shall como 
to 'pass,' that when they shall be hungry, 

N&MintK BArrtST. 


fhe.y shall Tret themselves, and curse their 
king and their god, and look upward." 
I8a. viii. 21. 

Therefore, sit hot under the shadow 
of that gorird; it hath a worm at the 
foot; and they will not be held guiltless 1 , 
nor kept from the scorching sun, whoever h 


m'ent for the final perseverance of be* 
1 fevers. 

Brethren, much more might be said on 
this" subject. It is' growing late. I must 
come to a close. F subscribe myself your 
unworthy sister in Chris't. 

Mrs. "& f. LLOYD: 

they be that shelter themselves in the co 
ert of it. It is a spark of men's own kin- 
dling, wherewith, thb' compassed round, 
they will He dK)wn in sorrow, chap. r. If. 
Therefore, let those who disrelish this 
doctrine, because it founds not salvation 
upon itself. Look well to their standing, 
aud shift frotn it in time; fall i'n practicab- 
ly with the doctrine of election, as" found- 
ed upon gratj'e, as" it was grace which gave 
you yoUr elect being. So let it be your 
spirit and utmost endeavor, to improve 
this your being to the praise of that 

II Givci* the sole honor of election's origi- 
nal: suffer not freewill grace, or any thing 
else, to pretend toa sha'fe in the parentage 
Of it: let not your faith, whether foreseen 
or perfected, be reckoned the ground work 
or motive of your election; it is a branch 
of it; and the branch, you' know, "cannot 
bear the root." Rom. xi. 18. Even faith 
itself must not, and if it be right faith' it 
will not, "gather where it hath not strew- 
ed." Own nothing therefore, that may 
detract from the honor that is due to sove- 
reign grace. 

2. Bear yourself lipbri this grace, against 
ail your weakness and un worthiness: let 
hot these discourage you, but father plead 
them as occasions" by which grace will be 
manifested and magnified, and shew itself 
to be what it is. By this, I hope, the pro- 
position is made evident, with something 
of its usefulness, namely, that whatever 
things are requisite to salvation are freely 
given of God to all the elect, and" wrought 
in them effectually by his divine power,as 
a part of that salvation to which they are 
appointed; and are all contained in the de- 
cree of election; and I cannot but reckon 
it one, and that a principal part of those 
works of God that stand forever; and is 
A gpod istroduction into, v**, and argu- 

. . . j , , 

Communion. C. M. 
That awful night, this glorious rite, 

Our blessed Saviour gave; 
His death to show, while here below, - 

With all his power to save. 

The bread he broke, before the stroke 

Of death was on him laid; 
This glorious' sign was" all divine, 

And he our priest was made. 

Thiffwine, like blood, to sliow the flood 

That he for us" mus't shed; 
The time draws nigh that he must die, - 

Be numbered with - the dead. 

But he must rise above the skies, 
And leave this" world behind} 

The way to show, that We must go, - 
Eternal life to find. 

Exalted high, no more to die, 1 

Our advocate is made; 
And now he stands, and shows his handB^' 

He is our royal head. 

And we must go, from here below, 

To join our glorious head; 
So we must die, in dust must lie,' 

Be raised frOm the dead. 


Macon, Ga. May 6, 1846: 


tfoRTH Carolina. C.B'.HftRsell,^«/?ta^»W^i' 
R. M. G. Moore, <iermantpn. W. w. MnfceIliP#'-" 
mouth. Benji By'niim, Nahuntd Depot, H.Artf- 
jz,Jlveraibitrd' . BurwellTemple,.ftu/er'^ft. Tlfbs'e 
Bagley, SmUhJi'eld. James" R*. Sasse'r, fVaj/Hei- 
boro\ L. Br Bennett, Healhvilte. Cor*8 Cana- 
day, Cravemyille William Welch; JthboWt 
Creeki Ai B, Bains - , Fr, Starihope. C. T." Saw- 
yer, Powell's Point. H . W il kerson, West Point. J. 
Miller, Milton Park. Isaac Meekins and S&muel 
Rogers, Columbia, Wmi Mi Rushing' WkiW» 
Stmt. Jarei-s IJ. Smith-, W'rtmfntfwK >k«rt> fter- 



ring, Gotdsboru', S. Tatum'. Elizdheth City. Ad- 
am Hooker, Salem Church, Abnef Lamb, Cam- 
den C, H, 

South Carolina. VVm. 8. Shaw, Rock Mills 
W. B. Vi'llard, Sr. Aiken. M.McGraw, Brown's. 
3. Li Simpsony Wi/msfivro*. Jr Gi Bowers, Whip- 
py Swamp,- Wrm Nelson, Camden. G, Wat 
thews, Germanvilie. J. C. Lucas, Lexington C, H. 
Amos Hill, pleasant View. 

Georgia. John MeKenney, Forsyth. Thomas 
Amis, Lexington. John M. Ffatd 1 , Macon. John 
W.Turner, Fitment Hill. Wlliam Trice and 
William' £>. Taylor, Tlionaston. Ezra McCrary, 
IVarrcnton. Prior Lewis, Thomasvilh, 1, Las- 
setter, Vernon. Abner Durham, Greenville. Geo. 
LeeVes.Mil/crfgevi/le. W.J. Parker, Chenuha. .LP. 
Ellis, Finevi/fe, F,Haggard,.?Me/7.s. A.MiThomp- 
son, Fort Vutfey, D'amtel 0' Nee\ ,OliveGn>ve. John 
Wayne, Cain*.?, R, S, Hamrick, Carroillon. EL 
Smith,-Crtn>/.S , />W?ij»' Ptoses H. Denman, Marietta 
Jelhro Q-A\es>r .^htlkcrry Grove. Isham Fdwards, 
Marion'.- Joseph Daniel, Fishes. R, L. Hayne, 
Lebanon. T. w. Dearing, Cotton River. E. Davis, 
Gret n BRmt 

Ala^bainFa. A.Keaton,j5f/7«on/. H. Dance and 
W. Bfo-rfett, ■ Eufaw. E.Bell, Liberty Hill. L 
G. Walter, Milton. H. Williams. Haiana, J. 
Daniel, Claiborne, E. Daniel, Church Hill, I. 
Carpenfer,Sr. Clinton, J. \fc.Qneen, lA/wndesboro'' . 
W in/VnWaj, Mount Moriah, B Upchiirch, Bene 
vola. Si Hamrick. Ffarrlersville. JaroesSi Mor- 
gan, Dayton, Rufus Daniel, James/on, Joel Hi 
Chambless, Loweville. F. Pickett, China Grove, 
John w. Pellum, Frank/in. .John H-arreiT,- Mia, 
nouri. Win, Thomas, Gainer's Store. E. M. A- 
mos, Midway* Allen Moore, Intercourse, John 
Bryan, Sr. Fullersvil&f Benj>. Lloyd, Wetumpka 
N. N.Barmore, Mill Pert, ^.'rTalW, F'inllala. 
Vincent Williams, Mobile. Young' Smith. Eufau- 
la. T.J. Foster, Bell's Landing. Henry Oason. 
Monticello. Henry Petty,- Fist;en>vi\\e. J), fe 
P. King, PswanWi John whitehead, Jr. P/ere- 
aan* -*la«i». M. W. Harris, Bridges; He. R'lly 
UifiirrWiY, Mbtblke, Thomas TWnSena, Fork- 
land. Kohert Grady, Bluff I'm-/. K. R. Thomp- 
son Centrevilk, J>aiues F. Watson, Geneva. 

Tennessek Michael Burkhalter. Jaspe . V\ in 
Croom, Jackson. Solomon Ruth, Wesley Ira E, 
Douthit, Lynchburg. (ipo I'lirner. ff'o rrrly, 
Henry Randolph. Smdysvii/c. Pleasant A Witt. 
Busselville, William ivleBee. Old Town Creek, 
A. Burroughs, Moore's >t Roods, lamps Shelton. 
Portersville- Sharfraeft Mnstain, Lewislmrg. Na- 
than S. McDowell, Tazewell, Henry Turner, Fay- 
ctfevllle. Tsaac Moorp, Ripley, lames Sailing. 
Bull Run. 

Mississippi,- William H-uddleston and R-d- 
muiid Beeman, Thomas/on Simpson Parks and 
Samuel Canterberry, Lexington. John S, Daniel, 
Cot/on Gin Fort. Mark Prewett, Aberdeen. 
Wm. Davis, Houston. C. Nichols. Stump Bridge. 
Wooten Hill, Cooksville, John Davidson. C U r 
rollUm. Thomas Mathews, Mark Hawk Jan.e- 
Lee, Beatie's Bluff. James T, S. CH>f«tferhaiTi 
Grub Springs, James Crawley, Minghoaia. Jos. 
Edwards, New Albany. Thomas C. Hunt, Mc- 
Lead's. John Halbert, Nashville. Wilson Hunt, 
Stewart's, John Scallorn. Pleasant llmni/. John 
Kinnard, Daley's X Roads, Ki B. Staltings, De- 

Louisiana. Thos Paxton, Greensboro'. Jas»- 
Pet kins and Needham Coward, Big woods. Lr 
G. MoGaiighey, Ballieu's Ferry. Benjamin Gar- 
lington, Nr greet. 

Florida. Harlwell Walkins, Monticello. Lew 
is Tucker, Carnphellt&rt. 

Arkansas". Johm Hart, Saline. George w^ 
Rosrprs. Arkadrlp'Lia, (LB. Lander's - , Union C.H 
J. M. C. Robertson, Filter's, John Honea, Ozark,- 

Missouri. John P. McDowell, New Market, 

Illinois. John \lsbury. Lick Creek. 

Indianai wilson Oonnar. Co\urrtbia, 

Ohio. John EL Moses, Qcrmnnton. 

Kent'uckv. Washngton Watts, Cornelius- 
ville. Levi Lancaster Can/on. Skelton Renfro> 
Cumber/and Ford. Tandy James,- Somerset, Isaac' 
H nrrr, Rome. 

Virginia. R\i<\o\p\\Rorer, Berger's Store. Wririi 
w. West, Wheat ley Will him BarrtSY Aavis' 
Mills, Jesse Lankford. Bowers's, A- Rorer, Edge. 
hill Thomas Flippen Laurel Grove. Thomas 
w Walton, Pleasant Gap. Levi Bishop, Sinclair'* 

Pennsvlvania. Joseph Hughes, Gum Tree* 

New York. Gilbert Beebe, New Vernon. 

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Nicholas Darnell, 1 
Robert Smith, 2 
Mrs. M. T. I-Joyd, I 
Mrs. R Hairston, 1 
Ichabotl Moore, 12 
James Weed, 1 

E. G. Clark, 1 

Isaiah Parker, 2 
Allen Nettles, 1 

Joseph Aldridge, 1 
Bardy Britt, 1 

Wilson Oliver, V 
Q. A. Ward, 1 

John Kennard, X 
Chiles Garrett, 1 
A. W. Herring, i 
James Walker, 1 
R. W. Smith, I 

J. B. Crow, 1 

Henry Cason v I 

Geo.W. Rogers-, $VO> 
Jona. Eliisj It 

C. B. Landers* 1\ 
Jacob- Gt Bowers-, 5» 
Michael Griggs, II 
M. BiwkhaUery 
David Daniel, 
W. R. Taylor, 
James Shelton, 
Samuel Forest,, 
Rudolph Rorer,. 
R. Manning, 
J 1 os. Barker, 
C. Roit«e, 
Wm. Harris-, 
David Gomto^. 
L. H. Henderson^ I 
Benj. J-enk^Tis-,. I 
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Vol. 11. 


No. 13. 



ciation, brethren David Duncan «nd Mar- 
shal MeGraw; brother Jonathan Mickle to 
write the letter. Tothe Lexington Asso- 
ciation, brethren John L.Simpson, J. C 
Lucus, B. Taylor; brother William Nelson 
to write the letter. To the Bear Creek 
Association, brethren Daniel Wooten, 
Amos Hill, William Nelson; brother J. L* 


Of the Smith Carolina Primitive Bap- 
tist Association, at her seventh anni- 
versary, held with the Beaver Bam Simpson to write the letter 
church, Kershaw dirtrict, So. Ca.,\ 9th. Called for, read, and adopted the 
commencing an Saturday before the Circular. 

second Lord's Bay in October, 1846. ] loth. Adjourned till Monday morning, 
1st. The Introductory Sermon was de- 9 o'clock. Prayer by brother Amos Hill, 
livered by brother Amos Hill, from He- 1 11th. Sabbath morning. The services 
brews, 13th chap. 14th verse: "For here of the day were introduced by brother 
ha*e- we no coiitf nixing. city, but we seek Marshal MeGraw, from Revelation, 20 
one to come." - j chap. 12 verse: "And I saw the dead, 

2nd. After a few minutes intermission, small and great, stand before God; and the 
repaired to the school house. The Asso- books were opened: and another bock was 
ciation was opened by prayer by brother j opened, which is the book of life, and the 
Daniel Wooten. Called for and read the dead were judged out of those things which 

letters from the charche»and enrolled the 
names of the delegates. 

3rd. Elected brother Marshal MeGraw, 
Moderator; and brother William Nelson, 

4th: Called for corresponding letters — 

5th. Read the Constitution and Rules of 

6th. Agreed that we discuss alf requests 
and queries in the body. 

7th. Agreed to> leave it with the church 
at this place to arrange the preaching for 

8th. Appointed messengers to sister 
Associations, viz: To the Springfield Asso- 

were written in the books according to 
their works." 

Followed by brother William Nelson,, 
from Genesis, 35 chap. 3rd Terse: "And 
let us arise and go up to Bethel, and I will 
make there an altar unto God, who an- 
I swered me in the day of my distress, and 
was with me in the way which I went." 

Followed by brother John L. Simpson, 
in a very animating exhortation, singing 
and prayer. 

After a few minutes intermission the 
services of the day were continued by 
brother Daniel Wooten from Galatians, 
4th chap. 1 and 2 verses: "Now I say that 
the heir as long as he is a child, ditfereth 



nothing from a servant though he be lord 
of all; but is under tutors and governors 
until the time appointed of the Father.'' 

Followed by brother Samuel Ham- 
monds, from the 46 Psalms, 4th and 5th 
verses: "There is a river the streams 
whereof shall make glad the city of God. 
The holy place of the tabernacles of the 
most high God is in the midst of her, she 
shall not be moved; God shall help her and 
that right earlj'." 

The congregation by far the greater part 
were not only attentive in observing good 
order, but were serious and from appear- 
ances, we are comforted with the belief 
that the word of our God was precious to 
many souls present. 

12th. Monday morning, 9 o'clock. 
Met according to adjournment. Prayer 
by brother Amos Hill. Commenced the 
business of the Association. 

13th. Called the roll and those absent 
marked defaulters. 

14th. Read the Minutes of Saturday. 
15th. Received seven dollars twenty- 
one cents and one fourth, for the printing 
of our Minutes, and handed the same to 
the Clerk. 

16th. Agreed that Mr. George Howard 
be requested to print our Minutes in the 
Primitive Baptist papei, and as many in 
pamphlet form as he can for the money 

17th. Took the query from Jackson's 
Creek church: Is the washing of feet con- 
sidered a public ordinance of the Christian 
church under the New Testament dispen- 

18th. Agreed that the query be contin- 
ued until our next annual meeting, leaving 
it for the consideration of the churches 
composing this body; at which time the 
churches, by letter, or verbally by their 
delegates, will each give their views res- 
pecting the query. 

19th. Called for, read and approved, 
letters of correspondence to sister Associa- 
tions, and handed them- over to the mes- 

20th. Appointed the next meeting of 
this body to be held with the Jackson 

Creek church, Richland District, eight 
miles east ofColumbia; to commence by 
divine permission on Saturday before the 
second Lord's day in October, 1S47. 

21st. Appointed brother Jonathan Mic- 
kle to write our Circular, the subject to be 
the duty of the preachers to the churches, 
and the duty of the churches to the preach- 
ers; brother Daniel VVooten his alternate. 

22nd. Appointed brother William Nel- 
son to preach the Introductory Sermon; 
brother Marshal McGravr his alternate. 

23rd. Appointed Union Meetings as 
follows: at Mount Olivet, Darlington Dis- 
trict, on Friday before the fifth Lord's day 
in November; the second Union Meeting 
to be held with Colonel's Creek church; 
the third Union Meeting with Pilgrim's 
Rest church; tire fourth Union meeting, 
with the Big Creek church. . 

24th. Agreed that our Corresponding, 
Letter to our sister Associations be insert- 
ed in our Minutes. 

25th. Agreed that in case any brother 
appointed by this Association as a messen- 
ger to a sister Association should fail to at- 
tend the meeting of such, he will be ex- 
pected at the next annual meeting of this 4 
body to state to the Association the reason 
of such failure. 

26th. Whereas, the Twenty-five Mile- 
Creek church has failed to represent her- 
self in the Association for two meetings, 
Agreed to appoint. brother John L. Simp- 
son, brother Jonathan Mickleand brother 
Daniel Woolen, to visit said church and 
learn the cause of failure, and report at our 
next Association. 

27th. We, the South Carolina Primitive 
Baptist Association, do return our sincere 
thanks to God, the BeaVer Dam church, 
and vicinity, for their kind and hospitable 
treatment during our session. We feel 
thankful to Almighty God for the unani- 
mity of spirit that has prevailed among u» 
during our meeting. 

Adjourned to the time and place above 

Prayer by brother Marshal McGraw. 
William Nelson, Clerk. 


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The South Carolina Primitive Baptist As"= 
sociation unto the churches in her con- 

Dear Brethren: Permitted by the 
tender mercy of our God, we have had the 
pleasure of meeting once more in an asso- 
ciate capacity according to appointment';' 
we have been favored with nearly a full' 
representation of the churches in our 
Union, and by this means we are made ac- 
quainted with the present standing and* 
condition of the churches, composing our 
Association at the present time. The bus- 
iness of the Association has been transact- 
ed in peace and in order: Christian fellow- 
ship seemed to pervade the Associatienv 
We thank God our heavenly Father, who 
through our Lord and Saviour Jesus'Christ 
by the office work of the Holy Spirit, the 
comforter, still continues faith upon, the 
earth, the faith once delivered to the saints; 
so there are a few walking in t^e way the 
fathers trod, and from the evidence given 
in letters addressed by the'churches to our 
Association, confirm us iri the belief that 
these are the children of the heavenly king,- 
and these alone are they who sing as they 
pass on: — ■ 

We are travelling home to God, 

In the way the fathers trod; 
I hey are happy now, and we 

Soon their happiness shall see. 
The above is the pleasant parfof the rela= 
lion that we are able to make to you. But' 
O, dear brethren and sisters', there is other 
information received by your Association 
from the churches, which must bow the 
head of every humble child of God who 
hears such sad lid ; ngs. The Zion of our' 
God mourns, a pretty general complaint in 
the churches of coldness. brethren and 
sistero, is there net a eauae? 



Dear' brethren ami sisters, one and all 'cause is removed, the eflect will cease? 
without exception, we ask you each one ; then, brelhren and sisters, by the help of 
lor your own self, see if prepared to answer our God let us make an effort to remove 
the following questions: Have I or am 1 , the cause; and once the cause is removed, 

living in the discharge of my duty as an 
humble child of God? Do I feel to have a 
conscience void of offence toward God and 
my fellow man? Am I engaged in obedi- 
ence to the command of my divine Master 
in observing aH things whatsoever he has 
commanded? Do I meet with my brethien 
and" sisters in the houseof (iod punctually at 
our regular stated meetings? Am \ enga- 
ged in the duty of cultivating peace in the 
church of Christ, with the household of 
faith and with all mankind, as far as in my 
power lies? Am I letting m}' light so shine 
in the world that others may be constrain- 
ed to glorify my Father in heaven? Do 1 

the effect will cease, and then we may lock 
for a refieshing from the presence of our 
God; We know that the creature, when 
affected 'villi a sense of the goodness- of 
God, after all that it can do is free to ac- 
knowledge itself an unprofitable servant. 

But brethren and sisters, let us not be 
weary in well doing. 
As we intended brevity, we will rrow come 
to a close by giving the apostolic exhorta- 
tion. Brethren, as faithful soldiers of the 
Lord Jesus Christ, stand to your post, quit 
yourselves like valiant soldiers. Where- 
fore, take unto you the whole armor of 
God, that you may be able to withstand i-r» 

feel to esteem my brethren and sisters, in I the evil day; and having done all, to stand. 
honor, prefering them? Ami engaged in j Stand therefore having your loins girt about 
the duty of fove in watching over ray i with truth, and having on the breastplate 
brethren and sisters, and feel that I am J of righteousness, and your feet shod with 
clear of the sin of exposing them by exhib- i the preparation of the gospel of peace, 
king their faults to others and publicly unto! And above all, taking the shield of faith, 
the world? Do I feel to prefer to suffer j wherewith ye shall be able to quench all 

for the truth sake as ii is in Jesus, with 
my brelhren and sisters and the church? 
Have 1 discharged my duty towards him 
who ministers in word and doctrine unto 
me? Have t made myself acquainted 
with his condition in life in a temporal 
point of view, and wnile he has been enga- 
ged in ministering to me in spiritual things, 
have I ministered to him in temporal 
things? Have I kept myselfclear from 
wounding his feelings, by not being absent 
at our regular church meetings? To sum 
ttpthe whole, have I been engaged in eve- 
ry good- work, for the glory of God and 
comfort of his church and people. 

Now, brefehFen and sisters, if we feel free 
to give an answer to the above questions 
in the affirmative, we feel assured, you 
have comfort notwithstanding there is a 
general coldness complained of. But if 
we have, from a sense of neglect of duly, 
to answer in the negative, then we say, 
here is the cause of coldness. Now if (he 

the fiery darts of the wicked. And take 
the helmet of salvation, and the sword of 
the Spirit, which is the word of God; 
praying always with all prater and suppli- 
cation in the spirit, watching thereunto 
with all perseverance and supplication for 
all saints. 

Mav the God of all truth and grace bless 
you all with all spiritual blessings, whilo 
advancing on your pilgrim journey to the 
heavenly Canaan. Finally, brethren and 
sisters, we bid you all farewell, haring the 
comfortable hope of meeting you all in 


William Nelson, Clerk. 


The South Carolina Primitive Baptist As- 
sociation to the Springfield, Bear Creek, 
and Lexington Primitive Baptist Asso- 
ciations, send Christian love. 

Dearly beloved brethren in the 



Lord; In these limes of divisions and con- 
tentions among (lie professed followers ol 
Jesus Christ, we hardly know how to ad- 
diess brethren, or to keep up an epistolary 
correspondence with them, without giving 
them to understand on what kind of plat- 
form we stand as a religious denomination. 
Ever since our first recollection until about 
some fourteen or fifteen years ago, we 
knew of hut one denomination of Baptists 
in this country, and that was what we now 
call the hard-shell. Whenever we saw a 
Baptist, even if he was a total stranger, we 
took it for granted that he was of the old 
I'etrobrusian or Calvinistic school. Such 
of us as were then destitute of religion, did 
not like him much the better for what we 
took it for granted were his principles. 
However, whatever he was or was not, we 
could not help it; we had to let him pass 
just as he was. He did not seem anxious 
to win our love or good opinion by a tem- 
porising course. But some fourteen or fif- 
teen years ago a number of Baptist breth- 
ren in the ministry in this country, made a 
new off-set (so to speak) in the matter of 
religion and of church affairs; they seemed 
to be bent on getting up what they called 
revivals of religion by human efforts alone, 
doctrinal foundation on which to build re- 
ligion, was considered by them as woise 
than nothing and vanity. They went alto- 
gether for raising superstructures and for 
having large churches, let the materials be 
of what sort they might; as if they did not 
know, or did not consider, that a strorg 
basis is essential to the stability of the edi- 
fice buili upon it. From their couise they 
seemed to think that laying a doctrinal 
foundation was working under ground and* 
out of sight, and to be doing nothing to any 
purpose. They were determined, if possi- 
ble, to see immediate visible effects of their 
word, and that was to see the people flock- 
ing up in troops to submit to the ordinance 
ol baptism and be united to (he church. 

And though there was a great deal more 
preaching, by the gathering together of 
preachers and the "protracting of meetings, 

and larger congregations flocked out to at- 
tend them, than we had usually seen among 
the Baptists; the visible effects did not ap- 
pear in the way that the ancient fathers and 
n. others tn Israel desired to see them. In- 
stead of our witnessing more clearness in 
religious experiences, more consistency of 
life, and more thoroughness of views; there 
was in our apprehension, an evident dimi- 
nution in all these respects. And even 
they, who for the time ought to have been 
teachers, seemed to be such, that some one 
had need to teach them which were the 
first principles of the oracles of God. 

These things we wondered at and deplo- 
red in secret, for a time we kept silence, 
hut the fire burned within us till we had to 
speak out. But no sooner did the leprosy 
{as they called it) in us break out, than 
they put some of us away out of their 
camp; others they laid under an interdict, 
and other some they merely treated with a 
cold indifference, or avoided as if we had 
had some infectious disease. But whenev- 
er we could meet with one of our own sort, 
we would interchange our views and feel- 
ings with regard to the dark dispensation 
the visible church was getting under. 

At length we had an itching to form 
ourselves into an associate capacity, that 
the world might know that there was such 
a people as we were. And this wedid, 
and have continued unto the present, 
though a feeble folk and are laboring under 
many discouragements from without. 

Now, brethren, you may guess what 
sort of people we are, and if you are of the 
same family in Christ with us, we pray 
you to come and see us. We would be 
glad to hear from you often and to see 
some messengers from your body, especi- 
ally, brethren that can preach for us when 
they come. We have appointed our be- 
loved brethren, whose names you will find 
in the foregoing Minutes, to bear this com- 
munication to you and to inform us, of your 
state; send us some written communication 
to inform us how you are getting on. But, 
above all, we would be glad to see some of 



the ministering brethren from your body 
We reckon, thai if we could, we would be 
like saint Paul, when he saw ihe brethren 
tha.t came to meet him as far as Ap.pii fo- 
rum and the three .taverns, we would 
thank ,Qod and take fresh courage. 

Together with this communication, we 
forward you our corresponding letter to 
you oflast year, so that you see .that we 
have not grown cold or indifferent toward 
our brethren of sister Associations; al 
though there has been a temporary failure 
jn the regujar correspondence. By divine 
permission, our next annual meeting will 
be held at the Jackson Creek church. 
Richland district; and begin on the Satur- 
day before the second Lord's day in Octo- 
ber. October 12th, 1846. 


William Nelson, Clerk. 

Extract from the Mijiutes of the Primi 
live Baptist Association, held with the 
Lewis Crtek church. Mi Sept. 1S46. 

Died, at his residence, in Yailobtisha 
County, Miss , on the 26th of June, 1 S 46 
JSlder Francis Baker, in the 66th year 
of his age, after a protracted illness of sev- 
en weeks. He was awakened to a sense of 
his lost stale in his 20th year — obtained a 
hope in Christ in his 27th year — was bapti- 
zed in his 29th yeir— commenced preach- 
ing in his 4 1st or 42d year ? and was or 
d,ajned the same year. 

As a man he was fir m, frank, candid and 
courteous; beloved by his friends and res- 
pected by his enemies. 

As a Christian, he was firmly establish- 
ed in the fa?) h of God's elect — believing 
that salvation isofGod, and not of man — 
by grace, and not by works— that the} 
who work not but believe on llim who 
jtistifieth the ungodly, their faith is count- 
ed for righteoiiMie-s. lie believed that 
without faith it was impossible io please 
God — that all men have, not faith — that 
true faith is the gift of God, and is given to 

predestinated to be conformed to the irrl* 
age of His Son — and that neither death, 
nor life, nor angels, nor principalities nor 
powers, northings present, nor things to 
come, nor height nor depth, nor any 
creature .vhall be able to separate the^n 
from the love of Gpd, which •'* >" 
Christ Jesus our Lord. He helie\,edjha ; t 
good works are an evidence of a gracious 
state, and are the effect of the faith of God's 
elect, and not the cause; that the elect 
were created in ( hrist Jesus ,untp good 
works, which God hath before ordainrd 
that they should walk jn them. His walk 
in life was guch as io show his faith by his 
works; betook the Scriptures for his n, '« 
of practice as well as faith, and out of 
them he recognised no ( hrjslian cjuiy. 

Asa minister of the Gpspe) \\c was so- 
ber, gtave. temperate, gound in ihe laith, 
in charity, in patience — in all things '•Mow- 
ing himgelf a. pattern of good wotks in 
doctrine showing incorruptness— endeav? 
onng to keep the spirit of unity in ih,e 
bond of peace. 

W hen the separation of the O. S. K., 
and N. S. B , took place, his patience and 
forbearance were such that he lingered b%- 
hind for two or three years, laboring and 
striving for a restoration of go«pel order. 
But when he found that all (lis effort* weie 
unavailing, and that the Ml. S. party were 
bringing in heresy like a flood, he come 
out from among them and declared an un- 
erasing warfare against alj their eriprs — ; 
for which he received a ful| .share of that 
poition of a Christian's legacy which con? 
fists, of persecution. Bm 1 1'PnP of these 
things moved him — he was prepared by 
the word of God to expect them. He sa»y 
that the N. S. party bad become unsound, 
in faith and doctrine, and that i heir works 
weieofa like character — like faith, like 
works — like always begetting its like — and 
he ceased not to warn the people against 
their unset iptural doctrine and practice. 
Phis he did from a high sense of ministerial 

those only who wgre chosen in Christ be duly, notwithstanding he' knew ihat 
fore the foundation of the world, and was who «ould not endure sound doctrine would 



be offended; nevertheless he shunned not 
<o declare the whole counsel of God — 
knowing thai it was impossible to preach 
sovereign, discriminating grace without 
giving offence. Witness the effect of Je- 
sus' remarks relative to the Widow of 
Serepta and Naaman, the Syrian. It seems 
that they heard him patiently, perhaps wil- 
ling to call his doctrine conservative, uniil 
he came out Openly and preached sover- 
eign, discriminating grace, and then the 
jre of their lather was kindled within them. 
and they were filled with wrath and sought 
to destroy him. The servant is not great- 
er -ttyanhis Master — and Brother Hiker 
knew (hat if they thus persecuted the JVias- 
ler, ihey would also persecute the servant 
— and hence, he marvelled not as if some 
■Irange thing had happened to him. 

He was elected Moderator of the Prim- 
itive Baptist Association, and served two 
sessions befoie his deaih, in which capacity 
he fully sustained the character of a peace-: 
maker among his brethren. His earnest 
exhortations to the brethren, to walk wor- 
thy of God who had called them unto His 
kingdom and glory — to dwell together jn 
Jove and unity, and not fall out by the way 
about things that do not pertain to the Gos- 
pel; together with his meek, gentle and 
courteous deportment, exercised such an 
influence over them, that they seemed to 
appreciate their calling, and in some high 
degree to realize what it is to sit together 
jn heavenly places in Christ Jesus. 

He has now departed and was permitted 
to depart in peace. During his illness he 
reviewed his ministerial life, and stated 
that the result was — '"that il the Bible was 
God's revealed will, he had stood up for 
God.— and I*' 1 thankful that he had the 
privilege of dying in the faith of God's 
gleet — yes, thq faith of God's elect.^' 

He has fallen asleep, and we are left to 
mourn the loss of a father in Israel, but not 
as those who have no hope — we expect to 
see him again with our Redeemer, standing 
upon the earth in the latter day ; and though 
worms destroy these bodies, yet in our 

flesh shall we see God, with all the holy 
nation of Jews (he is not a Jew that is one 
.outwardly)— whom we shall see for our- 
selves and not another; and the earth shall 
be puiified with fire, and made anew, and 
a nation born at once shall come with ever- 
lasting jo\s upon their heads — and shall 
obtain joy and gladness; and sorrow and 
sighing shall flee away. 

Jasper ■, Marion county. Ten.} 
November S2d, m6. ) 

Dear Brethren: The time is fully 
come that I should send on my mite to the 
aid of the Publisher of our valuable paper 
the Primitive. I thought that it might 
not be amis* to send a few lines for its col- 
umns, and wishing to do untoall men as I 
would they should do unto me, therefore I 
feel disposed to give you a sketch of the 
times among us as Baptists. 

The Sequatchee Valfey Association. I 
believe f may say, is of one mind and of 
one soul as respects doctrine and practice. 
At her last session, there was but a small 
addition by expeiience and baptism; yet 
we hope tli3 time will shortly come to f»- 
vor Zion. In order that you may know 
who we are, I will g've you some of the 
leading tenets of our faith. We believe in 
one God, the Father, Son and Holy Ghost; 
and that these three are one. We believe 
in election, according to the purpose and 
foreknowledge of God, and with the pur- 
pose of God are connected the means to 
effect the end. So that the salvation of 
the church is certain to be accomplished in 
God's own; for it is the work of God, 
Though il be done by men as instruments 
in his hands; so that all that is done in 
time that is truly the work of God, (in the 
effecting the salvation of the church,) is but 
the effect of a previous design of God in 
eternity before time. 

We also believe in a call to the work of 
the ministry, and that God is able and 
does qualify all of his servants for the work 
he intends them to do. We think the 
polish of a theological school unnecessary. 



Churches ought to be careful to set each 
gift in its proper place, then the body (the 
church) will be edified and the cause of 
God advanced. 

We have no fellowship with the notions 
of Daniel Parker. The eternality of the 
devil is a docirine that we think to be un- 
scriptural, and that be has a prop igated or 
infused spiritual seed distinct and separate 
from the seed of Adam or Chiist, so as to 
place one seed under the law of God and 
the other not, we also think to be unscrip- 
tural; but that Christ has a seed that shall 
serve him, and that seed was chosen ol 
God in Christ, (out of the world) before 
the world was, we believe according to the 
foreknowledge of God. But as Adam; 
while all of his posterity was in him, re- 
ceived the law and transgressed it, there- 
fore they with him are considered sinners; 
and that out of the mass of sinners God 
chose his people in Christ Jesus before the 
world was. And that there is no differ 
enceexisting among this mass of sinners, 
till grace makt's the difference. The gos- 
pel is to be preached to all, by men called 
to that work; but that God by his spirit 
makes the application of his grace to the 
heirs of salvation, and thus the gospel be- 
comes the po.ver of GoJ to every one that 

1 have sat these things forth as the faith 
of the Seqoatchee Valley Association, and 
if there be any one that would not acknowl- 
edge them to be their faith, I know ii not; 
at least, I am willing to say that the above 
is my faith. 

As it respects the times among us, union 
and fellowship prevails in all the churches 
as far as I know, with some additions to 
the churches; but we have had a vet v se- 
rious difficulty with thfCmey Fork As*U 
ciation, that we were in correspondence 
with. But we settled it by dropping cor 
respondence with them, for holding the 
doctrine that we call Parkerism, or the 
two seed doclnne, as held by Daniel Par 

Qur next Association is to be held with 

•he church at Swift Shoal, where m^ - mem- 
bership is, about five miles above Jasper, 
in Marion county, on Friday before the 
second Saturday in August next; to which 
place I cordially invite all old Baptist 
preachers without exception. 

I will take this opportunity to invite 
brother James Osbourn, as we bear of his 
travelling through the Stales, to visit us, if 
in his power, at the above Association; for 
there are many that would be glad to see 
his face and hear his speech in the pulpit. 

I will now give for those of my acquaint- 
ance sake, a short account of myself and 
family. We have had a serious spell of 
;iffi ction, my wife was taken sick about the 
middle of August and has but recently got 
about; since thai time six of my children 
have ha 1 the remittent fever. I also was 
taken at the '"aney Fork Association with 
the same fjv r. an I am s-till unable to d j 
any labor. Yesterday i had a very hard 
fever, to day I am dear of fever and am 
able to sit by the fire and wiite. So I 
must conclude by subscribing myself the 
friend to all the lover* of truth. Farewell. 
MIC Hd EL B URKtlJi L TE ft. 



This number begins the subscription 
year of the Primitive Baptist. The pa- 
pers of those who have directed them to 
be discontinued, will be stopped unless 
their subscription is renewed — where w© 
have not been thus notified, the papers 
wHI he continued as heretofore. Should 
this number be sent to any who do not in- 
tend to take the paper any longer, they 
will please hand ii back to their Postmas- 
ter to be sent to us again. 

In consequence of having the Minutes 
of several Associations to print, this num- 
ber of the Primitive has been somewhat 
delayed, but we will soon make up the time. 

Those friendly to the continuance of the 
Primitive Baptist paper are informed, that 
it is in contemplation to issije it at the 



close of the ensuing year from perhaps a 
more favorable location in this State, un- 
der a competent Editor, and semi-monthly 
as heretofore. 

GEO. HOWARD, Publisher. 

We received a few days since, a letter 
post-marked "Mobile, Ala. Jan. 10." in 
which was enclosed a $10 bill, accompan- 
ied with the following remarks: 

"To the Editors of the Primitive Bap- 
tist. Dear Sirs, inclosed you will find ten 
Dollars, considered due you by 


Our subscribers at Mobile, have ahvays 
been punctual in their remittances, and 
consequently we are at a loss to conjec- 
ture the location of "Justice." We have 
credited his contribution in our receipts, 
and hereby tender to him our acknowl- 
edgements for the same. This is another 
among the numerous testimonials we have 
constantly received, for eleven years from 
our readers, that our efforts in their behalf 
are properly appreciated. And we assure 
them, that it is with unfeigned regret we 
view the time approaching, when we shall 
b« unable to afford them an opportunity 
to express their views on "men and 
things," in religious matters, in their own 
way and in their own language. 

GEO. HO IVJiRD, Publisher. 


Pit Isijlvunia cnuiity. Va , > 
December L7/A, 1846. \ 
Dkar Brethren: The year has again 
rolled on near the end, which makes it my 
duty to let you hear from me. as agent for 
the Primitive Baptist; and 1 must say to 
you, I have been so much engaged about 
temporal cencerns, that 1 have neglected 
to let you hear from me for some time 
which you know; but I hope 1 am in time 
with my subscription, as I wish our paper 
to continue. And I wish the brethren to 
do better for it than 1 have done, and not 
neglect their duty in writing; but to be 
diligent in every good work and word: 

and may the Lord give us a desire to speak 
often one to another, and to hear from each 
other; and fill us with brotherly love for 
each other; and give us the spirit of pray- 
er, that we may pray for one another, that 
brotherly love may abound from breast to 
breast; that we may be enabled to keep the 
unity of the spirit in the bonds of peace, 
and contend for the doctrine of the gospel 
in a right and becoming manner, seeing 
eye to eye, and speaking the same thing 
in Christ Jesus, for the salvation of the 
soul. For you know, brethren, theie is 
one Lor), one faith, one baptism, for the 
church of Christ, and only one. But, for 
the world and carnal professors, there are 
lords many; and as many faiths and bap- 
tisms as there are lords. 

Hence, we hear some carnal professors 
contending for sprinkling, pouring, or im- 
mersion, or none, just as the candidate 
phases. But this is contrary to the doc- 
trine of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son 
of God. And 1 had rather have no bap- 
tism, ihan ei her of their baptisms, when 
administered by one of those any way fel- 
lows; for the church has only one Lord, 
one faith, and one baptism. Then, you 
see, they that believe in any way are not 
of the church, for this faith here spoken of 
is the baptism of the Holy Spirit, by which 
faith is given; and this Spirit only gives 
one faith, and after this faith then comes 
one baptism, which is water baptism. 
Then those three way fellows, or any way 

I folks, are wiong and do not belong to the 

' church of t hrist, for his church has but 
one Lord, one faith, one baptism. 

Then, brethren, let us contend for the 
ordinances of the church, or house of God: 
and we should not receive any members 

! into our church on the baptism or with the 
baptism that those any way folks can ad- 
minister. Hence 1 think we must require 
of them to come to our church and to be 
baptised for the answer of a good con- 
science towards God, by a gospel adminis- 
trator, just as we would one out of the 
world. Then, brethren, they must bring 



to the church fruits meet for repentance, 
arid then be baptised for the answer of a 
good conscience towards God. Then we 
are all of the same stripe, and will love 
each other if a)I are qf the sime Mood and 
birth; or, if all are regenerated and born of 
the Spirit. Then we will agree in doc- 
trine and ordinance, hence we can see eye 
to eye and speak the same thing for the 
salvation of souls; and that thing is, by 
grace you are saved through f;iith, and that 
|iot of yourselves, it is the gift olGod. 
Ephesians, 2 ch 8 verse. 

Now let us notice the words of Paul, in 
thpSth verse. Hesay«, by grace you are 
saved; then n0 > by works, as some vainly 
a»y. No but through faith is the way. 
yea, »ay some religionists, hut this faith is 
the act of the creature; and it he does not 
floor act Lis part, he will be lost. But 
this acting faith is false, and does dishonor 
God and honor the devil. For P.iul says, 
thjs faith is not of yourselves, it is the gilt 
of God Here you, my readers, can see 
|hat faith is the gift of God. Hence those 
faith actors do dishonor God and honor 
themselves, by doing God's works. 

Notice the 9th verse. Here Paul says, 
pot of works (why?) least any man should 
boast. Here we see faith is not of works, 
for if jt was, there might be boasting in 'he 
church of Christ, or members of ihiist. 
JJu,t not so with the members of ( h/ist, but 
those religious inf(dels can boast of anting 
faith, and of doing many wonderful works. 

Again, we will notice the l Oth verse, ch. For we, the apostle says mean- 
ing the church of Christ, or children of 
God, or saints of the most high, are his, or 
God's workmanship, created in Christ Je 
sus unto good works; which God halh be- 
fore ordained that we, the children of God, 
should walk in them, or good works. 
Paul says, the sjaint or Christian is God's 
workmanship, a,nd says, they are created 
in Christ Jesus, not by good works. No, 
but unto good works. Now the reason 
why God created »s, or the church, in 
Christ unto good works, is because God 

had before ordained that we, Christian*, 
should (not might) walk in them; but 
should walk in them, or in good works. 

Now, brethren, if we are created in, 
Christ unto good works, then God hath 
before ordained that vye should walk in 
good works; then let us try to do all the 
good we can, and as little harm as we can 
to our fellow creatures; and pray God to 
create them in ( hrist Jpsi)s unto good 
works, if it is his will; and then thank God 
for what he has done for us in ordaining 
us to walk in good works. For salvation 
js all of the Lord, and every good and 
perfect gift is of the Lord; hence if we do 
any gQod, let us thank the Lord for it. For 
it is written, let hira that glqpcth, gl°ry in 
the Lord So. brethren, farewell, May 
the spirit of all grace be with you all. 



Di/vis's. Crede, Kanaivha eovnfy, Va. > 
SeptW, 1 84 6. \ 
Deak bkkthren Editors: I design 
sending you a Minute of the Pocotalico 
Association for publication, if you think it 
worthy. Brethren, I am well pleased 
with your valuable paper, and often my 
bosom is made to swell with joy while 
reading over its faithful pagfs. Now in 
conclusion, may the great head of the 
church enable \ ou to carry on a good work, 
and I earnestly hope much good may be 
done bv the publication of religious peri- 
odicals such as the Primitive Baptist. May 
th'" Lord bless you with all things necessa- 
ry for lileand godliness, and nothing over- 
rated. So I must hid you farewell for the 
present EZEKIEL W. MJiYS. 


The Pocatalico Association to the several 
Churches composing her body, sendelh 
Christian Salutation: 

Dear Brethren: A oustom ol long 
standing, authorizes you to look for a Cir- 
cular, and as it is common in writing Cir- 
culars to take some portion of the WortJ pf 



Pod as a foundation or touchstone, we will 
ask your attention to Col. 3d ch. and 1 1 
yerse, ''Christ is all." The necessity of 
paving some religion, is generally admit- 
ted even by the most ignorant and profane; 
all agree (thai we ought to be religious; 
|?gt what true religion consists in is very 
much disputed, every man forms a system 
for himself and then flatters himself it must 
be right; bgt as there are various schemes 
contradicting each other, all cannot be 
fight. The unerring Word of God is the 
pnly rule by which we can, determine 
v\hjch i» r'ghl. Bring every thing called 
reljgjon tq i|)is touchstone, bring it to this 
tejt, ?'Chri$t js all." He is the sum and 
sgbstanpe qf irqe religion, the beginning 
and the end of it. Paul is here speaking 
of a eondgetagreeable to the Christian pro 
fessioq, he is recommending to the Cellos 
sians the mqrtifieaiipn of all corrupt affec 
tion$, to put off the Old Man of sin and put 
on the New Man even Je^gs Christ, for a 
true Christian js.a new creatgre, and iq this 
state of renovation there is neither Greek 
nor Jew, circumcision nor uncireumcision, 
bond nor free; but "Christ is all, and in 
all," that is, gnder the Gospel. 

God has no partial respect of persons on 
account qI country, customs or situations 
in life. Chijst has taken down the wall of 
partition and Jew and Gentile stand on a 
level hefoie God as to dgty and privilege; 
and for this reason » hrist is the all of the 
Christian, let him be who he may, Jew or 
Gentile rich or poor, master or servant. 
Christ is the Christian's vvhole sajvatjon, 
hope «joil happiness from first to last. We 
are taught the grand truth that "Christ is 
all," iq the religion of the Gospel. This 
is the general Jaqguage of the >ci iptures. 
Whatever we want in religion we must 
have from Jesus, so Paul spoke I Cpr. 1. 
3, "Christ is made untq us wisdom, right- 
eousness, sanctification and redemption.'' 
We are ignorant and foolish in the things 
of God, Christ is by his spirit made wis- 
dom to us; we are guilty sinners liable to 
God's wrath, he is made righteousness to 

u«; he is our groat atqnemenl and sacrifice; 
we are all depraved and corrupt, he is 
made sanctification to us, he is the source 
of ^ II grace, aqd out of his fulness we re- 
ceive grace for grace; we must die and 
see corruption, but he wjll raise in up a- 
gain and deliver us from the power of the 
grave, and so be made redemption to m», 
thus he is our all, that nq flesh should glo- 
ry jn hi« presence; but that as Christ is all, 
ht may have all the glory. 

V\ hatever we want in religion, we have 
in Christ. To be accepted of God, to be 
sanctified in the heart, and Iq be made 
happy here and hereafter, are the great 
things we seek in religiqn, in Jesus we 
have them all. Now when God sees fit to 
extend mercy to a sinner, he opens his 
eyes to behold his true condition, he per- 
reh es that he has to do with a l}o|y God 
who hales sin. and will surely nqnjsh it. 
He sees plainly that he is a sinner, a rebel 
against God, he is alarmed and justly tpo, 
his fears are well grounded, aqd in tho 
manner of persons terrified at the approach 
of danger, cries out, What shall I do to b§ 
laved? Is salvation possible? How can \ 
obtain it? I would fly from the wrath to 
come, but whither must I fly? To a soul 
in this state, the Gospel is welcome, in? 
deed, it affords tiding"* of great joy; it sets 
belore the trembling sinner, just what he 
wants, a Saviour mighty to save all who 
come, unto God hy him. He no longer 
wants shelter in the world's hiding place, 
viz: (I willamen«l my life and ill do my 
best it will suffice.) no he sees that this is 
not making Christ all, but is making hirn 
nothing at all, for he is our all or he is noth- 
ing; see what the Scriptures say on this 

Is the wrath of God due to sin, Christ 
has delivered us from the wrath tq come, 
I I'hes. 1 ch, IQ v. Does the holy law 
denounce a curse against every transgres- 
sor, "Christ has redeemed us from the 
curse of Ihe law, being made a curse for 
us." Gal. 3. 13. Can there be no remis- 
sion of sin wilheut the shedding of ble©d } 



"Christ has shed his blood for the remission 
of sin," M d. 20 and 28. Does the law 
requite of us a perfect righteousness, 
"Christ was made sin for us that we might 
be made the righteousness of God in him," 
2 Cor 5 and 21. Are we far from God, 
"He died to bring us unto God," 1 Pet. 3 
and 18. Are we justly rejected, "we are 
accepted in the beloved," Eph. 1 and 6. 
Are we every way imperfect in ourselves, 
"we are complete in him." Col 2 and 
10. Are we pursued by the law, '• we have 
fled for refuge to lay hold on Christ, Heb. 
6 and 16. Are we filthy by reason of sin, 
"the blood of Christ cleanseth us from all 
sin," 1 John 1 and 7. 

the young men rejoiced, and the old wept. 
I think true religion is at that ebb now. 
Brethren, there is something wrong among 
the few Old Baptists. We, the church, 
have muzzled the old faithful ox that trend- 
eth out the grain. I at this moment weep 
to see the little flock scattered all over the 
mountains, like sheep without a shepherd. 
My brethren, Israel of old was punished for 
their disobedience, and so it is now. I 
think the little flock must all be brought 
down lo the water's edge and lap as dogs; 
we must become as mean as clogs in the 
view of the religionists of the day. 

But Christ our righteousnes s has said, 
fear not, little flock, &c. O the consola- 

Dear Brethren, we must close our re- <i°n to the living, to be poin ed lo such a 
marks at present as our limits will not ad- i Redeemer and surety. Brethren, I will 

mit of our pursuing the subject, but we say to you I am one of the weakest among 

hope brethren you will give them a care- 'he weak; I crave and entreat the prayers 

ful examination and practice what they °«" all God's elect, for their prayers are 

teach, and may God grant you the in flu- heard day and night. And may the Lord 

ence of his Spirit to conduct you safe sustain and give you grace to be humble, 

through this wilderness and land us all in and all his dear children the world over, is 

thereat provided for God's people, is our 'he prayer of your unworthy brother in tri- 

feeble yet we trust sincere prayer for bulation. JJiMES PERKINS. 

Christ's sake, farewell. 



'■Big Woods, Louisiana, 

December 24t/i, 1646 

Pittsylvania county, Va 
October 2nd, 1816. 
Brethrfn Editors: I herewith send 

Dear brethren Editors: It his been you for publication a letter, as you will 
sometime since 1 have dropped you a few see, which was written by a sister, a young 
lines. 1 will say to you, btethren, that professer, to a sister of riper religious ex- 
experimental religion appears to be low in perience. It seems to be your wish, as 
these parts; we seldom hear Christ prea- well as it is the wish of all the d fferent 
ched as the true gospel, but we hear wno- , Editors of your most excellent paper, to 

ther gospel to the mountain that burns, di- 
rected there for life and the god free will. 
But it is strange, brethren, to hear men 
and women say, they can turn at any time 
and get religion of the blessed Redeemer, 
and live forever; when we see them let 
their best friends and relatives die, and 
them in possession ol every means to the 
eye and ear of the natural man, a mighty 
day of religion. 

Brethren, it seems now as in the days of 

set forth divine truth in its oriental beauty, 
and native simplicity; which is a dress 
contradistinctive to all nominal religionists, 
and the dresses wrought by the most learn- 
ed and ingenious amongst them; which also 
contains a solid nutriment, that has a natu- 
ral tendency to build up truth, and make 
clear discriminations between lovers of 
gospel Zion, and lovers of human tradi- 

Experimental matter, wroughtby divine 

old, in the building of the second temple; teaching, such as the following letter con- 



tains still evidences that Israel's God has 
not left Zion's prosperity, (as thousands say 
in amount,) to depend on chance* contin- 
gency, human learning, seminai'y advance- 
ments, human efforts, free will, and dead 
works; but evinces divine teaching, gra- 
cious dealings, and a holy union with him- 
self, through our Lord Jesus Christ. 
And thai gospel Zion is a spiritual bride, all 
glorious Within, and her clothing is of 
wrought gold and that she worships God 
in the spirit, and rejoices in Christ Jesus, 
and has no confidence in the flesh, nor the 
works of the flesh. And as Christ is her 
wisdom, she can, and does, clearly see 
through the gieat religious nominal cheat, 
that is now spreading itself over the reli- 
gious world, like a green bay tree, and du- 
ping thousands, in its prolific bran- 

The apostles spake the wisdom of God 
in a mystery, even the hidden mystery, 
which the Lord ordained for the glory of 
the church, which is too mysterious for 
nominal religionists to understand; like- 
wise possessing an aliment that their 
squeamish stomachs cannot digest, as they 
have but a natural temperament Neither 
can they inhale gospel water of a pure 
fountain, nor can they eat the flesh of the 
Son of man as they hare no life in them; 
but their glory is in bodily exercise, pro- 
tracted meetings, spurious doctrines, 
worldly applause, and an abundance of 
eating, luxuriously feeding the flesh, and 
collecting money. And, dear sir, as I con- 
ceive that the following letter, though 
written as a private letter (or a family and 
relative correspondence, contains nutri- 
ment calculated to fill the children of God . 
It is hereby recommended to have a place 
in your excellent paper. 



My dear Cousin: It is with great plea- 
sure that I take this opportunity of wrfiing 
to you, and I flatter myself it will be a 
pleasure to you to read this my feeble let- 

ter; and feeble as it may be, I hope you 
will unite vvith me, to praise the Lord, 
when I tell you what great things I hope 
he has clone for my poor soul. Yes, my 
dear cousin, I hope he has done great 
things for me whereof 1 am glad. Surely 
if any one on earth has cause to bless and 
adore a dear Redeemer, 1 have. If ever 
the Lord did awaken me to view my lost 
and ruined condition, it was about nine 
years ago, at preaching at Leatherwood 
m. h. when Mi\ Eanesand Mr. McNealy 
preached theie that I viewed myself a vile 
and helpless sinner, and oh! how misera- 
ble, sinful, and guilty I felt. 

[ never can describe my feelings; those 
that have felt the same, can understand 
something about it. I tried to pray, but 
my prayers seemed like nothing. 1 felt 
like that I bad sinned so much against a 
good and merciful God, that it was sinful 
forme to brg his mercy; but still 1 would 
beg, and beseech the Lord to have mercy 
upon me. In this way 1 went on, though 
at times not as much distressed about my 
condition, 'until the 14th day of JVlay, when 
I hope it pleased the Lord to manifest un- 
to me the forgiveness of my sins. I felt 
more concerned than usual that morning 
and 1 went alone by myself to bemoan my 
lost and ruined condition; and 1 begged the 
Lord to allow me to call upon his name 
while I lived, for 1 felt that after death I 
should be banished from him for ever. I 
was not willing to be lost and oh! how 1 
did beg for mercy. 

The punishment of hell I never dreaded, 
but it was the thought of being banished 
from my God that so much wounded n-,y 
feelings; and while \ was mourning over 
my sad condition, for indeed it was sad, it 
was the most awful time 1 ever experienc- 
ed. I was sitting, not knowing what to 
do, nor what to say; but still begging for 
mercy ; using every argument I could; but 
it was nothing at best, for I plainly saw 
that it was nothing that I could do that 
would induce the Saviour to pity me. 
And 1 hope it did please the Lord to do 



thtt for me, that which I plainly saw, 1 
coiild riot do for myself. 

Whilst in this deplorable condition, I 
earinot tell how; bat nly burden. lh;it heavy 
bilrderi that had been sUch' a weight to me 
80 Idng, left rrie, a* rid these words with great 
force came to me, "because I live, you 
sharl live ' als'o;" 2nd that lime I was filled 
with praises to' my God, and oh? how I did 
pratise, rejoice, and thank my Lord for hi* 
great mercy to rrie. Nol only that he had 
kept rrie from hell, hut thai he had also 
givert me faith to believe he Was' my Sa- 
viour; arid that because he lived I slfou'ld 
live also. What more could I want, than 
to live with and by Christ? Why noth- 
ing, for i was as happy a"s ftesW could be 
for s"ome (i rite. Butitw<s ncri very fong 
before 1 1 began to doubt, thinking p rad- 
venture that 1 had taken hold o'n soirie- 
thing that did not belong to me; for 1 
thought r half sinned' loo much, to receive 
such sigrral mercy really. Brit t ha-i U the 
Lord, my blessed master, that 1 am n >t 
altogether given to doubting; for* I pome 
times (as it were) view my life hid with 
Christ in God, and then I have sweet com- 
munion with the Father. And it is my 
great desire to live near to my Saviour and 
to walk in the light of his countenance; 
but there is so much sin dwelling in me. 
that at times I fear that I am riot one of 
the Lord's cho«en ones, and if not, after all 
1 must hear the awful sound, depart. But 
1 hope I atn tfne, that he loved before the 
foundation of the world; and if I am, noth- 
ing-can separate me from my God 

My dear cousin, when 1 consider th>- 
merciful dealings of the Lord to me, 1 can 
but he' astonished! to think that he should 
remember and take care of me, when I did 
net take care for myself. Oh! thecompas 
•ion of Israel's God. 

Why was I made to hear bis voice, 
And enter while there's room; 

While thousands make a wretched choice, 
And rather starve than come. 

ft was th*; love of my blessed Jesus, 
That sweetly forced me in; 

Else I had still refused (.o t'astfe 
And perished in my sin. 

God's love, is an everlasting love; and* 
it is with loving kindness' that he dVaWS 
his children to him; and oh, that l' c'oul,* 
always feel that I wa's drawn by the Sweet 
cords of his love, then I could* Say fhat 
Christ was mine and I was his. But my 
nature is so sinful/ and f artf so apt to' do' 
that, which is sinful, that I am o'fteri made 
to cry out and say, can ever God' dwell' 
here. Bui although' I aW beset with so* 
much sin here, yet when f look forward to' 
a coming day, when Christ wrfl gaiher to- 
gether all his jewels'; and I shall tehoid' 
m\ Lord, and see him face tq face; arid 1 
when I shall be like Ivirri, f am filled with 1 
a' blessed, and joyful' anticipation, what 
more could I want than' to' be like h'im? 
ft will be enough, my soul will rejoice to 
see thai happy day. Amd U fs' my soul's 
sincere prayer arid desire to be kept from 
sin. and the power of sat an until thai day. 
I want to be humble and near* my Saviour 
and oh. that it may be his' good pleasure to 
k -ep me irory devoted"to my Lord. Never 
let me be tempted above what I may bte 
enabled to bear, arid his.great and almighty 
name shall have all the praise 

1 subscribe myself your sincere arid af- 
fectionate cousin. 


To Frances Griggs. 


JBowers's, Virginia. ? 
December 28lh, 1846. > 
Dear Editors: It has pleased the Lord 
to take from me my bosom companion, 
and as she highly esteemed brother Par- 
ham Pucket and brother Lewis Pucket as 
Christians and ministers of the gospel', if 
you know where youcan write to them, I 
wish you to let either of them know, arid' 
if I cannot get them, brother D. JVIott, 
whenever they make a visit to old South 
Quay, in Virginia, that they would set apart 
one day to come to my house to preach 
her funeral; and by so doinj you will 





touch oblige your strange but sincere spare one dollar and continue to like the 

Primitive Baptist as well as I have hereto- 
fore, I for one wish to be your readers; 
though there a great many in this coilntry 
< - : ii i that cannot bear to read it, they say that 

there are too many hard sayings in it for 
Monticello, Alabama, 7 them. 

December 30th, 1846. 5 j have concluded to send yoU the above 

Dear Brethren, of the Primitive you can dispose of it as yOU think best, 
order: I send on again for your valuable ISAAC A100R& 

paper. I have done every thing I could 
for the spead of it, and am well pleased 
\vith it myself, especially when I get pie- 
ces from brethren James Osbourn, N. S. 
McDowell, and Perry and others that write 
from South Carolina. 

Brethren, 1 really feel right smartly 
bUtlt up, when I read their pieces, for they 
suit my feelings, whether I am right or 
not. And, brethren, if I am not right, I 
want to be right: We have some just 
such preachers here as I hear you talk 
about, and some that call themselves 
Baptists toO; but brethren I do believe 
that God's people" are all taught of the 
same spirit, and they do understand one 
another when they talk about the grace 
and mercy of God towards them. 

Dear brethren, I do desire your prayers 
for myself and family, for the prayers of 
the righteous avail much. Nothing more, 
but I wish to remain your brother and 
friend Until death. 



Georgia, Washington county, \ 
November 18. 1846: J 
Dear' Brethren: Religion is at a low- 
er ebb in thiscounty at this time, than I 
ever knew it before since I can recollect. 
It seems the Prirrritive is the best messen- 
ger we ha'Ve in this section of country. I 
remain yours- with respect. 



Lauderdale county, Ten. 
Sept. 15 1846. 
Beloved Editors: So iong as I can 


Death and Judgment. C. M: 
It is appointed once to die, 

And then to judgment go; 
And then Our spirits they must fly$ 

And leave this world below. 

So as we die we then must rise 1 , 

And in our Order come; 
To meet the Saviour in the skies* 

And hear and know our doom.- 

The righteous then, a royal band,- 
Will there be dresl in white; 

And meet their Lord at his commandy 
A shining army bright. 

The wicked then they wont be so,- 

They'll in their order rise; 
And down to hell they all must goy 

With wonder and surprise. 

Great God! we feel for sinners lost,- 
To see them dead and blind; 

To think they will not count thelosty 
But to their idols joined. 

The work we own, is theirs alone, 

Great God! we truly see; 
A Paul could sow, while here below,- 

But had to look to thee. 


Macon, Ga. May 6, 184$. 

Such is the condition of life, that sortfe- 
thing is always wanted to happiness-. In 
youth, we have warm hopes, which are 
soon blasted by rashness and negligence; 
and great desires, which are defeated by 
experience. In age, we have knowledge 
and prudence, without spirit to exert or 
motives to prompt them. 





Ncrth Carolina. C.B.Hasself, Williamston 
R. M.G. Moore, German/on. W. w.Mizelt,P/y- 
movtk, Benji' By rrcrm, Nahtinta Depot, H.\ve- 
ra,Averasboro\ Burwell Temple, Raleigh. Thos. 
Bagley, Smith field. James H. Sasser, Waynes- 
boro 1 . L. B. Bennett, Heathville. Cor's Oana- 
day t Cravensvillc William Welch, Mboffs 
CreeUti A, Br Bains, Jr. Stanhope. C. T. Saw- 
yer, Powell's P&inf. H. Wilkerson, West Point. J. 
Miller, Milton Park. Isaac Meekins and Samnel 
Rogers, Columbia, Wm. M. Rushing, White's 
Store. James H» Smith, Wilmington. Jacob Her- 
ring, Qoldsboro*, Si Tatum. Elizabeth City, Ad- 
am' Hooker, Salem Church, Abner Lamb, Cam- 
den C. Ht 

8Mam Ca*os.k*a. Wm* S. Shaw, Hock Mills 
W. B. Villard, Sr, Aiken. M.McGraw, Brown's. 
J. Li Simpson, Winnsboro'. Ji Gi Bowers, Whip- 
py Swamp, Wmi Nelson, Camden, G. Mat 
thews, Germanville. 3. C_ Lucas, Lexington C, ft. 
Amos Hill, Pleasant View. 

Georgia. John McKenney, Forsyth. Thomas 
Amis, Lexington. John M. Ffelo\ Macon. John 
W. Turner, Pleasant Hill. Wlliam Trice and 
WnTram D.Taylor, Thomaston. Ezra McCrary, 
Warrenton. Prior Lewis, Thomasville. L Las- 
selter, Vernon. Abner Durham, Greenville, Geo. 
L#eve9,Milledgevilte. W.J. Packer, Chetniba. J,P. 
Bills, Pinevitte. T. Haggr»ra\-?fois. A. M .Thomp- 
son, Fort Valley, Daniel O' Nee\,OliveGrove. John 
Wayne, Cain's, R. S. Hamrick, Carroll/on. D. 
Sm\th r Cwl Spring Mose3 H. Denmar*, Marietta 
JethroOates, Mulberry Grove, Fsham Edwards, 
Marion. Joseph Danrel, Fish's. R. L. Hayne, 
Lebanon. T. w. Dearing, Cotton River. E. Davis,; 
Gretn ffilh I 

Alabama. A. Keaton, Belmont. H. Dance and | 
W. Bizzell, Eutaw. E.BelT, Liberty Hill, Li 
G.Walker, Milton. H. Williams, Haiana, J. 
Daniel, Ctaiborne,. K.Daniel, Church Hill, I. 
Carpenrer,S'r. CTinton, J. McQueen, Lowndesboro'. 
W m.TaUey, Mount Moriah, B Upchnrch, Bene- 
vola. S. Hamrick, Plantersville. James- S, Mor- 
gan, Dayton. Rufus Daniel, Jameston, Joel H. 
Ch*mMess, Loweville. F. Pickett, China Grove, 
John w. Pellum, Franklin, John Rarrell, Mis, 
souri. Wm. Thomas, Gainer's Store. E. M.A- 
mos, Midway Allen Moore, Intercourse, John 
Bryan, Sr. Fullersville, Benj. Lloyd, Wetumpka. 
N. N.Barmore, Mill Pert, A. Hatley, Pin/la/a. 
Vincent Williams, Mobile. Young Smith, Eufau- 
la. 'V. J. Foster, Bell's Landing. Henry Cason, 
Monticello, Henry Peity, PtckemviWe. D. R. 
P 1 . Ring, PainesviUe, John whitehead, Jr. Plea- 
sant A\ains. M. W. Helms, Bridgeville. Elly 
Bi Turner, Abbevilee, Thomas Townsend, Fork- 
laud. Robert Grady, Bluff Port. R. R.Thomp- 
sou, Crntreville, James F. Watson, Geneva. 

TewNxssaic Michael Burkhalter, Jasper, Wm. 
Croom, Jachson. Solomon Ruth, Wesley. Ira E. 
Dwithit, Lynchburg, Geo. Turner, Woxerly, 
Henry Randolph, Snodysville, Pleasant A.Witt, 
Musselville, William McBee, Old Town Creek, 
A. Burroughs, Moore's >i Roods. James Shelton, 
Portersville. Shadrach Mustain, Lewisburg, Na- 
than S. McDowell, Tazewell, Henry Turner, Fay- 
e/tevllle. Isaac Moore, Ripley, James Sailing, 
Bull Run. 

Mississippi.- William Huddleston and E<T» 
munr) Beeman, Thomaston. Simpson Parks and 
Samuel Oanterberry, Lexington. John S. Daniel, 
Cotton Gin Port. Mark Prewett, Aberdeen. 
Wm, Davis, Houslou. C. Nichols, Stump Bridge. 
Wooten Hill, Cooksrille> John Davidson. r 'ar 
rolltun. Thomas Mathews, Black Hawk. 
Lee, Beafie's Bluff. James T. S. Coek<?rham, 
Grub Springs, James Crawley, Minghoma. Jos. 

j Edwards, Neif Albany. Thomas C Hunt, Mc- 
Leod's. John Halbert, Nashville. Wilson Hutit, 
Stewart's, John Seallnrn. Pleasant Mount. John 
Kinnard, Daley's X. Roads. K, B. Stallings, De- 

I kalb. 

Louisiana. Thos. Pa^tton, Greensboro'. Jas. 
Peikins and Needham Coward, Big woods. L. 
G. MeGaiio-hey, Ballieu's Ferry. Benjamin Gar- 
lingtoti, Nf greet. 

Florida. Hartwejl Watkins, Monticello, Lew- 
is Tucker, Campbellton. 

Arkansas. John Hart, Saline. George w. 
Rocrpxs,. ftrkadelphia, C, B. Landers, Union O.H 
J". M. C. Robertson, Foster's, John Honea, Ozark, 
Missouri. John P. McDowell, New Market, 
Illinois. John Alsbury, Lick Creek. 
Indiana, wibon Connar. Columbia, 
Ohio. John B. Moses, Germanton* 
Kentucky. Washnwton Watts, Co'-nelius- 
ville. Levi Lancaster. Canton. Skelton Renfro„ 
Cumberland Ford. Tandy James, Somerset, Isaac- 
Horn, Rome. 
ViRoraiA. RudolphRorer^ero-erViSVore. Wmi 
w. West, Wheatley. William Burns, Davis' 
Mills, Jesse Lankford. Bowers's, A. Rorer. Edge- 
kill Thomas Flippen- Laurel Grove. Thomas 
w Walton, Pleasant Gap. Levi Bishop, Sinclair T & 

Pennsylvania. Joseph Hughes, Gum Tree, 
NewYork. Gilhert Beebe, "New Vernon. 



Wm. Nelson, 
James Shaw, 
Moses Pipkin, 5 

John F. Lovett, 5 
James Daniel, 5< 

K. Tarver, 2 

Young Smith, ? 
J. R. Bays, S 
Hartwell Watkins, 2 
John II. Daniel, 1 
John Hart, 3 

Justice, $10 

D. S. Reasons, 4 
John McKenney, 4 
B. Upchnrch, 2 
D. D. Young, 2 

II. P. Mitchell, 3 
Pleasant A. Witt, 2 
Jas. M. Simmons, 1 
Jno. D. Strange, 2 
Jas W. Dudley, 1 
Lewis Tucker, 4 


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Vol. a. 


1 , *. __ . ,u-,.. , 

No. 14. 



Alabama, Barbour county, 
January 1 1, 1847. 

Bret hrkn Ed|tors: It has been some 
time since you herd from me, and it has 
become my dutyjs agent to send on some 
money which I an indebted; and having 
procured some ney subscribers for your 
much esteemed m\;senger, the Primitive, 
I have concluded lyvould send you a few 
of my thoughts, and scriptural proofs why 
there are so many in this our day that 
speak so much evil of your uveet messen- 

The reason why it is so nur.h spoke 
against is, because what the prcious breth- 
ren write are the words of eernal truth: 
For, brethren, I believe there ?e the very 
same kind of self-righteous ftarisees in 
this our day, as were in the lay of our 
blessed Redeemerwhen he vvasibernacling 
hereon earth, preaching his on everlast- 
ing'gospel. For he told themut a certain 
timey because I tell you th truth ye 
believe me not; and further sad, which of 
you convinceth me of sin, anif I say the 
truth! ' why do ye not believ me And 
he further said, he that is f God hear- 
eth God's word; ye therefre hear them 
not, because ye are not of Od. 

Brethren, have those selfrighteous re- 
ligionists of the present dajever convin- 
et?d us that what the pre'ious brethren 

write in the Primitive are not the words' 
of eternal truth? I can say for one they 
have not convinced me, neither can they, 
convince one that knows what truth is, I 
do not wonder at so many following" their 
pernicious ways, the reason they follow 
them because the way of truth is evil spo-' 
ken of; and our Saviour said, ,v\hy do ye 
not understand myspeech? Even because, 
ye cannot hear every word. Ye are of 
your father the deVil, and ths lusts' of your 
father ye will do; he was a murderer from 
the beginning, and abode not in the truth ' 
because there is no truth in him. When 
he speaketh a lie he speaketh of his own 
for he is a liar and the father of it. These 
words, brethren, were spoken by our bless- 
ed Redeemer to the self-righteous Phari- 

Dear brethren, sorry am I to have to' 
tell you, that we have among us in this 
section of countrya people called .Baptists/ 
which I esteem no better than those very 
people which our Saviour spoke of: Ears 
ye have, and hear not; and eyes, and see . 
not, Sic. I fear that, the interior ear of 
their understanding has never opened to 
the blessed gospelof Jesus Christ, amlhinV 
crucified; nor they never have been made 
to see vyith an eye of faith, that God for 
Christ's sake had pardoned their sins. 
For if they had been brought to the know- 
ledge of truth which is in Jesus, they 
would not speak so much evil of the truth. 
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth 
shall make you free. Hence, dear breth- 
ren and gi»ter», don't it appear very phtrB 



from the words of our blessed Jesus, who 
spake as never man spake, that wherein a 
poor dead sinner is made free through the 
truths of the gospel, that he then is free 
from his father the devil; and will no lon- 
ger speak evil of ihe truth. 

DVar brethren', I am a poor unworthy 
creature not meet to be ealled a Primitive 
Baptist: but if I know any thing about my- 
self, my desire is to live and die a Primi- 
tive, though of all people we are persecu- 
ted the most. But, dear brethren, one of 
the greatest proofs that we are (he chil- 
dren of God is when we suffer persecution; 
for our Saviour told his disciples before 
hi* assetitiOiij that they would have to benr 
persecution; and we should not think it 
strange that we suffer the same conflict. 

Now, brethren. I wish to fet' you know 
lh»l there iffa kind of Baptist about here 
tha' preach' up freewill. n\A fret- agency. 
&,(». We have a preaehe* in our settle- 
ment that ha* gone so far k Hi- tellth< peo- 
ple that if they would m ih< if p irt . he 
would be' ."feA-uri'ty 'hat Jh.Ajs would do his; 
that th y could meet .lesis on the half way 
ground by their guod deed* and peifirra- 
a-nces 1 .. 

when we hear that we p'oo?' despised feeb?e 
few are so evil spoken of; for if we were of 
the world, the world would love \M 
own. For' i : n a' certain place our Saviour 
told his disciples, wo unto you if all men 
should speak well of you. We find that 
the followers of the week and lowly Lamb 
of God have ever been a persecuted people, 
and evil spoken of; it b?gan when Cain 
slew Abel, because Abel's offering was re- 
ceived and Cain's rejected. Far. brethren^ 
we know that which ii? of the earth is o ar , 
thy; how can any poor earthy creature,, 
who is dead in trespass aid sins, re instate 
himself in the favor of Gol? For we learn 8 
that in Adam all died,- anl m Christ all 
shall be made alive.. 

Yea, brethren,, t helie-e that all that 
were uiven to t'.e Son f ; od ; j n lhe cove _. 
nam, will be Quickened aid be made alive; 
not by their own Ireewill^bilily, but be- 
cause ie»r, son*. God ha'i sent forth the 
Spirit of his Sou ioio voo hearts, crying, 
Abb;., Father Was this 'one by the cre- 
amre'sg.od deS-ls and peformances, or 
free will ability? | thmknot. but I find; 
it was all doneMuoughajj-bv ihe &locd of 
the. everlasting Covenawi, which was order- 

Brethren. We are commanded not ie j erl m all thing* and sure 
judge; I cannot help Hging. when I hear * I mu-t clos- b subscribing myself your 

man teach stich doctrine; (or it is giving | u-nwo-ilby broth r.. 

the lie to all the tButrrsns the gospel For j 

if grace is obtained by any good deeds, or — 

performances of the creature, I can say fori 

one that I have never been ible to do am 

of fchose good works as they esteem them, 

fop I find when I would do good, evil i> 

for th; primitive baptist. 


Brethren, when such men preach such 
spurious doctrine, giving the lie lo all the 
true gospel of Christ, having no authority 
for such doctrine in the holy Bible, which 
is the man of our counsel; can it be said 
that such characters, are of God? If they 
were, they would hear God's words. 

Now, my dear beloved brethren and sis 
ters, a wordof consolation. There is one 
thing that should make us lift up the hand 
that hangs down, and the feeble knee, 

Kxirut from he Minutes of the eighth an- 
nual s.smo of the 'Zion's Rest" Prim- 
ttive Baptn Association, held at Prim- 
itive Ml Pleasant Marengo 
county, Al. commencing on Friday be- 
fore the 3i(Lord's day in October, 1846.. 

The Zion's Rst Primitive aaptist As*o~ 
ciation, to in ( hutches whom she Re- 
presents seneth Christian lover 

Dearly eloved Brethren in the- 

Lord:— I hrouh a well ordered chain of 

God's Providene we are permitted as. 

humble instium«,ts, if, his hands, to ad- 



dies* you, by way of a Circular. And 
A'o'me nttw' brethren to call your attention 
totheall important subject of effectual 
calling Effectual calling i- the work of 
God'* spirit, whereby convincing us of 
our sin 1 , and misery, enlightening; our minds 
with the knowledge of Christ and renew- 
fngou'r wills, he doth persuade and enable 
us to embrace Jesus Christ, freely offered 
to us in the Gospel. This may be consid- 
ered as a call from darkness to light, from 
the fellowship of the world to the felrow 
ship of Christ; from miserj to happiness, 
from sin to holiness; finally from ali chea- 
ted good to the enjoyment of eternal felici- 
ty; it is considered in the Scriptures a ho- 
ly calling, a heavenly calling &c. "Whom 
he did foieknow them he also did Predes- 
tinate, to be conformed to tie image of his 
son, and whom he did predestinate them 
he also called " Anil wh>a. did he call 
Ihem to? he called them to Holiness, to 
Glory, and to virtue; and whom he called 
them He alio justified,- and (ilorified; and 
it is termed an hoHy calling 2nd I im 
Not only as it calleth u* to Holiness, but 
as it is sacred, peculiarly set apart, and ap- 
propriated to an hol\ people, namely: 
those whom th*Lord set ap-»rt for Wmselt. 
whose eternal, sanctifying them in his- de- 
cree was the original cause of their being 
sanctified, actually. He loved themwith 
an everlasting love, therefore with living 
kindness doth he draw them— .ler. 13 3. 
In effectual calling the creature is not urn- 
ed to God by the hair of the head nor 
doth He content himself with- willmgand 
wondering, wooing and beseeching, that 
it might be so, nor merely by proptijnd- 
ing moving and striving by moral susion 
and threatnings> which are of little ivail, 
with a dbrk understanding and fixed iimi^ 
ty whicli every man is acted by. Jul by 
the putting forth- of a power invincble, a 
power that will not hear nay, but that it 
will do what it undertakes. T< do a 
thing effectually is to do it pflettly, 
thereby successfully. The oppser of 
truth is ready to ask if the spiii of the 

Lord does not strive with every man alike- 
in an*wer we say if it does, why did not 
Nbram's father's whole house go from 1 
Chaldea, as well as Abram? And in the 
days of Lot, why did not the Angel take 
the rest of the People of Sodom, as well a* 
Loi? and why not Christ have taken Zeb- 
edee as well as his sous? And why did 
Christ speak to the world in Parables?' 
and when apart with his disciples expound 
the whole matter to them, ^saying uritr> 
you it is given to know the mystery of 
the Kingdom," when £<iven to them? 

Before the World began, "according as* 
he hath chosen us in bitnserf before the 
foundation of the world, thai We should be' 
holy ami wnhout blame, before Him in-' 
Love." But there is a knowledge of good 
and evil. iJVat Ada-m attained by transgress- 
ion, and every rational being possesses' 
more or less of it; even a Mirrelf was fill- 
ed with it. When the dreadful conse- 
quences of hell, and Sinai's thunder* pours' 
foith upon a guilty head, conscience says 
to the creature 1 am asniE-er, so far from 
ibis feeling being ihe spirit of God that 
givelh life, it is an operation ol the Law 
that worketh deaih. and awful it is tore-" 
member, that inere are thousands now 
shining professors in the world that have 
only heard the sharp clap of Sinai's thun 
der, and have mistaken it for the word of; 
life; while it is only the voice of death, 
saying pay me that, thou owest, for if there' 
had been a law given that could have given j 
hfe, verily righteousnos should have been 
by the law. But faith and holiness are the 
effecis and certain consequences of election. 
The counsel of God concerning election is 
secret. The minister knows not who are 
the objects and therefore must pieach to 
all according to his commission. And yet 
how ofien is it that you see several per- 
sons seated together and one deeply affect-' 
ed by the operation of the Spirit of God^ 
and all the rest" perfectly unconcerned, \9 
he better by nature 1 ' thart they? by no* 
means, but the Lord deals in this as in the 
matter of lots. Saul was Preappointed te 



be King, yet all Israel mast come together, 
and lots must be cast on the whole nation, 
asif the person was yet undesigned. 1st 
Sam. 9. 16, with chap. 10, 2S, 21st. The 
falling of the lot was wholy contingent as 
to men, another might have been taken Efs 
well as he it fell on, but the Lord disposed 
it and it fell on the right person. Prov. 
16, 33rd. So touching the Gospel it is 
sent to a place where perhaps Ofte, or very 
few elect persons are, and those only shall 
be taken by it and yet it must be published 
to the whole promiscuously, but the Holy 
Ghost, who knoweth the deep things of 
God brings it to the hearts of those for 
whom il is prepared — of which the Jailor 
and Lydia, and others are examples 

And further, it is worthy of remark 
what sort of men the Lord called to the 
work of the Ministry while on earth in the 
fiesh — not the learned, but lie illiterate; 
an l d of" these such raffst eminently as had 
neither elegancy of speech nor majestic 
presence — 2d Cor. 10 10ih. and the end 
of this was tharjt might appear and men 
might be convinced that their faith stood 
not in the wisdsm of men, but in the pow- 
er of God — 1st Cor. 23, 5. The natural 
unaptnes.'t of the person commonly wrought { 
upon, to receive those high born princi- 
ples, not many of the wise and noble, but 
the poor, base, and foolish, that is, in 
comparison ofother 1 -. And why so? Be- 
cause uo flesh should glory in his presence, 
and vet take notice that the wise and the 
noble were not excluded; witness the wife 
of Herod's steward, Joseph Nicodemus, 
Surgua Paulusa prudent man, which fur- 
ther illustrates the power of God, in that 
he did by those weak and contemptible 
means, bring in also such a** these. To 
whom then does those requisites of salva- 
tion belong? To elect persons, and that 
in right of their election. Elect, believer, 
arc controvertible terms. Every believer 
is an elect person, and every elect person 
is or shall be a believer in his time, accord- 
ing to his foreordaining or saving, for who 

-ailing. 2d Tim 1,9. Then ir the Divine" 
power be so absolutely necessary, rest not 
on means or ministry though the best, ttse' 
them as means but still have your eye to- 
wards that power and grace which alone 
can make themi effectual. Elisha smote 
the waters with Elijah's mantle, but it was" 
the God of Elijah who parted it hither and 
thither to mske a way over, 2d Kings, 2*, 
14. Men rolled the stone from Lazarus' 
grave, but Christ brought Lazarutf forth, 
John 11, 41, 44. So the ministry preach- 
es rhrtst to the people. But if is God on- 
ly that gives the understanding to know 
Him. Ifall thU pertain to salvation be' 
given in right ^election, then let every 
soul that seeks for spiritual gifts and would) 
be sure to obtari, apply himself to electing 
love, and let ojr thankfulness for all that 
we have or hr^pe for, be referred to tha>t 
love, for that ij the rock of which they are 
hewn, the fountain and spring from whence 
they proceed. Electing love not only pro- 
vides us a horte, but sends us the Divine 
Spirit to be a tompany keeper and direct- 
or by the way, f«0 we see that spiritual' 
blessings are a gift, and will not admit any 
plea that may seem to make them wages. 

Lazarus loved Christ yet his sister* 
would not use that as their argument. But 
"Lorl be whom thou lovest is sick," John 
11,3 VV hat the Scriptores holds fbrlh a* 
a moive with God that we may plead, and 
thatm his name, and indeed nothing else 
is peadible at the throne of Grace. tk Pot 
we inow not what we should pray for as 
we night, but the spirit itself maketh in^ 
teression for us with groanings which' 
caniol be uttered," Rom. 8, 26. Na 
creaure ever yet prayed aright till such 1 
interession was made, and such interces- 
sion s the effect of electing love. God 
sendiforth his spirit from his throne, and 1 
breat.s into the heart of the creature, and 1 
thougi he may have been all his life a vile 
persecutor, like a Paul he falls to the 
groom in the inner man, saying willingly,. 
"Lotdwhat wilt thou have me to do." 

h*s savtd us and called ue with an holy j if nefol poor we Bee{ j Dot bt over ^j^ 



©us, how we shall speck nor think we shall 
fare worse, for coming in so tattered and 
pitiful a condition. Free grace is compas- 
sionate rich and beautiful, you are not the 
Je99 welcome because you bring nothing 
The host qualification is to tind yourself 
|ll qualified, empty, blind, miserable, hun- 
gry, poor, naked, &c. Fleeting love hath 
provided enough and more, not only bread 
and water, though those would be readily 
received by a hungry and thirsty soul, but 
wine and mik. "Wine on the lees a feast 
pf fat things. Isa. 25, $. Not fig leaf a 
prqns, but long robes of linen white and 
plean," Rev. 19, 8. 

Time and our limits call us to a close, 
and we shall submit these remarks to you 
with Paul's admonition to his Roman bre- 
thren,'* Let jus walk honestly as in the day, 
not in rioting and drunkenness, not in 
jclamoring and wantonness, not in strife 
and envying But put ye on the Lord Je- 
sus Christ and make no provision for the 
pesh tp fulfil the lust thereof." Then 
brethien, having dojie all we can. let us 
walk humbly as liviig on another's boun- 
ty, assuming nothing to ourselves, but as- 
cribing the whole of «ur salvation to elect- 
ing grace. Amen. 


Madison county, Ky. \ 
Jan'y, 25. 1*47. \ 

Pear Editors: Having formtd some 
alight acquaintance with the "Pjimiiive 
Baptist," through old bro. Isaac TiMery 
and some other brethren in the mountains 
who aretubsenbers; 1 concluded ilso to 
become a subscriber. 

As to my faith, or the doctrine I main- 
tain by whicb alone, God can be jj*t and 
the justifier of him that bpliereth ir Jesu«; 
it is called hard doctrine by the la ge mass 
of professors of various denoninaiions 
litigmg whom I live. Yet in truih it is 
the only ea^y doctrine. It pro/ides all 
things for the sinner — all spiritial bless- 
ing— «nd then bestows them fredy, «<whh- 

out mone) - and without price." I believe 
all sinners are by nature, "dead in tres- 
passes and sins." Eph. ii. i; and the rea- 
son they do not thus remain, is, that '*God 
who is rich in mercy, for h)9 great love 
wherewith he loved us even when we were 
dead in sin, hath quickened us together 
with Christ." Hence I have no faith in 
the doing powers of ungodly men to get 
religion as they call it. "Make the tree 
good and his fruit shall be good." 

I believe the righteousness of Jesui 
Christ imputed to the sinner is the only 
ground of his acceptance with CJod. "Now 
to him that worketh, the reward is not 
reckoned of grace but of debt : But tq him 
that worketh, not, but helieveih. on Him 
thai justifieth the ungodly, his fuith is 
counted for lighteousness " 

1 have thus, in a short way, given you a 
few items of my faith, that you may un- 
derstand my 4< wheieabouts." Respectful- 
ly yours. JAS. W. DUDLEY. 

to editors primitive baptist 

Moitticel/o, Jefferson county, Florida,} 
Jan. \3th, 1847 $ 

Dear Friends: After a long delay [ 
attempt to send you a few lines and to 
send on my dues; and to bid farewell to 
my readers that are afar off. I have been a 
reader ol'the Primitive Baptist about si* 
years, and seen and read many interesting 
communications that were and are calcula- 
ted to establish and comfort ihe saints. 

In the bounds of the Oeklocknee Asso- 
ciation the last year, there were baptized 
33 — received by letter, 53 — confession of 
faith, 1— restored 6, — dismissed by letter, 
62 — excommunicated, 33 — dead, 21— to- 
tal in fellowship, 897. The Old Baptists 
have many trials here, but the Lord will 
deliver them out of them all; and they will 
at last be safely landed away, where sor- 
row and sighing will be no more. Some 
times when my mind soars away to that 
heavenly world, and contemplates the joys 
that will there be felt, J then feel like I 



(want to go to that country. But at that [short prayer: Oh, Lord, save my sou!, 
day I shall have to stand in my lot. Fare j Upon seeing this, his wife wept. He said 

well to you all. 



Lowesville, Madison county. Jilu. 
Jan 1847. 
Dear Brethren Editors: Please give 
the following Obituary a place jn your pa 
per, and you will oblige the undersigned. 

DIED, at b'9 residence fifteen miles 
Dorlh east of Hunlsvjlle, iVJadison county, 
A\& , John Layman, aged TO years and 
$2days. Farther layman was born in 
Pennsylvania, near Yot ktown, in the year 
Of our Lord one thousand seven hundied 
and seventy seven, and lived part ol his 
time in Vtiginta and some in Kast Tennes- 
see; but lived near 40 years in Madison 
county, in vvhirh county he died on the 
23nd day ol January, 1M7- 

The subject whose death we are now 
going to delineate, was a kind, loving and 
affectionate husband; a good citizen, an ac 
pommoddling neighbor- But we come 
now io sjjeau of his Chn»ian diameter, 
which is the most pleasing part He was 
a member of ihe Primitive B iptisi deiiom- 

lo her, my dear, weep not for me; the Loid 
wi)l take me home to his everlasting habit- 
ation. He then cried, I am happy, lam 
happy; and lost his speech. 

Thus died Father Layman. He left a 
faithful wife tp sorrow for him with many 
kind friends to mourn after hjm; but he is 
now sjnging the theme of redeeming grace 
and dying love, lar Irom this worjd pi sorr 

GEO K CLJiMPITT, writer. 
N B. The Huuisville Democrat wjlj 
please copy the above. 

Ji Virse composed by the writer. 
May all his U tends in love combine, 

His wj.ioivVspirow to soothe; 
.And pray Kod by grace divine, 
May keep mi by his love. 

G. N. C. 

From the Signs of the Times. 


The Miami Association ol Regular Bap. 
lists, tin t'i the s'xtral Churches whum 
she repiesenis, sends thus' ian love: 

Dear Mkethke.v in the Lqrd:-^ 
rhrough 'be tenilpi tiereies ol our Heaven* 
jnatton lor near 45 yeats, and though t ; e ly Faiher, we have again been lavorej 
head pf this good pld soldier of ihe ctoss with the privilege of meeting together in 
j)ad become silvered oxer with the frosis an as.»oeia;e capacity to consult on the 
piyo winjters, yet he retain'*! his temper tbj"gs i hat pertain to the Redeemer's Kings 
a.s smooth as ever; and witii a strong mind dom, and peace of foil's children, From 
was ready to w.ejcpme dgalh, ami speak of t<e lepeis pi Correspondence Irpm the sev? 
gojngto God and to eyeila^ing blis> wiih eial Churches, and our sister Associations, 
great firmness. And even iyiii|c conflict- we sed thai the enemy has broken in 
ing with the king pf terrors, he exmbiied among IS to war oui peace, not withstandr 
a great knowledge ol hjs approaching djsso- ing sone have been added to our number 
Juijon. And though he suffered much by, as the lace of our minute* will 
pain, b e Sk 'd he soon should go to God and show. 

glory at the right hand of God in heaven. In accordance with a long established 

The day befoie.he died, I asked him il custom ;pu wil| doubtless expect from us a 

he was willjng to die? He answered yes, [ ( ireular Address; in which we would state 

1 am going to pay a debt i h • t 1 owe to God. that we lelieve that God regenerates sin = 

At this time, his faithful v^ife asked him to 
take some medicine; he refused and cross- 
ed his hands and said to her, lei me die in 
peace. Me then prayed the following 

n^rs by his Holy Spirit iiulepr ndently 
nf any neans; for jt is the Spirit that' 
quickeneti; and the Saviour say s, •'! am' 
the way, tie tiuth, and the life." And. 



again lie say«, ''No man can come unto 
sme, except l lie Father which sent me 
■draw him, and i will raise him up at the 
Sast day."— John vi. and 44ih. And again 
*he savs, "My sheep hear my voice, and I 
know them, and ihey follow me, and I 
give unio them eternal life, and they shall 
never perish." — John x. 27. 25. Many 
passages might be q mied to prove our 
doctrine, but this must suffice at present. 
Paul says that, all Scripture is given by 
inspiration of God, and is profitable lor 
doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for 
instruction in righteousness, lhal the man 
of God may be thoroughly fortius bed unto 
all good work-*;" ihe substance of all the 
Scriptures heing contained in the New 
Testament, for it contains a revelation ol 
Chris', with all his saving benefits, which 
as the subject and burthen of the Law and 
Che Prophets; therefore we go to *. to he 
thoroughly fu mi shell unt > all good works* 
and being thus furnisue I by the great Head 
of the Church, let |s walk by llv* same 
rule, and not veil th«tfair habitation ol Zi- 
on, by miiiilini therewith the f.ijselv call- 
ed, benevolent ins'it\itioiis of antichrist to 
whom they belong: for whenever they 
have been countenanced by the Church 
they haye never failed 1o produce discoid, 
strife, and divisions among the biethren. 
And indeed from this course of receiving 
the commandments and traditions of men, 
instead of the Oracles of God. the , 'hurch 
has suffered the greatest calamines that 
have ever befa'len her, in all age? of the 
world. If you would promote Christian 
love and fellowship, guard well the pulpit, 
he sure that your minister is sound in the 
faith of the Gospel, before you gire him 
the oversight of "he ehurches; Ifll it not 
suffice that he privately profess, to know 
and love the truth, or in a few discourses 
publicly declares it, for this the emissaries 
of Satan will often do, in order thereby to 
gain admittance into Churches, and by 
their fair speeches deceive the hearts of the 
simple; but prove them to be such as con 
/st»miy affirm the things that become sound 

doctrine — that contend earnestly for the 
faith once delivered to the saints, and that 
are not afraid nor ashamed, on all occasions 
to declare the truth in all its parts and 
beauty, and expose, the doctrines of men 
and devils, in all their deformities. He 
not deceived by the popular crv that, vour 
minister will be unpopular, and your con- 
gregation small; for it is far better to have 
an unpopular minister, a sound church, and 
a small congregation, than a large congre- 
gation, a corrupt church and a popular 
minister of Salan at the heal of it There 
fore, brethren, if there com" any unto you 
that bring noj 'ha d ictrioe of Christ, re- 
ceive them not into your houses, neither 
bid then (lad speed, 'remembec t,hat they 
thai bid them God "peed, are partakers 6t 
Ineir evil deeds. Chen brethren.-, as you 
regard the fellowship oftfie saints.' the love 
of God. and 'he w lire of Zton guard 
against ' ' p 8 ion From 'his quart r. Y-u 
had riaueb n ,te ba •vithout a pastor than 
to chI , enroii'-.ige qi even countenance an 
impnsier Let your past sufferings and 
'rials from ihi- source be a less in to you 
(or- your future practice Look well also 
to the discipline and rules laid down by 
your blessed Redeemer for the government 
and regulation of the social affurs of the 
Church, that they be faithfully executed. 
Be careful that you do not nourish, or en 
courage in your own houses, any toot of 
bi'terness or disorderly practices that tend 
to n ar your peace or the fellowship of 
Brethren But walk in love, even as 
Christ also has loved us and given himself 
for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God 
for a sweet smelling savor VVe would 
also suggest to you the importance of be- 
ing on your guard in the reception of mem- 
bers, let not your judgment be overcome 
by your passions, but try every experience 
related to you, by the unerring word of 
truth, before you extend to them the right 
hand of fellowship; knowing that graceless 
professors are not only useless members in 
the Church, but ate burdens and weights 
to be borne by the Church until with diffi- 


enlty they are removed. Finally, | Breth- 
ren, cultivate among yourselves love, 
peace, meekness, brotherly kindness, be 
kind and affectionate one to another, ten- 
der hearted, forgiving one another even as 
God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you: 
while on the other hand we would admon- 
ish you lo stand aloft from AnlichrisJ 
and, all his progeny, touch not, taste not, 
handle not, any of the abominations which 
are all to perish; beware of Mystery 
Babylon, that you receive it not into your 
house, that you be not partaker of her 
plagues, but keep yourselves from the 
world, so shall the fellowship of the saints 
abound; being knit together in love, so 
shall you keep the unity of the Spirit in 
the bond of peace. In conclusion, a word 
of exhortation to those who are placed as 
watchmen of Zion's walls. 

Dear Brethren, remember the great, re- 
sponsibility resting upon you that are called 
to be soldiers under the kipg of Zion, for 
you are set forward in defence of the gos 
pel of Christ, against the kings and adver- 
saries. That you. are lo wrestle, not with 
flesh and blood, but, against principalities 
and powers, against spiritual wickedness in 
high places; remember that you will of- 
ten have to meet your enemy in d sguise 
far Satan himself is transformed ioVQ a, > 
angel of light, then you need n >t marvel if 
his ministers profess to be ministers of 
righteousness, for thi« character they gen- 
erally assume, the more easily lo accom- 
plish their diabolical schemes. They will 
come in the character of friends, and en 
deavor to beguile you with the spirit of 
compromise and flattery; but stand aloof 
from them, so long as loey carry the body 
of Antichrist, whether professed friends or 
avowedjenemies, and give no place lo ihem, 

salves, by walking according to the gospel 
rule, and thus be ensamples to the flock of 
God, by declaring the gospel faithfully on 
all occasions without reserve; and by so 
doing you will stop the mouths of gainsay- 
ers and save yourselves from the chasten- 
ing rod of your heavenly Father, the re- 
proach of i he enemy, and of being ca«J 
away by your brethren. Take heed to 
the doctrine by preaching it faithfully and 
fearlessly, and drawing the line of distinc- 
tion between truth and error; by exhibit- 
ing Christ with all his charms, glory, an<| 
saving benefits to the believer; and by 
showing Antichrist with all his abomina- 
tions, hypoci icies, deceptions, am) lying 
wonder* you will thereby not only leer! 
the Church of God which he has purchased 
with his own blood, but save them from the 
errors and impositions of the Man of Sin. 
By pursuing this course you will doubtless 
be slandered and reproached by the Ish- 
maelitish mockers and enemies of t hrist, 
and have all manner of evil spoken ol you 
lalsely, but let none of these things move 
you; let the love of Christ, his truth, and 
the little ones that believe in Jesus, prompt 
you to faithfulness in the Redeemer's 
cause, and to endure hardness as good sol- 
diers of Christ, so that when the Captain 
of your salvation shall call you hence, you 
may with a good conscience say, "I have 
fought the good fight, 1 have kept the; 
faith, 1 have finished my course, hence- 
lorth there is laid up for me a crown of 
righteousness, winch the Lord the right- 
eous JuJge will give me at that day, and 
not to me only, but unto all them that love 
his appearing " 



no not for one hour. But take to your j — — ■ rr 

selves the whole armour of God, and stand Those subscribers whose accounts are 
fast in the liberty of the gospel, and fight forwarded to them will please make the 

the good fight compromising with none at 
ibeexpenceof the gospel; take heed to 
yourselves arid to the doctrine; continue in 
tbetn, for in »e doing you shall sa? « your- 

proper corrections, should they have paid 
part of it — and send us the balance, or their 
Postmaster's receipt for the same. 

GEO HOtrjlJin,PvbNsk*r. 




Thomas ton, Upson conn/}/, Ga. \ 
1st February, 1847. $ 

Dear Brethren: I again take my pen 
jn hand, to inform you that I am yet in 
the land of (he living; and have nothing 
of importance to write you, more than we 
are at peace with one another, as a denom- 
ination of Primitive Baptists. I am now 
pear fifty-eight 3 - ears of age and cannot 
flatter myself to live hut few more years, if 
any more; though I have a hope that is 
more precious to me than glittering gold. 

Np more at present, but when it goes 
yvell with you, remember me. 




as nourishing and strengthening. I now 
turn to the scriptures to show how we 
ought to use all blessings and not abuse 

Numb. 28 ch. 7: And the drink offering 
thereof shall be the fourth part of a hin for 
the one lamb: in the holy place shalt thou 
cause the strong wine to be poured unto 
the Lord fop a drink offering: 14th. And 
their drink offerings shall be half an hin of 
wine unto a bullock, and the third 
part of a hin unto a ram, and a fourth part 
of a hin unto a lamb: this is the burnt of- 
fering of every- month throughout the 
months of the year. Read the chapter 
through. Numb. 6 ch. 20, last clause, and 
after that the Nazarite may drink wine. 
See that chapter. Dcut. 14 ch. 26, And 
thou shalt bestow that money for whatso- 
ever thou lusteth after, for oxen, or 
for sheep, or for wine, or for strong 
drink, or for whatsoever thy soul 
desireth: and thou shalt eat there before 

Jefferson Co., Tenn., 
December 19 th, 184 6 
Dear brethren and sisters of the 
rimitive Baptist fyth, throughout the! the Lord thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, 
United States: \ once more take-my penjthou and thine household. These scrip- 
in hand, to let you know that I am in the tures show, that at the solemn feasts that 
land of th,e living, and still contending forj God commanded his people to perform, 
Jhat faith that was once given to the saints,! that they had to bring forward wine for 
that is, saved by grace without works. I the priest to drink; and them that lived too 

am glad to hear from you all, that yon are 
•till sound in the faith and not lead away 
by the delusions of the day which are so 
popular with the greater part of the peo- 

I now turn to another subject. I call 
your attention to that piece of brother 
McDowell's on the subject of liquor, and 
my questions that I put in the piece that I 
]ast wrote; and his evasive answers to 
them are f think a little harsh, which I 
tbjjnk none of us ought to get so with one 
another, but let all of our writing be sea- 
soned with grace and brotherly love; and 
I will try to give my views jn that spirit 
on the subject of making and using spiri- 
togs liquor, as brother McDowell has ask- 
ed me to do. 1 say that God made every 
thing on the earth before he made man, 
and then he made man with a capacity to 
receive every thing as food and drink, that 
^ »houW be satisfactory to his ta*t« as wall 

far from the place of worship to carry their 
food and drink, that they had to buy it at 
the place and such as they loved best. 

I have quoted but a few passages out of 
a great many, but I hope the reader will 
examine the word of God for to get more 
information. Again, when speaking of 
the Hebrew servant, God has given the 
owners of them direction how to send 
them away in the seventh year. Deut. 
15lh, 14th: Thou shalt furnish him libe- 
rally out of thy flock, and oqt. of thy floor, 
and out of thy wine-press: of that where- 
with the Lord thy God hath blessed thee 
thou shalt give unto him. The above 
scripture shows that they had to give their 
servants drink as well as food: think of 
this you thai own servants. I now come 
down to the New Testament. Luke 7, 
33, For John the Baptist came neither 
eating bread nor drinking wine, and ye 
sav h« hath ad«vil. 24. The Son of Ma* 



is come eating and drinking, and ye say., 
Behold a gluttonous man and a wine bib 
her, a friend of publicans and sinners. 25. 
But wisdom is justified of all her chil- 

This shows that Christ drank wine, and 
/did not stop drinking it when they called 
him a drunkard; and if his children drink 
the same as he did, wisdom is justified in 
.saving of them. Mat. 6. 31: Therefore 
take no thought saying, what shall we eat 
or what shall we drink, or wherewithal! 
shall we be clothed. 32. (For after all 
these things d# the Gentiles seek,) for 
your heavenly Father knoweth that ye 
have need of all these things. This is spo- 
ken to the .apostles, that they should go 
and preach, and God would take care of 
them; and insured them food, drink, and 
•clothing, and that God knew that the)' had 
need of drink as well as the balance that 
they would need in this life. 

1 Tim. 5. 23: Drink no longer water, 
hut use a little wine for thy stomach's 
sake and thine often infirmities. Here it 
js recommended to be used by a minister 
for his health. So down to the present 
day. 3 ch. 3: Not given t© wine, &c. 
This is giving the character of a bishop. 
,8 v. Not given to much wine, &c. This 
is spoken to the deacons. 

These passages proves that it is right to 
use wine as a drink. I think that the 
point is fuljy proven that we have a right 
to use wine as a beverage. What I mean 
by a beverage, is to drink it for gratifica- 
tion not just when we are sick, but when 
we are well; not to get drunk, nor drink 
it to an excess; but use it and not abuse it, 
as we should do with all other bless- 

J now cite your minds to the 2nd ch. of 
John, first part, to show the right of ma- 
king it. The first miracle that Christ 
wrought, he turned water to wine for the 
people to drink; and that after they had 
drank up what wine they had for the mar- 
riage, and the governor of the feast said 
that it was the best wine. But was there 
enough to make the people drunk? Yes, 
if they had not any before; to allow each 

pot to have held two firkins a piece would 
make 108 gallons. 

If Christ made wine, his ministers sure- 
ly have a right to make brandy or whis- 
key for the people to drink; and if they 
(the people) get drunk, it is their fault; for 
I think I do despise drunkenness as bad as 
any body else. I cannot see any odds in 
drinking wine or brandy, or any other 
drink that we can get drunk on, and if I 
could not make liquor and have it about 
my house without getting drunk, or my 
family, or having other people drinking it 
to excess, I would not have it at all. So I 
advise my brethren to keep sober and ci- 
vil houses. I think I do. Who has a 
right to distil spiritous liquor but a sober 
man? Surely not a drunkard. Then let 
the sober man make the liquor and deal it 
out moderately, then all is right. But 
there are I fear too many in our day, that 
say you must not use it only as medicine, 
and through deception put into the liquor 
a little bark, or some other little thing, and 
drink it through deception; but God will 
judge them, 

Christ never drunk wine as medicine, 
for he ne\ er was sick; and surely his chil- 
dren have a right to drink any kind of 
drink that they may think proper to 
drink; but be sure that none of us have a 
right to drink to even make ourselves hot 
with it, or the least intoxicated. See the 
scriptures to know the judgment of God 
against the drunkard. Always cry out 
against drunkenness, fornication, lying, 
thieving, &c; but let temperate people 
alone. The worst drunkenness that I 
have ever known, is to be drunk with the 
delusion of false religion, 

I now cite you to the following passage, 
to prov; that drinking will never be put 
out of the world while it stands. Luke, 
17. 27: They did eat, they drank, they 
married wives, they were given in mar- 
riage until the day that Noe entered into 
the ark; and the flood came and destroy-' 
ed them all. So even thus shall it be in 
the day when the Son of Man is revealed. 
Under the law dispensation, one of the 
judgments of God against the children of- 



Israel was, to take away the drink of- 

I now cite you to brother Lawrence's j 
Sermon on the 4th of July, , and you will 
see my sentiments about liquor. I did not 
ask the question that I put for brother Mc- 
Dowell to answer, respecting the apostles 
teaching a singing geography school, with 
any design he was doing wrong by 
teaching such a school; but I thought that 
he would be as far from rinding where the 
apostles taught such a school, as I would 
Where they made liquor, as that seemed 
the only reason why he could not make 

I now want all to know that God's oause 
is a drinking cause and eating, as well as to 
obey his commands in worshiping him. 
While we live here we have as much need 
of the things of this world as any body 
else. God said that the meek shall inherit 
the earth, and I cannot see how they are 
to inherit it but to use (.he blessings that 
God has given us. 

I want to let the people know that spi- 
ritous liquor is a cure for any snake bite 
or spider bite, taking it inwardly as much 
as you can bear; camphor dissolved in li- 
quor rubbed on the place is good. I think 
it right to publish this for the benefit of the 

I now come to a close by saying, may 
God keep us from all evil and enable us to 
increase in brotherly love, that our hearts 
may be knit together more stronger in 
love, i love to hear from you all. Fare- 
Well for a while. 



Farmersville, Union Parish, La 
December 30th, 1847. 
Brethren Editors: I have had a long 
acquaintance with the paper, titled the 
Primitive Baptist, in Alabama; and am 
now living in this wilderness country, 
Where the name of Old School is almost 
forgotten. I have been here twelve 
months, and have not heard the first serm- 
on preached yet, only by the soft sodder 

folks, and that is like gall and vinegar to 
me; and I have become hungry to hear 
Ihe truth. So I wish you to send the 
Primitive paper, and I have no doubt but 
I can obtain you several subscribers here. 



The Licking Association of Particular 
ItaptMs, now jn ^e-sion a) Vlt. Gilead 
iMc< liitu hnu^e. Mason county, Ky. To 
ihe \ss<>'iatious with which she Corre«- 
ponds, wishes grace, meicy and peace 
from God the Faiher, and from our Lord 
JeMis Christ. 

Dearly bk loved Brethren: — We 

are greatly pained to wi.ness the apathy 
which seems to prevail so extensively iij 
the Ziou of our God. Her enemies are 
mustering their numerous ho«ts, and 
rvatohi"g an opportunity, when she shall 
be off her guard, to make a deadly assault 
upon the citadel of truth. Brethren, are 
not the signs of the times ominous of an 
awful crisis just ahead? Should the army 
of ihe living God lay aside their weapons 
of defence, and go to sleep on their posts; 
as though they were encamped among 
their friends? It is not rational to suppose 
the army ol the alien ieel any sympathy 
for us. The commander of his, Israel's 
forces, has issued his order, "Awake, thou 
that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and 
Christ shall give thee light." "Be ye 
faithful unto death and I will give thee a 
crown of life." Should we not then buck- 
el on our armor, that we may '•fight the 
good fight of faith, and lay hold on eterrjaj 

'•Sure I must fight, if I would reign, 
Increase my courage, Lord; 

I'd bear the tod, encluie the pain, 
Supported by ihy word." 

The commander of the enemy's forces, 
is cunning and artful he watches cautiously 
for an opportunity of surprising our camp. 
Let gs hearken to the voice of our Captain, 



••Watch and pray lest ye enter into temp- 
tation." Let us cry wiifi one of old, 
• •Quicken us, and we will qa.ll on thee: 
Praw us, and we will rqn after thee.' 1 

We conclude the church of Christ ha* 
placed herself in that condition aniitj pica,l- 
Jy; \n which the .lews (the type) placed 
themselves anciently, when the servant of 
God cried, in the bitterness of hi? grief, 
"0! that they were wise, that they qnder- 
stopd this; that they would consider their 
latter end." And when the Prophet was 
commanded tq ^BJqw ye the trumpet in 
Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy 
mountain; let all the inhabitants of the land 
tremble; for the day of the Lord cometh; 
for it is nigh, at hand." We are aware that 
sluggards will say, "It if vain to serve 
God." But we trust, dear brethren, you 
and us have been made willing to 5'serve 
him with the whole heart;" yea, to "serve 
him acceptibly, with reyerence and godly 
fear." We are sure his ways are ways of 
pleasantness, and all his paths peace. The 
^ing has sajd, "If any man serve me., let 
him follow me, that where I am, there my 
servant may bea(iq: If any man serve me, 
him will my Father honor." To think of 
being hqnpred wiih a "name and a place 
in the house of God better than sons and 
daughters" — To have the Gpd of Jacob as 
pur leader and commander, while we wade 
through this wjldprness of sorrow; and to 
reign with him in eternal bliss in the 
world, to come — To be made kings and 
priests unto God — To have an immortal 
crown of glory placed upon oqr heads, and 
a palm of victory in our hands — To fight 
under a commander who has never lost a 
battle, and wno nas sa ld. "Fear not little 
flock, it is. your father's good pleasure tq 
give you the kingdom:" .Are these 
thought? not enough to inspire us with a 
holy boldness, and to cause U9 to pant tp 
meet the foe? Victory '« certain, and the 
army certainly destined ere it is Jong, to 
raise the. shout, "0, death, where is thy 
ating; O grave, where is thy victory." 

"Thanka bo onto God f who giyath ua the who participated with <**, »a<J *♦ tru«t 

victory through our Lord Jesus Christ." 
Let us remember, that "here we have nq 
continuing cjiy," — that we seek "one 
which hath foundations, whose builder and 
leaker is God," until we arrive at which, 
"the munitions of rocks are appointed for 
our defence, the Fternal God is our refuge; 
and everlasting arms underneath." It is 
his to provide: ours to obey. "If we suf- 
fer with him, we shall reign with him." 
Let us "count all things but Iqss for the ex-; 
cellency ol the knowledge of Christ Jesua 
our Lord." May his commands be our 
delight, — may we contend for that faith 
which was. on.ce delivered unto the saints, 
and prove by our worka, that we posses* 
it; then may we appropriate to qurse|ve$ 
the language, 

"Fear not, I am with thee, 0! be not 
I, I am thy God, and will still give 
the aid; 
I'M strengthen thee, help thee, and cause 
thee to stand, 
Upheld by my righteous, omnipotent 

What more, dear brethren, can we want?, 
"it is written, I will never leave thee, nor 
forsake thee " 

" The soul that on Jesus, hath leaned for 
I will not, I will not desert to his foesj 
That soul, though a " Hell should endea- 
vor to shake, 
I'll never, no never, no never for- 

Let us remember, that to fear Gftd an ^ 
keep his commandments, comprises the 
whole duty of man. 

"Then fighting in the Saviour's strength, 
Though mighty are our foes; 

We shall be conquerors all, at lengthy 
O'er all that can oppose. " 

Let us rempmber, that prayer is a strong 
weapon in putting to (light the army ol the 

We desire to thank, God that we have 
had a comfortable in' erv '* w > — peace and 
love pervaded the borders of oqr Zion. 
We received your letUrs and messengers, 

f*RlMITltt BAfTlS*. 


they had nO cause to regret their visit. 
May God bless you and us, dear brethren, 
and keep U9 in ihe truth and fellowship ol 
the Faiher and his Son JeSuS (Christ. 

Our next Association will be Holden, the 
Lord willing, with our siS'er t hurch, call- 
ed Salt river, in Anderson county, Ken 
lucky, On the 2d Saturday in September, 
1847. VVheri, and where, We hope again 
to hear from you. 

Done by Order of the Association, arid 
signed in her behalf. 

THOs. p. DUDLEV, Mod. 

Attest: J as. S. Peak, Clerk. 


if properly exercised and under the influ- 
ence of the spirit of God, am led to exclaim 
Lord save or I perish; in me there is no 
help, arid if I arri saved it must be by the 
grace and mercy of God I feel that I arri 
a sinner, and as Christ died for Si fitters, 1 
have a hope at times, that I have an inter- 
est in his preciOus blood; but if I am de- 
ceived in this most important matter, how 
awful will be my disappointment in the 
day of accounts, when the books shall be' 
opened, and another book and all whose 
names are not written therein", shall be cast 
Out &c ; many shall cry out in that day, 
saying Lord, Lord, open tfrito us; but he 
Shall say depart, I never knew you — how 

dreadful will be the sound? Good Lord 
online. Arkansas, ?',,., . 7 . ' . 

V ,« ,r,^-r c deliver us Fro'irt efrfor,- deception, Ana eve- 
Jan. 12, 1847. > ., . ■ , ■ 

Dear Brethren In renewing my r ? evi1 ""?' anH kee P us b * ih y P°we*,.ftfr 
Subscription, I send you a few lines to in- i(i f to "^selves we are sore ttferr. 
form you that the churches of Our order « rece.ved a short time since, the first 
are in peace, though we are in a cold State *&«*" of the Regular Baptist, a* paper 
And much persecution is cast on us. I published at Weston, Mo. 1 a'rrt much 
hope you may keep an eye single to the pleased with the principles and doctrine it 
glory of Godj and may you keep your seems to advocate; I wish it great success 
Columns free from all litigation, as Park- in this day of darkness, even deception arid 
erism or the two seed doctrine; as it ap- lies; go on the Strength of Israel's God, 
pears to me to be vain. I hope to see cry aloud and Spare not, show Israel her 
your paper revive and become prosperous, transgressions and the house of Israel her 
and may it be to the comforting of many sins, and contend earnestly for the Faith' 
disconsolate souls. once delivered to' the Saints; and may the? 

May God move the mind* of his minis-' Ocrd of Jacob be your buckler, shield and 
ters to draw out of the treasures of thej f orlreSs ; n a j| f your trials smd tribula- 
gospel,- for the edification of the church lions and g ive y ou grace to defend his 
and the awakening of sinners. blessed word, that is so often trodden' utf- 

JOHN HART. der foot,- and accounted insufficient to ac- 
complish his purposes,- and his name shall 
have all the glory, for to him it h Ju'stry 

I should like to get the history of the 
Welsh Baptists, by J. Davis. I hope Bro- 
ther Thorp will be a coniributer to the pa- 
ges of your paper whenever he should be 
moved thereto, as I firmly believe the seri'- 

From the Regular Baptist. 

Cool Spring, N. C April 22, 1846. 
Very dear Brother Lowe: — If I 

may be permited to use the appellation, for 

t assure you without affectation, when I 

take a view within, and see and feel my 

imperfections and sins, and of my prone 

ness to wander from the God,- f hope I de- timents he advanced in his short epistle, 

and their orthodoxy and soundness, not- 
withstanding the scoffs and contempt they 
are held by the of the present 
day. Our God is a God of purpose, and 

sire to love and worship; under these re 
flections, I often fear surely a Christian 
could not Be so often led astray in forbid- 
den patha; have auch wandering* of mind, 



his will shall be accomplished, although the should we be discouraged, though cfodd* 

and tempests, fire and smoke should ap- 
pear: the Lord will make a way in the sea- 
and paths 5 in the mighty deep; and all they 
that were incensed against thee shall be 
ashamed— -they shall be as nothing, there- 
lore, brethren,' be strongin the Lord, and 
in the power ol his might, and as Christ 
suffered without the gate, let US' go forth 
unto him without camp, bearing his re- 
proach, knowing that the foundation of 
God standeth sure; having this seal the 
Lord knows them that are his, and rio' 
weapon that is formed- against them shall 
prosper, and no tongue that shall rise Op' 
against thee in judgment but what f h 6u 
shall condemn-. This fs the heritage of 
the Saints, and their righteousness is of me 
saith the Lord. 

E>ear Brethren —seeing these things are 
so. what manner of people ought we to be!- 
in all Godly conversation and honesty, 
looking for the blessed hope and glorious 
offering of the great God and our Sa-viour, 
and we exhort ouf brethren in- the minis- 
try to cry alood and spare not. lift up your 
voice like a trumpet — say to Zion thy God 
reignelb, contend earnestly for the faith 
once delivered to the Sain'ta, and may you 
be filled- wiihall the fulness of Christ to 
the edifying of the body, in love exhorting 
unto every good work; be instant in season, 
out of season, leprove, rebuke, exhort with 
all long -tiff ring and doctrine; study a 
form of sound words that cannot be gam- 
sayed 1 , but avoid endless gent-alogies and 
questions t at gender strife rather than 
Godly edifying; and' may the Lord endow 
\ on ami us ^ it h that wisdom which com- 
eih fiom :*bove . which is first pure, then 
pe.'Ceab'le. genili , eas\ io be iniiealed. full 
o' meie\ and of good Iru-hs, without paiti- 
a ity ami withoui hypocrisy. 

JAMBS NORMS, Modem tor. 

V \vx ('. Dicken. < lerk. 

world, flesh and devil oppose. Who works 
all things after the counsel of his own will, 
and none carr hinder his Almighty power. 
Excuselbe few unconnected sentences I 
have written, r only write that I may gel 
your paper. Whether saint or sinner, I 
hope \ wis-h the prosperity of Zion, and it 
gives me much pleasure to peruse such pa- 
pers as yours. When it goes well wiih 
thee remember poor unworthy me, and if a 
saint one the' least of all.- 


TroS¥ the Western Predestinarian Baptist, 


The Messengers of the Vermilion (Illinois) 
Association of Regular Baptists, to the 
Churches of which they are members, 
and Associations with which we corres 
frond, sendefh greeting: 

BeiloVed Brei hren ris the Lord: 
_^.-Th"e time has again rolled round, when, 
according, to our common usage, you will 
expect' an 1 address from u"s; and while em 
bracing the present opportunity of writing 
this short epistle, we feel bound to render 
gratitude to God on every remembrance 
of his mercy towards u*s, and the general 
peace and prosperity of the daughier of 
Zion, who has long been bewailing herself 
on account of murderers. But the Lord 
hath said, comfort ye, comfort ye. my peo- 
ple; speak comfortably to Jerusalem, say 
unto her that her warfare is accomplished 
— that her iniquity is pardoned, lor she 
hath received at the Lord's h<nd. riotrbf 
for all her sins', rejoice barren, thou that 
did'st not bear, thou shall not he pur to 
shame, nor remember ihe reproach of thy 
widowhood any more, fear n'of for I sim 
with thee: I will bring nr¥\ S*fed from the 
east and 1 gather thee from the west — I will 
bring the blind by a way thai the\ know- 
not — I will lead? them in paihs that the 
have not known - 1 will make dark- ss 
light before them, and crookVd things 
Straight. These things will I do unto ih'em 
and not forsake {hem; why then, brethren, 

Big Woods, Louisiana, 1 
Jan. 20, 1847. 5 
My Brethren: — How long will it be 
before the great contention will be over? 



that those who profess to know Christ, 
might learn to know that the gospel which 
is from above is the power of God, and 
not man. There seems to be a notion 
gone out in the world, that the preachers 
can save. I sometimes rejoice to know 
that the God of all the earth cannot do 
wrong. Farewell, brethren. When it 
goes well vvith you remember me and 

From the Predestinarian Baptist, 

The Okaw Association 
Of Regular Baptists, held their annual 
meeting on the first Friday, Saturday, and 
Sunday in the present month, with the 
Concord Church, Little V\ abash Point, 
Coles co. Ills. The representation from 
the Churches was tolerably full, and there 
was quite a number of visiting brethren in 
the Ministry from corresponding Associa- 
tions. In consequence of their having 
changed time of holding the annual meet- 
ing, the brethren who attended were most- 
Jy volunteers, and did not attend by the 
direct appointment of the Associations 
from which they came. Elder Win. H. 
Martin was chosen Moderator, and Na- 
thaniel Parker, Clerk. V\ ,' e have seldom. 
if ever, witnessed more harmony, and unan- 
imity at any Association we have ever 
risited. The brethren met, apparently in 
lovo, transacted their business as an Asso- 
ciation in peace, and with the utmost cor- 
diality. It has been the lot of this Asso- 
ciation, within the last few years to pass 
through quite a fiery ordeal, and it is pre- 
dicted by some, that her difficulties are not 
yet done. This may be the case to some 
extent, as we think it not unlikely that 
there are some Armenians lurkingin some 
of the Churches for the want of a better or 
*nore agreeable home; still we think there 
are few, and of course do not apprehend 
any tery serious difficulty. Their next 
Associa'.ional meeting is to be with the 
Union Church, on the Friday before the 
first Sunday in June, 184 7. 

To mourn without measure, is folly; not 
to mourn at all, is insensibility. 


Manna in the luilderness. P. M. 
When Israel savv the manna fall, 
They gathered fast, it pleased them ally 

It covered all the ground; 
But soon they found it would not keepy 
In vain they tried to save a heap? 

Corrupted soon was found. 

This manna was most precious breatfy 
When all the host was truly fed, 

The rest did melt away:' 
In vain to hoard it up they tried, 
It then bred worms and putrified, 

And so it would not stay. 

They had to gather day by day, 
For so they found it would not stayy 

It must be had anew; 
They slept secure through all the nigh!,. 
And when the morning brought the light, 

The manna was in view. 

Of this kird care — how sweet the prosf, 
Who gathered most had just enough, 

Enough who gathered least; 
When first it fell, they found it good, 
From heaven it came, 'twas precious foody 

They had a royal feast. 

They soon began to cry for meat, 
For manna now they eould not eat, 

For it vvas only bread; 
The Lord in anger sent them quails, 
To show his treasure never fails, 

On quails they soon were fed. 

Although the corn and wine should fail',, 
The prayer of faith it will prevail, 

For blessings from on high; 
And so our gracious Lord provides, 
For every thing we need besides, 

Though creature streams go dry. 

He is the shepherd of the sheep, 
His hand will all securely kccp r 

And so they shall be fed; 
Thaough dangers thick and every snare, 
They all shall live and persevere, 

They shall be gently led. 

And when they're call'd from hence to go, 
They joyful leave all things below,. 

And soar to worlds above; 
Their happy souls forever blest,. 



And there they shall forever rest, 
And sing redeeming love. 

Macon, Ga. May 6, 1846. 


for' Trie Primitive baptisti 

North Carolina. C.B.Hassell, Willinmstor, 
R. MLG. Moore, German/on. W. w.Mizell, Ply- 
mouth. Benji Bynurh, Nahuntu Depot, H.\ve- 
Ta,Averasboro' . BurwellTemple./cu/e/g-A. Thos. 
\\-A\r\ry, Smitlifii Id. James H. Sasser, Wayney- 
boro'. L. B'. Be'rirVefL Hea/hville. Cor's Cana- 
day, Cruvensville William Welch, Abbott's 
Creek, A i B. Bains, Jx« Stanhope. C. T. Saw- 
yer, Powell's Point. H. Wi'lkersoii, West Point. J. 
Miller, Milton Park. Isaac Meekins and Samuel 
Rogers, Columbia, Wm,. Mi Rushing, While's 
Sibie. James Hi Smith, Wilmington. Jacob Her- 
ring, Goldsboro', Si Tatum. Elizabeth City, Ad- 
am Hooker, Salem Church, Abner Lamb, Cam- 
den C. H, 

South Carolina. Wm. S. Shaw, Hock Mills 
W, B. Villard, Sr. Aiken. M.McGraw, Brown's. 
S. Li Simpson, ' Winnsb'oro' , Ji Gi Bowers, Whip- 
py Swamp, Wm< Nelson, Camden, G. Mai 
thews, Germanville. J. C. Lucas, Lexington C, PI. 
Amos Hill, Pleasant Vieih. 

GtORGiA. John McKenney, Forsyth. Thomas 
Amis, Lexington. John Mi Kield, Macon. John 
W. Turner, Pleasant Hill. W'lliam Trice and 
William D.Taylor, T/wnaston. Ezra McOrary, 
Wa+rcntpn. Prior Lewis, Thomasvil/e, I, Las- 
setter, Fernon. Abner Durham, Greenville, Geo. 
i,eeVes,Milledgeville. W.J. Parker, Chenuba. J,P. 
EU\s, Finer ills. F. Haggard, Athens. A.M.Thomp- 
son, Fort Valley, Daniel (yNee\,OliveGnwe. John 
Wayne, Cain's, R, Si Hamriek, Carroll/on. D. 
Sin ilh, Cool Spring Moses H. Denman, Marietta 
Jethro Gates, Mulberry Grove, Isharri Edvyards, 
Marion. Joseph Daniel, Fish's. R, L. Hayne, 
Lebanon. T. w. Dearitig/CoMo/z Bluer. E. Davis, 
Grein HilL 

Alabama. A.Keaton.-Se/wion/. H. Dance and 
W. Bizzell, Eulaw. E.Bell, Liberty HilL L 
G.Wallirer, Miltdn. Hi Williams. Ha 'ana, S. 
Daniel, Claiborne, E.Daniel, Church Hill, i. 
Carpenter, Sr. Clinton, J, \IcQueen,//Owni/«'/roro'. 
W\n.Ta\\ey , Mount Moriah, B Upchnrch, Bene- 
tola. Si'H;amrick. Planlersville. James Si Mor- 

Douthit, Lynchburg, Geo, Turner, fVaverlyi 
Henry Randolph, SncJysvilte, Pleasant A. Witt; 
RusselvUle, William MoBee, Old Town free*,' 
A. Burroughs, Monre's X, Roads. James Shelton,' 
Por/ersvi/le- . Shadraoh Mustain, Lewisburg, Na- 
than S. McDowell, Tazewell, Henry Turner, Fay^ 
ettevllle. Isaac Moore, Ripley, James Sallinz. 
BullRun. . . , 

Mississippi. William Huddleston and Ed- 
mund Beeman, Thomaston. Simpson Parks and- 
Samuel Canterherry, Lexington. John Si Daniel. 
Cotton Gin Port. Mark Prewett, Aberdeen. 
Wm. Davis, Houstou. C. Nichols, Stump Bridge; 
Wooten Hill, CooW//e. John Davidson,, Oir 
roll/on. Thomas Mathews, Black Hawk.. 
Lee, Beatie's Bluff. James T. S\ Cock'erham; 
Grub Springs, James Crawley, Minghoma. Jos. 
Edwards, New Albany. Thomas C.Hunt, Me. 
Lend's. John Halbert, Nashville. Wilson Hunt,' 
Stewart's, John Scallorn. Pleasant Mount. John' 
Kinnard, Daley's X Roads. Ki B. Stallines, De- 
kalb. S 

Louisiana. Thos> Paxton, Greensboro*, JasV 
Peikins and Needham Coward, Big wood*. L.' 
G. McGaugh^y, Ballieu's Ferry. Benjamin Gar- 
lington, Ne greet. 

Florida. UartwelT Watkins, Monticello, Lew- 
is Tucker, Campbellton. 

Arkansas. John Hart. Saline. George ,w,' 
Roger*. Arhudtlphia, C. B. Landers, Union fl.H 
J. M. Ci Robertson, Foster's, John Honea, Ozarki 

Missouri. John P. McDow«ll,.iVew Market, 

Illinois. John \lshury. Lick Creek. 

Indiana. wil3on Connar, Cohimbia, 

Ohio. John B. ""itXes, Germanfon,' .. 

Kentucky. Washngton Watts, Co'nelius- 
ville. Levi Lancaster Canton. Skelto'n Renfro, 
Cumberland Ford. Tandy James, Somerset, Isaac 
H orn, Rome. 

Virginia. Rudol phRorer, Berger's Store. Wrr.i' 
w. West, Wkealley William Burns, Davis' 
Mills, Jesse Lankford. Bowers's, A- Rorer. Edge- 
hill Thomas Flippen Laurel Grove. Thomas" 
w Walton, Pleasant Gap. Levi Bishop, Sinclair 1 *' 

Pennsylvania. Joseph Hughes, Gum Tree.' 

NewYork. Gilbert Beebe, New Fernon. 


Joshua Robertson, $1 

Wm. Trice, 5 

gan, Dayton. Rufus Daniel., Jameston, Joel Hi t PI' e 

Chambless, Loweoilte. F. Pickett, China Cfrove, James l erKins, 5 

Mrs. Melinda Ware, 1 
F. Pickett, 5 

John vv. Pellum, Franklin, John Harrell, Mik, 
fob'ri. Wm. Thorrias, Gainer's Store. E. M.A- 
mos, Mididay, Allen Moore, Intercourse, John 
Bryan, Sr. Fulltrsville, Benj. Lloyd, We/umpka. 
N, N.Barmore, Mill Pert, A. Hailey, Pinllula. 
Vincent Williams, Mobile. Young Smith. Eufau- 
la. T.J. Foster, Bell's Landing. Henry Cason, 
Monticello. Henry Petty, Picken-viWe. D. R. 
P. King, PainesviWe, John whitehead, Jr. P/.a- 
tant A\ains. M. W. Helms, Bridgcville. Elly 
Bi Turner, Abbevilte, Townsend, Fork- 
land. Robert Grady, Bluff Port. k. R.Thomp- 
sou, Centreville, James F. Watson, Geneva. 

Tennessbk Michael Burkbalter, Jasper, Wm. 
Cioom, Jadceon, Solomon Ruth, Wesley. Ira E. 

John' Cottin, ${ 
Samuel Tatum, 5' 
Abia Clay, 2 

Jos. D. Biggs'; 26 
Jesse Larimord, 1 

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more so. 

But he (says Jesus) that drinks of the 
water that I shall give him shall never 
thirst; but it shall be in him a well of Wa- 
ter springing up into everlasting life. That 
is, they that drink, the everlasting love of 

A crumb frorri a child to the little chil 

Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith ' God ' which ia stron g as deatn and better 
the Lord. Feed my Iambs, saith Christ, than life, shall never more thirst in their 
Feed the flbck of Christ, saith Paul. sou1s > for return of their former wicked 

You see, little children, from the above, practices. For this water of life, does so 
ehapt. we have the best authority, for offer- completely effect that for the soul, which 
ing you a chimb; of that Which we have ™? soul <M r #? and needs, that it never 
freely had given to us: Time has been can consent, to return again to the weak 
with you; and I that we could live on the and beggarly elements of the world; orasf 
vanities-0f this world; but since we have the sow, to return to wallowing in the mire; 
tasted that the Lord is gracious, we can or as the dog, to return to his vomit. So 
no longer be contented with trash. Our you see, when one of (he chief shepherd's 
souls now thirst; for living water, that if a under shepherd, speaks of the pharisees 
man drink- rife shall no more thirst, but it and hypocrites, he calls them dogs, and 
shall be irrhim a well of water, springing sows ; blU he speaks softly to his little ones, 
up into everlasting life. and calls' them little children and lambs. 

The water of this well as Jesus calls it, Theenemyylittfe children, will tell you, 
is the thihgvve are delighted in, such as fid- that . bfe cause the Sow will return to her 
dling, dancing, sporting, dressing, &c. &c. wallowing in the mire, and the dog to his 
&c; which cah never give durable norper- Vomh again, &*& you may, apostatize and 
feet peace." No, nor could we possess, all lose tbe fav °r of God. But, do you sup- 
of Caesar's' gold, and all of Alexander's P° 3e > tnat Jesu s would call those who are 
fame and" greatness, it would not hinder us bone of his bone - ahd flesb of hi s flesh, and 
from thirsting again. Thirsting for riches members of his body, clogs and hogs? 
again? Thirsting for, more and more, of When W> sa y 8 ^ if y e be ing evil, know how 
the same trash, thinking that if I could at- to g ive g ood g ifts to y° ur children, how 
tain to this or" that I would then be happy, nrdc h more, shall your heavenly Father 
and contented: But when the poor blind give the spirit to them that ask him. Oh, 
sinner, aspires to that pinnacle, or sue- sa y s one liltle cnild > if } knew that I was 
ceeds, ingetting'inlo the possession of the one ofhis children, I could be content; 
object which he has before him, he is just 
•rdry, »s thirsty at h« was before, yea and 

but I have done so bad, and acted so little 
like a heaven-born soul, I fear that I am 


not born again; I fear that I am a dog, or 
a hog; or, I fear thai I have fell from grace 
We will give you a crumb by, explaining, 
the difference, between the washi ig if the 
sow, and washing of the Christian; and 
the vomiting, of the dog, and the vomiting 
of the Christian; and then come to the trial 
ofyour title. 

We loldyou just now, that the enemy, 
used the case of the sow and dog to prove 
the possibility of falling from grace; and 
we told you that we believe, that they 
were comparable to the phansee and hypo- 
crite, and not to the sheep and lamb; and 
you should know, that, the washing of the 
sow, is different to the washing- of the 

We will now hunt for the sow. then for 
the d«>g, and then for the sheep You 
should remember, thai, the swine, is an 
unclean beast; it does not chew the cud' 
nor part the hoof, there fere the Lord*ays, 
ye shall not touch the'ir dead carcases, for 
they are an abomination umo you. 
Though they part the hoof as, doth the 
sheep, yet they don't chew the cud, or can 
th p y, or does the pharisee, chew the cud 
though re parts the hoof; that is, he f arts 
with his outbreaking practices, and con 
forms to a moral life, pta\ s three times a 
day and fast twice a week, and gives 
of all that he ha*. &c. Yet when it comes 
to feeding on the truth as it is revealed in 
the scripture, he fails, and like the sow, 
would rather go o0 into some mire, and 
hunt up the carcass of an old dead cow, or 
horse, or dog, and tear it up and eat it So 
does the hypocrite refuse the doctrine of 
the Bible, and hunt up some old dead com- 
mentary, and feed on it; it is adapted to 
their swinish taste. 

Bui they can't chew the cud. 

Nor feed upon the word of God; 
For the truth has not yet made i hem free, 
And therefore bogs they yet will be. 

They can live on flesh, corn, roots, nuts, 
peas, pumpkins, potatoes, or any thing 
So can the hypocrite and phansee; they 
can live in the temperance society, in the 

Sunday School, in the missionary society, 
or any oilier society or any thing else; 
when the end is not used to maslicale the' 
food. Then, little children, we ihink the 
spirit is the cud, and therefore they that 
have not the ."Spirit of God, are none of his. 
So an the swine was none of Moses's, be- 
cause it did not chew the cud; the hypo- 
crite is none of Christ's because, he does 
not feed upon the word of God. Some- 
times it is \hi case that we see, herds of 
swine, and flocks of sheep, together in old 
fields, and such like places; but if they are 
feeding, you will discover, that the'swine, 
is working, for his living, while the sheep' 
geis his foOd wilh more convenn ncy and 
ease. I he swine Will have their heads 
likely in a deep hole, which they have 
rooted out, for the purpose of gelling 
roots, &c to eat; and sometimes, he wilt 
crop a little grass, when he can get noth- 
ing el.»e;'bul, he is without the cud and 
therefore it rs no nutriment to his nature,"" 
tor it goes through him whole -This be- 
ing the case, he would much rather have a 
slinking carcass, of a dead animal. 

So we sometimes s> e Christians, and 
pharisees. and hspocrites, living in church-" 
es together and one or the other is continu- 
ally suffering; for if the supply, is one that' 
has went to school, and gathered his' 
basket full of roots, and dead flash, he will 
feed the phansee and hypocrite, and the 
little one* don't gel a crumb, and therefore 
they are always bleating; they don't know 
the voice of the under-shepherd, and there- 
fore ihey are always bleating* for they are 
hungry for a crumb. I he preacher aU 
ways says pigue, instead of co sheep, i. e. 
work and live, instead of live and work 
And sometimes, if the Christian remon- 
strates againsi this hireling, he will give 
htm, a few chunks and rocks, such, as to : 
tell him, he is an antinomian, a fatalist, &c. 
Oh, says the poor sheep now, when shall' 
I gel a crumb; for I am starving, for some- 
thing that I can eat. 1 can't eat this rot- 
ten, stinking Arminian, scholastic stuff; 
which this hireling offers me; and if I re- 

ruiMiTivtt BArnsT, 


fuSf it, what shall 1 get but chunks. 

You must know thai all this lime the 
swine is curling his taill and boasting on 
the hireling that brings him this good rot 
ten stuff; but the shrep wants a crumb of the 
heavenly loaf; he wants one to tell him 
what Jesus has done for him in covenant 
along lime ago, while he was in embryo; 
he wanis one to tell him what he has pio 
mised lo do for him in time, and wha' be 
will, bestow upon him freely in a coming 
day, of his own goodness and mercy; he 
wants one to describe his lovely features 
and tell his glowing beauties; he warns one 
that Jesus has taughi the secret of re^emp 
tion and the mysiery of g&dlmese in hush 
cohege, between his plow handles Yes, 
one thai has been taught of the spirit, and 
he care* nothing lor ornaments anil flowers. 

Then if in compliance with his wants, 
the Lord sends him such an one, the swine 
will raise their bristle* ai him, the oh) 
boars will whet up their tushes, and ihe 
old sow Will huddle up her ptg s , and the 
swine feeder will gather up his basket of 
rocks, and bundle of roots, and begin, so 
■core ihe poor pieacher, with — you ant i- 
nomian, you hard shell, you steel jncUet, 
you calvjnistic wretch . And all his swine 
family will simile, and some will be so 
much gratified, that they will laugh iigi>l 
out; but Jesus says, wo unto them that 
laugh now, lor they shall mourn and weep. 

But no odds, the good .Nhephtrd has sent 
his sheep an under shepherd, and this un- 
der shepherd, says, co-sneep, poor little 
lambs, how come you so poor ; and to the 
old sheep, how come you so < losely shear- 
ed; to which the lambs say, the swine feed 
er, the hireling, has been chunking me to 
death, because 1 could not nor would not 
eat his rotten stuff; and tie would give me 
no milk, nor no herbs, nor even no corn; 
and 1 have got §o poor that 1 can haid.y go. 
Then the honest shepherd, puts his hand 
unto his treasure, and says, my masier 
who gave me this vessel and ft. led it full lor 
me, sa) s, freely ye have received, freely 
give 1'hcu he pull* out of ill* vta>»U thi* 

crumb: My sheep know my voice, and 
they follow me. and 1 give unto them eter- 
nal life, and they shall never perish.. 

Then the poor little perished lamb 
knows the shepherd's voice, it is the voice 
of grace and he eats the crumb; and by the 
agency of the spirit (ihe cud) he has the 
nutriment conveyed to his soul, and by 
and by he gels strong enough to bleat, and 
he turns his perishing eyes to 'he shepherd, 
and asks him for another crumb. He then 
gives himthe nuriuralizingcrumbof prom- 
ise: All that mv Faihef gave to me shall 
come to me. From this the old sheep 
heai the Voice ioo, and they know it; thee 
the old sheep and lambs all huddle up to- 
gether, and all eat together, and the under 
shepherd is quiie familiar with them. He 
then begins to try to cure the broken le^s 
of the Utile tender lambs and heal their 
wounds; he applies the balm of consolation, 
yea be lakes them in his arms, ami wrasiies 
them, fur they have been lying among Ihe 
Arminian pots, Until they are quite sulti-h, 
and was it mn lor their bleat, the shepherd 
could hardly tell whether they were hogs, 
dogs, sin ep, or goats. 

He then interrogates the old sheep upon 
their having been so closely sheared, upon 
which they tell him, that ihe swine feeder, 
the hireling, or (said he) robber, if you 
please, canie amongst us, and he clipped 
part of my wool wiih his shears, and where 
you see the skin is off, he threw chunks at 
me, and rocks, and almost killed me with 
his stinking Arminian stuff. And >o you 
see by my wool's being gone, and my food 
withheld, 1 have become poor and sickly; 
so much so, that it will take light diet lo 
reciuit me; for 1 have not strength enough 
to crack ihe old haul corn of Canaan 

Daring the lime of this conversation, the 
swine feeder, or hireling, is strutting, foa- 
ming, and splashing, and chunking the un- 
der shepherd^ and the old sow and her 
pigs, and the old boars and barrows all 
have their brisiles up, because the children 
aie about to gel a crumb, and iheir craft is 
about to be exposed. But the honest un- 



der shepherd ear** nothing for them all; that has any Jife in if. And though they 
beholds last to sound words; arid how and -are so fat and gay, they have no life in 
then he gives the hireling a jalt under the ■ them, they are dead, and their food is dead, 
short ribs with, Wo be unto you, scribes | an d they never will be any thing else than 
and pharisees, and hypocrites; ye shut up dead swine. 

the kingdom of heaven, ye neither enter Ihey all get wrathy again, and makean- 
yoursalves, and them that would, ye bin- other charge at the under shepherd. The 
" er,: old sheep tell him to take care, they will 

Upon this the whole swine family raise hurt him; (f. e. the swine injure his moral 
their bristles, and begin to whet their lush- character by telling Scartdalotis lies upon 
es at the good tinder shepherd; arid they j him.) Upon which the under shepherd 
are so mad at him, that their eyes turn j tells them, that he is truly sorry that they 
fairly greer*. Now the under shepherd have lost the word of command and be- 
commences conversation with the sheep ! come cewardly; and he adds, fear them 

and lambs altogether; says! he. it is contra- 
ry to the order of our chief shepherd and 
bishop of our souls, for you to be thus situ- 
ated. How, said they? Why for you to 
be living, in a fold, amalgamated with 
hogs. Upon this one old sheep responded, 
that he had long since told them that they 
were doing wrong; for I told them, added 
he, that our great shepherd had sard, Be ye 
separate. And they would have believed 
itte, in my construction, had it not have 
been for the swine feeder, who said it did 
not mean what I said it did at all,* that it 
had nc^allusion te sheep & swine living to- 
gether; and besides, added the old sheep, 
he told me I was too busy and forward any 
how, and was always dabbling where 1 had 
lio business. And the swine all said, A- 
men. And the rest of my brethren said 
nothing, for they were all under the cow, 

not. Then the children get another crumb,' 
and they begin to look refreshed very 
much. The good under shepherd theh 1 
commences a general conversation with* 
them ail. Said he, I want to ask you sun- 
dry questions which I want you to answer 
me fairly and faithfully ; and they promis- 
ed they wouldy but agreed that the old ; 
sheep, that had somewhat instructed them 
against the legitimacy of their living in 1 
their present situation should be spokesman* 
for them all,* for they then perceived that; 
if they had taken his advice, that they 
would not have been entangled again with/ 
the yoke of bondage; but they would have' 
been in a thriving condition, and had all 
their wool, and would have been living in 
harmony and unanimity. 

Well, said the good under shepherd, the' 
chief shepherd and bishop hath sent me 

and I had received so many wounds fiom hither as his under shepherd, to give you a 
the hard hearted deceivers, that 1 dreaded crumb to raise you up, so that you can bear 

each succeeding blow. 

Surely, said the under shepherd, you ac- 

the march onward to your heavenly inheri- 
tance; and as 1 must act according to the 

ted right in that particular; for, the chief i statute, and not violate one command of my 

shepherd say, in addition to what you 
told the brethren, to ( QME OUT OF 
HER, MY PKOPLE. which alludes to 
this same sow, that the apostle says will re- 
turn to her wallowing in the mire again, 
and, which John calls the mother of har- 
lots and abomination of the earth. And 
although she and her pigs look so fat and 
•lick, they have got it all from dead food; 
they never have ate or drank any thing 

master, I want to know upon what grounds,, 
or terms, you became to be in this situa- 
tion, so that 1 may commence in a lawful* 
way to lead you from hence. Therefore 
tell me, said he, how you tirsl became to be 
in this state of disorder, defiling yourself 
with swine flesh, and drinking the broth of 
abominable things. The old sheep then- 
informed him that if he would give atten- 
tion he would answer his question to the 



Jbest of his recollection. 

Said he, some twenty or thirty years 
ago, we were living here alone; there 
were but few of us. and we were irul) 
lonesome; there w,ere but two or three of 
■us in this wall or pasture, but we had all 
peace, and this old sow, was then a pig and 
looked very inoffensive and harmless. She 
was continually coming to our bars, and 
begging us for entrance, and we refused. 
She said she was a sheep, that she was just 
as we were, that she believed in the doc- 
trine of grace, and of election by grace. &c. 
Well I told my brethren that I did not like 
her looks nor her voice. I told them 1 
ihought, she was hairy, and looked too 
flirty She overheard me 1 suppose, and 
v\ent and washed and ornamented herself, 
and carn.e and put one of her feet on the 
bars, and said .she wanted to live with us 
because we were all brethren And if we 
refused her membership she would sue us, 
for violating the constitution, which made 
provision for the reception of all such. 

Upon this some of my younger brethren 
became alarmed and overcome by her good 
words — they said, Jet down the bars; J 
said, don't be loo hasty. They said she 
was a sheep, for there was her foot just like 
purs, (shod with the preparation of the gos- 
pel of peace ) 1 said they looked too 
sharp. She said no wonder, when she had 
stood round the fold, and pawed the bars 
*o much. J told her to let me hear her 
bleat. She did so, but 1 told them I 
thought it was between a bleat and a grunt; 
however, she had beard ua bleat no much, 
that she imitated us very much; but as juat 
remarked, 1 thought it was half work and 
half grace. However by her begging and 
teasing us so much, we let down the bars 
and in she hopped, and she had but just 
cleared the bars when 1 heard her grunt 
very swinish, (works, life by the law;) 
though she grazed with us very agreea- 
bly for a t^rne, upon which she began to get 
very poor. Upon this I wondered at see- 
ing one that was a sheep, look so ill thriven 
upon our green pastures But by and by 

»he hegiri to mend up finelv, nnd curl her 


So her I wo Mered .igiin, but soon al- 
ter that 1 spied her with her head down in 
a deep hole arid she was very dirty, so I 
asked her what shp meant by 'hat mode of 
business? Sliesaid she working for 
her living. 1 to d her that was a strange 
way for one of our family to live. She 
said if ghe lived and did well, what's the 
difference, you can but live} and if I work 
for my living, said she, and get it out of 
the ground a. id live by it, it should cause 
no difficulty. I choose thjs way and you, 
have the liberty to act as you choose. 
Well to my human understanding, this 
seemed very reasonable, but 1 waa not sat- 
isfied; I could think of nothing but hog, 
swine, sow, from day to day, for I saw she 
was different from any of the gang, in ma- 
ny respects. One of her peculiarities wag, 
that when we would retire from the pas- 
ture in the heal ol the day, she would go 
to the river and there she would grunt, and 
tumble, ;md root in the mud; and thinks I 
to myself, a curious sheep indeed, you are 
one of a different family forsooth. 

But 1 was afraid of doing wrong, go by 
the persuasion of my younger brethren 1 
agreed to be at peace. Though by and by 
I discovered, she was dirtying our gate 
posts, and bending them down; for as soon 
as she was done wallowing in the mire, 
she would resort to the gate or bars, when 
she came in, as hogs commonly do, and 
would rub off her filth to my great dissat- 
isfaction. So one day as we were cooling 
under our shades in (he is as the shadow 
of a great rock in a weary land) the heat 
of the day, there came to the gale whilst 
she was rubbing, one of her kin of the mas- 
culine gender, and asked her for entrance; 
and she let him in unbeknown to any of 
us, and by and by I discovered an increase 
in the swine family. The masculine had 
long tushes, and vexed me very often, by 
biting the Utile lambs; but as for myself, I 
did not value her personal attacks. 

Stj whe» the inortsf • af the tvr'tne fao*>- 


primitive feArrmr 

]y was manifest, ! discovered a legion of 
little, young swine. Well, said "I, yon 
are a different generation to ours, for w 
never increase so fast; if we increase one 
or two at a time, we are doing well; bin 
you have many (protracted meetings ) 
So I declared and avowed again a id again 
to my family (the church) that thev were 
another stock; they said probably not. let 
us hold on a little and see. I told them 
they bred so fast that they wouM soon out 
number us, and take possession of our pa'- 
tore (church rites,) and cause us gnat dis- 
tress'. I discovered too that little p'gs 
shoal-, old male and female would wallow 
in the mne, and bed. nib our walls, and pis 
lures with their filth; so that the Utile 
lambs in wallowing and renting, looked 
sometimes, nearly like little swine. This 
grieved me to the heart, for 1 knew th 
good shepherd had directed, our family in 
Ue^p themselves un-pot'^d from the world 
So I began to murmur, and looked quite 
sulky at tb^m; and thev would bristle up 
to me, and call me anti, yes antinomian, 
ami missionary ; and the old male would 
go so far as to call me antichri-fian, for be 
ing so n'ce about the*" things. I told him 
1 waVconomanded to work by Hie rule of 
my chief shepherd, who w a- wis- r tha i i h- 
wi-eM, and better than the best, (do all 
things alter the pattern) 

Ah, they said, Ove need not be so partic- 
ular, flVit our shepherd did not intend to 
bind n« down entirely to that rule, ('be 
scfip'ture ) I told ihem he did, and had 
pronounced aeurse upon any that' would be 
so assuming as to add an j thing to his wri- 
ten code,' or diminish th-refo n! I'he\ 
appeared lo treat my assertion with indil 
ference, and even contempt. 

So while we weie thus quarrelling, I 
heard a dog, or 1 thought it was a wolf. 
and so I suppose both names are appropri- 
ate to him. Upon this the little ones b - 
gan to run and bleat, and I felt strange my- 
self at hearing such a strange voice so near: 
though I picked up courage lo bid then 
stand fast in the liberty wherewith Chrisi 

had rmde them frep. So this greedy dog 
began lo b n k and howj, like he was -e^ k- 
uig a prey. The swine famih went giunt- 
ing carelessly up to the bars, and ours stood 
a' a di-tance So th, • old sow asked liim 
what he would have, and he said he was 
hunting sheep; and he discovered a fine 
flock there, and for her to lei him in, (ine 
wolf comeih not but to kill and devour.) 
Upon this the old male, said surelv (lei us 
idle a collegiate.) f he wolf being so ea- 
g'T to gel io the sheep, and the swine so 
eager for him to devour them, that their 
h'gte caused them to t> ar down the bats, 
and in came the ferocious devourer with 
his high pead looking fierce and craliy. 
And with him he brought a train of dam- 
nable heresies, and about the fir-t hovv| 
was life by the law, do and live; upon this 
the "wine family all grunted their amen. 
The sheep began to mourn. The nt xt 
howl was, protracted meeting. 1 stagger- 
ed up and isk I them whu this was for; 
they said, io make mote sheep, (iood 
Lord, said I, a wolf and swine gender * 
sheep. The swine said yes, and the dog 
said yes I, this is a strange law of 
natuie to me. Said they, you are an igno- 
rant creature any hq«, no wonder 
things surprise von; ii most be a' t> ibuted 
to your ignorance. ' Said they, we'll show 
\ ou now thai we can do so 

So on comes the protracted meeting* 
more wolves come over lo the howl ol the 
id leader They all howl, works, work*, 
do and live, come to the mourner's bench 
and bow. I |ere they come b\ scores, and 
bow. and howl, and yell, and yell, and 
squeal, and grunt, and such another swine 
and dog meeting w is in vi r belort heard in 
a Baptist church. So out comes a host of, 
you g ones, (professors.) there, there, say 
they, look at the great good of our protrac- 
ted meeting. Said I, it j's pig; they say, 
no more bigotry, more ignorance Said I, 
it grnnis works, works, do ami live, &c. 
So if the Lord during this lime brings in 
one of his, ihev say, ah ha, see lhat, is not 
that sheep? Said I, yes, but you are not 



*hf» father of it, it bleats — hear it — it say?, 
grace, free grace. 1 told ihem that was 
one of my family; they said, their effort 
had done it. I said no. And so they con- 
tended and contended, but this little one 
would not grunt, nor bark, nor howl; and 
it chewed the cud and parted the hoof loo, 
and bore wool there. 

The next howl the wolf brought, was 
jtemperance society. I opposed this. He 
abused me for it, and said I was a diunk- 
aid, a friend of publicans and sinners I 
£old him I was no drunkard, but that my 
chief shepherd had said, every creature of 
jUod is good to be received with thanksgi- 
ving; and that 1 thought the church was a 
good temperance society when properly 
disciplined. He seemed to pity me for 
my ignorance, and tojd the test of the 
.swine and dog family, that they ought to 
be charitable to me and attribute it to my 
ignorance. I hey agreed to do so, but 1 
knew it was only from their lips while 
fhey inwardly haled me. 

The next howl, was Sunday school; the 
next, was Bible and iracl society; the next, 
missionary society; the next, theological 
school, (lood Lord, said 1, they are tear 
ing down our wall, and jetting every thing 
in the pasture. So our house was made a 
house of merchandise, and a den of thieves 

So I began Id look around me, and I dis- 
covered our pasture was ruined The old 
sow and her family, had rooted up our 
grass, (rooted out the true meaning of scrip- 
ture.) The dogs had vomited all over the 
same, and the poor little tender lambs, 
could find no clean place to put their feel, 
and no good ntirturalizing pasturage, and 
our house was convened into a work shop 
for tl>e wicked one. 'he old laws of God 
repealed or abrogated at theological schooK 
and the resujt hailed in every church; 
great things are going on, we'll soon con- 
vert the world. All of this was truly 
something new to me, and I discovered 
these greedy dogs could never get wool 
enough; and so you see by their begging 
§nd chunking, biting and devouring, we 

have all gotten poor while they are rich 
and fat. 

Well, said the honest under shepherd, I 
discover the cause of your affliction; you 
have acted very wickedly, and your Fa- 
ther hath visited your iniquity with stripes 
and your transgressions with the rod, &c. 
I say you acted very wickedly in letting 
the o|d sow in at the bars, when she was a 
little pig: if you had have went to repair- 
ing your bars, instead of letting them down 
for her, vou would have had all ihe prom- 
ise of your king to the obedient; but as it 
is, you have to suffer loss for your disobe- 
dience; but remember henceforth, that to 
obey is better than sacrifice; and to harken, 
than the fat of rams. 1 know it is often 
the case, that pride, lust and Ihe devil, will 
tempt good Christians lo believe, that some 
other way vvi 1 answer, for the government 
of ihe church, than that which he hath re- 
vealed in the sciipture: but when we at- 
tempt a \iolation, we should remember 
Vashti, the Queen, what loss she suffered 
for disregarding the mandate of the King 
Ahasuerus ">he thought probably it would 
be no great harm to, disregard his orders 
in so small a matter as that; but the exam- 
ple would probably have been followed by 
all the women in the kingdom, so that soon 
it would have been the case, thai women 
would have had the ryie of their husband's 
houses; and, the families would have been 
brought lo vass dage, by having to submit 
to the rule of an ignorant woman, who 
knew nothing of government. And so it 
will be, whenever the church leaves the 
pattern revealed in the scripture; she is 
then presumptuous and self willed, not 
willing to be controlled bv her husband, 
and she says in her actions, as she said re- 
lative to Jesus when he was here, we will 
not have 1 his man to rule over ii9. 

Says the old sheep I told them all this, 
but they seemed to monk me rather than 
regard me. 1 told them what this sow and 
her family would do when they got a suffi- 
ciency of power. I told them she would 
remove the landmarks, and change the 



truth of God into a lie; md the sheep 
would have given me more attention than 
.they did, because that I was the eldest, but 
the swine would contradict me, and tell 
the rest of the family, that they had no in- 
tention of altering the rule of the house, or 
of altering the landmarks, or of changing 
the truth of God into a lie, I asked them 
if they did not believe, that in their estab- 
lishing those societies in the churches, that 
they were adding or altering. Upon this 
they sneered and hooted at me; some 
would deceptively laugh at me, and some 
would deride me, and some vyould chunk 
me, and some backbite me, and some tell 
lies on me, and some would say it would be 
God service \o put such a pestilent fellow 
out of the way. Some would pity me for 
my ignoranee, some would cajl me cove- 
tou", some would call me iron j.ieke', some 
would call me aniinumian, some hard shell, 
some antimissionary. | t"jd them to call 
me what they pleased, but one thing 1 
knew and that was, that strange sounds had 
gotten amongst us, and the grunting of 
swine, and howling of wolves, was a 
strange thing in a eheepfold, and I wffs dis- 
satisfied at the arrangement. They said, 
for me to attend to my own business, and I 
might enjoy my eovetous principles if 1 
chose, but let them a|one in their benevo- 
lent efforts; if 1 had nol a miud to give, let 
others do as they choose. 

Well, I knevy no better than !o accede 
to this proposition as 'wo weie then situa- 
ted, for we had let her, in as a pig peacea- 
bly, and we had no right to linn her out 
when she got to be a sow. So I conclu- 
ded, iva would just have to groan tinder 
the hog constitutions and law* of heretics, 
until we died, fori diseoveied that by 
their good words and fair speeches, they 
had deceived the hearts of the simple sheep 
and I seemed to be all alone. 

Under shepherd. How did thf>y man- 
age te deceive the hearts of the simple 

Old sheep. Why many ways. They 
said the apos>llw were missionaries, and the 

Saviour was a missionary. \ told them no, 
but prove it They said they could do so 
verv easy. So one would talk a while 
and the other a while, and one would tell 
how Paul went to sue)) a place and preach- 
ed; and another would tell ajb.out Peter'* 
mission to such a place; and another, about 
John's mission, and so forth; and one 
would tell about Christ's mjssion. Well, 
they made every thing look plausible to 
the unlearned, but did not give satisfaction 
to me. So I asked them to tel) me if 
Christ and his cotemporarjes were mission- 
aries, why we never have the example by 
them, as practiced by them. I told them i 
never read of tne word missionary |n the 
scriptures as being applied to ariy person 
or seel. I told them | never heard 'of any 
of these societies in the scriptures, and that 
when Jesus sent his apoa'tes, he never told 
them to beg a purse, nor beg for shoes, nor 
for eoats, nor rags, nor stqckjngs, as they 
do. So t thought if Jesus and his apo»: 
ties were missionaries, they were different 
from those. 

I also tojd them I never read of oi^e of 
those going to aehool to learn how Jq 
preach, nor did I ever hear of one of them, 
demanding of a church a stipulated salary 
before-thev wuuld preach. Ftiey argued, 
wiih me that the 'world had changed con- 
siderably, that a, great improvement had, 
taken place in the human family, and peo- 
ple were much more refined than they used 
to be. 1 told them 1 thought that a bad 
sign, for if an improvement was manifest i*. 
was ihai the proud hearts had bt en better. 
cultivated, and Hie world was more tasty 
than they used to be, in the objects that are 
congenial with the pride of the eye, the 
pride of life and lust of the flush, 

Upon this some sajd if I had my desert* 
my mouth should be broke, and no doubt, 
but what ihey would have dene it, if it had 
not -have been contrary to sheep customs; 
and they were sort of transformed, and 
they knew if ihey liad have resorted to 
such measures as this, it would be manifest 
that they vvpra swine} for you, i|»ust know 



,tyiey wanted the name of sheep, to take 
away their reproach amongst shjeep, he 
cause the term was honorable and famed. 

Now, under phepherd, said the old sheep, 
1 have answered your first question, in 

part, and ' wan * Y ou J J n 9 lruc ^ m < e now 
we may rid us of these people by whom 
we are oppressed, and have been these sev- 
eral year?. 

Under shepherd. There is no way for 
you to turn them out now upon legitimate 
t,erms, for you let them into your pastures, 
or you let in the pig, and the pig got to be 
a row and she let in the male, and the fa- 
mily let in the greedy dog, and so ypu are 
the aggressor in this matter; for the good 
ahepher who gave ypu your orders, knew 
t^iil a dog would bark and hogs would 
grunt, and that their natures were swinish 
apd dogj>h, and that they would get into 
any mischief they could. But ypu had an- 
other nature, and better things were ex- 
peeted of you, (eyps and see.) than to re- 
ceive into your fellowship an unclean 

hogs that have spoiled your pasturage. 
But there is a way by which you may be 
separated from them. 

Old sheep. Pray, under shepherd, tell 
us that way for. 1 am anxious to get out pf 
the noise and smell of this stinking kine. 

Under shepherd. As ypu have judi- 
ciously remarked, there is no way by 
which you can according to the canon get 
rid of ,them, by excluding them; for you 
let them in, in peace, and they have made a 
complete change in every thing. So now 
you must leave them. 

Upon this, under shepherd lifted up his 
voice like a trumpet, and said, in the name 
apd under the command and direction of 
chief shepherd and bishop of our souls, 
At this soupd ? the old sheep bleated loud 
and strong, and said, 1 know my shep- 
herd's voice Then the little lambs began 
to rise and their lifle fainting bleats were 
heaid all over the wasted pasture, the bells 
began to ring, the sheep began to huddle 

kjpe; and therefore ft is right for you to be together and march to the pnder shepherd' 

afflicted for your wreng as you have been, 
to teach you the propriety of Je^tjng God 
be true and every man a liar. Ami you 
pught to have known when this little pig 
looked so innocent, and talked so kind and 
begged so hard for entrance, that it wpuld 
grow to be a sow, apd increase, and spoil 
your pasturage with her pnc'ean brood, 
(the carnal mind is enmity to God.) 

Old sheep. I knew that, under shep- 
herd, as well as jou; but it is too late, and 
as | told you belure, if the younger por- 
tion ot the flock had have went with me. I 
would never have let her in. B"t W P can't 
help jt now, we are in a starving condi- 
tion, and if you know of apy way jhai will 
epmpprt with justipe by which we ma}' get 
rid of these kine, we pray you lo suggest it 
and we will act by your direction 

Under shepherd. I ha\ e no directions, 
J am an under shepherd and have to go by 
the order of the chief shepherd; and if 1 
were to pi escribe a way not known in his 

voice. (Remainder next A'o.) 


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Tyrrell county, Gum Neck, ) 
February, 19, 1847. S 

Very dear Brethrkisj: Jt is through 
the kind and protecting care of an all-wise 
God, that my life is yet spared and my 
family with me. I haye suffered a great 
deal of affliction for the last year, yet I der 
sire to be thankful, for I believe the blessr 
ed Lord works all things after the counsel 
of his pwn will. And I dare not say, why 
doest thou? for he that knows his master's 
will and does it not, shall be beaten with 
many stripes. 

Brethren, I know I have neglected my 
duty in many cases, still the blessed Lord 
]jas been mindful of me, notwithstanding 

my shortcomings before him in a dis- 
£»pon, 1 would be similar to those dogs and charge of my duty. And I now think py 



life will be spared to see an ingathering of 
jthe Lord's people, for when I was confin- 
ed to my bed the blessed Lord did not 
forsake me; he visited me there and show- 
ed me a vast crowd of people, nearly all 
of them had their backs on the Lord and 
were marching the downward road to eter- 
nal ruin; and that he, the Lord, had a peo- 
ple among them which must be called and 
instructed. There was a small part of that 
work I had to do, and I groaned within 
myself for my situation, the task was so 
great. And the blessed Lord showed me 
a mighty man, filled with the Holy Ghost, 
and with power from on high, who was 
already in the field who would meet me 
almost at the beginning and accomplish 
the mighty work. 

Brethren Editors, when viewing the 
plan and the scheme of redemption, that 
was fixt in eternity before Adam's dust 
was fashioned to a man, and then made 
manifest in these latter times through the 
death an(^ resurrection of his dear Son, to 
accomplish that plan whereby poor sinners 
can be saved; and then receiving the per- 
fect obedience required of his children in 
a discharge of their duty, I am ofttimes 
Jed to believe that I am not one, for it is 
with reluctance when I attempt to speak 
or to write on the goodness and mercy of 
God, for fear I should wound that precious 
cause which saved my poor soul from eter- 
nal ruin. And my very soul's desire and 
prayer to Almighty God this night, while 
writing is, that I could live nearer up to a 
discharge of my duty, that I could love 
him more and serve him better. 

My precious brethren and sisters in the 
Lord, pray for me that my faith fail not. 
And oh, my precious brethren every 
where, when you come lo reflect on the 
day, the hour, or the time, or the place, 
that the blessed Lord spoke peace to your 
poor sin-sick souls, was not )'Our hearts at 
that time all praise and prayer? Methinks 
I hear you say, it was; well, why have so 
many forgotten the fruits of that good 
spirit? Call your little families around 
you, and hold them up in your prayers be- 
fore God, that he would do for them as he 

has done for you; for I believe the prayers 
and intercessions of the parents are often 
visited upon their children, when their re- 
mains, are mingled in the dust. 

Brethren, there is but a little handful of 
us here in Gum Neck church; but thanks 
be to the blessed Lord, we are in peace 
and love one with another. 

Brethren Editors, I here enclose you 
five dollars, for the last yesr's paper, please 
to excuse my neglect, as you can see I am 
neglectful in more weightier matters. Your 
paper gives me great satisfaction to read 
it, it is a good lesson where, there is bu£ 
little preaching. Yours in Christ, I hope.. 



From the Ministers and Messengers com : 
posing the Bear Creek Primitive Bap : 
list Association, met at Jerusalem church ? 
Anson county, N. C, on Saturday be- 
fore the fourth Lord's Day in Sept., 

Beloved Brethren and Sisters: 
It seems that nothing could be more appro- 
priate to the condition of the Churches 
than Christian duty, if we should be suc- 
cessful in illustrating the subject consistent 
with the precepts and examples of the Gos- 
pel, which we wish to do in love. And as 
the under shepherds occupy a principal 
station in the Church, we commence with 
them, believing that the Lord has not re- 
sorted to any new method, neither in the 
I conversion of sinners, nor supplying the 
pulpit — for our Saviour laid the foundation 
I of the Christian religion in his life and fin- 
' ished it in his death, and rose triumphant 
over the grave, and gave gilts unto men, 
and left the promise of sending his Holy 
Spirit for the purpose of guiding his chil- 
dren into all truth, which we believe has 
been done. For notwithstanding the rage 
of persecution in the days of the Apostles, 
and under the reign of the Pope for sever- 
al hundred years, Christ's glorious gospel 
has been preached, and his militant king- 
dom established. And as he did sustain 



his holy religion through all those perilous 
times, independent of theological institu- 
tions, we think we may venture to trust 
him to the end of time. Though the Gos- 
pel preachers in the present age arc (liter- 
ally speaking) more highly fa\ored, as 
they are not compelled to flee from city 
to city, to escape the oppressive hand of 
tyrants, but are privileged with the enjoy- 
ment of domestic life, and the comfort of 
their families, which most of them have, 
with their field of ministerial labor allotted 
them by the great Shepherd of the sheep, 
and not by men — and thus they preach 
the Gospel from Sabbath to Sabbath, as 
did the Apostles — and when opportunity 
is afforded, they think it no dishonor to la- 
bor with their own hands for the relief of 
their several charges, still following the 
apostolic example. Indeed, such as are 
unwilling to partake of the hardships of 
domestic" life, might lie induced to take the 
oversight of the flock for fij thy lucre. 
Moreover, idleness connected with covet- 
ousness, will lead to wickedness — yes, spi- 
ritual wickedness in high places. But 
these terrifying evils are not so dangerous 
in the persons of the ignorant and illiterate. 
Though we have but little to say of litera- 
ture, of course It could do no injury unless 
improperly used. Yet it is not uncommon 
for professional men of learning to expect 
a living from the sweat of the laboring 
men, and it would be less exceptionable in 
any other cjags than that of the clergy. 
But if this is oppressive in the United 
States, it is as yet in such a mild form that 
it is scarcely perceptible, though in Enp- 
lane), our mother country, quite a fair sam- 
ple of this oppression might be had, where 
jhe learned clergy, (as it seems.) with a 
seared conscience, is lawfully allowed the 
tenth part of the scanty remains of the 
poor laboring tenant. So much for theo- 
logical schools. 

But our business, at present, is chiefly 
with the God-called ministers, whose duty 
it is, as much as possible, to make the Gos- 
pel without charge, and in every respect 
to prove as examples to the flock, by en- 
dearoring to imitate the beautiful descrip- 

, tion given of such by St. Paul to Timothy, 
'as follows: "A Bishop, then, must be 
blameless, the husband of one wife; vigi- 
lant, sober, of good behaviour; given to 
hospitality; apt to teach; not given to wine; 
. no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre, but 
i patient; not a brawler; not covetous; one 
I that ruleth well his own house, having his 
j children in subjection, with all gravity; 
I not a novice, and of good report of them 
that are without." This is not only de- 
scriptive of the ministers of Christ, but a 
solemn charge, and should not be lightly 
esteemed by those that serve to the laying 
on of hands, least they should do it sudden- 
ly. For, if we understand the apostle, the 
above qualification must, in a greater or 
less degree, be attached to the subject for 
ordination. This being the case, the ser- 
vant of the Lord is prepared for his minis- 
terial race which he runs, but not uncer- 
tainly, i. e. not first on one track and then 
on another; and in using the weapons of his 
warfare, is cautious least he should be one 
of those that beat the air; and above all, 
his delight is to feed the flock of God which 
Christ purchased with his own blood. 
This he does willingly — not of constraint, 
nor vet for filthy lucre, but of a ready 
mind. And for a more full description of 
a Gospel minister and his duty, search the 
Scriptures, with which we turn to our 
brethren in general. 

Beloved in the Lord! Christian duties 
are pleasant to the believer when attended 
to; but if neglected, are productive of a 
train of evils which our small space forbids 
us to enumerate. But the wise man fore- 
seeth the evil, and hideth himself. And 
among the many duties which the Chris- 
tian affectionately discharges, those to 
their ministers should share an equal por- 
tion of esteem; for notwithstanding the in- 
dustry and good economy which ought to 
be attached to every Gospel minister, 
from the loss of lime, there is an increase 
of burthen experienced by himself and, 
family. But those personal disadvantages 
will not tend in the least to diminish from 
the building of God; but to disregard his 
precepts and Gospel examples, would do- 



prive the Christian of an essential evidence ! own inattention. And how to account foF 

of his inheritance above. And, as touch- .Christian living in the resistance of known 

ing our duty to the ministers of Christ, wejduties, we know not; for faith without 

find chiefly in the Epistles of St. Paul, and , works is dead, being alone: ind it is by 

he treated on this subject very cautiously, j works that faith is made perfect. And as 

knowing as he said, "that after my depar- the Scriptures are our acknovyledged rule 

jture, grievous wolves will enter in, not of faith and practice, in justification of our 

sparing the flock." And in like manner, preceding remarks, we quote the following 

>ve cautiously lay hold of this subject, and from St. Paul: "Who goetb a warfare at 

should there be an omission of any duty i any time at his own charges? Who plant- 

among Christians, the mere deficiency arj- 1 eth a vineyard and eateth not of the fruit 

sing from it is not a matter of so much ; thereof? Or who feedeth a flock and eat- 

concern, as the principle which has pro- eth not ofthemilkof the flock?" &c. — r 

duced such negligence among the follow- with which we might conclude this im- 

ers pfGhrist; but whether or not there is perfect epistle: but supposing there might 

any deficiency among the Primitive Bap- : be some inquiry how this duty to our min.r 

tists on the subject of duty to their minis- [ ister should be discharged— whether in 

ters, is known to each individual, provided \ private or in public? To which we reply, 

they have searched the word of the Lord, that no one should be ashamed of the pre? 

with the necessary inquiry, "What wilt I cepts and examples of the Gqspel. In 

thou have me do?" With such, the word giving, it is said we should not let our left 

pf our Saviour is familiar, which says, "the , hand know what the right hand doeth. 

fvorkman is worthy of his meat." j But this, we hardly think would apply to 

And could he have meant that his the preacher. We have already said that 

preachers should be fed upon the good ministers could not be considered as subr 

t hings pf this life, and their families left as jectspf charity, and in this case we might 

jvidpws and orphans, and perhaps in a mel- act in public, that our good example might 

anchply condition, anxious for the return be extended to our younger brethren, but 

pfhimto whom they daily look for relief? never to sound our good works as with a 

And can it be possible that any reflecting trumpet, and those that feel disposed to 

Christian, in easy circumstances, could re- contribute to the support of the ministry, 

ceivethe repeated services of their preach- ! can do it by subscription or otherwise, as 

er without compensating his destitute they may think proper. And after we 

family? and whether destitute or not, it is have done all that we can, without charity 

a compensation of reward, as the ministers it profiteth nothing, for christian duties do 

p.f the Gospel cannot be considered as sub- not make a christian, they are only the ef- 

jects pf charity, butsheuld be esteemed for fects of being one; but it is grace that stays 

their wprk's sake. And if we esteem the hand from oppression, the tongue from 

them, how shall we manifest it — by words falsehood and ^lander, the affections from 

pr by deeds? This can be answered by fraud and dishonest gain, and affords a will 

those that have been spiritually taught to to do unto others as we would they should 

understand and observe the golden rule, dp unto us; and a Church made up with 

But if self is not denied, it may discover j materials thus qualified, may well be said 

many obstacles in the way, expecting to ; to be as a city set on a hill which cannot 

attend tp those Christian duties at some 
distant period of life, until our aged minis- 
ters are worn down in the service of the 
Churches and their families may be happi- 
ly removed to the enjoyment of a better 
inheritance, leaving those that could have 
alleviated their necessities to regret their 

be hid. 

And, dear brethren, that you may be 
able to stand and combat with the vanities 
of a deluded world, put on the whole ar- 
mor of God, and endeavor to know what 
is His will concerning you here, and "see 
that you refuse not him that speaketh." 



We have qv?te13 Scripture without citing 
the places, for the saving of space, as our 
letter is lengthy. Now may the grace of 
God abound in you, to the keeping of the 
tfnity of the spirit in the bond of peace. 
Finally, Brethren, farewell. 

GEORGE LITTLE, Moderator. 
Gary Tolson, Clerk. 


Pittsylvania county, Va. ) 
Junuiry 22nd, IS47 > 

Bear p/ei/oved Brethren: I Write io 
you not' because you don't know, but be- 
cause I hope you do know and will bear 
witness to the truth of what I may write, 
if I am enabled to 1 understand the truth; 
and I pray God to give me the understan- 
ding of the truth, and to enable me to write 
the same. 

Now, brethren, you know i have tried 
several limes in my feeble and weak man- 
ner to show how God by the Holy Ghost 
did and does quicken dead sinners to Irfe. 
This is only effected by the power of God 
fhroug-h the office work of the Spirit. 
hence the quickening and regenerating 
power is only in God, and that according 
to his purpose and will; for God's purpose 
never did work against his will, so the sal- 
vation of the soul depends alone on the 
power, purpose and will of God. And 
God's power always has been engaged to 
accomplish his will or purpose, hence the 
prophet was right when he said, what the 
Lord purposeth shall come to pass. The 
reason why the purpose of God shall come 
to pass is, because the power of God is en, 
gaged to accomplish it; hence the purpose 
or will of God cannot fail until his power 
foils-. So I think, brethren, the purpose of 
God stands sure. 

Then, brethren, I will say to you, let us 
go on, relying on the strength of Israel's 
God; and do all the good we can for or to 
our fellow creatures here, and as little harm 
as we can. For we are wild creatures, 
brethren, while in the flesh, and are very 
tubject to the buffetings of satan. Then 1 

will notice the desire of satan. see Luke, 
22iid eh. 31st verse: And the Lord said, 
"Mmon, Simon, behold satan hath desired 
to have you. Here the Lord Says, the de- 
sire of satan was to have Peter, and 1 be- 
lieve his desire is to have every saint or 
child of God. Then, brethren, if the de- 
siie of satan is to hflve the saints, of such 
men as Peter, I think we ought to be on 
our watch and look out. and see whether 
we are in the faith or not; and whether we 
do what the Lord hath commanded us to' 
do; of whether satah has" not persuaded utf 
it is not worth while to obey God. 

I say, brethren, we should examine our- 
selves and pray for God to give us an un- 
derstanding heart, that we may understand 
our duty towards God,- and our duty in re- 
sisting the devil and his desires. Then t 
believe the desire of satan is, that the 
church members should not come together 
at their church meetings. So he persua- 
ded one, the preacher won't come; and 1 an- 
other, it is too hot to day, of too cold, or I 
am very busy; hence none come, Or but 
very few. Then the desire of satan is car- 
ried out, and he is well pleased. 

Those things ought not to be so, bfefrV- 
ren, but let us recollect that the Corhnland 
is. we should not forget the assembling our- 
selves together. Then let the members 
attend their stated meetings, and 80 disap- 
point satan; but if you only go to fill up 
your seat, and have not the love of God 
and his cause at the heart, 1 don't think- 
you disappoint satan much; as I believe 
the desire of satan is, to have as many car- 
nal men and women as ha can get to go to 
meeting, and talk as much about going to' 
meeting as they can, and talk much about 
love, and tell a heap about eharity, and say 
they love all professors. This is all of the 
devil, for you will find those carnal crea- 
tures at the same time abusing the people 
thai believe in the doctrine of the gospel or 
election, and say it is false. Yet they love 
this false belief, or will commune with 1 
them that believe it, and say it is false. 
This kind of going to meeting or religion^- 



fulfils the desire of satan, and 1 think one 
God-made Christian is more trouble lo sa- 
tan, than a thousand' such religious infidels.; 
and for this cause I think so; the devil i.» 
such a fool he thinks he can seduce the 
Christian to destruction, and so tries his 
plan; and it takes pretty well sometimes, 
like il did with Peter, v\hen he denied the 
Lord. Then the devil thought he had 
him, the poor fool did not know that Christ 
had prayed for him. that his faith should 
not fail. So he gol disappointed, and so 
he will be whenever he undertakes a saint; 
for God is above the devil, and Christ is 
the Christian's life. Then the devil can't 

aside the ordination of God; if so, then' 
hey will walk in good works. 

Now, brethren, 1 wish you all to en- 
courage our paper, as I am not willing for 

1 I 

il to fall through. Nothing more, breth- 
ren, so farewell. R. RORER. 

From the Regular Baptist. 

Cave Spring, Hart Co., Ky. 
Dear Brother Lowe: — I havereceiv^ 
ed two numbers of your paper. I do not 
know through what agency it was sent to 
me, for we are strangers to each other in 
the flesh, though I was glad to receive 

, them, and inclosed you have the money 
get the Chris'ian, without his life; hence V t * i • .l ,i 

B ' tor one year. 1 am taking three others at 

he must get Christ, or not the saint of ,u:o .; m « i „ m „Lj (n i.„ „r _ u «u - 

this time, 1 am glad to hear irom my breth- 


But, brethren, he is such a fool he don't 

ren every where. I live in Kentucky,' 
and I am surrounded on every side by 
know it, or he would not trouble i htm as he Pharisees of a great many names, but I 
does; for' it is all for their good and God's : c ] ass them altogether, as there are but two' 
glory, and the disappointment ol the devil, religions— there is the religion of the flesh^' 
And here I will give you one i.-f my and the religion of God — one is carnal of 
thoughts of the devil 1 think the devil natural, and the other is spiritual — one is 
when he got Peter to deny his Lord, he born of God, the other is of the flesh- — that 
strutted around like a presiding elder that is of God ioves God's word, and what 
when he converts a rich of" great man; and they are in a religious" sense is from princi- 

when he can't get him to join their church. 
he then sinks down and shabs off", and 
says he is not much. And so I think il is 
with the devil, whenever he undertakes a 
saint of God; lor a Christian is God's woi k- 
manship, cieaied in Chii>t Jesus unto 
good works, which God has before ordain 
ed that we should walk in ihem. See 
Ephesians, 2nd ch. ■ Oi h verse I lien we 
will notice that we, or the chinch ol 
Christ, are created in Christ Jesus unto 
good works. Then we did not crrafeour 
selves unto good works, no, but we ^eie 
created by some other power; and iheii he 
goes on and tells us that God hath before" 
ordained that we should walk in tin no. oi 

pie, and the other is from a slavish fear; 
put death and an awful eternity out of the 
way and they would not give a cent for 
God Almighty. All men fear punishment 
and they want to escape the wrath of God, 
just so it was with the Pharisees when Je- 
sus Christ was on the earth. I view the 
Arminian world as descendants from the 
old Pharisees, I do not care what they call 
themselves. There is but one true church; 
there is but one Lord, one faith, and one 
baptism — there may be some of the chil- 
dren of God in some of their ranks for 
what I know. If there is, I would say 
and not partake of her sins — that does not 
pester my mind like the great bickering" 

good works Here God hath before or ! there is among the Regular Baptists about 
dained that we should t*alk In good works; \ wort i s ant i the two seed doctrine. There 
who dare say they will noi walk in good j s not oneamongthe Old School Baptists, 
works now? ! that is really an Old School Baptist, one 

Brethren, I am persuaded that the devil that the Lord has made to understand 
with all his Aimiiuau artillery eah'l put 1 himself, and to know that he is a poor 



helpless sinner, but what believes in sove- 
reign and electing grace, and, really, there 
is no justice in the atonement of Jesus 
Christ without a union of Christ and the 
6hurch, which is his body. The Armi-n- 
ran atonement is an arbitrary thing in the 
Lord to give his only Son when under no 
obligatian to do so, to lay down his life 
for a world of wicked men, when at the 
same time, he knew that they all would 
not be benefiited.-What advantage would 
it be to me for my friend to heir me a 
large estate, when he knew I never would 
get it? would he not be very simple? Paul 
says it is grace for grace, and there was 
grace given us in Christ before the world 
began, and how long 1 can't tell, it was 
given for his bride the church, and the 
church being his body or his fullness — he 
was under all obligation that we can con- 
ceive of, and rn this view of the matter 
the atonement is just, and salvation is sure 
to all the heirs. The heir in scripture is 
called a seed — a seed shall save him, and 
it shall be accounted to him for a genera- 
tion; when thou shall make his soul an of- 
fering for sin, he (Jesus) shall see his seed. 
I am truly hurt in my feelings to see the 
Old Baptists falling out, but brethren, I 
Suppose they are like Gideon's army, too 
rhanjv I must stop. 

I have t e name of being a Baptist, but 
my bro. I am as bad as satan can make me, 
and as good as I can make myself. 


An Acrostic. C. M. 
fi ternal Love, how sweet the theme, 
To rebels in distress; 
It makes the sinner white and clean, 
In Jesus' righteousness. 
© ear Saviour, can thy pafd'ning love, 
Embrace a wretch like me; 
0! look in mercy from above, 
And set the captive free. 
js ercy and justice now can meet, 
And so they can agree, 
In Jesus' righteousness complete, 
To set the sinner free. 
G nchanging love, how sweet the sound, 
Through all the world below; 

And sinners, heirs of glory found, 
This' wondrous love to show. 
21 ot all the gold in Opher's bound, 
Nor jewels charm the sight, 
Compared with love cannot be found,' 
To shine so fair and bright. 
O id not the Lord of glory bleed, 
For sinners such as I? 
Amazing love! love, indeed' 
To suffer, bleed and die. 

q reat spirit of eternal love," 
I own thy sacred sway; 
So Judah's lion guards above, 
And shows the narrow way. 
p-i n all the paths through which we pasf, 
And all my journey through; 
His love will guide me safe at last, 
My journey to pursue. 
tT" 1 et hungry lions lack their prey, 1 
The Lord will still provide; 
And I shall hear and know and see, 
My wants will be supplied. 
W ut while I travel here below, 
I'll sing redeeming love; 
And when to that bright world I go^ 
I'll sing the same above. 
M ternal wisdom drew the plan, 
And love prescribed the way; 
That Christ should die for sinful' man, 
wondrous love, I say. 
pi eligious form is always vain, 
Without the power of love; 
We must be truly born again, 
And that from heaven above. 
H each us, Lord, by grace divine, 
To run the heavenly race; 
That we may then in glory shine;; 
Through free and sovereign grace.' 

Appointments for Elder C. B. Hassell. 
Elder Hassell expects to preach on Mon- 
day the 10th day of May at Picot m. h.; 
on the 11th, at Morattock; 12th, at the 
school house; 13th, at White Chapel; 14th, 
at Concord; 15th, at Angeley's; 16th, at 
Sound Side; 17th, at Bethlehem; 19th, at 
Gum Neck: 21st, at Bethlehem; 22nd, at 
Angeley's; 23rd, at Concord; 25th, at 
Morattock; and 26th, at Picot. 



•Appointments for Elder Stephen I. 
Fall's Tar River Thursday, 27th of 
May; Williams's", 28th; Hardavvay's, 29th; 
Old Towrr Creek, StYnday 30th; Tarbo- 
rough, Sunday night; Conetoe, 31st; Cross 
Roads, 1st of June; Log Chapel, 2nd; 
Lawrence's, 3rd; Sandy GroVe, 5th.; Com. 



North'Carolina. C.B.Hassell, Williamson 
R. M.G.Moore, Germanton. W. w. Mizett, Ply- 
mouth. Ben j t Bynum, Nahunta Depoli H.\ve- 
TH,Averasbor6' '. Burwel'tTemp.le,-fta/e/g:^. Thos. 
Bafrley,$mithjteld. James H. Sas'ser, Wayne.'- 
bora 1 , h. Bpi Bennett, Hea/hville. Cor's Cana- 
day, CraHensvil/e William Welch, AbboWs 
Creek, AVE, Baifts, it. Stanhope. C. T. Saw r 
yer, Pffleffif Point. H . W il kerson, Vftst Point. J. 
Miller,- Milton Park. Isaac Meekinsand Samnel 
Rogers",- Cdlumbia, Wrin M. Rushing, White's 
•Store. Jaities H, Smitti, Wilmington. Jacob Her- 
ring, G'oldsS&ro' , Si Taturri. Elizabeth City. Ad- 
am Hd8ker r , Salem Church, Abner Lamb, Cam- 
den C. H, 

Soufri Carolina. Wm.'S. Shaw, Rock Mills 
W. B : . f Hlar r d,Sr', Aiktn. , M.M'eGTaw, Brown's 
J. LtSi'ritpson, Winnsboro', Ji'Gi Bowers, Whip- 
py StSamp, Wmi Nelson, Camden, G, Mat 
thews",- Germanvilie. J. C. Lucas", Lexington C, H. 
Amos" Hill, Pleasant View. 

Gsohgia. John McKenney, Forsyth. Thomas 
Amis, Lexington. John Mi Field, Macon. John 
W.Turner, Pleasant Hill. Wlliam Trice and 
William D. Taylor", Thomaston. Ezra McCrary, 
Warrenton. Prior Lewis, Thomasville, Pi Las- 
setter, Vernon. Abner Durham; Greenville, GM. 
LeeveS,Millcdgeville. W.J.Parker, Chenuba.i.P. 
Ellis, Pinevilie.f. Haggard .Allien s. A.M. Thomp- 
son, Fort Valley, Daniel 0'Nee\,OliveGrove. John 
Wayne, Cam's. R. S< Hamrick, Carroll/on. D, 
Smith, Cool Spring Moses H. Denman, Marietta 
Jethro Oates, Mulberry Grove. Isham Edwards. 
Marion. J i os«ph Daniel, Fish's. R. L. Hayne, 
Lebanon. T. w. Dearing, Cotton River. E. Davis, 
Gretn Mlh 

AUawam'a. A.KeMoti^elmont. H-Dance arid 
W. Bizzell, Eutaw. E. Bell, Liberty Hill. I. 
G-. Walker, Milton. H.Williams, Hatana, J. 
©attieH Claiborne, E. Daniel, Church Hill, I. 
Carpenter,Sr. Clinton, J. McQueen, Lowndesbow' . 
Wm.Talley, Mount Moriah, B Upchurch, Bene- 
tola. Si Hamrick. Plantersville. James S. Mor- 
gan, Dayton. Rufus Daniel, Jameston, Joel H. 
eHambless", Loweville. F. Pickett, Wjino Gfroue. 
JoHn W. Pellurai, Franklin, John Harrell, Ms, 
oourf. Wm. Thomas, Gainer's Store. E. M^. A- 
mos, Midway Allen Moore, Intercourse, John 
Bryan, ST. Fullersvilk, Benj. Lloyd, Wetumpka 
N. N.BartnOre, M« PiW. A. Hailey, Pintlala. 
Vincent Williams, Mobile. Young Smith, Eufau- 
la. T. J. Foster, flea's Landing. Henry Cason, 
Monticello. Henry Petty, Pt'cfow wile. D. R. 
P King, Pcfoww'lle. John whitehead, Jr. Plea- 
Mint A\mim. M. W. H«lm^ Bridfferille. Elly 

B. Turner, Mbcvilte, Thomas Townsend, Fork, 
land. Robert Grady, Bluff Port. R. R. Thomp, 
sou; Centrevit/e. James F. Watson, Geneva. 

Tennessee Michael Burkhalter, Jasper, Wm. 
Croorri, Jackson. Solcrnoh Ruth, Wesley. Ira E. 
Dotithit, Lynchburg, Geo. Turner, Waverly, 
Henry Randolph. Snodysville, Pleasant A.Witt-" 
Russelville, William McBee, Old Town Creek, 
A. Burroughs, Moore's X Boads. James Sheltbn' 
Portersville. Sharirach Mustain, Lewisburg. Na- 
than S. McDowell, Tazewell,. Henry Turner, Fay, 
ettevllle. Isaac Moore, Ripley, James Sailing, 

Mississippi. William FTuddlestori and Ed-' 
rtiund Beeman, ThomastSn. Simpson Parks and- 
Samuel Cariterberry, Lexington. John S. Daniel". 
Cotton Gin Port Mark Prewett, Merdeeri. 
Wm. Davis, Houstou. C.Nichols, Stump Bridge- 
Wooten Hill, Cooksville> John Davidson, far 
rol/lon. Thomas Mathews, Black Hawk. James 
Lee, Beaiie's Bl t uff, .Tames T, S,. Cpckerham, 
Grub Spring's, James Crawley, Minghoma. Jos'.' 
Edwards, New Albany. Thomas C. Hunt, Mc- 
Lend't. John Halbert, Nashvitle. Wilson Hunt/ 
Stewart's, John. Scallorn., Pleasant 'Mount, John' 
Kinnard, Daley? s >4 Roads. K. B. Stalling*, De- 

Louisiana. Thos Paxton, Greensboro'. lW. 
Peikins and Needham Coward, Big woods. L. 
G> McGanghey, Ballieu's Ferry. Benjamin Gar- 
lington, Negreet. 

Florida. HartwelJ Watkihs, Monticello, Lew-* 
is" Tucker, Campbellton. 

James M. Corder, $2 

Wm. M. Rushing, 2 
Wright W. Buck, 1 
Thomas Davis, 2 

David Smith, 2 

Benj. Briley, Sen'r, 2 
Willie Jones, l'| 

William S. Weaver, 1 
John B. Moses; 1 
L. B. Parker, 1 

Abia Clay, 2 

H. C. Harvey, 1 

Rudolph Rorer, 5 
Abraham Joyner, 1 
Nelson Canterberry,! 

C. B. Hassell,- $6 
George Leev"es, 3 

I Isaac M-eekins, 5 
Jethrd Oates, 2 

| Mrs. Sarah Lane, 2 
David Daniel, 1> 
Jacob V. Little, 1 ! 
Samuel Hunt, 2 
R. W. Crutcher, 9- 
James Murray, 2' 
Wm. Hunt, 1 

J. C. Gillespie, 8 ; 

iTh: Murphy, Jr. 3' 

I G.M.Thompson, 1 ; 


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No. 16. 


rOK THE fRlMl'ilVE BA1"J I.VI . 

A crumb from a child to the little chil- 

Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith 
the Lord. Feed my Iambs, saitli Christ. 
Feed the flock of Christ, saith Paul. 
{continued from lust No.) 

The dog began to growl, howl, and 
bark; and the old sow and all her pigs had 
their bristles raised at the under shepherd. 
At this great noise and bustle, the old lion 
roared in his fiery den, and asked, what 
meaneth all this? His kine informed him, 
that a man had come there called under 
shepherd, who was taking away the sheep. 
Upon this he arose from his fiery slum- 
bers, and made space to the shepherd, 
with his fire brands and pointed darts; 
and swore by all that was diabolical, that 
he would destroy his life. Upon this the 
under shepherd began to stagger a little, 
(now the sheep were herdlsd in dismay, 
and looked with anxiety for the issue of 
this dreadful commotion;) whilst the good 
shepherd appeared rather alarmed, one 
spoke in an audible voice, put ye on the 
whole armor of God. So he obeyed the 
mandate, and began to equip himself, and 
make hfs sling, and gather his pebbles; and 
he scarcely had time to make ready, before 
the blackbanner was>.oisted and the infer- 
nal band, 'with their swords and staves, in ! 
their fine equipage, under command of the j 
dragon, began to approach th« shepherd. 

He appeared rather dismayed, until a small 
still voice whispered and said, one can 
chase a thousand, and two can put ten thou- 
sand to flight; stand still and see the salva- 
tion of God. 

| At this the old sheep and lambs began 
to bleat, and march to the sound of the 
trumpet; (whensoever you hear the sound 
of the trumpet, march ye thither.) 
I Upon this the wolf began to howl to the 
Legislature for help,, for surplus funds; 
and the dog began his begging' mission, 
and the lion began to roar his anathemas; 
the old sow and her pigs begnn to squeal, 
at protracted" meetings, and they soon 
compassed with their sounds and runners 
both sea and land to make proselytes; and 
sometimes they would all shout as with 
the voice of one saying, great is Diana of 
the Ephesisns. Legislature help, Con- 
gress help, lawyers, and doctors, and 
statesmen help; for this our craft of shear- 
ing sheep, and begging wool, and devour- 
ing lambs we, make our living, and this 
our craft is in danger. This pestilent fel- 
low (under shepherd) hns brought in great 
confusion amongst us, we were all in 
peace; until he began to cry out, against 
our government. Yes, says one, he had 
the impudence to say, that our flourishing 
(missionary societies) vines bore poison 

About this time the flock seemed to be 
scattered., being deceived at the number- 
less hosts that had come to the assistance 
of the little sow pig, and their great tal- 
ents, and many facilities in rooting, and 
grunting, and harking, and howling, and 


rrtiMitiVR baptist 

roaring, until under shepherd lifted up hi? 
voice and said, the race is not to the swift, 
nor the battle to the strong; but of my spi- 
rit} saith the Lord. H;ith not God chosen 
the weak, ignorant, and 1 despised things of 
this world to confound the strong, wise 
and great; and the wisdom of this world is 
foolishness to him. Upon this the sheep 
began to bleat and herdle together, for they 
knew the voiee of the shepherd. 

Then said the shepherd, why halt ye 
between two opinion:-? If God be God; 
serve him; but if Baal be God, serve him. 
Turn ve, turn ye, oh, hou^e of lsiael, why 
wifl ve die? Make not the temple of the 
living God a member of a harlot. Upon 
this the old sheep bro't a loud bleat", and 
made for the bars, where there met him a 
host of swine, and several dogs and wolves, 
and essayed f.o hinder him, by barking, 
howling, &c. The old sheep said, me and 
my household are determined to serve 
God; and then he turned him to the Sock 
and: Said, follow me to the sound of the 
trumpet. At which they all herdled 
round him and the under shepherd. 1 hen 
the dogs began to snap and growl again, 
and the wolves began to howl, and the lion 
roared tremendously. At which under 
shepherd fixed him a pebble in a sling, and 
skilfully aimed it at the lion; upon which 
he began to gnash, and foam, and roar, and 
swear by the infernal legion, that he would 
neither eat nor drink until he had killed 

Upon which the ehief shepherd exclaim- 
ed, fear not, little flock; stand firm, con- 
tend for the faith once delivered to the 
saint9. He that loses his life for my name's 
sake and the gospel's, the same shall find 
it. At this the lion began to sheer off and 
say, I know thee whom thou art. At 
which under shepherd peeled hi-m, with 
this pebble, get thee behind, me, satan. 
And so the lion paced off. 

But all this time the dog and wolf stood 
at the bars or gate, between under shepherd 
and the sheep; and the old sheep bleated 
and said, hinder me not. Then they be- 

gan to bark and growl, when the bM sheep.; 
bucked him a pace; at which the dog 
thought he was done; but he brought a 
charge at the dog, and pounced him so se- 
verely, in the head that he lost the use of 
his jaw, and eould neither bs>rk nor bite; 
and so off he paced r with a mournful and 
lamentably whine. '1 he wolf looked fierce 
and resolute, yet now when the old sheep; 
gave the dog such a jolt, the old sheep 
made his elopement through the bars, to' 
where the under shepherd was. 

Then the wolf, and ohJ sow, and her pigs" 
began to court the young sheep and lambs', 
thus: I wot* Id rtot go with these enthusias- 
tical heretics, (hey are a set of antinomi- 
ans, they are a covetons set of ignorant 
mountain cow drivers; come, stay with us; 
we will do so and so. They are a despised 
people afty how, nobody likes them, and 
they are always different from arty body 
else, and I would not follow no such a set. 
Upon this some of the sickly lambs, began? 
to think I had best then stay here. But 
under shepherd interrupted them by say- 
ing, let my people depart. Then the oh! 
sow bristled op again for fight, and the 
wolf rose to his feet and made'at the under 
shepherd; but the under shepherd unshea- 
thed his sword as he c